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  • #1302
    emmalynn19
    Closed Accounts Posts: 81 ✭✭emmalynn19


    L1011 wrote: »
    The perception thing from having a "poured" (dribbled out a plastic tap) "pint" (in a 500ml glass) is very significant to a lot of people though.


    I can see that with a dispenser, having a properly chilled, properly carbonated beer with a proper head poured at home is a nice novelty. How dribbling flat beer out of a plastic tube relates to this is anyones guess.


  • #1303
    L1011
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,542 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    emmalynn19 wrote: »
    I can see that with a dispenser, having a properly chilled, properly carbonated beer with a proper head poured at home is a nice novelty. How dribbling flat beer out of a plastic tube relates to this is anyones guess.

    They're made and sold to be drunk out the tube on the front. Pressure equalisation input on the top - this is the manufacturers docs on them.

    Anyone using them with a pressurised dispenser is going to be in the minority.

    The beer won't be flat if its drunk quickly but the last few glasses worth are a nightmare to get out as you have to tilt the keg or wait many minutes for it to dribble.


  • #1304
    MonkstownHoop
    Registered Users Posts: 3,196 ✭✭✭MonkstownHoop


    ReginaldSmythV wrote: »
    I got a rascals one during the summer and to my shame I drank two cans after it was done.

    I went through one from early afternoon on a nice day during a week off, sure it was the first lockdown, what else was I supposed to do!


  • #1305
    Macy0161
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,484 ✭✭✭Macy0161


    We did the Valentines Beer Box gimmick thing... Rascals Love Box for herself, and I got the Brú box (I'm a sucker for beerstagram friendly glass!). Surprised and impressed that the actual Brú van just delivered it!


  • #1306
    TaurenDruid
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,082 ✭✭✭TaurenDruid


    emmalynn19 wrote: »
    I can see that with a dispenser, having a properly chilled, properly carbonated beer with a proper head poured at home is a nice novelty. How dribbling flat beer out of a plastic tube relates to this is anyones guess.

    The beer isn't flat and doesn't dribble out - it's under (a little) pressure, at least for the first few pints. The last pint may be a different story.


  • #1307
    emmalynn19
    Closed Accounts Posts: 81 ✭✭emmalynn19


    TaurenDruid wrote: »
    The beer isn't flat and doesn't dribble out - it's under (a little) pressure, at least for the first few pints. The last pint may be a different story.


    At least for the first few pints? What use is that?



    I use a minikeg dispenser for homebrew, beer remains under pressure for the whole keg, pour is consistent, beer is chilled, shielded from oxygen and lasts fine for the week or two it might take to get through it.


    Dispensing minikegs via the plastic tube is terrible in comparison. Other than the novelty factor, it makes zero sense to buy these instead of just buying cans of the same beer.


  • #1308
    Macy0161
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,484 ✭✭✭Macy0161


    I've only had one, and carbonation was fine right to the end, between 3 of us. Had to tip to get the very last bit was all. It was good, but I haven't brought another, or a dispenser!


  • #1309
    TaurenDruid
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,082 ✭✭✭TaurenDruid


    emmalynn19 wrote: »
    At least for the first few pints? What use is that?



    I use a minikeg dispenser for homebrew, beer remains under pressure for the whole keg, pour is consistent, beer is chilled, shielded from oxygen and lasts fine for the week or two it might take to get through it.


    Dispensing minikegs via the plastic tube is terrible in comparison. Other than the novelty factor, it makes zero sense to buy these instead of just buying cans of the same beer.

    /shrug You do you. Novelty factor is a thing, which is why I tried two of them. Like I said, I won't be buying one again unless I'm entertaining - in which case, they're grand. I don't see the point in spending twice the value of the mini-keg on a dispensing system I'll rarely use. In the meantime, I've proper 19l Corny kegs for homebrew.


  • #1310
    The Buster
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 218 ✭✭The Buster


    I have had 4 or 5 of the mini kegs from a few different brewery. I have found the pressure to be fine. There is a novelty factor to them and if drinking on own probably not bother with them again as the last pint or two is flat when i go to finish the next evening but if I'm drinking with one or two others I would get one again.


  • #1311
    flended12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 356 ✭✭flended12


    Family booked a week in Louisburgh Mayo in August.

    10mins from Mescan Brewery. I'll be visiting of course.

    2021 just got better.


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  • #1312
    Pen Rua
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,007 ✭✭✭Pen Rua


    L1011 wrote: »
    I don't think licencing fees were really part of the reason for bringing in Rockshore; it was that it was all but inevitable Diageo would lose Budweiser to C&C who were already involved with ABInbev. Which has since happened.

    Back to the Larkins stuff - I wonder which other Irish brewers will start doing multipacks due to the legislation changes? Rye River have done four boxes of the canned non-core range McGargles for a while now - I've never seen said cans sold single.

    Galway Bay Brewery on Instagram are showing 4 packs of Althea (their hazy pale ale) rolling off the packaging line. Caption says Full Sail, Weights & Measures to follow too.


  • #1313
    Macy0161
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,484 ✭✭✭Macy0161


    Pen Rua wrote: »
    Galway Bay Brewery on Instagram are showing 4 packs of Althea (their hazy pale ale) rolling off the packaging line. Caption says Full Sail, Weights & Measures to follow too.
    O'Briens in Bray had a multipack of Galway Bay - I noticed the pack, but didn't notice which beer.

    They had the Revolver 6 pack at €12. As per the other thread, I was impressed at that VFM - but well over stocked for the coming weekend (so just a couple of Kinnegar and a St Mels "My Twist" brought instead from the €3 range!)


  • #1314
    Pen Rua
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,007 ✭✭✭Pen Rua


    For us Whiplash fan boys, another drop on the webshop due today. They're saying 3 new releases this week, but so far only one due on webshop today. Announcing 2 today?

    https://twitter.com/whiplashbeer/status/1359169129857617920


  • #1315
    Zaph
    Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47,336 ✭✭✭✭Zaph


    Well they've certainly announced one more today

    https://twitter.com/whiplashbeer/status/1359483877241282560

    Part 2 of the tweet...
    Fermented on Coconut Puree for a creamy and thick Bounty Bar mouthfeel consistency before a heavy coffee addition of bright single origin Ethiopian coffee from our friends at 3FE and the final addition of roasted hazelnuts to garnish this sauce with more decadence.


  • #1316
    Pen Rua
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,007 ✭✭✭Pen Rua


    Zaph wrote: »
    Well they've certainly announced one more today

    https://twitter.com/whiplashbeer/status/1359483877241282560

    Part 2 of the tweet...

    3rd TBA today, going live on webshop this evening.

    I'm not a fanboy... :pac:


  • #1317
    nestegg
    Registered Users Posts: 20 ✭nestegg


    Spoiler alert.... 3/3 of is a probably the brown ale with maple syrup that is on craft central now.


  • #1318
    Creamy Goodness
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,584 ✭✭✭✭Creamy Goodness


    bounty bar mouthfeel.

    I'd rather not have gritty coconut in my mouthfeels :eek:


  • #1319
    MidlanderMan
    Registered Users Posts: 663 ✭✭✭MidlanderMan


    Zaph wrote: »
    Well they've certainly announced one more today

    https://twitter.com/whiplashbeer/status/1359483877241282560

    Part 2 of the tweet...

    The last time they put hazlenuts in a stout they forgot to roast them and the stout was undrinkable but they managed to save it by lashing a hape of expensive 3FE coffee into it.

    Hopefully they roast these ones.


  • #1320
    Effects
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,760 ✭✭✭Effects


    Which one was that? Not the recent Heart of Chambers?


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  • #1321
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 7,712 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I like a freshen up after Christmas coming into the spring, not more dark gloop.


  • #1322
    Macy0161
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,484 ✭✭✭Macy0161


    Pulled the trigger on the Brown with Craft Central, as I'm a bit imperial'd out at this stage. Went with more Rabbit Hole, the new Kinnegar Saison and the Galway Bay NZ special rather than go with the Whiplash mixtape box of the three new ones.


  • #1323
    MidlanderMan
    Registered Users Posts: 663 ✭✭✭MidlanderMan


    Effects wrote: »
    Which one was that? Not the recent Heart of Chambers?

    No was something that happened pre-whiplash as a collab but has been re-released as a whiplash beer.


  • #1324
    Pen Rua
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,007 ✭✭✭Pen Rua


    Ah, I went for the mixed box of the new releases. They’re out of stock of Body Riddle and Rollover, and I wasn’t fancying the other single cans to bring the order to 6 units.

    I’ve found myself going over the top with IPAs so it’s better for me to have some variety in my beer styles.


  • #1325
    um7y1h83ge06nx
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,029 ✭✭✭um7y1h83ge06nx


    Talking about mini kegs I got 3 short dated kegs of Hope Gentleman Jack IPA for €20 each from O'Brien's.

    Only the wife and I will be drinking them with no dispenser so will probably go through one over Friday and Saturday night.

    Grand price at €20 but the supposedly RRP of €40 is expensive to me.


  • #1326
    Effects
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,760 ✭✭✭Effects


    Fakey Cake Maker was showing as sold out as individual sales, so I went for the dark mixtape.


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  • #1327
    TaurenDruid
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,082 ✭✭✭TaurenDruid


    Brianna Handsome Zit wrote: »
    Talking about mini kegs I got 3 short dated kegs of Hope Gentleman Jack IPA for €20 each from O'Brien's.

    Only the wife and I will be drinking them with no dispenser so will probably go through one over Friday and Saturday night.

    Grand price at €20 but the supposedly RRP of €40 is expensive to me.

    €20 is a great price for 5 litres of a good IPA!


  • #1328
    ThunbergsAreGo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,399 ✭✭✭✭ThunbergsAreGo


    Brianna Handsome Zit wrote: »
    Talking about mini kegs I got 3 short dated kegs of Hope Gentleman Jack IPA for €20 each from O'Brien's.

    Only the wife and I will be drinking them with no dispenser so will probably go through one over Friday and Saturday night.

    Grand price at €20 but the supposedly RRP of €40 is expensive to me.

    Which O'Briens? Or do you have them all gone :D


  • #1329
    stefanovich
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,490 ✭✭✭stefanovich


    Buying bottles from Bru directly is more expensive than the supermarket. Why?


  • #1330
    irish_goat
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 5,805 Mod ✭✭✭✭irish_goat


    stefanovich wrote: »
    Buying bottles from Bru directly is more expensive than the supermarket. Why?

    They're likely charging the same retail price as an independent off licence, so as not to upset them. Supermarkets buy in bulk so can usually offer better prices.

    It's the same for even the likes of BrewDog, you'll get Punk cheaper in Tesco.


  • #1331
    stefanovich
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,490 ✭✭✭stefanovich


    irish_goat wrote: »
    They're likely charging the same retail price as an independent off licence, so as not to upset them. Supermarkets buy in bulk so can usually offer better prices.

    It's the same for even the likes of BrewDog, you'll get Punk cheaper in Tesco.

    I know, but the price per bottle is 2.50 in the supermarket and more expensive per bottle for a slab direct from them...


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  • #1332
    Macy0161
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,484 ✭✭✭Macy0161


    stefanovich wrote: »
    Buying bottles from Bru directly is more expensive than the supermarket. Why?
    Most are the same in my experience. You are giving all the money to the brewery though.


  • #1333
    stefanovich
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,490 ✭✭✭stefanovich


    Macy0161 wrote: »
    Most are the same in my experience. You are giving all the money to the brewery though.

    I do like supporting local business but you'd expect equivalent prices at least when you are buying in bulk.


  • #1334
    Blackjack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,619 ✭✭✭Blackjack


    Brianna Handsome Zit wrote: »
    Talking about mini kegs I got 3 short dated kegs of Hope Gentleman Jack IPA for €20 each from O'Brien's.

    Only the wife and I will be drinking them with no dispenser so will probably go through one over Friday and Saturday night.

    Grand price at €20 but the supposedly RRP of €40 is expensive to me.

    where was this??
    Thats a great deal!.


  • #1335
    Mickiemcfist
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,585 ✭✭✭Mickiemcfist


    stefanovich wrote: »
    I do like supporting local business but you'd expect equivalent prices at least when you are buying in bulk.

    How much bulk do you think the supermarket are buying in?


  • #1336
    um7y1h83ge06nx
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,029 ✭✭✭um7y1h83ge06nx


    ThunbergsAreGo wrote: »
    Which O'Briens? Or do you have them all gone :D

    All gone unfortunately, it was an online offer, found out about it on one of the booze bargain threads. Short-dated but I'm sure they will be fine.

    Maybe the stores might have some as well but that would be hit and miss of course.


  • #1337
    stefanovich
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,490 ✭✭✭stefanovich


    Mickiemcfist wrote: »
    How much bulk do you think the supermarket are buying in?

    So really the only reason to buy direct is to help the business out. That's fine but will put a lot of people off buying direct, you'd expect them to at least match the supermarket prices on bulk orders. They are not selling to the supermarket at a loss.

    Now I have experience of other local non brewery businesses just completely taking the mickey... For instance adding a 100% premium to products. The Bru prices are at least fair enough.


  • #1338
    Mickiemcfist
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,585 ✭✭✭Mickiemcfist


    stefanovich wrote: »
    So really the only reason to buy direct is to help the business out. That's fine but will put a lot of people off buying direct, you'd expect them to at least match the supermarket prices on bulk orders. They are not selling to the supermarket at a loss.

    Now I have experience of other local non brewery businesses just completely taking the mickey... For instance adding a 100% premium to products. The Bru prices are at least fair enough.

    Its not taking the Mickey, in a small operation selling volume is where the profit is. Picking & packing cases for one/two case deliveries take time & they mightnt have the resources for many online orders. So it makes sense to have the price high enough that A: it'll be worth it & B: the prices aren't appealing enough & drive up demand so that they wouldn't be able to manage the supply/logistics.

    Separately, most producers promote a certain RRP & large chains always push to be able to sell below this, they sign on for thousands of cases on the proviso that they'll be able to sell cheaper than everyone else. So the brand has to sell at RRP to be able to stand over the RRP.


  • #1339
    stefanovich
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,490 ✭✭✭stefanovich


    Mickiemcfist wrote: »
    Its not taking the Mickey, in a small operation selling volume is where the profit is. Picking & packing cases for one/two case deliveries take time & they mightnt have the resources for many online orders. So it makes sense to have the price high enough that A: it'll be worth it & B: the prices aren't appealing enough & drive up demand so that they wouldn't be able to manage the supply/logistics.

    Separately, most producers promote a certain RRP & large chains always push to be able to sell below this, they sign on for thousands of cases on the proviso that they'll be able to sell cheaper than everyone else. So the brand has to sell at RRP to be able to stand over the RRP.

    What Bru are doing is fine. Small shop in town was selling a product - that is 150 direct from the producer online - for 300 in their shop. That seems like a massive profit. It wasn't beer though.


  • #1340
    Pen Rua
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,007 ✭✭✭Pen Rua


    Not strictly craft brewers, but The Bierhaus are doing a livestream on Sunday evening with the head brewer from Black's (Kinsale)

    https://www.facebook.com/bierhauscork/posts/5500783959964206

    Don't think it's meant to be in the vein of the Craic Beer Zoom calls, more of shooting the breeze vibe, which will probably include beer talk given the host & guest.


  • #1341
    Basq
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,032 ✭✭✭✭Basq


    The new Sabro SMaSH IPA from White Hag is mighty good!


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  • #1342
    Starlord_01
    Registered Users Posts: 443 ✭✭Starlord_01


    Picked up plenty of beers I haven't tried for the weekend:

    - Rascals - Spacehopper
    - Rascals - The Breakfast Of Champions
    - Rascals - Big Hop Red
    - Larkins - Pale Ale
    - Whiplash - Hot Pursuit
    - Galway Bay - Buried At Sea
    - Dead Centre - Marooned

    Big fans of Rascals stuff lately so expecting good things. Anyone any thoughts?


  • #1343
    Knightofcydonia
    Registered Users Posts: 52 ✭✭Knightofcydonia


    Starlord_01 wrote: »
    Picked up plenty of beers I haven't tried for the weekend:

    - Rascals - Spacehopper
    - Rascals - The Breakfast Of Champions
    - Rascals - Big Hop Red
    - Larkins - Pale Ale
    - Whiplash - Hot Pursuit
    - Galway Bay - Buried At Sea
    - Dead Centre - Marooned

    Big fans of Rascals stuff lately so expecting good things. Anyone any thoughts?

    I'm a fan of the Rascals stuff myself, really enjoyed the new breakfast stout. I only picked up two at the time but I'll be picking up more over the weekend.


  • #1344
    Macy0161
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,484 ✭✭✭Macy0161


    Starlord_01 wrote: »
    Big fans of Rascals stuff lately so expecting good things. Anyone any thoughts?
    You're not going to go wrong with any of them in my opinion. Spacehopper was one of my favourite beers of 2020, and I though Breakfast of Champions was nicer than Whiplash/ 3fe one. Marooned is really good too imo.


  • #1345
    [Deleted User]
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    I need to revisit Big Hop Red again, the last time I tried it last year it had changed and wasn’t nearly as nice.


  • #1346
    Macy0161
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,484 ✭✭✭Macy0161


    ReginaldSmythV wrote: »
    I need to revisit Big Hop Red again, the last time I tried it last year it had changed and wasn’t nearly as nice.
    I've been underwhelmed with lots of reds recently - I'm not really sure is it the beers having changed or my tastes having moved on from when I used to drink a lot of them. My favourite at the moment is Wicklow Wolf Wildfire, which isn't really a traditional red.


  • #1347
    DrZeuss
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 899 ✭✭✭DrZeuss


    Basq wrote: »
    The new Sabro SMaSH IPA from White Hag is mighty good!

    After Salt Sabro and lately an excellent Larkins Sabro, I sure am looking forward to this.


  • #1348
    mfceiling
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,861 ✭✭✭✭mfceiling


    Starlord_01 wrote: »
    Picked up plenty of beers I haven't tried for the weekend:

    - Rascals - Spacehopper
    - Rascals - The Breakfast Of Champions
    - Rascals - Big Hop Red
    - Larkins - Pale Ale
    - Whiplash - Hot Pursuit
    - Galway Bay - Buried At Sea
    - Dead Centre - Marooned

    Big fans of Rascals stuff lately so expecting good things. Anyone any thoughts?

    Have to say Spacehopper is an excellent beer.


  • #1349
    flended12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 356 ✭✭flended12


    Starlord_01 wrote: »
    Anyone any thoughts?

    Yea, wish I bought beer!


  • #1350
    stefanovich
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,490 ✭✭✭stefanovich


    flended12 wrote: »
    Yea, wish I bought beer!

    Picked up a couple of bottles of foxes rock lager but I forgot it always gives me a headache. I wish I hadn’t bought beer :)


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  • #1351
    Black Sheep
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 3,149 Mod ✭✭✭✭Black Sheep


    Picked up the Larkins Sarbo on the strength of a post above. I have kind of lost touch with certain Irish breweries so I bought two Larkins and two Brehon brewhouse. I'm going to try to get around a bit more.

    Last night had a bottle of Duvel. It's been years. I forgot what a great, timeless beer it is.


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