Kerry GAA discussion thread #2

An Ciarraioch · 29-06-2020 7:34pm

First round of County Championship (straight knockout):

St Kieran's vs South Kerry
Dr Crokes vs Austin Stacks
St Brendan's vs West Kerry
Dingle vs Templenoe
Kenmare vs Shannon Rangers
Feale Rangers vs East Kerry
Mid Kerry v Kilcummin
Legion vs Kerins O'Rahillys

An Ciarraioch · 29-06-2020 7:39pm

Hurling Championship:

Lixnaw v Abbeydorney
Ballyheigue v Ballyduff
St Brendans v Kilmoyley
Causeway v Crotta

Poor_old_gill · 03-07-2020 7:23pm

An Ciarraioch wrote: »

First round of County Championship (straight knockout):

St Kieran's vs South Kerry
Dr Crokes vs Austin Stacks
St Brendan's vs West Kerry
Dingle vs Templenoe
Kenmare vs Shannon Rangers
Feale Rangers vs East Kerry
Mid Kerry v Kilcummin
Legion vs Kerins O'Rahillys

SK
Crokes
WK
Dingle
Kenmare
EK
MK
Very hard to call but I'm going to go with Legion

dobman88 · 03-07-2020 7:48pm

East Kerry should really be winning again with last year's experience under their belts and the addition of Rathmore to their ranks.

Will Rathmore be good enough to bounce straight back up to senior also?

Boom__Boom · 03-07-2020 10:38pm

dobman88 wrote: »

East Kerry should really be winning again with last year's experience under their belts and the addition of Rathmore to their ranks.

Will Rathmore be good enough to bounce straight back up to senior also?

If East Kerry don't win it with the addition of Rathmore it will be a serious failure.

East Kerry will have 6 county men (one in every line)

Shane Ryan
Paul Murphy
Jack Sherwood
Liam Kearney
Dara Moynihan
David Clifford

What will be the real killer is the strength of quality they have after that - they have a wealth of quality in terms of non-county players.

Selectors will have some craic putting together a starting 15.

Rathmore are definitely good enough to bounce back up but it's by no means certain they will. Intermediate is a minefield. If Rathmore don't go back up senior and East Kerry do win the county championship, I can see there being serious calls to split East Kerry in two.

Kerrydude1981 · 15-07-2020 9:41am

Forge83 · 06-08-2020 10:47pm

Jeez guys, where’s everybody gone?

Club scene. Anyone to beat Crokes?
What has happened to Rathmore at Intermediate?
Any county guys out with injury?
Anyone new putting their hand up?

keane2097 · 06-08-2020 11:29pm

Crokes are gone way back I think

thesultan · 07-08-2020 9:14am

Did the intercounty u20 finish this year?

Forge83 · 07-08-2020 9:47am

keane2097 wrote: »

Crokes are gone way back I think

How so? They have already beaten Rahillys and Templenoe. Kenmare will be a big test for them.

Shane Ryan is a massive loss to Rathmore outfield by the looks of things. I’m assuming he is making the sacrifice to help improve his goal keeping skills for inter county level so that has to be applauded.

In saying that, the likelihood of there being an inter county competition this year looks like a non runner.

keane2097 · 07-08-2020 12:10pm

Forge83 wrote: »

How so? They have already beaten Rahillys and Templenoe. Kenmare will be a big test for them.

They kind of fell over the line in both games and I'm not sure how great either of them are. Basically Crokes are totally beatable now where before they were in the habit of steamrolling most teams.

An Ciarraioch · 07-08-2020 8:38pm

keane2097 wrote: »

They kind of fell over the line in both games and I'm not sure how great either of them are. Basically Crokes are totally beatable now where before they were in the habit of steamrolling most teams.

As if to prove your point, Kenmare beat them by a point this evening to qualify for the club final, and that even after having a penalty saved by Shane Ryan with two minutes remaining.

Poor_old_gill · 07-08-2020 8:41pm

keane2097 wrote: »

They kind of fell over the line in both games and I'm not sure how great either of them are. Basically Crokes are totally beatable now where before they were in the habit of steamrolling most teams.

I agree they have gone backwards but so have most of the other club sides & crokes are still the best club side

KOR have gone backwards and are way too reliant on Moran & Savage - especially now that Tommy is injured.
KOR should have beaten Kenmare & were very close against Crokes and this is, imo, a very weak KOR team

Stacks havent kicked on at all after all their strong underage teams while Kenmare & Templenoe are only ok really.

I know Kenmare just beat Crokes but I still think Crokes are better overall.

No club team will beat East Kerry this year

dobman88 · 07-08-2020 9:37pm

An Ciarraioch wrote: »

As if to prove your point, Kenmare beat them by a point this evening to qualify for the club final, and that even after having a penalty saved by Shane Ryan with two minutes remaining.

Or even saved by Shane Murphy.

keane2097 · 07-08-2020 11:22pm

Poor_old_gill wrote: »

I agree they have gone backwards but so have most of the other club sides & crokes are still the best club side

KOR have gone backwards and are way too reliant on Moran & Savage - especially now that Tommy is injured.
KOR should have beaten Kenmare & were very close against Crokes and this is, imo, a very weak KOR team

Stacks havent kicked on at all after all their strong underage teams while Kenmare & Templenoe are only ok really.

I know Kenmare just beat Crokes but I still think Crokes are better overall.

No club team will beat East Kerry this year

Correct on all counts for me.

ciarriaithuaidh · 08-08-2020 9:41am

Massive result from Kenmare last night, came from 6 down also. 2 down in last few mins. Helps when you have Seanie Shea in your team I guess!

I would agree on sentiment above re: Crokes.

With the likes of Tony Brosnan up front they will cause problems for anyone BUT some of the same names on the team sheet wouldn’t exactly strike fear into opposing teams for a while now. Some glaring weaknesses there and they haven’t had the sort of revamp I expected.

With the 2 lads from Valentia on board (a fairly sickening transfer it must be said) I expected Stacks to be a force this year but they were shocking against Kilcummin apparently and got out of jail.

Dingle look strong on paper, forward line could do wreck given the right ball. Conor Geaney is one to watch.

Barring any disruption though are any of those getting near East Kerry though - probably not.

Poor_old_gill · 08-08-2020 9:49am

ciarriaithuaidh wrote: »

Massive result from Kenmare last night, came from 6 down also. 2 down in last few mins. Helps when you have Seanie Shea in your team I guess!

I would agree on sentiment above re: Crokes.

With the likes of Tony Brosnan up front they will cause problems for anyone BUT some of the same names on the team sheet wouldn’t exactly strike fear into opposing teams for a while now. Some glaring weaknesses there and they haven’t had the sort of revamp I expected.

With the 2 lads from Valentia on board (a fairly sickening transfer it must be said) I expected Stacks to be a force this year but they were shocking against Kilcummin apparently and got out of jail.

Dingle look strong on paper, forward line could do wreck given the right ball. Conor Geaney is one to watch.

Barring any disruption though are any of those getting near East Kerry though - probably not.

That’s 3 games that kenmare have won whereby they have been behind goin into injury time- some balls in fairness. Sign of great character.

On the stacks transfers- I agree it was fairly sickening & what makes it worse is that stacks easily have the biggest pick of all the Tralee sides & have been very strong at underage level for a few years now.

They should be developing players like Michael o gara into a good midfielder rather than helping close down valentia gaa club

Forge83 · 08-08-2020 10:02am

An Ciarraioch wrote: »

As if to prove your point, Kenmare beat them by a point this evening to qualify for the club final, and that even after having a penalty saved by Shane Ryan with two minutes remaining.

Outside of O Shea, who from Kenmare is standing out? Surely Paul O Connor cannot be considered for inter county again?

Kerrydude1981 · 08-08-2020 10:18am

Rathmore have been really disappointing in the Intermediate

http://www.kerrygaa.ie/league/149636/

http://www.kerrygaa.ie/league/149637/

http://www.kerrygaa.ie/league/149638/

http://www.kerrygaa.ie/league/149639/

Its a pity they dont stream an Intermediate or Junior club game

Uncle Mclovin · 08-08-2020 10:18am

Poor_old_gill wrote: »

That’s 3 games that kenmare have won whereby they have been behind goin into injury time- some balls in fairness. Sign of great character.

On the stacks transfers- I agree it was fairly sickening & what makes it worse is that stacks easily have the biggest pick of all the Tralee sides & have been very strong at underage level for a few years now.

They should be developing players like Michael o gara into a good midfielder rather than helping close down valentia gaa club

Are the two Valentia lads living in Tralee? In fairness it's a long trek down to Valentia if they are.

Poor_old_gill · 08-08-2020 12:13pm

Uncle Mclovin wrote: »

Are the two Valentia lads living in Tralee? In fairness it's a long trek down to Valentia if they are.

Boys travel from Dublin to play with their club

dobman88 · 08-08-2020 12:27pm

Valentina v Cordal off today due to Valentia unable to field. Was always going to happen. I was surprised they put a team in at all but i suppose they wanted to try and keep the club going. Not sure if that just means they'll pull out or not now.

Poor_old_gill · 09-08-2020 3:19pm

dobman88 wrote: »

Valentina v Cordal off today due to Valentia unable to field. Was always going to happen. I was surprised they put a team in at all but i suppose they wanted to try and keep the club going. Not sure if that just means they'll pull out or not now.

Word is they are going to amalgamate with Skellig Rangers from next year

dobman88 · 09-08-2020 3:30pm

Poor_old_gill wrote: »

Word is they are going to amalgamate with Skellig Rangers from next year

A grand idea which makes sense to keep lads playing ball and the club somewhat alive

An Ciarraioch · 10-08-2020 8:01pm

Legion, Brendan's, South Kerry and East Kerry all win fairly comfortably in the minor QFs, with the last-named still firm favourites to retain their title.

wonga77 · 11-08-2020 4:35pm

Poor_old_gill wrote: »

Word is they are going to amalgamate with Skellig Rangers from next year

That story has been doing the rounds for 5 or 6 years at this stage. Valentia always seem to find a way, Portmagee have probably the biggest squad in South Kerry (according to the match programmes lately anyway)

Poor_old_gill · 11-08-2020 5:13pm

wonga77 wrote: »

That story has been doing the rounds for 5 or 6 years at this stage. Valentia always seem to find a way, Portmagee have probably the biggest squad in South Kerry (according to the match programmes lately anyway)

They just gave a walkover in the Junior Championship, so they are struggling more than ever to find a way.

ForeverYoung90 · 11-08-2020 7:51pm

When will the tickets be available on the Kerry Gaa site for the county championship matches on 22,23rd Aug. I missed out last week they sold out, is there a set time they are out?

Bass Reeves · 11-08-2020 9:52pm

ForeverYoung90 wrote: »

When will the tickets be available on the Kerry Gaa site for the county championship matches on 22,23rd Aug. I missed out last week they sold out, is there a set time they are out?

There is only 200/match so about 100/ club including players and coaches. I say all tickets are distributed through clubs.

dobman88 · 11-08-2020 10:05pm

ForeverYoung90 wrote: »

When will the tickets be available on the Kerry Gaa site for the county championship matches on 22,23rd Aug. I missed out last week they sold out, is there a set time they are out?

My club has been doing a members only draw. Anyone interested puts their name in. Seems fair enough way of doing it.

Cant see them being on general sale, would be rotten form if they were tbf.

Bass Reeves · 11-08-2020 10:11pm

dobman88 wrote: »

My club has been doing a members only draw. Anyone interested puts their name in. Seems fair enough way of doing it.

Cant see them being on general sale, would be rotten form if they were tbf.

Our own club allows players on the match day panel to buy a ticket for a family member, rest are drawn

dobman88 · 11-08-2020 10:12pm

Bass Reeves wrote: »

Our own club allows players on the match day panel to buy a ticket for a family member, rest are drawn

That's fair.

Bass Reeves · 11-08-2020 10:30pm

dobman88 wrote: »

That's fair.

Ya so I get to see the matches

thesultan · 17-08-2020 9:08am

Saw Kenmare Templenoe. Is Tadhg Morley injured?

Poor_old_gill · 21-08-2020 8:06pm

Quinlinan has made Stacks masters of off the ball handbags & late hits.

I said it on here a couple of years ago and it still stands - constant off the ball & cheap shots from them

benji79 · 21-08-2020 8:35pm

Fitzgerald must have said something fairly low. Some anger in Donaghys eyes there in that incident. You wouldn’t react to a former teammate like that for no reason

dobman88 · 21-08-2020 8:39pm

Poor_old_gill wrote: »

Quinlinan has made Stacks masters of off the ball handbags & late hits.

I said it on here a couple of years ago and it still stands - constant off the ball & cheap shots from them

Crokes wont be found wanting in that regard either tbf

Poor_old_gill · 21-08-2020 8:45pm

dobman88 wrote: »

Crokes wont be found wanting in that regard either tbf

Crokes can be quite bad - Payne especially but Stacks take the biscuit.

Like a northern team at times

Poor_old_gill · 21-08-2020 8:54pm

Phenomenally soft red for Burns - jesus what did the ref see there!!

benji79 · 21-08-2020 8:55pm

Harsh bit if a nothing kick out at donaghy

An Ciarraioch · 21-08-2020 8:55pm

Talk about a dramatic comeback: 1-2 deep into "garbage time" to level, and a Crokes red to boot!

benji79 · 21-08-2020 8:58pm

Technically correct red as “attempted “ is in wording. But no ref would give it

Poor_old_gill · 21-08-2020 9:05pm

benji79 wrote: »

Technically correct red as “attempted “ is in wording. But no ref would give it

Refs have to show a bit of common sense - theres a lot of things that are technical reds & yellows that are let go because they are not intentional or are harmless

benji79 · 21-08-2020 9:10pm

Poor_old_gill wrote: »

Refs have to show a bit of common sense - theres a lot of things that are technical reds & yellows that are let go because they are not intentional or are harmless[/QUOE]
Im not saying in any way I agree with decision. I wouldn’t give a red for it in a million years
But it’s technically one you wouldn’t actually manage to get overturned even as it will match the rule wording exactly if “attempted “

Poor_old_gill · 21-08-2020 9:13pm

benji79 wrote: »

Poor_old_gill wrote: »

Refs have to show a bit of common sense - theres a lot of things that are technical reds & yellows that are let go because they are not intentional or are harmless[/QUOE]
Im not saying in any way I agree with decision. I wouldn’t give a red for it in a million years
But it’s technically one you wouldn’t actually manage to get overturned even as it will match the rule wording exactly if “attempted “

I know what you meant and I know you are correct.

I just felt the need to point out the importance of common sense - like there is so much happening on the field that you could be calling frees and issuing cards every 30 seconds if you applied the exact letter of the law!

Poor_old_gill · 21-08-2020 9:18pm

Never a penalty - great dispossession by the Stacks guy.
Ref is havin a bit of a 'mare

DDC1990 · 21-08-2020 9:32pm

Shocking decision for the penalty but Crokes just about deserved the win. Crokes missing Shaw, Casey and White.

Looney an absolute warrior with a suspected broken hand.

Brosnan a cut above. 2-10 unreal.

Quilter and O'Connor brilliant for the Stacks.

Brilliant Championship game.

thesultan · 21-08-2020 11:36pm

Crokes conned the ref for three frees in a row including the penalty which was a good tackle

DDC1990 · 22-08-2020 10:16am

thesultan wrote: »

Crokes conned the ref for three frees in a row including the penalty which was a good tackle

They milked a few frees at vital stages alright but in each case a Stacks player had a hand on the back or a loose hand in.

2 I disagreed with were the penalty and Kieran O'Learys one where he when full speed to pick up a ball, fumbled and fell over. Looked to me like the Stacks player pulled out of the challenge. Would have to see from the other side to be sure.

Massive turning point in Extra Time was Ronan Shanahan going off. He was having a brilliant game.

Shane Murphy's kicking is exceptional. The ball to Brosnan for Looney's goal was spectacular.

Poor_old_gill · 22-08-2020 10:38am

DDC1990 wrote: »

They milked a few frees at vital stages alright but in each case a Stacks player had a hand on the back or a loose hand in.

2 I disagreed with were the penalty and Kieran O'Learys one where he when full speed to pick up a ball, fumbled and fell over. Looked to me like the Stacks player pulled out of the challenge. Would have to see from the other side to be sure.

Massive turning point in Extra Time was Ronan Shanahan going off. He was having a brilliant game.

Shane Murphy's kicking is exceptional. The ball to Brosnan for Looney's goal was spectacular.

Fully agree on the O Leary one aswell - O leary was never in control of the ball & the stacks player pulled out of the tackle.

Not a great showing from the ref

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