Can people in the South discern between different Nordie accents?

_Brian · 05-03-2019 11:12pm

Some can easily, my wife can give a good guess on the local of northern accents.

wakka12 · 05-03-2019 11:17pm

No I wouldnt be able to. But Ive not met a lot of northern irish people tbh, Im sure I could tell the accents apart if I started meeting lots of people from different areas of NI and talking to them a lot

Im not that good at even telling southern accents apart though I can tell Cork, galway, mayo, kerry accents and a few others, but I dont know what somebody from like Wexford or Carlow or cavan are supposed to sound like

Sam Hain · 05-03-2019 11:25pm

OldMrBrennan83 wrote: »

If they pronounce Hughes with a Q then they're from Tyrone (Thrrrone).

That is incorrect.

OldMrBrennan83 · 05-03-2019 11:26pm

Sam Hain wrote: »

That is incorrect.

That is incorrect.

Spleerbun · 05-03-2019 11:33pm

All sound the same to me. And I'm not very fond of the accent(s) to say the least

Ipso · 05-03-2019 11:38pm

True story, there was a man from Derry on Mastermind. It came to his time for the special subject, Magnus introduces Mr Doherty and asks him his specialist subject, Mr Doherty replies “Jazz, sir”.
The round begins:
Magnus Magnusson: Which instrument did Lionel Hampton introduce to jazz?
Mr Doherty: Don’t know, hey, sir.
Magnus Magnusson: Stylistically, cool jazz is the opposite of bebop. True or False.
Mr Doherty: Don’t know, hey, sir.
Magnus Magnusson: Duke Ellington led a big band and played what instrument?
Mr Doherty: Don’t know, hey, sir.

And so on it went and Mr Doherty didn’t get any of his questions correct.
After the cameras stopped, Magnus said to Mr Doherty “Sorry, I don’t meant to be rude, but do you know anything about jazz? You didn’t get any correct answers and this hasn’t happened before.”
Mr Doherty replied “Aye, jazz sir. That film with the big shark, sure I must have seen it a hundred times.”

Mad_maxx · 05-03-2019 11:40pm

ThomasFlynn wrote: »

I'm originally from England but have been living in Northern Ireland (Omagh and Belfast) for the past 18 years. I'm just curious as to whether people in the south can discern between the different accents up here? I.e. Differences in Belfast accents, Derry accents, Tyrone accents (where people pronounce Car as Kyee-ar Cabbage as Kyee-abbage etc) , North Antrim accents (i.e. people like Brendan Rodgers who sound Scottish at times).

Like if someone in Dublin spoke with a thick Tyrone or Derry accent, would people figure out he was specifically from Tyrone or Derry before he announced it? Or do people think Nordie's generally sound all the same?

West ulster accent is softer, unionists tend to have sharper accents regardless of location

Technique · 05-03-2019 11:44pm

Most southerners can't pronounce Tyrone, never mind distinguish the various accents.

Mad_maxx · 05-03-2019 11:45pm

Ipso wrote: »

True story, there was a man from Derry on Mastermind. It came to his time for the special subject, Magnus introduces Mr Doherty and asks him his specialist subject, Mr Doherty replies “Jazz, sir”.
The round begins:
Magnus Magnusson: Which instrument did Lionel Hampton introduce to jazz?
Mr Doherty: Don’t know, hey, sir.
Magnus Magnusson: Stylistically, cool jazz is the opposite of bebop. True or False.
Mr Doherty: Don’t know, hey, sir.
Magnus Magnusson: Duke Ellington led a big band and played what instrument?
Mr Doherty: Don’t know, hey, sir.

And so on it went and Mr Doherty didn’t get any of his questions correct.
After the cameras stopped, Magnus said to Mr Doherty “Sorry, I don’t meant to be rude, but do you know anything about jazz? You didn’t get any correct answers and this hasn’t happened before.”
Mr Doherty replied “Aye, jazz sir. That film with the big shark, sure I must have seen it a hundred times.”

Frank Carson joke?

"way ya tell em" perhaps?

retalivity · 05-03-2019 11:48pm

Im from west donegal, living in dublin, was asked yesterday by a cork man if i was from belfast.

Wile carry-on altogether.

DundalkDuffman · 06-03-2019 12:03am

Rennaws wrote: »

I’d know Donegal and Cavan border but away from that I wouldn’t have a rashers.

Get your map out you Leitrim denialist !

SharpshooterTom · 06-03-2019 12:09am

There's supposed to a real difference between the Lancashire and Yorkshire accents in England, but to most southerners (like me) they all sound the same.

People from those two counties think its dead obvious. And that there are differences reportedly between a Bolton accent, a Manchester accent, and Sheffield accent, a Leeds accent. Wouldn't have a notion personally, but the people up there its obvious.

dd973 · 06-03-2019 12:42am

Came across a very interesting book years back about linguistic patterns in Ulster, apparently many rural Anglican settlers west of the Bann came from the English West Country and to this day have softer, milder accents and political/cultural affiliations than the Scots Presbyterian settlers.

A far as identifying them I can generally only spot the urban working class Belfast area accent, the middle class Belfast area one which is more associated with Unionists but is shared by middle class Catholics, the North Antrim Brendan Rodgers one which could pass for Scottish and a generic rural one, a Donegal or Cavan native would probably have to tell me they weren't from 'the North'.

Apparently on a localised level there's linguistic patterns and twists which differentiate Falls and Shankill people whom are only about a mile part, if that.

dd973 · 06-03-2019 12:46am

ThomasFlynn wrote: »

There's supposed to a real difference between the Lancashire and Yorkshire accents in England, but to most southerners (like me) they all sound the same.

People from those two counties think its dead obvious. And that there are differences reportedly between a Bolton accent, a Manchester accent, and Sheffield accent, a Leeds accent. Wouldn't have a notion personally, but the people up there its obvious.

Bolton : Peter Kay

Manchester/Salford : Kevin Webster out of Corrie, has a slight Scouse ring to it.

Leeds : Jimmy Saville

Sheffield : Neil Warnock, they're phobic about the definite article in South Yorkshire for some reason, 'I was going up 'road 'other day'.

Kevin Finnerty · 06-03-2019 12:53am

retalivity wrote: »

Im from west donegal, living in dublin, was asked yesterday by a cork man if i was from belfast.

Wile carry-on altogether.

I've done that. Riles them no end, you need to hold the face for it. Maybe he meant it though, theres thickos here too.

Franz Von Peppercorn · 06-03-2019 1:04am

ThomasFlynn wrote: »

There's supposed to a real difference between the Lancashire and Yorkshire accents in England, but to most southerners (like me) they all sound the same.

People from those two counties think its dead obvious. And that there are differences reportedly between a Bolton accent, a Manchester accent, and Sheffield accent, a Leeds accent. Wouldn't have a notion personally, but the people up there its obvious.

I can definitely tell scouse from Sheffield. Bolton I don’t know. I mean Liverpool is very distinctive.

SharpshooterTom · 06-03-2019 1:13am

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

I can definitely tell scouse from Sheffield. Bolton I don’t know. I mean Liverpool is very distinctive.

Do you think most Irish people can tell a Scouse and a Geordie accent?

I don't think most Americans/Canadians can (if they can even understand one in the first place)

Ipso · 06-03-2019 1:14am

ThomasFlynn wrote: »

Do you think most Irish people can tell a Scouse and a Geordie accent?

I don't most Americans/Canadians can (if they can even understand one in the first place)

Aye, Aye Mr Partridge!

Franz Von Peppercorn · 06-03-2019 1:29am

ThomasFlynn wrote: »

Do you think most Irish people can tell a Scouse and a Geordie accent?

Definitely. I definitely can. The difference between them to me is night and day.

I don't think most Americans/Canadians can (if they can even understand one in the first place)

But we watch more English TV. Soccer etc.

The difference between Steven Gerrard vs Alan Shearer is clearly obvious to my ears. And most Irish people.

Birmingham is also fairly distinctive. I get London accents too. East from west.

JupiterKid · 06-03-2019 1:30am

Belfast born myself and nearly all my close relatives are Nordies so I can pretty easily discern differences. There does seem to be a broad East-West divide with the 3 western counties and Donegal generally having a softer brogue. The Tyrone and Fermanagh accents in particular can be very soft.

Also a class divide as well-heeled South Belfast and North Down are very distinct from East or West Belfast or South Antrim.

And there's a noticeable difference between Derry city and the county.

SharpshooterTom · 06-03-2019 3:45am

amcalester wrote: »

I grew up 5km from the border and it’s all just Nordie to me.

There’s varying degrees of annoying but I couldn’t place them on a map.

What about South Armagh accents?

My Dad grew up literally on the Louth/South Armagh border went to school in Dundalk but also socialised in Crossmaglen, he used to tell me there was a difference between Dundalk and a Cross accent. To me around there they just sound all the same.

But South Armagh accents are surely much closer to Louth than to Belfast?

Witchie · 06-03-2019 5:45am

ThomasFlynn wrote: »

There's supposed to a real difference between the Lancashire and Yorkshire accents in England, but to most southerners (like me) they all sound the same.

People from those two counties think its dead obvious. And that there are differences reportedly between a Bolton accent, a Manchester accent, and Sheffield accent, a Leeds accent. Wouldn't have a notion personally, but the people up there its obvious.

Was chatting to a man in a pub here in Malaysia and although was pretty sure I knew where he was from, I did the polite conversation and asked. He said he was from near Manchester. I said, you sound more like someone from Bolton.

He was from Bolton. Just hadn't expected anyone to know where the was as he had been living in Asia for 20 years.

There is a difference.

I am from Monaghan and always got asked if am from Belfast when was living in Dublin or having said I was from Monaghan, was asked about sterling and living as the Queen's subject. Twats didn't know we are in the south.

I don't even have a real Monaghan accent, just a slight twang. Until am drunk. Then the nordy truly comes out hai.

Philipx · 06-03-2019 8:29am

Newry.....just use 'wee' as every other word in your sentences...

"would you like a wee bag for that?"

"Just put your wee card in the wee machine"

"would you like a wee receipt?"

If you say effin wee once more I'll have an effin wee on your wee effin counter

:p:p:p

stoneill · 06-03-2019 8:32am

South of you or south of me?

all the bais · 06-03-2019 8:51am

*Londonderry

Mad_maxx · 06-03-2019 9:34am

ThomasFlynn wrote: »

What about South Armagh accents?

My Dad grew up literally on the Louth/South Armagh border went to school in Dundalk but also socialised in Crossmaglen, he used to tell me there was a difference between Dundalk and a Cross accent. To me around there they just sound all the same.

But South Armagh accents are surely much closer to Louth than to Belfast?

Crossmaglen is barely inside northern Ireland, its similar to a louth accent and a paddy kavanagh iniskeen monaghan accent, that triangle has just about the most ear assaulting accents in the world outside New Zealand

Mad_maxx · 06-03-2019 9:37am

Witchie wrote: »

Was chatting to a man in a pub here in Malaysia and although was pretty sure I knew where he was from, I did the polite conversation and asked. He said he was from near Manchester. I said, you sound more like someone from Bolton.

He was from Bolton. Just hadn't expected anyone to know where the was as he had been living in Asia for 20 years.

There is a difference.

I am from Monaghan and always got asked if am from Belfast when was living in Dublin or having said I was from Monaghan, was asked about sterling and living as the Queen's subject. Twats didn't know we are in the south.

I don't even have a real Monaghan accent, just a slight twang. Until am drunk. Then the nordy truly comes out hai.

Monaghan has a fairly big variation of accents, big difference between carrickmacross and emmyvale or even mid monaghan, south monaghan might as well be meath at times

Whehey! · 06-03-2019 10:48am

I'm from Wexford and on multiple occasions over the years I have been asked if I'm Northern Irish? Apparently I have a twang of it.

Altho in saying that, I love the Northern accent!

gozunda · 06-03-2019 10:53am

Tell the differences between different Norn Iron accents?

Aye surely - that's nothing, so it is...

topper75 · 06-03-2019 11:00am

wakka12 wrote: »

... but I dont know what somebody from like ... Carlow .. sound like

Easy.

It's just a soft country accent but you swap out all the internal 't's for glottal stops.

So I'll not be eating any potatoes tonight Mattie becomes I'll naw be eehin any potahoes tonigh Mahhie.

Can people in the South discern between different Nordie accents?

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