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Burrow Bay Baldoyle

  • 10-02-2020 1:37pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,481 ✭✭✭


    Interested in this new development coming to the market this summer, I believe there are over 100 properties coming to the market which is good, 3/4 bedroom houses.

    I was wondering if anyone has any info on indications of prices for these? Estate agent not giving anything away at this point but I was hoping someone here might have some inside info, would be greatly appreciated.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 174 ✭✭sparkle109


    Sono wrote: »
    Interested in this new development coming to the market this summer, I believe there are over 100 properties coming to the market which is good, 3/4 bedroom houses.

    I was wondering if anyone has any info on indications of prices for these? Estate agent not giving anything away at this point but I was hoping someone here might have some inside info, would be greatly appreciated.


    Hey, no nothing yet, I also tried the estate agent and couldn’t get any ballpark figures! Hopefully within budget 🀔


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,000 ✭✭✭antimatterx


    Where is this in Baldoyle?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,481 ✭✭✭Sono


    Where is this in Baldoyle?

    Down near The Coast development.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,000 ✭✭✭antimatterx


    Sono wrote: »
    Down near The Coast development.

    Why is it called Burrow Bay then. Such a misleading name? I live in The Coast and I was confused by the name!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,481 ✭✭✭Sono


    Why is it called Burrow Bay then. Such a misleading name? I live in The Coast and I was confused by the name!

    You’ll have to ask the developers.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,000 ✭✭✭antimatterx


    Does anyone have any idea of how much the 1 bedroom apartments will cost? I live with my parents in The Coast, and would be interested in buying here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,481 ✭✭✭Sono


    Does anyone have any idea of how much the 1 bedroom apartments will cost? I live with my parents in The Coast, and would be interested in buying here.

    No one knows any prices.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,587 ✭✭✭baldbear


    Burrow bay sounds posh. There are some amount of properties going in there now.. This must be apart of project shoreline. I think there are going to be 1500 properties total been built around their.

    Full amenities will probably put in place by 2030 known nf this country.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,766 ✭✭✭...Ghost...


    Why is it called Burrow Bay then. Such a misleading name? I live in The Coast and I was confused by the name!

    Burrow beach is not far from it.

    Stay Free



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,000 ✭✭✭antimatterx


    Burrow beach is not far from it.

    It is far from it. The name is misleading


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,642 Mod ✭✭✭✭Graham


    Why is it called Burrow Bay then. Such a misleading name? I live in The Coast and I was confused by the name!

    Is 'The Coast' actually on the coast or also confusing?

    :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,000 ✭✭✭antimatterx


    Graham wrote: »
    Is 'The Coast' actually on the coast or also confusing?

    :pac:

    It actually is on The Coast.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,766 ✭✭✭...Ghost...


    It is far from it. The name is misleading

    The development is just over a kilometre from the burrow beach/bay.
    It actually is on The Coast.

    This is more than a half kilometre from the actual coast. But you say it's "on The Coast".

    What constitutes close, or far to you? I think we have it nailed down to less, or more than 1 kilometre. But less than 1 kilometre is close enough to say there is no distance at all :rolleyes:

    BurrowBay might be a bit misleading, but many developments are named after areas much, much farther away from them. If that is the only problem with the development, then we are all doing well.

    Stay Free



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Why is it called Burrow Bay then. Such a misleading name? I live in The Coast and I was confused by the name!
    The Burrow is the name of the beach in Sutton, so more of that pretending people live in Sutton approach! It would part of the same bay at its very tip!


  • Registered Users Posts: 7 Viviana


    Hi guys,

    Do you know if they are still building them and a which stage they are? Are them apartments or houses? I was trying to find out the approximative price, but the agency doesn't answer to this questions. It would be just to understand the range of these houses, if they are approachable to me.

    Many thanks :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 7 Viviana


    Hi guys,

     Do you know anything about the new apartments in Burrow Bay?
    Are they still under construction and at what stage are them? Do you know if they are apartments or houses? I was trying to find out the approximate price, but the agency doesn't answer these questions. It would only be to understand the range of these houses, if they are accessible to me.

    Many thanks :)
    Viviana


  • Registered Users Posts: 322 ✭✭Dunston


    I don't see any reference to "Burrow Bay" online anymore - I think the new name is now "Bay View". I think it's part of Project Shoreline which will extend all the way from the Coast development up to Moyne Road. Does anyone know what Moyne Park is on Moyne Road? Looks suspicious on Google Maps satellite view


  • Registered Users Posts: 322 ✭✭Dunston


    Just googled it - Moyne Park is a halting site - that should keep prices in check!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,324 ✭✭✭JustAThought


    Dunston wrote: »
    Just googled it - Moyne Park is a halting site - that should keep prices in check!

    Drove down there a while back to see how it all panned out with ‘the Coost’ - massive high density build with no doubt plans to envelope it into a slum of the future. Huge amount of ‘social and affordable’ tiny flats and odd shaped ‘units’ - with miniscule gardens and worrying parking. It backs onto the playing fields across from the Aldi in Baldoyle and is hemmed in by the road that floods and the huge itinerant camp at the corner where starving and mutilated animals are often found ‘discarded’ on the common grounds. A sad end to the once royal racecourse belonging to the Lord of Howth.

    I would be extremely wary of this - particularly given Belmayne/Priory Hall slum areas and the planning permission given aome years back and still active for the massive Mosque and muslim schools complex not too far off once the inevitable happens and the estates are all joined.

    The coost might look compromised, contained, arbitrary and pokey now but wait til the toddlers are tweens or teenagers and discarded onto the narrow streets and compact area to ‘play’ - or are unparented and roaming the streets - with no amenities locally other than a football green and disadvantaged youth centre and no resources l unless yiu want a share in a flowerbed?

    With the mess that is the bus connex proposals and downgrading of trains stopping in Portmarnock , and inaccessibility of the miles away dart due to now massively congested roads and tiny park and ride in Portmarnock it would seem neither a safe bet for commuters nor people wanting to own and park more than the legal 0.8 of a car outside their ‘house’.

    IMO No discount would make this attractive.

    As for the feeder road - locals know has been flooding for 40 + years and is inaccessible during storms and snow events. Snowboots and canoes anyone !?

    Burrow is right - burrow your head under the truth - people are desperate but they would want to be extremely cheap and extremely large to put up with all you may have to contend with. And thats before we start on about two people out working and a new build beside an itinerant camp/refuse slum.


  • Registered Users Posts: 322 ✭✭Dunston


    Fairly damning stuff JustAThought.

    The Coast is certainly an odd looking collection of units. Many of those Celtic Tiger developments were desperate as we know and Belmayne fits into that category also.

    Henry J Lyons are the architects behind this new development who are top level and Richmond Homes seem to have a decent rep also so I would be expecting big improvements in that regard. The estate agent says it'll be bounded by an 80 hectare planned park - 80 hectares is massive -not sure what a planned park refers to though - possibly the marsh lands adjoining the site?

    Not understanding your point on the dart - isn't there a dart station on site in Clongriffin so no more than a few mins walk away.

    Does the coast road flood also or is it just the feeder road of the roundabout which floods?

    No getting away from the halting site adjoining the site though - a quick google shows that there's a list of residents with a string of serious convictions. At a glance - A rapist due for release next year - A taxi driver assaulted and robbed one night by a pack of teenagers waiting for their mate to be dropped off and none of them were apprehended.

    In saying that, there will be a demand for these though. The new houses by the station in Portmarnock are just over 1km up the road and are starting at 540k for 3 beds whereas these will likely be starting in the 300s.

    Would be very interested in hearing everyone's thoughts.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,324 ✭✭✭JustAThought


    If you think Slumgriffin is a few minutes walk away you must be making the journey by helicopter. The same with your optimism about the Dart in Portmarnock being a cherry 1k away - unless of course this development is going to be built IN the halting site- and even then it is at least 3 or 4 km away - and a long trudge for anyone contemplating a walk to the dart - who needa a 40 minute walk in the freezing or dark at the start of each morning. If you have a car for your legal 0.8 of a parking space and if you can negotiate the horror story of new traffic that can rake up
    to 20 minutes to go just the few hundred yards up the road from the portmarnock roundabout once you get to that at rush hour to the dart - due to the horror story of new traffic from all the new appartments and duplexes squeezed in alongside each other beside Portmarnock dart in that narrow country road that will ge a total headmelt - it already is - and thats before the new hiuses and appartments at the dart are even finished and before the new development is even srarted. .

    As for the feeder road that floods, freezes, gets totally snowblocked its entire several km length and is routinely closed off by gaurds in bad weather conditions - yes - this will make commuting or getting in and out of the coost estate and I assume a new one that will have to feed out onto that road a game of russian roulette in the winter. Ifs been happening for 40 years - no reason to expect it will magically improve. No doubt people or companies or charities will buy or buy to let but given the way the overpromised ‘Coost’ was allowed to be created and all the hype and oromises about that, I wouod have significant concerns personally about this new one - and thats before we talk about block buying on behalf of the social welfare, muslim enclaves and a desolate swampland & marsh with reeds growing head high that no person in their right mind would ever walk alone in - ringed by itinerant camps.


    And in fairness I have nothing against the owner of the land or developer - it just sounds from the small bit I know of the area and location like it will be another total headwreck.

    PS Isn’t the pub in Baldoyle ‘village’ locally across from the Church the one that burned down famously despite the firebrigade being there in plenty of time because the water pressure was so bad they couldn’t get enough water pumped to put it out :o


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,642 Mod ✭✭✭✭Graham


    Mod Note

    JustAThought, we do expect a reasonable standard of post here in A & P. Your recent contributions were not it. Please fix that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,000 ✭✭✭antimatterx


    I've been living in the original phase of The Coast in Red Arches Road since 2007 with my parents. The area is fairly good in general, it's very quiet. There isn't a lot to do socially here, but you have Howth and Malahide close by. The transport links are superb, and we have only had one issue with the knackers, and it was a different group to the ones that live close by.

    It's a great little area, but it's getting noticeably busier.


  • Registered Users Posts: 322 ✭✭Dunston


    If you think Slumgriffin is a few minutes walk away you must be making the journey by helicopter. The same with your optimism about the Dart in Portmarnock being a cherry 1k away - unless of course this development is going to be built IN the halting site- and even then it is at least 3 or 4 km away - and a long trudge for anyone contemplating a walk to the dart - who needa a 40 minute walk in the freezing or dark at the start of each morning. If you have a car for your legal 0.8 of a parking space and if you can negotiate the horror story of new traffic that can rake up
    to 20 minutes to go just the few hundred yards up the road from the portmarnock roundabout once you get to that at rush hour to the dart - due to the horror story of new traffic from all the new appartments and duplexes squeezed in alongside each other beside Portmarnock dart in that narrow country road that will ge a total headmelt - it already is - and thats before the new hiuses and appartments at the dart are even finished and before the new development is even srarted. .

    As for the feeder road that floods, freezes, gets totally snowblocked its entire several km length and is routinely closed off by gaurds in bad weather conditions - yes - this will make commuting or getting in and out of the coost estate and I assume a new one that will have to feed out onto that road a game of russian roulette in the winter. Ifs been happening for 40 years - no reason to expect it will magically improve. No doubt people or companies or charities will buy or buy to let but given the way the overpromised ‘Coost’ was allowed to be created and all the hype and oromises about that, I wouod have significant concerns personally about this new one - and thats before we talk about block buying on behalf of the social welfare, muslim enclaves and a desolate swampland & marsh with reeds growing head high that no person in their right mind would ever walk alone in - ringed by itinerant camps.


    And in fairness I have nothing against the owner of the land or developer - it just sounds from the small bit I know of the area and location like it will be another total headwreck.

    PS Isn’t the pub in Baldoyle ‘village’ locally across from the Church the one that burned down famously despite the firebrigade being there in plenty of time because the water pressure was so bad they couldn’t get enough water pumped to put it out :o

    JustAThought -not sure why you are harping on about Portmarnock dart station. Clongriffin Dart is on the site of the new development so ya just a few mins walk away and no need for the helicopter. Phase 1 houses are going to be beside the station.

    The only reason I mentioned Portmarnock was to highlight what the new builds are selling for there, just up the road. And ya Moyne Park is just 2km from Portmarnock Dart Station and about 800m from the new builds as the crow flies, just to let you know as your distances are way off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,000 ✭✭✭antimatterx


    These are starting to take shape.

    I'll see if I can get better photos, but this gives an idea. I hope I can buy one when they are released, although I'm not sure I'll be mortgage ready unfortunately.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 48 anniewilkes


    Burrow seems to be the name of the general area? Recently I've noticed when ordering online (for Portmarnock) Burrow is included in the address. Wasn't like that before...I think?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,000 ✭✭✭antimatterx


    Burrow seems to be the name of the general area? Recently I've noticed when ordering online (for Portmarnock) Burrow is included in the address. Wasn't like that before...I think?

    I've been living in Red Arches for 15 and Baldoyle for 25 years, it has never been called Burrow. Burrow is up in Sutton, this isn't Sutton.

    The name Burrow Bay was ridiculous, and was a markeTing move. The new name Bay View, is much better.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,481 ✭✭✭Sono


    Has anyone heard anything on starting prices for these houses?


  • Registered Users Posts: 82 ✭✭lcarrol3


    Sono wrote: »
    Has anyone heard anything on starting prices for these houses?

    I spoke to an agent who quoted to me three beds are likely to start around 395k.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,000 ✭✭✭antimatterx


    lcarrol3 wrote: »
    I spoke to an agent who quoted to me three beds are likely to start around 395k.

    Any idea on 1/2 bed apartments?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,000 ✭✭✭antimatterx


    These are looking decent now, you can even see the road up to Clongriffin station now.

    I reckon phase 1 will be up for sale before Christmas.


  • Registered Users Posts: 82 ✭✭lcarrol3


    These are looking decent now, you can even see the road up to Clongriffin station now.

    I reckon phase 1 will be up for sale before Christmas.

    I spoke to the agent a few weeks ago and she said they will launch before October with completions before Christmas. :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 21 jalikhata


    Does anyone have any idea when the floor plans and launch will take place? When will be the final release?


  • Registered Users Posts: 723 ✭✭✭Pink11


    jalikhata wrote: »
    Does anyone have any idea when the floor plans and launch will take place? When will be the final release?

    I was told October for plans and showhouse last week. Told to just watch out for an email for the official nod.

    Was anyone able to find out what house types will be on offer? (terrace, semi, deatched) EA gave very little detail to me.


  • Registered Users Posts: 21 jalikhata


    Pink11 wrote: »
    I was told October for plans and showhouse last week. Told to just watch out for an email for the official nod.

    Was anyone able to find out what house types will be on offer? (terrace, semi, deatched) EA gave very little detail to me.

    Same here. I wasn't given much detail as well. Do you know anything about the area?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 8 manjku


    Does anyone have any idea of how much the 1 bedroom apartments will cost? I live with my parents in The Coast, and would be interested in buying here.

    Hi,

    I am highly interested in this upcoming project and have been visiting the coast area/red arches road just to see the environment. I haven't got any negative feedback from the 2-3 families staying in that area. Has anyone yet got any details about the upcoming viewing or showhouse?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,000 ✭✭✭antimatterx


    manjku wrote: »
    Hi,

    I am highly interested in this upcoming project and have been visiting the coast area/red arches road just to see the environment. I haven't got any negative feedback from the 2-3 families staying in that area. Has anyone yet got any details about the upcoming viewing or showhouse?

    No details about the show house, but I live in The Coast and I love it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 21 jalikhata


    Any details anyone about the new development?


  • Registered Users Posts: 46 merikahan


    Does anyone know about "It is bounded by an 80 hectare planned park" 80 hectare park. I was looking at the planning website and couldn't find details.

    I spoke to EA and houses are quite expensive for 112sqm.

    I am wondering if some part of the estate will be sold to so called property funds.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7 taletodream


    Does anyone know the pricing for the 4 beds?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 8 manjku


    Does anyone know the pricing for the 4 beds?

    I had a chat with EA and she told 4 bed starting from 480K. Also 3bed terrace starting from 410k.

    Is 410K overpriced for that area?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,000 ✭✭✭antimatterx


    manjku wrote: »
    I had a chat with EA and she told 4 bed starting from 480K. Also 3bed terrace starting from 410k.

    Is 410K overpriced for that area?

    Nope, houses in the area generally go for around 500K. Town houses/apartments are 200 - 400K.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8 manjku


    Nope, houses in the area generally go for around 500K. Town houses/apartments are 200 - 400K.

    I was going through the price register for the houses in the Coast, Baldoyle and it seems houses were sold off on an average 350K. Not sure if 410-425K for the new builds still worth it?


  • Registered Users Posts: 21 jalikhata


    Yes, generally new builds near train station is quite expensive. I saw many houses even in baldoyle is more than 400k but size wise they are lil bigger but they are old ones.

    Are anyone planning planning to buy in here? I assume they are going to have viewings soon.


  • Registered Users Posts: 21 jalikhata


    merikahan wrote: »
    Does anyone know about "It is bounded by an 80 hectare planned park" 80 hectare park. I was looking at the planning website and couldn't find details.

    I spoke to EA and houses are quite expensive for 112sqm.

    I am wondering if some part of the estate will be sold to so called property funds.

    Yes, their plan is really big, they will be building more houses and apartments in near future.
    I assume houses everywhere in dublin in small and expensive.


  • Registered Users Posts: 46 merikahan


    There is a private Facebook group.

    Search for ‘Bay View Baldoyle residents’.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,000 ✭✭✭antimatterx


    merikahan wrote: »
    There is a private Facebook group.

    Search for ‘Bay View Baldoyle residents’.

    Could you post a link. I can't find it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 16 manofachill


    I've been living in Red Arches for 15 and Baldoyle for 25 years, it has never been called Burrow. Burrow is up in Sutton, this isn't Sutton.

    The name Burrow Bay was ridiculous, and was a markeTing move. The new name Bay View, is much better.

    Burrow is a townland around sutton cross approximately 1.5km away. There is also another townland in Malahide also called Burrow which covers a large part of the bay. You will see it on all land registry maps going back 300 years. Ive occassionally heard Baldoye estuary called burrow bay

    https://www.townlands.ie/dublin/coolock/portmarnock/malahide/burrow-ed-malahide/

    https://www.townlands.ie/dublin/coolock/howth/howth/burrow/

    1,350 units are planned, a mixture of build to sell and built to rent. Both apartments and houses. Units will be available before the end of October for the first of about ten schemes.

    Technically the units will almost entirely be in the townland of Stapolin. The area East of the train tracks where this will be seems to have a slight premium than the units the farther to the west, towards the dual carriage way, belmayne and clare hall etc. That said the Cairn home houses nearby all seem of decent quality for the most part

    The new park is the racecourse park down all the way to the Mayne river to the North and the new cycle and walking track the whole way to Portmarnock, there is still further landscaping, upgrading and maintenance work to do it though and I imagine some of that will come from contributions from various developers


  • Registered Users Posts: 46 merikahan


    Could you post a link. I can't find it.

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/2903988076368922/


    anyone had viewing today?

    the 3 bed The Heron are almost gone with couple of left. The drawing room is quite small it seems. also they have 400 Euros as management fees for 3 bed houses.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8 manjku


    merikahan wrote: »


    anyone had viewing today?

    the 3 bed The Heron are almost gone with couple of left. The drawing room is quite small it seems. also they have 400 Euros as management fees for 3 bed houses.

    Hey, I book 3 bed The Heron today. Did you had viewing/booking today? However I can't comment on the drawing room size as I dont have any previous reference. Which estate's drawing room are you comparing with? Can you put some numbers here if you could that would be helpful to analyze?


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