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New TG4 Idents

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    #2
    Rick_
    Registered Users Posts: 2,606 ✭✭✭Rick_


    The idents are nice, the on screen DOG being where it is and brighter than before is not...


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    byte
    Moderators, Regional North West Moderators Posts: 19,099 Mod ✭✭✭✭byte
    byte


    Indeed, I preferred the DOG being more opaque than it is now.


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    Delta2113
    Registered Users Posts: 2,671 ✭✭✭Delta2113


    I hate channels with a DOG and will avoid for that reason.


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    #5
    twinklerunner
    Registered Users Posts: 902 ✭✭✭twinklerunner


    Delta2113 wrote: »
    I hate channels with a DOG and will avoid for that reason.

    Not to mention the ‘Stay at Home’ nanny state on-screen graphics.


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    decor58
    Registered Users Posts: 831 ✭✭✭decor58


    Delta2113 wrote: »
    I hate channels with a DOG and will avoid for that reason.

    There are very few, fta at any rate, BBC 1&2 are the only ones that come to mind, most of the others have some form of DOG.


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    dulpit
    Registered Users Posts: 10,354 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    twinklerunner wrote: »
    Not to mention the ‘Stay at Home’ nanny state on-screen graphics.

    Nanny state :rolleyes:


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    swoofer
    Registered Users Posts: 5,416 ✭✭✭swoofer


    apparently most viewers dont notice the indents and those that do dont watch, so go figure!! netflix are very happy


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    byte
    Moderators, Regional North West Moderators Posts: 19,099 Mod ✭✭✭✭byte
    byte


    I think Sky have a good compromise on Sky One, Arts, etc. where the DOG appears only for a very short time when a programme starts or after an ad-break, before disappearing.


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    #10
    JDxtra
    Registered Users Posts: 5,871 ✭✭✭JDxtra


    The RTE One indents have to be at least 15 years old at this stage. They were shot in 4:3 and are now cropped. The font in the RTE logo was slightly altered not long after they were created, no problem say RTE - just overlay the updated logo on top of the old. It's still like that today.


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    #11
    JDxtra
    Registered Users Posts: 5,871 ✭✭✭JDxtra


    Yep, the RTE idents are 15 years old this year. Incredible. Incredibly embarrassing!

    https://presentationarchive.com/ireland/rte-one/rte-one-2014/


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    Elmo
    Registered Users Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    JDxtra wrote: »
    Yep, the RTE idents are 15 years old this year. Incredible. Incredibly embarrassing!

    https://presentationarchive.com/ireland/rte-one/rte-one-2014/

    I didn't realize they had been originally shot in 4:3, I just assumed they increased the size of the idents to achieve a new-ish look.

    They have had a few Idents for their themed weeks, such as the Farming Week.

    I also saw one the other week where the logo was not animated an some of the action was to the fore of the logo.

    It started with a few falling leaves brushing past the local followed by a shoreline where the logo was covered by a wave was it came in. However it fail to materialize as new idents.

    There is really no reason not to create new background images for the current logo, these 15 year old logos aren't the most creative at the end of the day.

    And when you insist on spending money on marketing things like

    Because...
    Supported by the License Fee..
    and a new logo for the NCO...

    Surely money better spent marketing your main TV channel.


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    icdg
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,520 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    There was a redo of all the presentation bar the idents in January 2014. Only the idents themselves, cropped as mentioned, remain from the 2006 look. It is still an incredibly long time for them to be on air - I don’t think an RTÉ One look had lasted more than three years since 1986 at that stage. When the 2014 look was created the “ONE” in RTÉ One was given a new font - it’s not overlaid on top of the old logo, it’s actually in a completely different place (the centre instead of the left hand side) and animates on screen. (You can see the original versions with the left aligned logo here: https://www.tvark.org/?page=391#/ )

    The RTÉ logo itself has not changed since 1995 (no need either, it’s a design classic).


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    Elmo
    Registered Users Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    Also noticed that they have stop using idents for particular programming, for example the "film" or "late night" idents are now seen before any TV programme.


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    lgs 4
    Registered Users Posts: 661 ✭✭✭lgs 4


    Going HD on Saorview. Be more a priority than bloody logos


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    JDxtra
    Registered Users Posts: 5,871 ✭✭✭JDxtra


    icdg wrote: »
    There was a redo of all the presentation bar the idents in January 2014. Only the idents themselves, cropped as mentioned, remain from the 2006 look. It is still an incredibly long time for them to be on air - I don’t think an RTÉ One look had lasted more than three years since 1986 at that stage. When the 2014 look was created the “ONE” in RTÉ One was given a new font - it’s not overlaid on top of the old logo, it’s actually in a completely different place (the centre instead of the left hand side) and animates on screen. (You can see the original versions with the left aligned logo here: https://www.tvark.org/?page=391#/ )

    The RTÉ logo itself has not changed since 1995 (no need either, it’s a design classic).

    Here's a screen grab directly from RTE One just now.

    I can see one logo on top of another. Both are VERY similar, however one has slightly thinner typography.

    ByNStzu.png


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    #17
    Elmo
    Registered Users Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    JDxtra wrote: »
    Here's a screen grab directly from RTE One just now.

    I can see one logo on top of another. Both are VERY similar, however one has slightly thinner typography.


    The new font (Klavika) is nicer than the Gill Sans.

    https://alandunne.ie/rte-one-tv-brand-identity


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