Toddler stabbed to death in Dublin

Love2love · 10-07-2017 9:40pm #1

http://www.thejournal.ie/toddler-crumlin-violent-3489568-Jul2017/

Poor kid

myshirt · 10-07-2017 9:44pm

Christ... so horrible. A young baby really, and meeting such a violent end.

BillyBobBS · 10-07-2017 9:44pm

R.I.P

Humanity is a sewer at times.

Corruptedmorals · 10-07-2017 9:46pm

Christ what a brutal end for a baby...hard to contemplate. I do hope the child was not known to social workers as at risk etc. and not enough done.

Muir · 10-07-2017 9:49pm

Awful, poor child. Happened very close to where I live.

ZuM16 · 10-07-2017 9:49pm

What can you say at news like this, poor kid, life gone before it had begun

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Love2love · 10-07-2017 9:51pm

When I read it first, I thought it must be in the US...

Not that it wouldn't be as tragic but its rare to see something like this on our shores. Such a horrible thing to read

Noveight · 10-07-2017 9:52pm

The poor little tot, kids at the toddler age are the cutest bundles of fun

Mam of 4 · 10-07-2017 10:00pm

Am at a loss for words really , an innocent little child

R.I.P.

The_Valeyard · 10-07-2017 10:02pm

What the f*ck is wrong with people

Horrendous news!

That poor Kid.

A parents worst nightmare.

RIP

Beta Ray Bill · 10-07-2017 10:04pm

I'm shocked

How could someone do that to a 3 year kid?

Not Human.

Fingers crossed who did it gets what's coming to them.

Low life scumbag f**king waster c**t prick!

Comhrá · 10-07-2017 10:07pm

A strong possibility the person responsible for the infant's death was mentally unwell? Just my first thought on this awful happening

Omackeral · 10-07-2017 10:09pm

I can see it going one of two ways.

If the perp was a male he'll be pilloried and called evil and subhuman. If it was a female, it'll be mental illness that's at fault.

RIP to the little boy. Horrifying news, so fcuking sad.

GLaDOS · 10-07-2017 10:13pm

Im not sure I want to know the details.

Poor kid.

AllForIt · 10-07-2017 10:18pm

Comhra wrote: »

A strong possibility the person responsible for the infant's death was mentally unwell? Just my first thought on this awful happening

More than likely. The druggy single mother with the bad boyfriend is a scenario one hears far to often. Was watching an interview just yesterday with Judge Judy at the Oxford Union. She used to work in the family courts before she went on to do TV and it's sad that she states that her judgements only made a difference perhaps 10% of the time. Not enough social workers to go around and I'm sure it's the same here.

freshpopcorn · 10-07-2017 10:25pm

According to the news on be3 both the child and the women were foreign nationals and she worked in a Dublin hospital!

KERSPLAT! · 10-07-2017 10:35pm

Not a hope am I reading that. Poor little boy.

whoopsadoodles · 10-07-2017 10:54pm

AllForIt wrote: »

More than likely. The druggy single mother with the bad boyfriend is a scenario one hears far to often.

They are Iranian, so unlikely.

RIP. Bad enough a child loses his life, but in such circumstances is just horrific.

Poor wee mite

NIMAN · 10-07-2017 11:10pm

I wouldn't normally say the death penalty works, but whoever did this doesn't deserve to live.

spoonerhead · 10-07-2017 11:15pm

So sad, so close to where I live. There is this strange feeling in the area tonight, it's like nature and time has stoped. I'm shaken

AnneFrank · 10-07-2017 11:16pm

Heartbreaking, I hope the mother is given all help possible,for what good it will do. Not really a time to be speculating

Atlantic Dawn · 10-07-2017 11:18pm

Gardaí not looking for anyone in relation to it makes it even more tragic, poor kid.

Omackeral · 10-07-2017 11:19pm

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Gardaí not looking for anyone in relation to it makes it even more tragic, poor kid.

What does that mean? They have someone?

goose2005 · 10-07-2017 11:20pm

whoopsadoodles wrote: »

They are Iranian, so unlikely.

Opiate and painkiller abuse is very common in Iran

Klonker · 10-07-2017 11:23pm

Omackeral wrote: »

I can see it going one of two ways.

If the perp was a male he'll be pilloried and called evil and subhuman. If it was a female, it'll be mental illness that's at fault.

RIP to the little boy. Horrifying news, so fcuking sad.

Yeah, let's make this a gender thing :rolleyes: have some cop on for **** sake.

10-07-2017 11:25pm

Omackeral wrote: »

What does that mean? They have someone?

The mother presumably.

Omackeral · 10-07-2017 11:28pm

Klonker wrote: »

Yeah, let's make this a gender thing :rolleyes: have some cop on for **** sake.

Well thirteen people so far seem to agree so far going by thanks of the post. In my opinion, in cases of infanticide fathers get a much worse rap from society than mothers do. If a mum does it she must have been mentally ill as it's beyond the pale for a mother to do that. Whereas with fathers it can go either way.

Birneybau · 10-07-2017 11:28pm

Omackeral wrote: »

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Gardaí not looking for anyone in relation to it makes it even more tragic, poor kid.

What does that mean? They have someone?

It's usually the other person in the house

sassyj · 10-07-2017 11:31pm

Omackeral wrote: »

Well thirteen people so far seem to agree so far going by thanks of the post. In my opinion, in cases of infanticide fathers get a much worse rap from society than mothers do. If a mum does it she must have been mentally ill as it's beyond the pale for a mother to do that. Whereas with fathers it can go either way.

What a victory for you, well done.

Omackeral · 10-07-2017 11:31pm

Omackeral wrote: »

What does that mean? They have someone?

Augeo wrote: »

The mother presumably.

Birneybau wrote: »

It's usually the other person in the house

I read that the mum had injuries too. Maybe self inflicted.

osarusan · 10-07-2017 11:34pm

Klonker wrote: »

Yeah, let's make this a gender thing :rolleyes: have some cop on for **** sake.

No opportunity can be wasted to shoehorn that victimhood angle in.

F**king sad when there is a story like this, and the first thought is to get the gender stuff in.

Omackeral · 10-07-2017 11:34pm

sassyj wrote: »

What a victory for you, well done.

Great input. Someone called out my point, I showed that it had some support. It's a discussion forum, either make a point or don't.

Birneybau · 10-07-2017 11:38pm

Can we just all agree it's a fcuking tragedy and we'll leave it at that. Gender, nationality, so the fcuk what. A poor 3 year old died violently.

Colser · 10-07-2017 11:39pm

I haven't read the link and this will probably come across all wrong but sometimes when I hear something horrific has happened to a child I wonder what has been happening to them up to this point and the type of short little life they've actually endured.I'm far from a mother earth type but anyone who can inflict pain and suffering on a defenceless child be they man or woman should be treated in a very similar fashion imo.

sassyj · 10-07-2017 11:41pm

Omackeral wrote: »

Great input. Someone called out my point, I showed that it had some support. It's a discussion forum, either make a point or don't.

I was making a point, evidently one you entirely missed.

AnneFrank · 10-07-2017 11:44pm

This maybe a discussion forum, but I do not believe this topic should be discussed at this time, frankly I find it disgusting, offer condolences yes, but pinning the blame on mentally ill, foreign nationals or genders for thanks Ala omackeral is pathetic.

Omackeral · 10-07-2017 11:46pm

sassyj wrote: »

I was making a point, evidently one you entirely missed.

I must have. Give it to me one more time there.

jimmycrackcorm · 10-07-2017 11:48pm

A defenceless 3 year old. Mind numbing.

Vic_08 · 10-07-2017 11:48pm

Omackeral wrote: »

I must have. Give it to me one more time there.

So now this thread is about you, yeah?

Omackeral · 10-07-2017 11:49pm

AnneFrank wrote: »

This maybe a discussion forum, but I do not believe this topic should be discussed at this time, frankly I find it disgusting, offer condolences yes, but pinning the blame on mentally ill, foreign nationals or genders for thanks Ala omackeral is pathetic.

How am I doing it for thanks though? I merely put forward an opinion and some people agreed with the sentiment. I subsequently referenced their agreement as validation for my point. What's pathetic about that exactly may I ask?

Omackeral · 10-07-2017 11:51pm

Vic_08 wrote: »

So now this thread is about you, yeah?

Apparently so. Poster said they made a point to me but I didn't see it. Asked them to give me it again. Have you a point to make on the topic at hand at all yourself?

10-07-2017 11:59pm

AnneFrank wrote: »

This maybe a discussion forum, but I do not believe this topic should be discussed at this time, frankly I find it disgusting, offer condolences yes, but pinning the blame on mentally ill, foreign nationals or genders for thanks Ala omackeral is pathetic.

It's a discussion board, not a condolences board (what a strange concept anyway, e-condolences sent off into the ether, what possible purpose to that?)

January · 11-07-2017 12:03am

Omackeral wrote: »

I can see it going one of two ways.

If the perp was a male he'll be pilloried and called evil and subhuman. If it was a female, it'll be mental illness that's at fault.

RIP to the little boy. Horrifying news, so fcuking sad.

Alan Hawe was painted as mentally ill when he was nothing of the sort so play the other one.

ED E · 11-07-2017 12:05am

Thanks mods for the quick work there.

Omackeral · 11-07-2017 12:07am

January wrote: »

Alan Hawe was painted as mentally ill when he was nothing of the sort so play the other one.

Anyone I spoke to about the Hawe case absolutely hammered him. He was called a coward, a brute, an abuser and rightly so. There was uproar from the majority of people on here too IIRC. It was only the local clergy and a couple of parish gombeens who tried to paint him in a positive light and they were called out on it by every single person I conversed with on the matter.

eviltwin · 11-07-2017 12:07am

Omackeral wrote: »

How am I doing it for thanks though? I merely put forward an opinion and some people agreed with the sentiment. I subsequently referenced their agreement as validation for my point. What's pathetic about that exactly may I ask?

You are using the death of a child to score points.

January · 11-07-2017 12:09am

Omackeral wrote: »

Anyone I spoke to about the Hawe case absolutely hammered him and rightly so. There was uproar from the majority of people on here too IIRC. It was only the local clergy and a couple of parish gombeens who tried to paint him in a positive light and they were called out on it by every single person I conversed with on the matter.

Loads of people here at the time and recently again when news of his grave being exhumed came about defended him and claimed only someone who was mentally ill could do such a thing. Fact is the majority of women who do kill their children are mentally ill. Postpartum psychosis is a very real illness that can go untreated for years.

major bill · 11-07-2017 12:10am

Poor lil baby

Armchair Andy · 11-07-2017 12:13am

major bill wrote:

Poor lil baby

Poor kid. Innocent harmless little kid. Hell existed right there for that mite.

Omackeral · 11-07-2017 12:13am

eviltwin wrote: »

You are using the death of a child to score points.

Get a grip. How exactly am I scoring points? Explain that to me. Disgusting accusation.

11-07-2017 12:18am

Surely, for all we know,the kid might have been messing with the knife, cut his mother and inflicted fatal injuries on himself.

I don't mean that as a proposition, merely to say let's not rush to judge at all yet. At the moment, it's a horrific tragedy, let's hold off on the comments until more comes to light.

Toddler stabbed to death in Dublin

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