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Best way to secure Safe to concrete floor

  • 24-03-2020 5:02pm
    #1
    Ocelot88
    Registered Users Posts: 14 ✭


    The safe we purchased came with 100mm masonry screws and some fairly chunky plastic plugs.
    I’m just wondering would it be a better option to use fasteners or anchors? Sorry not sure on the correct name for them.


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  • #2
    listermint
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,106 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Anchor's definitely


  • #3
    the_pen_turner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,524 ✭✭✭the_pen_turner


    definetly a sleeve or shield anchor. or even chemical resin a threaded bar and nuts


  • #4
    5T3PH3N
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 542 ✭✭✭5T3PH3N


    As above, screws and plugs are no good.
    If the safe was supplied with poor quality fixings then the safe itself may be poor quality too, any safe I've fitted has come with good fixings, just keep that in mind.
    Also make sure the concrete is good and there are no pipes or cables where will be drilled.


  • #5
    Ocelot88
    Registered Users Posts: 14 ✭Ocelot88


    listermint wrote: »
    Anchor's definitely

    Is their a brand or type i should be getting. Never even heard of these things up until a few hours ago.
    the_pen_turner wrote: »
    definetly a sleeve or shield anchor. or even chemical resin a threaded bar and nuts

    No idea about using chemical resin but ive got the time to look into it to thanks!


  • #6
    5T3PH3N
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 542 ✭✭✭5T3PH3N


    Ocelot88 wrote: »
    No idea about using chemical resin but ive got the time to look into it to thanks!

    You can get epoxy resin for a standard caulk gun nowadays, they work well. If you go this route then you will need to either blow out the drilled holes or vacuum them as the epoxy can stick to the concrete dust which lines the hole rather than the solid concrete.


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  • #7
    Class MayDresser
    Closed Accounts Posts: 395 ✭✭Class MayDresser


    Don't do what my FIL did and fix the anchors internally. He forgot the password, lost the emergency key and ended up drilling a 4 inch hole through the side of it to retrieve passport. Safe still sits there as useful as an inflatable dartboard.


  • #8
    kirving
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,059 ✭✭✭kirving


    5T3PH3N wrote: »
    You can get epoxy resin for a standard caulk gun nowadays, they work well. If you go this route then you will need to either blow out the drilled holes or vacuum them as the epoxy can stick to the concrete dust which lines the hole rather than the solid concrete.


    It can sometimes be difficult to vacuum the hole out if it's deep. A damp cloth pushed into the hole with a screwdriver works well I've found.

    Anchor bolts should do the job nicely.


  • #9
    Ocelot88
    Registered Users Posts: 14 ✭Ocelot88


    Thats one that came with it, 100mm long, but I wasn’t a big fan. The safe itself has the relevant fire and security certs so I’m not to worried on that front but I had been thinking The screw wasn’t adequate.


  • #10
    listermint
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,106 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Class MayDresser wrote: »
    Don't do what my FIL did and fix the anchors internally. He forgot the password, lost the emergency key and ended up drilling a 4 inch hole through the side of it to retrieve passport. Safe still sits there as useful as an inflatable dartboard.

    Your meant to fix them internally

    Mod Snip


  • #11
    Idbatterim
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,854 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    I find concrete screws great, dont know if they woud be good for this job...


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  • #12
    Class MayDresser
    Closed Accounts Posts: 395 ✭✭Class MayDresser


    Mod edit

    Text removed, off topic

    All please stay on topic


  • #13
    listermint
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,106 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Mod edit

    Text removed off topic

    All please stay on topic


  • #14
    listermint
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,106 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Idbatterim wrote: »
    I find concrete screws great, dont know if they woud be good for this job...

    They're excellent I use them all the time. Can't speak a bad word about them tbh. But anchors would offer better fixing power here.


  • #15
    GreeBo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,253 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    Idbatterim wrote: »
    I find concrete screws great, dont know if they woud be good for this job...

    I use them for fixing postboxes etc to a wall but I dont think I'd trust my prized valuables to them...


    I'd either use resin and bolts, or remove some concrete and sink in some J bolts.

    Anchor bolts would likely be grand too.


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