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How much savings do you have and what age are you?

  • 17-05-2020 7:33pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 5


    I am 28 and have around €50,000 saved. Is this too much or not enough at this stage? I can only manage to save €1,000 per month though. Do others of a similar age save much more?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,066 ✭✭✭CWF


    I am 28 and have around €50,000 saved. Is this too much or not enough at this stage? I can only manage to save €1,000 per month though. Do others of a similar age save much more?

    That's sounds v impressive to me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17 iQuestion


    I have €33,300 saved, and I am 24 years old.

    Saving between €1,000 and €1,600 per month.

    Planning to take out a mortgage for two bed apartment, this will be cheaper then my current rent of €950 per month.


  • Registered Users Posts: 136 ✭✭De Danann


    I'm 29 and have 15,000 saved.

    I didn't land a well paid job until my mid 20s, and travelled a lot with the money I did make so I'm content with what I have so far


  • Posts: 14,344 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    It mostly tends to come down: Do you have kids, a mortgage/rent, a car, etc.

    Friend of mine, 33 years old, has 12k saved, and was on the Dole his whole life. But he lives at home, has no girlfriend, no kids, no car, and plays xbox games all day.

    A different friend is 39 and has about €1,000 saved. But he has (with his wife) 2 kids, 2 cars, mortgage, etc.

    Now, there's nothing wrong with playing Xbox all day, to each their own, but it has a big impact on what you want to do and what kind of person you are. Friend of a friend (in his late 30s) works long shifts in a factory, and gets paid reasonably well for it. But hasn't a penny and drives the car equivalent of AIDS. But he's forever around the world taking trips, and exploring different places. It's all he enjoys doing, and he's always, always going somewhere.

    Personally, I have €10k and I'm 31. I could have a good bit more but I've sunk about 80k into a house loan and renovations (so far, still paying the mortgage). I also keep a car on the road, throw a few euro to my pensioner dad and would be generous, as a general rule of thumb, where possible with my family (at least the family members that I actually like). I don't have any kids, though, and my life can be very much week-to-week living. I aim to finish paying for this house in the next 4-5 years and save for another cheap, battered DIY'er house in a rural area.

    At 28, having 50k sounds a lot, but it depends what you want to do with it, and what you're currently doing. No point saying you'd love to see New York, but never doing it because you want to save a grand a month instead. Then locking yourself up into a massive mortgage and pondering your life away wondering why you never got to go skiing. Although instead, you might be the type of person who has no interest in any of that stuff and just loves to go hiking or gardening or other cheap and cheerful activities and you have a plan to get a house or a car or whatever and you're gearing your savings towards that.

    Everyone's different. Most people don't seem great at saving money, though, in my experience (I've been one of them for the last 30 years).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,215 ✭✭✭Sunrise_Sunset


    Different people have different priorities in life and these include financial priorities too. If you are thinking about your own wealth it's better to do a net worth calculation than base it purely only on savings. House, car, savings, pension, investments, debt are all considered in a net worth calculation and it's a much better indicator of wealth than savings alone.

    By all accounts I would say that 50k savings for a 28 year old is pretty good going though.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 62 ✭✭Make It Real


    I work a fair bit on money stuff with people, so have some insight into savings.

    I'd consider 50k saved by late 20s to be quite a lot (assuming it was earned, not inherited etc).

    Very simply put, its all down to what kind of salary people are on and what kind of lifestyle they live, of course. Some of the major outgoings mentioned above.

    One thing which is much more common than I'd imagined before is that lack of savings some people in their 30s / 40s / 50s onwards have. People with serious commitments, like kids, mortgage etc and maybe only 10k in savings. Which is sailing just far to close to the wind in my eyes...

    Anyway, well done on saving that much, but be clear what you're living for and what you're saving for!


  • Registered Users Posts: 29 AcidLollyPop


    I am 28 and have around €50,000 saved. Is this too much or not enough at this stage? I can only manage to save €1,000 per month though. Do others of a similar age save much more?

    50k is great! As long as you realise the following:

    - Youre having fun/doing things you want in your life now. Make sure youre saving (not hoarding). I just get this impression (am open to that am wrong) from your need to afirm/get validation that its hoarding, not saving.

    - In the next few years, I imagine you might want to buy a house. Possibly get married/kids. That will be your 50k gone. Be willing to use it/loose it in that case!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 302 ✭✭Muscles Schultz


    I am 28 and have around €50,000 saved. Is this too much or not enough at this stage? I can only manage to save €1,000 per month though. Do others of a similar age save much more?

    Big mistake if you’re not maxing out AVCs


  • Posts: 4,727 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I know a person that lived at home until they were 35 and paid no rent, never in a serious relationship, didn't drive, no kids. Saving money is really not hard when you have so few expenses.

    But a person that is married, drives, homeowner, has kid(s), probably won't have anything like 50K saved. Well, at least in the earlier years.

    So it all depends on your circumstances really. Just remember though, you cant take it with you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,582 ✭✭✭Dante


    29, with €150k saved so far. I was fortunate to land some well paid IT contractor roles quite early in my career.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,262 ✭✭✭Grueller


    39 and absolutely none. I have got very liquid assets though that can be cashed in within a week at any time and also some that would take months to liquidate and achieve their full value. Also I have no mortgage anymore, no car loans or any personal debt. Reasonable levels of business debt though.

    I have had savings at different times in the past but always empty them into some venture every few years. I will continue on this trend for another 10-15 years hopefully and then focus on putting something together for retirement.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,047 ✭✭✭Unearthly


    About 100k in property, and 50k in savings.

    34

    Most of it was saved during my 20's living at home, then life and responsibilities hit me


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 165 ✭✭FHFM50


    F**king hell these kind of threads depress me so much.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 511 ✭✭✭Kamu


    I am 27, I have a Civil Service Job on 30k per year and I have 30K saved so far.
    I save about 1000 per month.

    I am currently self-learning to code and possibly looking to return to do a Masters in Software Development as I want to move into a more (hopefully) fulfilling career.

    I holiday 1-2 times per year, (before this year) and if I want something, I will buy it a month later. Living a decently good life I would like to think.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,579 ✭✭✭charlietheminxx


    I had really good savings until we bought a house last year. Now I have around €2,500 in personal savings and we have another small amount in a joint savings account. It's been a big year on spending (I'm 32).


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭PowerToWait


    FHFM50 wrote: »
    F**king hell these kind of threads depress me so much.

    It’s not at all representative. Most of my mates have feck all, all with good jobs, businesses, houses, family. Most would struggle to fund a 10 grand emergency in late 30s early 40s.

    These threads are almost uniquely fir flexers. Why you would feel the need to anonymously state your bank balance is beyond me.

    I’ve 450 grand invested with 85k cash just in case. 36.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,363 ✭✭✭LessOutragePlz


    32 with about €3k in savings not too worried about it tbh.

    No point being the richest person in the graveyard after all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,114 ✭✭✭PhilOssophy


    43 and not much savings, clearing a mortgage ASAP and will be mortgage free by 50. Better off overpaying a mortgage than having savings


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,458 ✭✭✭chops018


    Go on, I'll set out my story....

    I'm 31. I have €16,000.00 saved. I am a Solicitor.

    I did a degree and a masters over 5 years and partially worked during them as I had a lot of support from my family and college fees back then were a lot smaller. I didn't really ever save during those times or if I did I had to use it eventually and it would be gone.

    I finished up in college fully in 2011. I did law. There was barely a job going in a petrol station, never mind in the legal field. So off I went on the dole for a while.

    I then said I would do the FE1s and look for a solicitor traineeship (entrance exams to be able to qualify as a Solicitor. They are notoriously hard). I worked in a cinema while doing them and got them done over 2 years. Actually saved €3,000.00 while working in the cinema but again it was dipped into for various things and went down. I was ambitious to break into law and did an unpaid internship and even a jobbridge. Didn't really save during these times. It was all week to week and having fun during your 20's.

    I eventually got a decent paying job in a legal department of a bank. Worked there for a year and saved around €10,000.00. However, I then got offered a solicitor traineeship, which is what I always wanted, in a mid-sized firm with a good reputation. This was 2015, and traineeships were still hard come by even though the country was picking up a bit. The terms were awful - had to pay my own law society fees and it was minimum wage salary while working with them. But, I always wanted to qualify as a Solicitor and I was still reasonable young so I said I'd get it done and knew I'd have to dip into savings and have 2 years on a small wage.

    I then qualified with the firm I trained in on €45,000.00 a year. After a year I moved to work as in-house Legal Counsel for a financial institution on €60,000.00 a year for a few months and loved it but it was in a bad location and took too long to commute to so I moved to a firm closer to home now on €55,000.00 per year.

    I didn't save much when I qualified at the beginning as after 2 years on minimum wage I wanted to enjoy a bit of the money again. I try to save €1,000.00 per month now. I could be saving a lot more and plan to increase it now as I want to get a mortgage in the next year.

    I know that despite being on low salary most of my 20's that I could still have been saving a bit as I lived at home, but that's not realistic if you want to enjoy your 20's and go out with your friends and meet people etc., overall I enjoyed my 20's. A few regrets but overall happy enough.

    I do always wonder, if I didn't go back and do the traineeship, I'd have kept saving and probably went up in salary. I might have had around €50,000.00 now if so.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,645 ✭✭✭krissovo


    I didn't have a penny in the bank until I was 38, lived in my overdraft and paycheck to paycheck. I had a blast!

    48 now and have 10k in a rainy day fund and about 7k in my current account. I have spent the last 10 years overpaying the mortgage (mortgage free next month), max my AVC contributions and have money tied up in investments like shares, crpto, a farm business and 1 property in spain. No loans which helps a lot.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,753 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    Age 40+

    Gross wealth = 475-500k

    Net wealth, after liabilities = 325k approx

    Wealth = value of house plus financial assets


  • Registered Users Posts: 491 ✭✭newbie18892


    I'm 25. Just finished college at the end of last year. Currently looking for work and I have €2,000 saved so far. Trying to put away as much of my dole payment as possible into savings while I still live at home


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,292 ✭✭✭TheBoyConor


    I am 33 and have 50k in savings. FFs, thought I was doing OK but now I feel like a failure. everyone sitting on hundeds of thousands of property, cash and investments. I don't even have a house. that 50k whatever it ends up as is supposed to form my house deposit.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,224 ✭✭✭Kilboor


    If you look at other people's savings and feel bad about your own don't worry. Everyone goes at a different pace and has different circumstances. We're all gonna make it.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKsxPW6i3pM


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 454 ✭✭snoopboggybog


    29

    23K in savings. The amount of money I blew on partying and travelling the last 7 years is crazy. Would probably have 60K saved at least.

    Copped onto myself this year and going to be an adult and get a mortgage next January.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 135 ✭✭Cobalt17


    20k in savings. I’m 27, and save 2k per month. My partner has about 5k in savings. The hope is to buy an apartment within a year, hopefully with a 40-50k deposit.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,292 ✭✭✭TheBoyConor


    What do you work at Colbalt?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 135 ✭✭Cobalt17


    What do you work at Colbalt?

    Software Engineer for an American tech company, so the salary is quite good.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,292 ✭✭✭TheBoyConor


    Ah yes. Fair play to you. I'd say it is mega hours n all though at the MNC.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 641 ✭✭✭sportsfan90


    I'm 29 and have €82k in savings. I stupidly have not a cent put into a pension yet though so I'm going to do that this year.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 135 ✭✭Cobalt17


    Ah yes. Fair play to you. I'd say it is mega hours n all though at the MNC.

    Feast or a famine to be honest. There’s big pushes every so often which require 16 hour days, but on quiet weeks, you can basically have free days. The entire philosophy is that they don’t really care what you do, as long as the job is done. If it’s done in half a week, the rest of the weeks yours.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,556 ✭✭✭✭yabadabado


    Big mistake if you’re not maxing out AVCs

    I've seen this on threads before but very little info available on AVCs. I had a meeting arranged with a advisor a few weeks back but that was cancelled. Hopefully get it sorted when ever we are back from lockdown.

    Would love to hear about any info or ideas you have on AVCs if you have the time or inclination .


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,508 ✭✭✭Manion


    Big mistake if you’re not maxing out AVCs

    Why do you say that? I've had a pension plan for the last ten years and christ it's a depressing read. More then a few times I've opened it up an been net down.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,354 ✭✭✭Padre_Pio


    Manion wrote: »
    Why do you say that? I've had a pension plan for the last ten years and christ it's a depressing read. More then a few times I've opened it up an been net down.

    Ya, but you're still up money.
    Your pension plan would have to fall by 40% for you to be better off taking the cash.

    Im 30, have about 30k saved in bank and another 30k in shares. Looking to buy a house

    I maxed out my AVCs probably have another 25k in pension with employers contribution, don't need the money and it'll mean less pressure when I'm older and looking at pension options.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,780 ✭✭✭✭ninebeanrows


    This thread makes me sad. I'll leave now and be sure never to come back.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,645 ✭✭✭krissovo


    Manion wrote: »
    Why do you say that? I've had a pension plan for the last ten years and christ it's a depressing read. More then a few times I've opened it up an been net down.

    If its net down after a booming stock market you are in the wrong fund. With pensions you manage the risk depending on when you need it. It will take a hit now with the current climate if you are in a high risk fund but it will recover just like after the last recession. If you are close to claiming them you move to lower risk lower yield pools.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 219 ✭✭greensausage


    35 and 8k in savings but have nearly zero borrowings just a couple of hundred on a credit card so it could be worse


  • Registered Users Posts: 400 ✭✭Warbeastrior


    FHFM50 wrote:
    F**king hell these kind of threads depress me so much.

    Only if ya believe everyone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,622 ✭✭✭Baby01032012


    44 and a couple of €m


  • Registered Users Posts: 400 ✭✭Warbeastrior


    I'm 39 and I've four of the six Infinity Stones.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,154 ✭✭✭✭Neil3030


    Forget families and mortgages; my biggest regret, and I feel the reason Irish people struggle so much to save: nights out.

    Work out a rough estimate of how much nights out cost you per week.

    Multiply this number by 1600.

    That's a conservative estimate (assuming an average 5% market return) of the opportunity cost of your nights out over a 20 year period.

    In other words, the money you would have in your account right now if you had instead put that X per week into a balanced investment fund returning 5% per year.

    Example:

    Average weekly cost of night outs: €100
    100*1600 = €160k

    Do the math if you don't believe me:
    Current principle: 0
    Annual addition: 5200
    Years to grow: 20
    Interest rate: 5%

    Future value: €166k

    Scariest thing is, in Ireland, 100 quid a week on nights out would be a fairly conservative estimate.... especially in Dublin...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,948 ✭✭✭0gac3yjefb5sv7


    Neil3030 wrote: »
    Forget families and mortgages; my biggest regret, and I feel the reason Irish people struggle so much to save: nights out.

    Work out a rough estimate of how much nights out cost you per week.

    Multiply this number by 1600.

    That's a conservative estimate (assuming an average 5% market return) of the opportunity cost of your nights out over a 20 year period.

    In other words, the money you would have in your account right now if you had instead put that X per week into a balanced investment fund returning 5% per year.

    Example:

    Average weekly cost of night outs: €100
    100*1600 = €160k

    Do the math if you don't believe me:
    Current principle: 0
    Annual addition: 5200
    Years to grow: 20
    Interest rate: 5%

    Future value: €166k

    Scariest thing is, in Ireland, 100 quid a week on nights out would be a fairly conservative estimate.... especially in Dublin...

    Interesting but more likely 0.000001pc interest unless you are dealing in equities which is not guaranteed 5pc a year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,154 ✭✭✭✭Neil3030


    MattS1 wrote: »
    Interesting but more likely 0.000001pc interest unless you are dealing in equities which is not guaranteed 5pc a year.

    Yeah you're right, it's closer to 6%, but I went with a conservative estimate ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,753 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    Neil3030 wrote: »

    Average weekly cost of night outs: €100
    100*1600 = €160k



    Scariest thing is, in Ireland, 100 quid a week on nights out would be a fairly conservative estimate.... especially in Dublin...

    When I go out in Dublin, I spend maybe:

    Tram = 2.00 + 2.00
    Beer = 30 approx
    Total = 35, maybe 40 max

    When I go out where I live, I spend 22 on beer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,154 ✭✭✭✭Neil3030


    Geuze wrote: »
    When I go out in Dublin, I spend maybe:

    Tram = 2.00 + 2.00
    Beer = 30 approx
    Total = 35, maybe 40 max

    When I go out where I live, I spend 22 on beer.

    You have far more sensible spending habits than I...

    So if the night out starts in the local, that'd be maybe 2 drinks: ~€10
    Last bus into town, or taxi if we missed it: €2-€7 (sharing the taxi if applicable)
    Box of cigarettes: €5-€10
    Nightclub entry: €5-€10
    Drinks in the nightclub: Say 4 drinks at... maybe 5-8 each: ~€25
    Kebab after: €10
    Taxi home: €10-€20 depending on whether the group dispersed

    So that's a fairly tame night out (no late bar crawl before nightclub, no trip to the casino afterward, total of 6 drinks, not getting stung on an unreturned round, etc):

    €80


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,544 ✭✭✭Hogzy


    Neil3030 wrote: »
    Forget families and mortgages; my biggest regret, and I feel the reason Irish people struggle so much to save: nights out.

    Work out a rough estimate of how much nights out cost you per week.

    Multiply this number by 1600.

    That's a conservative estimate (assuming an average 5% market return) of the opportunity cost of your nights out over a 20 year period.

    In other words, the money you would have in your account right now if you had instead put that X per week into a balanced investment fund returning 5% per year.

    Example:

    Average weekly cost of night outs: €100
    100*1600 = €160k

    Do the math if you don't believe me:
    Current principle: 0
    Annual addition: 5200
    Years to grow: 20
    Interest rate: 5%

    Future value: €166k

    Scariest thing is, in Ireland, 100 quid a week on nights out would be a fairly conservative estimate.... especially in Dublin...

    I get what youre saying but there is value in having a healthy social life and being able to blow off some steam. Im not saying one needs to spend 100eur per week on nights out to maintain a healthy social life though, to each their own. Given all that is going on in the world these days I can definetly say I miss meeting people for a casual few pints here and there or even going for a meal out or something, I have plenty of money saved from the last few months of lockdown but the lack of socialising has taken its toll elsewhere.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,154 ✭✭✭✭Neil3030


    Hogzy wrote: »
    I get what youre saying but there is value in having a healthy social life and being able to blow off some steam. Im not saying one needs to spend 100eur per week on nights out to maintain a healthy social life though, to each their own.

    Oh absolutely, I completely agree with you.

    But it's a nice baseline to gauge the benefit of at least scaling back.

    Say you get the €100 down to €80 per week, well, in 20 years that could mean €30k saved, etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,544 ✭✭✭Hogzy


    Neil3030 wrote: »
    Oh absolutely, I completely agree with you.

    But it's a nice baseline to gauge the benefit of at least scaling back.

    Say you get the €100 down to €80 per week, well, in 20 years that could mean €30k saved, etc.

    In my eyes all this will come when I have kids and even a whiff of a pint on a Friday night will be but a distant memory! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,154 ✭✭✭✭Neil3030


    Hogzy wrote: »
    In my eyes all this will come when I have kids and even a whiff of a pint on a Friday night will be but a distant memory! :D

    You'll be getting a whiff of something else, several times a day


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 39 Wii776


    These threads depress me. I'm 44, partnered and with kids. Renting, no savings, and no prospect of ever owning our own home. Partner works in precarious gig economy and I have small business. Both work hard, and have no real frivolous spending. Takeaway once a week. One foreign holiday in last 10 years. Reading about 20 somethings with 5 figure savings is depressing.
    We would be better off on the dole and a council house.


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