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Living in Dundalk

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  • #52
    sibersha
    Registered Users Posts: 314 ✭✭sibersha


    janedoe007 wrote: »
    https://brggibsondublinauctions.eigonlineauctions.com/lot/details/23275
    this 1 is in good condition if you can get it for the €65000 advertised

    Just an FYI, this property is directly across the road from the original property posted by the OP

    It is used as student accommodation and during the summer it is occupied by fruit pickers from Bulgaria etc


  • #53
    StefanFal
    Registered Users Posts: 72 ✭✭StefanFal


    Why would anyone ever move to Dundalk? The place is an absolute dump. Full of knackers.


  • #54
    brisan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,242 ✭✭✭brisan


    Duvetdays wrote: »
    People are trying to help you by telling you how much it could potentially cost just to make the place liveable and your answer is you don’t care that you’ll be only there 5 years. You might not care but it can’t be rented out with no central heating or dangerous electrics. So after 5 years it’ll go back on the market at a similar price as there’s nothing done to it or you spend a considerable amount of money to bring it up to a legal rentable condition. There’s also tax implications of being a landlord, others will advise of the percentage. So if you rent it out for say €800 a month that 800 doesn’t go into your pocket or pay off your Dublin mortgage it’ll be a lot less then that after the tax man has his cut.

    14 k a year tax free under the rent a room scheme
    Its landlords like the OP that give landlords a bad name


  • #55
    Maewyn Succat
    Registered Users Posts: 506 ✭✭✭Maewyn Succat


    neutral guy wrote: »
    Is that Dublin PAs started worry about ? That people from Dublin will start running to surrounding areas because in Dublin they getting nothing when around they getting something !?Dublin property and rents are so overpriced that people paying same amount of rent as in Dublin starting get houses for free around Dublin !?

    Not good example anyway,to far from Paypal/DKIT.Also this property was on sale for 65K just couple years ago by another PA.This house for sale as far I remeber is about 5 years.They will never get 100K for it same as they did not get 65

    You mised that one ,only 65K

    https://www.daft.ie/louth/houses-for-auction/dundalk/carnroe-rices-bridge-dundalk-louth-2612564/

    I'm not really sure what you are on about but I'm just trying to make the point that without seeing the inside of the house you are thinking of buying you have no idea if it can be fixed up to a liveable standard with cans of paint and laminate flooring as you have suggested.

    Unsafe electrics and plumbing cannot be fixed by painting them.
    Structural defects cannot be fixed by painting them.
    Mould and damp cannot be fixed by painting it.
    Inadequate heating systems cannot be improved by painting it.
    There is a huge list of things that could be wrong with this property that might not be cheap to fix.

    Have you been in touch with the agent to ask for a viewing or pictures of the inside?


  • #56
    Cuddlesworth
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,997 ✭✭✭✭Cuddlesworth


    neutral guy wrote: »
    I getting my 18 chipboard for 2 euros per square mtr .

    I get the impression you are currently not in Ireland and a lot of info is second hand. For example, you might find your material costings are a bit off when you arrive. Or your getting them off the back of a truck. And renters themselves have far more rights then you think. Taxation is a killer too.

    Its rare for anybody to get their money back from a "project" property in Ireland. There are property's around the country that frequently sell for less then the build cost. If the end goal is 5 years, commute to Dublin, rent a room and sell the property, then the ideal property is cheap and needs close to zero work done.

    And as others have said multiple times, no pictures means its probably derelict. The way our weather is, houses unlived in for a few years go downhill fast through damp from condensation cycles.


  • #57
    Eric Cartman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    Cuddlesworth wrote: »
    I get the impression you are currently not in Ireland and a lot of info is second hand. For example, you might find your material costings are a bit off when you arrive. Or your getting them off the back of a truck. And renters themselves have far more rights then you think. Taxation is a killer too.

    Its rare for anybody to get their money back from a "project" property in Ireland. There are property's around the country that frequently sell for less then the build cost. If the end goal is 5 years, commute to Dublin, rent a room and sell the property, then the ideal property is cheap and needs close to zero work done.

    And as others have said multiple times, no pictures means its probably derelict. The way our weather is, houses unlived in for a few years go downhill fast through damp from condensation cycles.

    1+ , a hole in the roof and some rotted wooden joists in the attic and first floor and thats a 100k renovation project right there. Not to mention the need for RECI certified electricians etc.. so the OP couldn't counteract the complete labour cost anyway.


  • #58
    Cuddlesworth
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,997 ✭✭✭✭Cuddlesworth


    Maewyn Succat wrote: »
    I'm not really sure what you are on about but I'm just trying to make the point that without seeing the inside of the house you are thinking of buying you have no idea if it can be fixed up to a liveable standard with cans of paint and laminate flooring as you have suggested.

    Unsafe electrics and plumbing cannot be fixed by painting them.
    Structural defects cannot be fixed by painting them.
    Mould and damp cannot be fixed by painting it.
    Inadequate heating systems cannot be improved by painting it.
    There is a huge list of things that could be wrong with this property that might not be cheap to fix.

    Sad part is you can "can" do up a house and sell it, fixing next to nothing. You need a good rube and bad surveyor at the end of it but its doable.

    A end of Terrance add on house near me(Dublin)that had extreme foundation issues, just redid the render, patched the plaster inside, painted both and then sold it. The pretty extreme cracking is now coming back through the new render as the outside wall continues to split less then a year later.


  • #59
    Markitron
    Registered Users Posts: 3,157 ✭✭✭Markitron


    This is a very strange thread, OP asks for advice and just argues with everyone that provides it.


  • #60
    Maewyn Succat
    Registered Users Posts: 506 ✭✭✭Maewyn Succat


    Cuddlesworth wrote: »
    Sad part is you can "can" do up a house and sell it, fixing next to nothing. You need a good rube and bad surveyor at the end of it but its doable.

    A end of Terrance add on house near me(Dublin)that had extreme foundation issues, just redid the render, patched the plaster inside, painted both and then sold it. The pretty extreme cracking is now coming back through the new render as the outside wall continues to split less then a year later.

    Yes it's possible to do a botch job on it and make it look alright for a while depending on the current condition of the house but the OP wants to live in it for 5 years and then sell it so he needs to do it right or it'll cost him more in the long run.


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  • #61
    Cuddlesworth
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,997 ✭✭✭✭Cuddlesworth


    Markitron wrote: »
    This is a very strange thread, OP asks for advice and just argues with everyone that provides it.

    You can find a load of threads like this, in this forum. They come up with a plan to make money via the property market by buying super cheap, or build a shed in the back of a garden, or a tiny home and so on. When the costs they ignored came up, the laws they ignored, the risks they ignored or just the general ignorance of the situation in Ireland come up, they get annoyed that their world view is challenged and nobody can see how great their plan is.

    In this case, the OP really just wants to operate a slum style operation. I know a few slum landlords, or did, and they made their money through taking on insane levels of debt in the 90's buying properties and have those properties appreciate in value multiples over what they were bought at. Most have sold up, due to actual enforcement of rental standards and institutions like the RTB being brought in. They never made much money from the rental income to begin with, it just kept the whole thing ticking over paying interest. These guys were picking up giant redbrick Georgian houses and renting out 4 beds to a room in a 8-10 room house or converting large rooms into bedsits and building giant illegal extension in the back gardens. I only ever met the successful ones, so I assume anything besides that just failed. That situation will never happen on some 2 bed wreck of a house in Drogehda.


  • #62
    brisan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,242 ✭✭✭brisan


    neutral guy wrote: »
    I was putting floor on attic creating extra storage room in house.20 square mtrs cost me 3 hours work and 40 euros for materials.The most common problem that many people does not know how much jobs cost and agree overpay thousands for couple extra shelves and microwave on it which will cost 100 euros just because does not want get eyes off from chatting on Iphone.

    More likely seller getting ready for recession and try get rid of this house asap.

    Not being smart here but you seem to exist in a parallel universe if you think this is the case
    The house is more than likely a hovel that needs EVERYTHING done to it


  • #63
    Markitron
    Registered Users Posts: 3,157 ✭✭✭Markitron


    Cuddlesworth wrote: »
    You can find a load of threads like this, in this forum. They come up with a plan to make money via the property market by buying super cheap, or build a shed in the back of a garden, or a tiny home and so on. When the costs they ignored came up, the laws they ignored, the risks they ignored or just the general ignorance of the situation in Ireland come up, they get annoyed that their world view is challenged and nobody can see how great their plan is.

    In this case, the OP really just wants to operate a slum style operation. I know a few slum landlords, or did, and they made their money through taking on insane levels of debt in the 90's buying properties and have those properties appreciate in value multiples over what they were bought at. Most have sold up, due to actual enforcement of rental standards and institutions like the RTB being brought in. They never made much money from the rental income to begin with, it just kept the whole thing ticking over paying interest. These guys were picking up giant redbrick Georgian houses and renting out 4 beds to a room in a 8-10 room house or converting large rooms into bedsits and building giant illegal extension in the back gardens. I only ever met the successful ones, so I assume anything besides that just failed. That situation will never happen on some 2 bed wreck of a house in Drogehda.

    Lol, guess it is more common than I thought. And yea, taking on a load of debt to become a career landlord seems a bit mad to me.


  • #64
    brisan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,242 ✭✭✭brisan


    neutral guy wrote: »
    The crack on corner on last link looks worse,I would not recommend this house to anybody same as all old houses newly plastered/painted.Dampnes on internal wall are also not great.
    And you expect the inside of the one you are interested in to be better :):):):):)


  • #65
    neutral guy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 402 ✭✭neutral guy


    Cuddlesworth wrote: »
    I get the impression you are currently not in Ireland and a lot of info is second hand. For example, you might find your material costings are a bit off when you arrive. Or your getting them off the back of a truck. And renters themselves have far more rights then you think.

    No problem at all

    https://www.adverts.ie/other-building-materials/chipboard-mdf-panels-sheets-120-x-80cm/17465826

    Slightly above 2 euros per square mtr,if you you want you sometimes can get for free.
    Got laminat flooring from B&Q while ago,5 euros per square mtr

    Chipboard plus laminat floor just around 8 euros including underlay what is less than plain OSB board at 10 per square mtr

    Simple calculations and well spent time.


  • #66
    awec
    Administrators Posts: 54,091 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    You think you're going to renovate that place to a habitable standard with some random off cuts of varying types of timber?

    Wasting your money buying that house. You may as well sleep outside. If cost if your big motivator, it'd be a lot more cost effective and value for money to buy a tent.


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  • #67
    Maewyn Succat
    Registered Users Posts: 506 ✭✭✭Maewyn Succat


    awec wrote: »
    You think you're going to renovate that place to a habitable standard with some random off cuts of varying types of timber?

    Wasting your money buying that house. You may as well sleep outside. If cost if your big motivator, it'd be a lot more cost effective and value for money to buy a tent.

    Don't forget he's going to paint it too...


  • #68
    The_Conductor
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 32,285 Mod ✭✭✭✭The_Conductor


    neutral guy wrote: »
    No problem at all

    https://www.adverts.ie/other-building-materials/chipboard-mdf-panels-sheets-120-x-80cm/17465826

    Slightly above 2 euros per square mtr,if you you want you sometimes can get for free.
    Got laminat flooring from B&Q while ago,5 euros per square mtr

    Chipboard plus laminat floor just around 8 euros including underlay what is less than plain OSB board at 10 per square mtr

    Simple calculations and well spent time.

    I bought MDF recently- and the price being quoted in your advertisement is a fraction of the normal cost of MDF (even allowing for the fact that they are small pieces of off-cuts).

    Here is the trade price: http://www.woodworkers.ie/prices/p_sheet_mdf.shtml


  • #69
    neutral guy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 402 ✭✭neutral guy


    awec wrote: »
    You think you're going to renovate that place to a habitable standard with some random off cuts of varying types of timber?

    Wasting your money buying that house. You may as well sleep outside. If cost if your big motivator, it'd be a lot more cost effective and value for money to buy a tent.
    I am professional carpenter with 30 years of experience in standard/timber frame building and cabinet making.I know prices very well same as how build/renovate houses.I have no problem insulate/renovate this house for pennies making it dream house inside.I getting various timber for free,same as off cuts,also I know were get materials from left over for pennies or for free.When I do new floors in some houses I could remove old one which is on click one and put it in my house for free.

    Perfect experience in painting too.I could paint MDF by hand brush making it looks like solid wood.Sadly I cant upload photos from my PC.

    Lucky uploaded one.Made by me from MDF.Bend bar panel routered by hands.


  • #70
    Maewyn Succat
    Registered Users Posts: 506 ✭✭✭Maewyn Succat


    neutral guy wrote: »
    I am professional carpenter with 30 years of experience in standard/timber frame building and cabinet making.I know prices very well same as how build/renovate houses.I have no problem insulate/renovate this house for pennies making it dream house inside.I getting various timber for free,same as off cuts,also I know were get materials from left over for pennies or for free.When I do new floors in some houses I could remove old one which is on click one and put it in my house for free.

    Perfect experience in painting too.I could paint MDF by hand brush making it looks like solid wood.Sadly I cant upload photos from my PC.

    Have you been in touch with the agent for a viewing or to get pictures of the inside to see if these skills and materials will be sufficient to renovate the house?


  • #71
    neutral guy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 402 ✭✭neutral guy


    Maewyn Succat wrote: »
    Have you been in touch with the agent for a viewing or to get pictures of the inside to see if these skills and materials will be sufficient to renovate the house?
    I know how this houses built and I brought many of them to life already.No,I was not in touch with agent,I waiting for more realistic prices and looking around.


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  • #72
    brisan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,242 ✭✭✭brisan


    neutral guy wrote: »
    I am professional carpenter with 30 years of experience in standard/timber frame building and cabinet making.I know prices very well same as how build/renovate houses.I have no problem insulate/renovate this house for pennies making it dream house inside.I getting various timber for free,same as off cuts,also I know were get materials from left over for pennies or for free.When I do new floors in some houses I could remove old one which is on click one and put it in my house for free.

    Perfect experience in painting too.I could paint MDF by hand brush making it looks like solid wood.Sadly I cant upload photos from my PC.

    Lucky uploaded one.Made by me from MDF.Bend bar panel routered by hands.

    i assume you are also a qualified and registered electrician
    I assume you are also a qualfied plumber who is a RGI
    I assume you are a qualified roofer
    Because you will need to be to get that property up to standard
    Either that or you are a qualified troll


  • #73
    JimmyVik
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,367 ✭✭✭JimmyVik


    neutral guy wrote: »
    I know how this houses built and I brought many of them to life already.No,I was not in touch with agent,I waiting for more realistic prices and looking around.


    Id love to see some pictures when you get inside. Post them here


  • #74
    brisan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,242 ✭✭✭brisan


    JimmyVik wrote: »
    Id love to see some pictures when you get inside. Post them here

    He cant
    he has an old Nokia phone
    Saving his money for a house


  • #75
    Ush1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,476 ✭✭✭✭Ush1


    neutral guy wrote: »
    I am professional carpenter with 30 years of experience in standard/timber frame building and cabinet making.I know prices very well same as how build/renovate houses.I have no problem insulate/renovate this house for pennies making it dream house inside.I getting various timber for free,same as off cuts,also I know were get materials from left over for pennies or for free.When I do new floors in some houses I could remove old one which is on click one and put it in my house for free.

    Perfect experience in painting too.I could paint MDF by hand brush making it looks like solid wood.Sadly I cant upload photos from my PC.

    Lucky uploaded one.Made by me from MDF.Bend bar panel routered by hands.

    What price do you put on your time? How much time is this all going to take?


  • #76
    Cuddlesworth
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,997 ✭✭✭✭Cuddlesworth


    neutral guy wrote: »
    I am professional carpenter with 30 years of experience in standard/timber frame building and cabinet making.I know prices very well same as how build/renovate houses.I have no problem insulate/renovate this house for pennies making it dream house inside.I getting various timber for free,same as off cuts,also I know were get materials from left over for pennies or for free.When I do new floors in some houses I could remove old one which is on click one and put it in my house for free.

    If you want to invest your time into it and buy second hand fair enough, but I stand by what I said before. If the estate agent isn't bothered taking any inside pictures, assume its a complete gut job and the utilities are disconnected. That means a complete rewire with Electrician sign off, plumbing etc. And probably most of the internal wood is gone or going due to damp and rot. It's not livable in to begin with, its attached to another dwelling so the noise you can make is limited in your free time and overall, it would be worth investing the money into something else. Or having looked at the market it the area, drop another 30-40k off the price.


  • #77
    redarmyblues
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 974 ✭✭✭redarmyblues


    OP, if you are buying a terraced house with a bad BER always buy mid terrace. You can thermoboard and skim the external walls of the bedrooms and the living room, Materials will cost about 250-300 for normal 2 bed. End of terrace normally has to be wrapped and is much, much more expensive. The last one I did insulation as above, new concrete floor in living room, plaster ceilings, gas central heating, kitchen units, decorate throughout inside and out, furniture, rewiring and electrical cert, white goods, patio area at back and remove brambles bushes etc from garden and plant lawn cost after grants 15K. The bathroom was brand new when I bought.

    I recommend looking for a mass concrete council house from the 30s-50s they are a known standard.Those street front terraces are often built of limestone which can be a devil for damp, harder to get the house warm and nightmare to core etc.


  • #78
    brisan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,242 ✭✭✭brisan


    redarmyblues wrote: »
    OP, if you are buying a terraced house with a bad BER always buy mid terrace. You can thermoboard and skim the external walls of the bedrooms and the living room, Materials will cost about 250-300 for normal 2 bed. End of terrace normally has to be wrapped and is much, much more expensive. The last one I did insulation as above, new concrete floor in living room, plaster ceilings, gas central heating, kitchen units, decorate throughout inside and out, furniture, rewiring and electrical cert, white goods, patio area at back and remove brambles bushes etc from garden and plant lawn cost after grants 15K. The bathroom was brand new when I bought.

    I recommend looking for a mass concrete council house from the 30s-50s they are a known standard.Those street front terraces are often built of limestone which can be a devil for damp, harder to get the house warm and nightmare to core etc.
    Thats an exceptionally low cost unless you were able to do all the work yourself and certify at least one of the electrics /plumbing


  • #79
    redarmyblues
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 974 ✭✭✭redarmyblues


    brisan wrote: »
    Thats an exceptionally low cost unless you were able to do all the work yourself and certify at least one of the electrics /plumbing

    The electrics were mostly OK, I got a snagging list from my RECI spark and had a friend of mine do the work, earthing the gas boiler and was the biggest part of it, then the RECI guy came around done an inspection and signed off on the cert. I had my plumber swing the rads and run the piping back to where the boiler was going and the RGI fitted it an a couple of hours. That was the most expensive thing to do and I got €800 back I think from the SEAI. I got lucky on a couple of things, I went to buy a cooker hood and my card wouldn't work, called to a friend on the way home he was clearing out a shed and he said you don't know anybody that needs a cooker hood. The Council were clearing out the garden next door and I gave the digger driver a drink to do mine as well. I had a carpenter and a plasterer on an hourly rate cash in hand and they had the insulation done in a day and a half. Everybody who worked on the job were friends going back decades except for the RGI.


  • #80
    brisan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,242 ✭✭✭brisan


    redarmyblues wrote: »
    The electrics were mostly OK, I got a snagging list from my RECI spark and had a friend of mine do the work, earthing the gas boiler and was the biggest part of it, then the RECI guy came around done an inspection and signed off on the cert. I had my plumber swing the rads and run the piping back to where the boiler was going and the RGI fitted it an a couple of hours. That was the most expensive thing to do and I got €800 back I think from the SEAI. I got lucky on a couple of things, I went to buy a cooker hood and my card wouldn't work, called to a friend on the way home he was clearing out a shed and he said you don't know anybody that needs a cooker hood. The Council were clearing out the garden next door and I gave the digger driver a drink to do mine as well. I had a carpenter and a plasterer on an hourly rate cash in hand and they had the insulation done in a day and a half. Everybody who worked on the job were friends going back decades except for the RGI.
    Thats the way we ( my brothers and I) worked when flipping properties
    I am a spark ,brothers are carpenter and plumber
    Most of my long term mates are tradesmen and mates rates for cash in hand.
    Most are cash rich in their jobs and will gladly give receipts


  • #81
    andekwarhola
    Registered Users Posts: 4,639 ✭✭✭andekwarhola


    OP, the asking price is essentially for the site by the looks of it.


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  • #82
    Naos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,738 ✭✭✭Naos


    neutral guy wrote: »
    The BER is not a problem on North,the oil prices on boarder is 35 cents per ltr when in Dublin is 70.

    The oil could be free, it's still going to be difficult to retain heat.

    I moved into an E2 at the start of this year and during Feb/Mar etc I had the heating on all day, didn't make much of a difference to be honest.
    Imagine sitting in your back garden with a tall patio heater. It's fine when you're under the heater but the moment you move one or two meters away, it's going to be cold.

    Same with that level of BER. You're okay beside a radiator, move away and all the heat is no where to be found.


  • #83
    Maewyn Succat
    Registered Users Posts: 506 ✭✭✭Maewyn Succat


    neutral guy wrote: »
    I know how this houses built and I brought many of them to life already.No,I was not in touch with agent,I waiting for more realistic prices and looking around.

    You have no idea what condition the inside of this house is in so you can't say that you have bought many of them.

    What sort of realistic prices are you waiting for?


  • #84
    awec
    Administrators Posts: 54,091 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    I think the OP is picturing the inside of this house as looking a bit dated, maybe some naff wallpaper, mouldy carpets and a kitchen from the 60s.


  • #85
    Maewyn Succat
    Registered Users Posts: 506 ✭✭✭Maewyn Succat


    Next door seems to be in good condition if it's anything to go by:

    https://www.blueskyproperty.ie/for-sale/35-ladywell-terrace-dundalk-co-louth

    But at 53 square meters in overall floor space it is absolutely tiny for a 2 bedroom house. It definitely wouldn't be somewhere I'd want to live with kids or lodgers.


  • #86
    JimmyVik
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,367 ✭✭✭JimmyVik


    Naos wrote: »
    The oil could be free, it's still going to be difficult to retain heat.

    I moved into an E2 at the start of this year and during Feb/Mar etc I had the heating on all day, didn't make much of a difference to be honest.
    Imagine sitting in your back garden with a tall patio heater. It's fine when you're under the heater but the moment you move one or two meters away, it's going to be cold.

    Same with that level of BER. You're okay beside a radiator, move away and all the heat is no where to be found.

    My parents is an E2 house. 3 bed detached with granny flat. 1000 liters of oil is more than enough to keep it toasty all year, and they like the house warm. Warmer than I can handle actually.

    We probably buy them 1000 liters every 13-14 months on average.

    They had got the BER and had applied for the grant to upgrade the insulation etc to increase the BER several years ago but decided not to go ahead with it. Partly because we were buying the oil :) and partly because the amount of money they would have to spend (even with the grant) was frightening, to save a couple of hundred per year.


  • #87
    neutral guy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 402 ✭✭neutral guy


    JimmyVik wrote: »
    Id love to see some pictures when you get inside. Post them here
    The one I got in,there was no even old carpet or stairs.I left some behind,.I think it cost me about 350 for materials,I forgot final price.


  • #88
    neutral guy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 402 ✭✭neutral guy


    Ush1 wrote: »
    What price do you put on your time? How much time is this all going to take?
    I could make kitchen for 5K for wich you will buy for 20K taking loan which you will pay about 5 years.The advantage to be a carpenter is pay less for things which you will buy taking loans.When you will start pay loan I will relax on beach in Spain for your 20K.Yes,you earn more but you have spend more when I earn less and spend nothing.I was working with great guy who is economist by education,5 years in high school and 2 years as bank clerk selling mortgages.He is plasterer now and has a lot more than his collegues.Actually he calculated this idea buy house .


  • #89
    Ush1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,476 ✭✭✭✭Ush1


    I love this thread.


  • #90
    JimmyVik
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,367 ✭✭✭JimmyVik


    neutral guy wrote: »
    The one I got in,there was no even old carpet or stairs.I left some behind,.I think it cost me about 350 for materials,I forgot final price.


    I mean the house in the OP.
    Any pics of the inside?
    Have you bought and renovated many houses yourself before?


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  • #91
    redarmyblues
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 974 ✭✭✭redarmyblues


    I wouldn't be bothered to much by there being no pics of the interior old fashioned decor etc can reduce the number of viewings and the possibilities of refurbish meant are best seen on a viewing. There are a number of similar properties on Daft in Dundalk ATM with interior shots that show OK to good conditions with one looking ready to move into. Speculating about the interior is pointless you just have to go and look.

    OP there is one flaw in your plans, the last part where you rent it at the end. Landlording has become a mugs game and it's looking to become a lot muggier. You only keep 25% of the rent after tax, USC, letting costs and repairs and maintenance. That said 5 years will tell a lot. The proposed Right to Housing Referendum could end up nationalising the entire national rental housing stock at a stroke.

    Since you are in the game and get mates rates, I advise you buy again after 5 years and unload the first one. Anybody getting into but to let now wants their head examined.


  • #92
    brisan
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    Ush1 wrote: »
    I love this thread.

    Comedy gold


  • #93
    Peter File
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    It looks like there is a cycle lane outside the house so parking may be an issue.
    Commuting to Dublin wont be cheap and will add hours onto your day.


  • #94
    CBear1993
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    neutral guy wrote: »
    I could make kitchen for 5K for wich you will buy for 20K taking loan which you will pay about 5 years.The advantage to be a carpenter is pay less for things which you will buy taking loans.When you will start pay loan I will relax on beach in Spain for your 20K.Yes,you earn more but you have spend more when I earn less and spend nothing.I was working with great guy who is economist by education,5 years in high school and 2 years as bank clerk selling mortgages.He is plasterer now and has a lot more than his collegues.Actually he calculated this idea buy house .

    Is this definitely not Sacha baron cohen in disguise? I’m reading this in an old Soviet voice


  • #95
    [Deleted User]
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    Hubertj wrote: »
    You couldn’t pay me enough to live in Dundalk. In my opinion, it is a kip. And yes I am making a sweeping generalisation!

    I moved to Dundalk at the beginning of the lockdown, I'm staying in Ravensdale. It's a mate's holiday home, I'm actually thinking of moving out of Dublin and living here permanently. The rent from my house would easily cover a mortgage on a decent family home out here.

    Dundalk itself is ok, neither a kip nor particularly beautiful. But the people are friendly, and the countryside is on a par with parts of West Kerry, minus the tourist coaches.

    Have you visited the Cooley Peninsula? This place would probably be a surprise to most first-time visitors. I always thought Louth was flat, but how I'm living on a hill at the edge of the forest, with a view of the sea. North Louth is beautiful, and extremely cheap.


  • #96
    neutral guy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 402 ✭✭neutral guy


    CBear1993 wrote: »
    Is this definitely not Sacha baron cohen in disguise? I’m reading this in an old Soviet voice
    People in Soviet Union had a lot better life then irish people in Ireland ! I am very thank full to God ,My Dad and Mum because I was made in USSR and can see the difference between real life in USSR yesterday and lie about life in USSR today ! We had Wonderful life in USSR ! No matter what USA propaganda telling about it today ! I would like back to USSR and get top level free health care with top level free education ! Be employed and get apartments for free from government ! Go to pension at 55 and spent time on greatest USSR resorts for free ! Same as you cant understand how people in USSR does not drink tea without milk same you cant understand how great life we had in USSR ! You could only dream about level of healthcare we had in USSR for FREE ! Comparing healthcare in Ireland today and healthcare in USSR Ireland does not have healthcare at all !


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  • #97
    Eric Cartman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    neutral guy wrote: »
    People in Soviet Union had a lot better life then irish people in Ireland ! I am very thank full to God ,My Dad and Mum because I was made in USSR and can see the difference between real life in USSR yesterday and lie about life in USSR today ! We had Wonderful life in USSR ! No matter what USA propaganda telling about it today ! I would like back to USSR and get top level free health care with top level free education ! Be employed and get apartments for free from government ! Go to pension at 55 and spent time on greatest USSR resorts for free ! Same as you cant understand how people in USSR does not drink tea without milk same you cant understand how great life we had in USSR !

    Ok.. now I don't even believe you have a job or the money to finance any of this, we've been led up the garden path people.


  • #98
    neutral guy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 402 ✭✭neutral guy


    Eric Cartman wrote: »
    Ok.. now I don't even believe you have a job or the money to finance any of this, we've been led up the garden path people.
    Same as you cant believe people could drink tea without milk.


  • #99
    CBear1993
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,397 ✭✭✭CBear1993


    neutral guy wrote: »
    People in Soviet Union had a lot better life then irish people in Ireland ! I am very thank full to God ,My Dad and Mum because I was made in USSR and can see the difference between real life in USSR yesterday and lie about life in USSR today ! We had Wonderful life in USSR ! No matter what USA propaganda telling about it today ! I would like back to USSR and get top level free health care with top level free education ! Be employed and get apartments for free from government ! Go to pension at 55 and spent time on greatest USSR resorts for free ! Same as you cant understand how people in USSR does not drink tea without milk same you cant understand how great life we had in USSR ! You could only dream about level of healthcare we had in USSR for FREE ! Comparing healthcare in Ireland today and healthcare in USSR Ireland does not have healthcare at all !

    Lol have a good Sunday night rip bud. This has been a great parody thread. Fair play.


  • #100
    neutral guy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 402 ✭✭neutral guy


    CBear1993 wrote: »
    Lol have a good Sunday night rip bud. This has been a great parody thread. Fair play.
    I more love that one The dogs bark, but the caravan goes on.


  • #101
    CBear1993
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,397 ✭✭✭CBear1993


    neutral guy wrote: »
    I more love that one The dogs bark, but the caravan goes on.

    Catch yourself on Borat and delete your account you fool. Nobody gives a hoot about your sh*thole in Dundalk. Take a day off


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