Micheal O' Leary: What a fu-cking whinge bag.

swimming in a sea · 19-05-2021 9:44am

There is a whole lot of snobbery with Ryanair, i once booked flights to Leeds for the boss and me for a meeting there, the shock on the bosses face when I told him it was Ryanair was amazing. This guy travelled somewhere in Europe at least once a week and he told me it was his first time on a Ryanair flight.

I had to go to another meeting in Manchester, so he was to fly back on his own, I heard from his secretary that he rang her to say the return flight time didn't suit and to get him on the Aer Lingus flight at cost of about €500(on the day price)

ineedeuro · 19-05-2021 10:45am

swimming in a sea wrote: »

There is a whole lot of snobbery with Ryanair, i once booked flights to Leeds for the boss and me for a meeting there, the shock on the bosses face when I told him it was Ryanair was amazing. This guy travelled somewhere in Europe at least once a week and he told me it was his first time on a Ryanair flight.

I had to go to another meeting in Manchester, so he was to fly back on his own, I heard from his secretary that he rang her to say the return flight time didn't suit and to get him on the Aer Lingus flight at cost of about €500(on the day price)

To be honest I fly for work all the time(before covid) and will use other airlines if possible.

When I am paying myself I have no problem using Ryanair.

whisky_galore · 19-05-2021 11:27am

It's fine when you understand and play by their rulebook, it's a fcuking bus with wings, just don't have unrealistic expectations of getting your steamer trunk on board for free and a foot massage from an air hostess.
Put on the headphones and it's a reasonably tolerable experience.

mrh1974 · 19-05-2021 11:37am

Potential-Monke wrote: »

Ryanair Europe’s 7th biggest carbon polluter last year as aviation emissions continued to grow (2019). It's sitting 7th inbetween all the Euro power plants.

www.endcoal.org

"The burning of coal is responsible for 46% of carbon dioxide emissions worldwide and accounts for 72% of total greenhouse gas (GHG) emissions from the electricity sector"

worldwide aviation is I think about 3%.

Mainland China has the greatest number of coal-fired power stations of any nation in the world. As of 2021, there were 1,082 operational coal power plants in the country. This was nearly four times the number of such power stations in India, which ranked second. China accounts for over 50 percent of the total global coal electricity generation.

So I'm going to maintain its nonsense to suggest Mr O'Leary is more responsible than all the coal stations in China.

19-05-2021 11:39am

[Deleted User] wrote: »

For tax reasons you have to be registered somewhere. Bono is mostly here anyway. If he wasn’t here for 183 days he’d still probably be taxed here.

It was never one million anytime.

What's your basis for that statement? You are SUPPOSED to be registered somewhere. How many seaman are paying Irish tax?

Again, that's your opinion. Now its actually worse because Bono can effectively not pay any tax

19-05-2021 11:40am

swimming in a sea wrote: »

There is a whole lot of snobbery with Ryanair, i once booked flights to Leeds for the boss and me for a meeting there, the shock on the bosses face when I told him it was Ryanair was amazing. This guy travelled somewhere in Europe at least once a week and he told me it was his first time on a Ryanair flight.

I had to go to another meeting in Manchester, so he was to fly back on his own, I heard from his secretary that he rang her to say the return flight time didn't suit and to get him on the Aer Lingus flight at cost of about €500(on the day price)

Kinda proves that there a difference in service doesn't it?

swimming in a sea · 19-05-2021 11:41am

ineedeuro wrote: »

To be honest I fly for work all the time(before covid) and will use other airlines if possible.

When I am paying myself I have no problem using Ryanair.

I used to do the same myself as T2 is nicer and i got those Aer lingus points and Lounge. But the flights to Leeds were scare and i think he cost himself a 3-4 hours by waiting to get the Aer lingus flight, but maybe he just wanted to top up his points total.

Tony EH · 19-05-2021 11:52am

O'Leary is an insufferable cunt, for sure, and Ryanair is the last on my list of carriers to go anywhere. But they do have their part to play and their impact on competition is fairly welcome.

However the most astonishing thing to me is, when one considers all of the terrible conditions that the staff of Ryanair have to operate within, that there hasn't been a major crash involving one of their aircraft yet.

19-05-2021 11:56am

[Deleted User] wrote: »

His main place is in Dalkey. France is no kind of tax haven. I think the edge might be resident in New York. Larry Mullen also lives here.

I don’t even like Bono but the nonsense people talk about tax is just beyond belief. He’s apparently living in Holland, France and gets a 1M exemption in Ireland where he doesn’t live at all, despite the house being here.

I have a house in Spain. So what? Bono has multiple properties all over the world so his tax residency is unknown despite your claims.

The artist tax limit was previously unlimited. It was only after being reduced to 250k that Bono and the boys moved to Holland. (https://www.rte.ie/brainstorm/2018/0321/948963-the-trouble-with-bono/). My apologies for the wrong amount. Its now only more than then average income.

Fyi, Bono has apparently not claimed the tax exemption (https://www.revenue.ie/en/corporate/information-about-revenue/statistics/other-datasets/artist-exemption.aspx) between 2017 and 2021. So has he voluntarily paid more tax than he should or that he has not paid tax in Ireland?

19-05-2021 11:57am

Tony EH wrote: »

O'Leary is an insufferable cunt, for sure, and Ryanair is the last on my list of carriers to go anywhere. But they do have their part to play and their impact on competition is fairly welcome.

However the most astonishing thing to me is, when one considers all of the terrible conditions that the staff of Ryanair have to operate within, that there hasn't been a major crash involving one of their aircraft yet.

That's really the maintenance crew which is an external company

Strumms · 19-05-2021 12:35pm

The service part of the industry isn’t regulated.

The maintenance is, they physically cannot get away with taking shortcuts on maintenance because if the Irish Aviation Authority or whatever state regulatory agency at whatever airport, want to jump on board, talk to the pilots, engineers, ask questions, inspect the aircraft, tech log they will, do, and can...if the crew / staff so much as put any roadblocks in their way, flight plan gets cancelled... nobody going anywhere.. more long term companywide consequences too...

The same regulatory bodies turn up at maintenance hangers, doing spot checks, again on paperwork, processes, staff training records..safety etc.. it wouldn’t and couldn’t pay Ryanair to scrimp on safety, because big brother is watching and makes sure they cannot. Plus if that was to get out ‘Ryanair cheap but unsafe’ nobody is flying Ryanair...

Nobody cares if the food is shîte, scratch cards are a rip off or the seats on X airline are more comfy.

branie2 · 19-05-2021 2:52pm

The last time I flew with Ryanair was for a cousin's wedding in Portugal in 2019.

billie1b · 19-05-2021 7:31pm

Niner leprauchan wrote: »

That's really the maintenance crew which is an external company

Em no it's not, all Ryanair bases have Ryanair employed engineering, if an aircraft goes tech out of base they usually fly in engineers on the next available flight and if no flight they go on the Learjet express

ineedeuro · 19-05-2021 8:55pm

Niner leprauchan wrote: »

That's really the maintenance crew which is an external company

No it's not.
https://careers.ryanair.com/engineering/

Potential-Monke · 19-05-2021 10:25pm

mrh1974 wrote: »

www.endcoal.org

"The burning of coal is responsible for 46% of carbon dioxide emissions worldwide and accounts for 72% of total greenhouse gas (GHG) emissions from the electricity sector"

worldwide aviation is I think about 3%.

Mainland China has the greatest number of coal-fired power stations of any nation in the world. As of 2021, there were 1,082 operational coal power plants in the country. This was nearly four times the number of such power stations in India, which ranked second. China accounts for over 50 percent of the total global coal electricity generation.

So I'm going to maintain its nonsense to suggest Mr O'Leary is more responsible than all the coal stations in China.

But he's the 7th biggest polluter in Europe (in 2019). China is... well, China, no controlling them. But the 7th biggest is Europe is a bit worrying in fairness. I agree with your statement against the original posters statement, but they're still one of the biggest out there (in Europe).

I think Ryanair are like fast fashion. It's not necessary, but people flock to it to save a few euro to spend on knock off designer whatever in whichever country they're flying to. Just my 2c.

Beechwoodspark · 19-05-2021 10:28pm

So many people (friends family and acquaintances) have told me they will never fly Ryanair again after their despicable behaviour over the last year.

People are so angry at Ryanair and the likes of that thick o Leary are oblivious to it all

Jizique · 19-05-2021 10:32pm

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

So many people (friends family and acquaintances) have told me they will never fly Ryanair again after their despicable behaviour over the last year.

People are so angry at Ryanair and the likes of that thick o Leary are oblivious to it all

Ryanair didn’t close down all international travel; look at our government instead perhaps

enricoh · 19-05-2021 10:57pm

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

So many people (friends family and acquaintances) have told me they will never fly Ryanair again after their despicable behaviour over the last year.

People are so angry at Ryanair and the likes of that thick o Leary are oblivious to it all

Meh, people were spouting the same about keelings last year after flying their pickers in.
It's just a business fighting it's corner.

Love them or hate them Ireland will suffer a decline in tourists if Ryanair pull flights out of Ireland. I know tourism + hospitality are low paid industries but they keep a lot of people off the dole, especially in areas other jobs are scarce.

If Ryanair is e150 to Malaga and aer lingus is double it most people's ethics go out the window!!

19-05-2021 11:02pm

billie1b wrote: »

Em no it's not, all Ryanair bases have Ryanair employed engineering, if an aircraft goes tech out of base they usually fly in engineers on the next available flight and if no flight they go on the Learjet express

ineedeuro wrote: »

No it's not.
https://careers.ryanair.com/engineering/

Maybe, just maybe you two should read your own links fully in future:

"Each of our third party service providers are now hiring in the following locations:

Ireland – Ryanair
UK – AES
Germany – Ryanair Engineering GMBH
Italy, Greece & Cyprus – South East Aviation Services (SEAS)
Spain, Portugal & Morocco – JC Aircraft Maintenance
Scotland – Prestwick Aircraft Maintenance Ltd (PAMS)
Lithuania – Kaunas Aircraft Maintenance Services (KAMS)
Poland – Wroclaw Aircraft Maintenance Services (WAMS)
Austria/Vienna – Aircraft Maintenance GmbH (DMAM)"

"Maintenance is carried out in four of our bases across Europe:
Prestwick, UK
Kaunas, Lithuania
Wroclaw, Poland
Seville, Spain"

Heavy maintenance is not carried out in Ireland, the only country where they employ their own maintenance crews.

billie1b · 19-05-2021 11:07pm

Niner leprauchan wrote: »

Maybe, just maybe you two should read your own links:

"Each of our third party service providers are now hiring in the following locations"

All run by a Ryanair management team on site and on Ryanair contracts

antix80 · 19-05-2021 11:10pm

Magno_DT wrote: »

I fly Aer Lingus but I believe I can do that only because Ryanair exist and keep Aer Lingus on their toes. God only knows what Aer Lingus would be charging us these days if it weren't for Ryanair's crazy low prices.

I could imagine aer lingus advertising €250 economy to london while convincing us it's competitive relative to international flights between portugal and turkey.

19-05-2021 11:13pm

billie1b wrote: »

All run by a Ryanair management team on site and on Ryanair contracts

That's not what Ryanair say. I can quote it again if you want?

0lddog · 19-05-2021 11:15pm

This thread needs to be renamed.

Something like :

Boardsies, What a fu-cking bunch of whinge bags

( whenever Michael O'Leary is mentioned )

mrh1974 · 20-05-2021 3:26pm

Potential-Monke wrote: »

But he's the 7th biggest polluter in Europe (in 2019). China is... well, China, no controlling them. But the 7th biggest is Europe is a bit worrying in fairness. I agree with your statement against the original posters statement, but they're still one of the biggest out there (in Europe).

I think Ryanair are like fast fashion. It's not necessary, but people flock to it to save a few euro to spend on knock off designer whatever in whichever country they're flying to. Just my 2c.

Theres plenty of hard working people out there who only get to take their children abroad because of these low cost airlines.

If you reduce opportunities for Irish people to travel whilst accepting that China is well...China.....you do realise the whole thing is completely pointless.

Becomes like those hugely obese people that have a family size pizza, fries onion rings and 3 cream cakes and then order a diet coke.

20-05-2021 4:02pm

I have family all over Europe so Ryanair are a godsend

Also cleaner aviation fuel is a thing now so the acid rain crowd can relax.

Cienciano · 20-05-2021 4:03pm

Back in the 90's ryanair started charging £70 to london when air lingus charged £200. And aer lingus, who gave every passenger a meal, reckoned it would never be done cheaper than than £200.
I probably wouldn't like to work for ryanair, but it's a great company imho, I fly with them all the time and never had an issue.

mrh1974 · 20-05-2021 8:34pm

Ive used them plenty of times for golf holidays with my mates and if i'm honest, have had a few issues BUT im not one of those entitled people that expects Champagne when they pay for lemonade.

Samsonsmasher · 21-05-2021 8:51pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Is he not the same as any other being on the planet? I mean if for some bizarre reason the contents of Paul McCartney's bank account was the sort of thing that would keep you awake at night then you have the option to not buy a Beatles album next time you're out shopping. No one gives a flying fukc if you want to hand a thousand euros over to Aer Lingus or Lufthansa next time you need to sit on a plane for an hour, knock yourself out, I'll swallow my pride and pay the tenner to fly with Mick.

The smart traveller books cheap flights and cheap accomodation and spends money on the top 10 attractions listed in the lonely planet guide for their destination then eating and drinking well.

I cannot see the attraction of flying first class on a plane staying at a luxury hotel and not mixing with the so called riff raff.

I love a lively cheerful crowd at the airport on the plane at a hostel and crowds at tourist traps. It's incredible the types of people you meet.

Ryanair makes travelling for me an absolute joy. Throw a some clothes a towel a razor and a guidebook in a bag and away I go. Can't wait for international travel to return this summer!

The snobs who hate Ryanair are the types who think travel should only be for the elite.

ulster · 21-05-2021 9:46pm

I never fly Ryanair - it's like a bus on wings. Way too tacky.

BingCrosbee · 21-05-2021 9:54pm

I have a wonderful man working for me presently and worked for OLeary and said he was the most horrible person he ever met and his wife was ditto. He was pure evil.

Strumms · 21-05-2021 10:00pm

Samsonsmasher wrote: »

The smart traveller books cheap flights and cheap accomodation and spends money on the top 10 attractions listed in the lonely planet guide for their destination then eating and drinking well.

I cannot see the attraction of flying first class on a plane staying at a luxury hotel and not mixing with the so called riff raff.

I love a lively cheerful crowd at the airport on the plane at a hostel and crowds at tourist traps. It's incredible the types of people you meet.

Ryanair makes travelling for me an absolute joy. Throw a some clothes a towel a razor and a guidebook in a bag and away I go. Can't wait for international travel to return this summer!

The snobs who hate Ryanair are the types who think travel should only be for the elite.

Plenty of people who have problems with Ryanair are as a result of first hand bad or indifferent experiences. Ryanair with things going to plan a ok, good experience in the main, problems... hmmm poor in the main.

A lively cheerful crowd ? it’s a mode of transport not a panto you are paying for ? I like an on time, relaxing, peaceful and comfortable trip... to an airport in easy reach of the final destination of my city and hotel.. using an airport(s) in comfortable reach of the city / destination of my choosing and not having a train journey or bus trip in excess of my flight time.

y0ssar1an22 · 21-05-2021 10:07pm

i like michael o'leary. he speaks his mind whether you agree or not; at least you know he is honest.

his philosophy is simple...i'll do it cheaper.

if you dont like it, thats fine. fly with someone else.

i love his forthrightness

ineedeuro · 21-05-2021 10:12pm

BingCrosbee wrote: »

I have a wonderful man working for me presently and worked for OLeary and said he was the most horrible person he ever met and his wife was ditto. He was pure evil.

Yes, pure evil :rolleyes:

He runs an airline. I think I would put people traffickers etc above a guy doing a job. No idea why you felt the need to mention the man's wife. Really need to dive to trying to insult the mans family?

Harry Palmr · 21-05-2021 10:32pm

When I hear Ryanair moaning my heart sings.

BingCrosbee · 21-05-2021 10:33pm

ineedeuro wrote: »

According to your original post you are actually basing your opinion on what someone else has told you?

And that someone is a wonderful hard working man who I have great respect for, now do me a favour and Fcuk off.

Ten of Swords · 21-05-2021 11:47pm

BingCrosbee wrote: »

now do me a favour and Fcuk off.

Don't post in this thread again

Micheal O' Leary: What a fu-cking whinge bag.

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