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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83,413 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
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    I heard most of the editing department were on sick leave, D'Arcy was the only man on campus so the editing fell to him on this occasion


    I can imagine his tape splicing isn't exactly seemless, he would use the old ways so to speak...
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,420 ✭✭✭✭sligojoek


    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin//showthread.php?t=2058056894&page=639

    Here's where Sligojoe refers to when Joe said that even if the virus did come to Ireland it wouldn't kill us.



    https://www.rte.ie/radio/radioplayer...adio1/21720780

    I knew I didn't imagine it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,798 ✭✭✭goose2005


    There is no way there should be so much discussion of these two solicitors and NO discussion of the Terenure College abuse case.

    Probably afraid of libel suits, Terenure is hardly the only posh school to have employed a nonce


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    goose2005 wrote: »
    Probably afraid of libel suits, Terenure is hardly the only posh school to have employed a nonce

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  • Registered Users Posts: 338 ✭✭Clon63


    Mena Mitty wrote: »
    They'd look well on the Jag wid matching rear Spoiler and a CB aerial.

    Rallying over and back to the Northsoide he'd look the part.

    But whoy would Joe need an aetial to listen to Clare Byrne and her lifestyle show? Sure we all know Joe do be do listening to his broadcaster of choice the BBC


  • Registered Users Posts: 338 ✭✭Clon63


    Joe is similar to the Anglo lads - likes to pick numbers or facts from his a**e. Like saying he cant mention the mitigation offered by Mrs Fraudster. It was said in public in court and reported. What is more questionable is the EVIL EVIL EVIL schtik.

    Like others have said was "impressed" by John Lonergan. Not a fan usually but he stood up to Joe and kinsa "checked" him fir trying to over tabloid the story just like the journo the other day. And the only "caller" who called outraged was Whacker ex resident of C wing

    Normally like Alice Leahy who I have heard speak before about how difficult it can be to work with some homeless and how challenging some homeless to be. She was like a nodding dog for Joe. She is normally a realist about homelessness and accepts that not all homeless people are a foreva home away from law abiding life, brilliant qualifications and a solid working life. Obviously though all the kids would be able to study medicine the same time due to Joes inspirational Third Level policy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,420 ✭✭✭✭sligojoek


    The whole homeless thing is a red herring. None of them were discommoded. I'm sure the authorities restored their files to default after this was all sorted. If, and when, please god.. please god, any of them get back on the straight and narrow and need a car loan, their credit rating will be the same as it ever was.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    A golden nugget from way back in 2007:
    Judge's charge against RTE must be 'taken seriously'
    October 14 2007 04:49 AM

    A charge by a High Court judge that, effectively, RTE is misleading its listeners, "must be taken seriously", the new chairman of the Oireachtas Joint Committee on Broadcasting has said.

    Mr Justice Paul Carney's damning criticism of the Liveline radio programme, and its host Joe Duffy, is the latest in a chorus of concern about the apparent lack of transparency behind the making of the programme.

    Liveline is marketed by RTE to its listeners as an opportunity for members of the public to telephone the State broadcaster to discuss topics of the day with the host.

    However, there is growing evidence to suggest that the programme makers actively pursue participants to generate heated and what occasionally turn into unbalanced debates on controversies.

    This increasingly regular phenomenon is publicly rejected by RTE, which has claimed that a majority of callers to Liveline result from them contacting the show, either to suggest a topic or to respond to something.

    But he added: "When a High Court judge makes a criticism of a programme, it has to be taken seriously."

    Yesterday, however, RTE was remaining silent about the charge made by Mr Justice Carney.

    "We won't be making any comment," an RTE spokeswoman said.

    However, the Sunday Independent understands that behind the scenes in RTE there is concern at the regularity with which Liveline fails to adhere to its marketed purpose as a phone-in programme.

    The senior judge said: "Finally, we got an interesting insight into how Mr Joe Duffy operates. In the explosive atmosphere after sentence being imposed, in ignorance of who he was, one of Mr Duffy's researchers approached a court official looking for a comment. This shatters the myth of Mr Duffy being a kindly old gentleman who sits by his telephone in Dublin waiting for it to ring.
    "

    The Broadcasting Complaints Commission (BCC) recently heard a complaint from a member of the public which goes to the heart of the charge made.

    It related to a Liveline programme on November 21, 2006, concerning the murder of a Latvian woman in Dublin.

    The complainant, a Mr Raymond Duggan, submitted that though Liveline is being marketed as a programme where listeners "ring in" of their own accord to discuss a topic, the programme often rings people and asks them to air their views.

    Mr Duggan suggested that the show fails to make this clear to the listener and gave a misleading impression. Mr Duggan believed this practice to be deceptive, and felt that it may allow the programme to "pursue an agenda that the listener is unaware of".

    In this case, RTE submitted that a majority of callers to Liveline result from them contacting the show. "Occasionally," according to RTE, "the programme's production team may contact an interested party to alert them to a point of view raised by a caller, so as to afford them the opportunity of going on air."

    The comments last week of Mr Justice Carney would appear to add validity to Mr Duggan's complaint, which was not upheld by the BCC. The Sunday Independent is aware of scenarios similar to those expressed by Mr Duggan and Mr Justice Carney.

    This newspaper recently spoke to a grieving widower who told of how, several years ago, his then seriously ill wife had discussed a particular issue on the show.

    When the show's producers subsequently learned that she had died from cancer, they rang her husband, and encouraged him to go on air.

    A shy man, he refused -- but he did offer some comments off-air. He says Mr Duffy then "misleadingly" told his listeners that the man had contacted the show.

    Speaking recently about his experience, the widower said: "It left me very angry. The way it was portrayed on air, it was like I rang in.
    The show phoned me, and while they were courteous in their dealings with me on the phone, Joe's comments were misleading and unfair."

    In recent months several participants have stated on air that they had been contacted by Liveline.

    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/judges-charge-against-rte-must-be-taken-seriously-26324865.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,669 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Good to see nothing has changed since...

    Actually think they've got worse


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,420 ✭✭✭✭sligojoek


    Liveline is marketed by RTE to its listeners as an opportunity for members of the public to telephone the State broadcaster to discuss topics of the day with the host.

    .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,420 ✭✭✭✭sligojoek




  • Registered Users Posts: 4,792 ✭✭✭ShamNNspace


    Justice Carney was a bit of a ticket but he seemed to be on the ball here


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    It's clear he has been trying to drum up interest about Cork's Bonnie & Clyde solicitors, and I extrapolate that he wants the conversation to continue into disgruntlement with solicitors in general. He last emphasised that white collar crime doesn't garner due attention the way blue collar (whacker whacks) crime does, and even admitted people don't call in about it! That was after telling us that everyone was getting exercised by the Cork duo and clamouring to get on the airways. He can't seem to make up his mind which way it is. He's desperately trying to get people on to complain about their encounters with the front-of-house people of the legal profession, like a dog with a bone. I say again he probably had such an encounter himself and wants to express his contempt vicariously through his callers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,028 ✭✭✭✭ButtersSuki


    It's clear he has been trying to drum up interest about Cork's Bonnie & Clyde solicitors, and I extrapolate that he wants the conversation to continue into disgruntlement with solicitors in general. He last emphasised that white collar crime doesn't garner due attention the way blue collar (whacker whacks) crime does, and even admitted people don't call in about it! That was after telling us that everyone was getting exercised by the Cork duo and clamouring to get on the airways. He can't seem to make up his mind which way it is. He's desperately trying to get people on to complain about their encounters with the front-of-house people of the legal profession, like a dog with a bone. I say again he probably had such an encounter himself and wants to express his contempt vicariously through his callers.

    Not sure. I don’t think he has the restraint to hold back and not mention his own experience (should he have had one) - esp. when he loses his temper.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Not sure. I don’t think he has the restraint to hold back and not mention his own experience (should he have had one) - esp. when he loses his temper.

    It would have to come to losing the rag, though, for that to happen... and it's clear he wants to do that. He's trying to bait callers to come on, the bait would then be for some solicitor to come on that he could tear asunder. That's the plan.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,028 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    Maybe Duffys rage with the legal profession hasn't reached the courts yet


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,420 ✭✭✭✭sligojoek




  • Registered Users Posts: 4,485 ✭✭✭KevRossi


    He last emphasised that white collar crime doesn't garner due attention the way blue collar (whacker whacks) crime does, and even admitted people don't call in about it!

    Let's name some white collar criminals who were featured on Liveline; take two in Pat Hickey and Ivor Callely. Then look at the biased treatment Joe gave them.

    He has a bee in his bonnet about the legal profession. Maybe a year ago he led off on something about judges by describing them in 'their greasy nightcaps and nightshirts'. So what's his issue?

    Maybe it stems back from the day when he broke his leg . He settled out of court rather than having the settlement known. Possible that the insurance company gambled on this and lowballed him. Or it's something petty like he's had his planning refused.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    KevRossi wrote: »
    Let's name some white collar criminals who were featured on Liveline; take two in Pat Hickey and Ivor Callely. Then look at the biased treatment Joe gave them.

    He has a bee in his bonnet about the legal profession. Maybe a year ago he led off on something about judges by describing them in 'their greasy nightcaps and nightshirts'. So what's his issue?

    Maybe it stems back from the day when he broke his leg . He settled out of court rather than having the settlement known. Possible that the insurance company gambled on this and lowballed him. Or it's something petty like he's had his planning refused.

    Regarding the last item I think he's expanded his living premises as much as they can be, horizontally at least, but maybe there was some feature refused. It could stem from long ago, but he seems to have renewed vigour.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,028 ✭✭✭✭ButtersSuki


    KevRossi wrote: »
    Let's name some white collar criminals who were featured on Liveline; take two in Pat Hickey and Ivor Callely. Then look at the biased treatment Joe gave them.

    He has a bee in his bonnet about the legal profession. Maybe a year ago he led off on something about judges by describing them in 'their greasy nightcaps and nightshirts'. So what's his issue?

    Maybe it stems back from the day when he broke his leg . He settled out of court rather than having the settlement known. Possible that the insurance company gambled on this and lowballed him. Or it's something petty like he's had his planning refused.

    Could be.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,028 ✭✭✭✭ButtersSuki


    Regarding the last item I think he's expanded his living premises as much as they can be, horizontally at least, but maybe there was some feature refused. It could stem from
    Long ago, but he seems to have renewed vigour.

    But but but but but wouldn't his gripe be with the Planners then and not a solicitor if PP was refused so to speak?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,028 ✭✭✭✭ButtersSuki


    KevRossi wrote: »
    Let's name some white collar criminals who were featured on Liveline; take two in Pat Hickey and Ivor Callely. Then look at the biased treatment Joe gave them.

    He has a bee in his bonnet about the legal profession. Maybe a year ago he led off on something about judges by describing them in 'their greasy nightcaps and nightshirts'. So what's his issue?

    Maybe it stems back from the day when he broke his leg . He settled out of court rather than having the settlement known. Possible that the insurance company gambled on this and lowballed him. Or it's something petty like he's had his planning refused.

    He also famously went on a ant about not getting sick pay from RTE when he hurted de leg and dat. This displaying his complete lack of understanding of the differences between being a contractor and an employee, as well as the fact he was financially compensated through the courts/inshuredance for de leg break, and you'd assume such an award would include a provision for loss of earnings.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    In Aldi today I had to address two people regarding socially distancing etc. I felt a woman behind me in the checkout queue virtually breathing down my neck, then the check out girl had her mask off her face. Whilst maintaining basic politeness I had to muster the exact same steely grit I used when escorting escort a man from the library premises after he exposed the full flesh extent of his erect member (pretended he hadn't noticed his zip was down or his hand movements though I dare say his pleasure was being scolded so to speak).

    Having said that, I now find myself in the guilty position of being a total hypocrite and have planned a rather harmless "illegal" encounter tomorrow (first since December!) with a story for the guards on the ready. Karma will serve me right if I'm arrested. But at least it's an agreement of calculated risk and it's not casual strangers imposing their potential virus upon unwitting recipients who are going about essential business of buying groceries.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,028 ✭✭✭✭ButtersSuki


    In Aldi today I had to address two people regarding socially distancing etc. I felt a woman behind me in the checkout queue virtually breathing down my neck, then the check out girl had her mask off her face. Whilst maintaining basic politeness I had to muster the exact same steely grit I used when escorting escort a man from the library premises after he exposed the full flesh extent of his erect member (pretended he hadn't noticed his zip was down or his hand movements though I dare say his pleasure was being scolded so to speak).

    Having said that, I now find myself in the guilty position of being a total hypocrite and have planned a rather harmless "illegal" encounter tomorrow (first since December!) with a story for the guards on the ready. Karma will serve me right if I'm arrested. But at least it's an agreement of calculated risk and it's not casual strangers imposing their potential virus upon unwitting recipients who are going about essential business of buying groceries.

    The biggest shock for me in the above is that the state pension receiving millionaire ;) world traveller shops in Aldi!

















    I'm joking!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,028 ✭✭✭✭ButtersSuki


    In Aldi today I had to address two people regarding socially distancing etc. I felt a woman behind me in the checkout queue virtually breathing down my neck, then the check out girl had her mask off her face. Whilst maintaining basic politeness I had to muster the exact same steely grit I used when escorting escort a man from the library premises after he exposed the full flesh extent of his erect member (pretended he hadn't noticed his zip was down or his hand movements though I dare say his pleasure was being scolded so to speak).

    Having said that, I now find myself in the guilty position of being a total hypocrite and have planned a rather harmless "illegal" encounter tomorrow (first since December!) with a story for the guards on the ready. Karma will serve me right if I'm arrested. But at least it's an agreement of calculated risk and it's not casual strangers imposing their potential virus upon unwitting recipients who are going about essential business of buying groceries.


    I have encountered similar "idiocracy" myself so to speak when doing de messages and dat.

    There were a group of 150 HSE Staff in a Private Hospital getting vaccinations this week. The Private Hospital Vaccination Team had to repeatedly ask a large number of them to put on masks (!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) and to maintain social distancing in the hospital. You couldn't make this up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,302 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    In Aldi today I had to address two people regarding socially distancing etc. I felt a woman behind me in the checkout queue virtually breathing down my neck, then the check out girl had her mask off her face. Whilst maintaining basic politeness I had to muster the exact same steely grit I used when escorting escort a man from the library premises after he exposed the full flesh extent of his erect member (pretended he hadn't noticed his zip was down or his hand movements though I dare say his pleasure was being scolded so to speak).

    Having said that, I now find myself in the guilty position of being a total hypocrite and have planned a rather harmless "illegal" encounter tomorrow (first since December!) with a story for the guards on the ready. Karma will serve me right if I'm arrested. But at least it's an agreement of calculated risk and it's not casual strangers imposing their potential virus upon unwitting recipients who are going about essential business of buying groceries.
    Aldi is horrendous for it tbh :(

    But...now my mind is racing about this illegal encounter...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,239 ✭✭✭✭Losty Dublin


    He also famously went on a ant about not getting sick pay from RTE when he hurted de leg and dat. This displaying his complete lack of understanding of the differences between being a contractor and an employee, as well as the fact he was financially compensated through the courts/inshuredance for de leg break, and you'd assume such an award would include a provision for loss of earnings.

    Why would RTÉ have to pay you sick leave, Joe? You're a contractor, not an employee.

    I'm just shocked that he didn't ring up Liveline on RTÉ to complain to himself about RTÉ.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I have encountered similar "idiocracy" myself so to speak when doing de messages and dat.

    There were a group of 150 HSE Staff in a Private Hospital getting vaccinations this week. The Private Hospital Vaccination Team had to repeatedly ask a large number of them to put on masks (!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) and to maintain social distancing in the hospital. You couldn't make this up.

    At least the check-put girl donned her mask again it with very good grace and was actually very pleasant. I'd say everyone around probably thought I was a guard. When you have worked decades being in charge of a public building, where all sorts are encountered, it does give you an ability to steel yourself, step outside of your own "vulnerability" and take whatever consequence comes your way; a kitten with a lion within.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,021 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    gmisk wrote: »
    Aldi is horrendous for it tbh :(

    But...now my mind is racing about this illegal encounter...

    Saw a Q Yesterday, the first time in a while at Aldi Tullamore, social distancing a thing of the past I'm afraid, free for all at the entrance, Isles filled with people, in fairness staff had masks on but certainly noticing people becoming very very relaxed

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,021 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    Looks like Cork will be on Joe's topic list again today and for all the wrong reasons, shocking incident there last evening

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




  • Registered Users Posts: 8,530 ✭✭✭PieOhMy


    The first fine days in galway comming up are going to be like the last days of rome in my opinion.

    As soon as some change in the weather comes it's going to be a free for all for a large number of people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,128 ✭✭✭✭dvcireland


    1) Shaw Academy , Free Courses me arse
    2) Go Vegan Billboards, can you geta vegan coddle
    3) Rogue Solictors, whacker still upset
    40 more than likeley back to Blue Potential Miss Ireland

    "...no Joe, you rang me !..." A.Caller.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,420 ✭✭✭✭sligojoek


    Shaw online learning company.
    Deja Vu

    Obscene images on billboards.

    Cork solicitors again. Clip of william the ex prisoner.

    Homeless man approached by Lyndsay Clarke. Joe's boner for her has not subsided.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83,413 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    T'day...
    Have you had any dealings with de Shaw Academy, listeners signed up for free courses but ended up having to pay, whoy?
    Go Vegan Wurdled billboards, have you seen them, a caller will be going on a detour via northridden Magadan to bring their children to school rather than passing it.
    Cork solicitors again for the 3rd day


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,530 ✭✭✭PieOhMy


    Today?

    De shaw academy to be shut down by 3pm

    Billboards in dublin for vegans. Are they in the rest of ireland besides Dublin? Who cares!

    Clip of a 20 year inmate yesterday that joe had a great laugh with. He has noticed the sexist difference in the sentencing to be fair.

    Apparently a homeless guy who was approached by lindsay will be on. I think even joe seems sceptical about this chancer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,239 ✭✭✭✭Losty Dublin


    On tudae's showeh....
    • The Shaw Academy. Scamming innocents online with free stuff that wasn't really free in the first place.

    • Go Vegan bill boards. Their sickening posters are driving people off the scale and the long road to school.

      aldi-rip-off-coca-cola-in-new-kevin-the-carrot-christmas-ad.jpg

    • Those evil solicitors. His nickname was "Lucky" so to speak and she heinously opened the bank account first off. Complete with an audio clip from Whacker, who called in to complain that he never got to work in the kitchen in Arbour Hill and he put in a good 20 year shift there. Talk about honour among thieves!!!



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    All this and more frontier gibberish in an hours time.....


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,775 ✭✭✭bmorrissey


    PieOhMy wrote: »
    Today?

    De shaw academy to be shut down by 3pm

    Billboards in dublin for vegans. Are they in the rest of ireland besides Dublin? Who cares!

    Clip of a 20 year inmate yesterday that joe had a great laugh with. He has noticed the sexist difference in the sentencing to be fair.

    Apparently a homeless guy who was approached by lindsay will be on. I think even joe seems sceptical about this chancer.

    I dont think they are anywhere outside dublin...i could be wrong however


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    Dempo1 wrote: »
    Saw a Q Yesterday, the first time in a while at Aldi Tullamore, social distancing a thing of the past I'm afraid, free for all at the entrance, Isles filled with people, in fairness staff had masks on but certainly noticing people becoming very very relaxed

    Was Mena wearing her mask and did she get too close to you? :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,028 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    Served 20 years in Arbour Hill?

    Was he a priest?


  • Registered Users Posts: 870 ✭✭✭barney shamrock


    sligojoek wrote: »
    .. homeless man approached by Lyndsay Clarke. Joe's boner for her has not subsided.

    Neither has mine tbh.


  • Posts: 11,614 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    T'day...
    Have you had any dealings with de Shaw Academy, listeners signed up for free courses but ended up having to pay, whoy?
    Go Vegan Wurdled billboards, have you seen them, a caller will be going on a detour via northridden Magadan to bring their children to school rather than passing it.
    Cork solicitors again for the 3rd day

    I think I might skip it today.

    I don't know what Joes agenda is with the Montenotte Two but it's really getting old.

    Vegan Billboards.

    And you don't go to prison for 20 years for not paying your TV License. Generally, you have to have done something serious. Joe having the craic with your man was just sickening.

    Joe: And if you dont mind me asking, what did you do John?
    John: I killed 5 children in Reno Joe, just to watch them die
    Joe: Oh well done! Well done! But that doesn't compare with the face of EVIL that is those two smug pricks from Cork.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,530 ✭✭✭PieOhMy


    bmorrissey wrote: »
    I dont think they are anywhere outside dublin...i could be wrong however

    Havnt seen any in galway city but there arent many here generally. Seems like a niche topic for a niche area in dublin aka a pet topic for joe. I hope he give a detailed description of where the billboard is in relation to other streets in Dublin. Without that valuable input as someone now based outside Dublin i just cant grasp what's going on, it's really makes the story matter to me.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    The answer to Twink's problem was on sale in Aldi today; deep canvasses that don't need frames. Bought some.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,239 ✭✭✭✭Losty Dublin


    The answer to Twink's problem was on sale in Aldi today; deep canvasses that don't need frames. Bought some.

    She'll send Rose Violet down to get some chop chop.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,028 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    The answer to Twink's problem was on sale in Aldi today; deep canvasses that don't need frames. Bought some.

    Did the gallery owner not offer to "sort her out"?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,239 ✭✭✭✭Losty Dublin


    Served 20 years in Arbour Hill?

    Was he a priest?

    He sure was.

    Before every meal he used to do Grace. That's why he was in Arbour Hill for 20 years.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,792 ✭✭✭ShamNNspace


    Very quiet in the msm about the US planes filled with troops not bothering their holes with local quarantine procedures and Irish officials turning a blind eye


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Jaysus 3 brothers dead in murder-suicide at Mitchelstown. North Cork getting to be a dangerous place for in-house disputes.


  • Posts: 11,614 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


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