Mercedes

2012paddy2012 · 16-03-2019 8:43pm #1

I am thinking of changing a dacia duster 132 , for a Mercedes. I'm approaching retirement and always promised myself a bit of comfort when the time came.
Not in a panic , but I suppose ill get 6 k and put 13 or 14 with it , was in one recently tho an 03 and automatic , it was very comfortable and nicely laid out inside , I just wondered what type would be best in that price bracket.
No problem with automatic but like to keep tax low , and are they expensive , maintenance wise?
Thks
Paddy

w211 · 16-03-2019 9:05pm

Yes you can buy the Mercedes but do not buy that without serious scanning by the star diagnostics. You will be surpised how much that technology can see. The regular obd2 scanners are toys compared by star diagnostics.

2012paddy2012 · 16-03-2019 9:15pm

w211 wrote: »

Yes you can buy the Mercedes but do not buy that without serious scanning by the star diagnostics. You will be surpised how much that technology can see. The regular obd2 scanners are toys compared by star diagnostics.

Not sure what that means !!! But it's exactly the type Im ooking for , cheers.

w211 · 16-03-2019 11:06pm

This is specific dealer level scanner what can communicate by all mercedes microcontrollers. It can save for you very expensive repair bills. If you are on my neighborhood, I can offer the free readings.

2012paddy2012 · 16-03-2019 11:08pm

w211 wrote: »

This is specific dealer level scanner what can communicate by all mercedes microcontrollers. It can save for you very expensive repair bills. If you are on my neighborhood, I can offer the free readings.

Extremely interesting, thks

Gael23 · 16-03-2019 11:11pm

How about BMW? You might get a bit more for your money.
I would never go back in years. Particularly approaching retirement and reduced income. You want to have a newish car.

oceanman · 16-03-2019 11:35pm

just as a side note, how did you find the duster? thinking of getting one myself.
sorry if im hijacking.

Miike · 17-03-2019 12:42am

oceanman wrote: »

just as a side note, how did you find the duster? thinking of getting one myself.
sorry if im hijacking.

Have you drove one? I'd suggest doing that first and foremost. It's not a nice drive at all imho and I'm not driving a rolls royce either

elperello · 17-03-2019 12:51am

2012paddy2012 wrote: »

I am thinking of changing a dacia duster 132 , for a Mercedes. I'm approaching retirement and always promised myself a bit of comfort when the time came.
Not in a panic , but I suppose ill get 6 k and put 13 or 14 with it , was in one recently tho an 03 and automatic , it was very comfortable and nicely laid out inside , I just wondered what type would be best in that price bracket.
No problem with automatic but like to keep tax low , and are they expensive , maintenance wise?
Thks
Paddy

If you are looking to get into a second hand Merc to keep for a while you will need to get a good independent garage that is familiar with them.
Would you consider keeping the Dacia as a daily and getting an older Merc on vintage tax/insurance as a hobby/weekend car?

oceanman · 17-03-2019 12:53am

Miike wrote: »

Have you drove one? I'd suggest doing that first and foremost. It's not a nice drive at all imho and I'm not driving a rolls royce either

no, haven't drove as yet.

tuxy · 17-03-2019 12:53am

biko · 17-03-2019 9:47am

oceanman wrote: »

just as a side note, how did you find the duster? thinking of getting one myself.
sorry if im hijacking.

You are hijacking, please start your own thread.

freddieot · 17-03-2019 9:52am

The problem that Mercedes, Audi and BMW face these days is that the herd is catching up - and passing them out. I'd say we are about the same vintage and when I was younger, if you wanted comfort, reliability and the nice extras like 'electric windows, heated s/wheel etc. you needed to spend some bucks and get a premium brand.

Now they are no more reliable (in fact, less reliable) and often far less specified and comfortable for comparable money. With UK import running the way they are at present, residuals are also no better.

Consider this before you spend you hard earned cash. I'm about 3-4 years away from retirement myself. Consider the luxury \ power \ reliability etc. that you can get from Skoda, VW, Kia etc. for the same money as an older, less powerful,, less well specced Merc or BMW.

However, if you just want to get it out of your system ,I fully understand that as I've done it myself, so the very best of luck with whatever you buy.

Idbatterim · 17-03-2019 12:33pm

Go for e class in my opinion. Motor tax on most of them is the morning rates, ie 390 and below ...

2012paddy2012 · 17-03-2019 2:54pm

Gael23 wrote: »

How about BMW? You might get a bit more for your money.
I would never go back in years. Particularly approaching retirement and reduced income. You want to have a newish car.

Thank You , any idea what type id be aiming for in that money area thks

2012paddy2012 · 17-03-2019 2:57pm

oceanman wrote: »

just as a side note, how did you find the duster? thinking of getting one myself.
sorry if im hijacking.

brilliant

Idbatterim · 17-03-2019 3:11pm

Just parked beside up a 171 c class. Looks like a noddy toy car. Get an e class at least. You want proper comfort get an s

ofcork · 17-03-2019 3:54pm

The e class is the best looking car in their range imo.

Ashleigh1986 · 17-03-2019 4:12pm

Bought a 2012 e250 in June 2017 from the uk .
Saw one in Limerick ... Exact same model .
Limerick dealer was looking for €25000.
Was able to import from the uk for a total price of €18000.
That included purchase price / Vrt ( €4000) / €500 for company to import it.
It's the first Mercedes I've owned.
It drives the same today as when I got it .
I do 50 to 60000 km a year in it for work .
A fabulous car !!!!

2012paddy2012 · 19-03-2019 9:15am

Ashleigh1986 wrote: »

Bought a 2012 e250 in June 2017 from the uk .
Saw one in Limerick ... Exact same model .
Limerick dealer was looking for €25000.
Was able to import from the uk for a total price of €18000.
That included purchase price / Vrt ( €4000) / €500 for company to import it.
It's the first Mercedes I've owned.
It drives the same today as when I got it .
I do 50 to 60000 km a year in it for work .
A fabulous car !!!!

oh wow sounds ideal ,indeed , would you recommend the buyer and could you tell me who they are , a call might be no harm.thks Paddy

shamrockvilla · 19-03-2019 9:49am

Just had a quick check on auto trader UK and saw a 2016 E220 with 60000 miles,looks like a very good spec for 13995 pounds. The vrt for this particular car is just over 4,000 euros using the revenue.ie calculator.

Seve OB · 19-03-2019 10:02am

w211 wrote: »

Yes you can buy the Mercedes but do not buy that without serious scanning by the star diagnostics. You will be surpised how much that technology can see. The regular obd2 scanners are toys compared by star diagnostics.

Very apt username for this thread.

W211 owner here. Used to change my car every 18months or so. Bought a year old car back in 2010.still have it..... Says it'll really

go for it OP, you won't regret

Stallingrad · 19-03-2019 10:48am

2012paddy2012 wrote: »

Thank You , any idea what type id be aiming for in that money area thks

You want a peaceful retirement don't you? Forget about BMW, they will drain your pension fund.

A facelift e-class from 2013 on is a very nice thing.

Fol20 · 19-03-2019 10:59am

freddieot wrote: »

The problem that Mercedes, Audi and BMW face these days is that the herd is catching up - and passing them out. I'd say we are about the same vintage and when I was younger, if you wanted comfort, reliability and the nice extras like 'electric windows, heated s/wheel etc. you needed to spend some bucks and get a premium brand.

Now they are no more reliable (in fact, less reliable) and often far less specified and comfortable for comparable money. With UK import running the way they are at present, residuals are also no better.

Consider this before you spend you hard earned cash. I'm about 3-4 years away from retirement myself. Consider the luxury \ power \ reliability etc. that you can get from Skoda, VW, Kia etc. for the same money as an older, less powerful,, less well specced Merc or BMW.

However, if you just want to get it out of your system ,I fully understand that as I've done it myself, so the very best of luck with whatever you buy.

I have to say i disagree with the above. I own a bmw and have driven audi also and they are more enjoyable to drive around in. I cant really tell the difference from a pure driving point of view but just sitting into it and moving around vs the other cars. There is no comparison. If price wasnt an issue, would you really pick skida,vw or kia. I cant speak for mercs but the info-tainment system is much better compared to what i have experienced in other cars. The car feels more luxurious compared to those brands. I have heard they are less reliable and they are much more expensive to repair however you only live once and money is there to be enjoyed

Stallingrad · 19-03-2019 11:07am

Fol20 wrote: »

I own a bmw and have driven audi also and they are more enjoyable to drive around in. I cant really tell the difference from a pure driving point of view but just sitting into it and moving around vs the other cars. There is no comparison. If price wasnt an issue, would you really pick skida,vw or kia.

Just moved from a 2014 F10 5 series to a 2015 Superb 1.4Tsi ACT. The Skoda is not as luxurious inside for sure, but I prefer it in every other way to the BMW. More spacious, refined (petrol V diesel), more comfortable, better ride, better infotainment, cheaper to run, etc. The BMW also needed over €4000 worth of warranty work, this on a 4 year old car.

I'm a lifelong BMW fan but the F10 in N47 form must be one of the most over hyped cars ever. It was real let down.

Fol20 · 19-03-2019 3:49pm

Stallingrad wrote: »

Just moved from a 2014 F10 5 series to a 2015 Superb 1.4Tsi ACT. The Skoda is not as luxurious inside for sure, but I prefer it in every other way to the BMW. More spacious, refined (petrol V diesel), more comfortable, better ride, better infotainment, cheaper to run, etc. The BMW also needed over €4000 worth of warranty work, this on a 4 year old car.

I'm a lifelong BMW fan but the F10 in N47 form must be one of the most over hyped cars ever. It was real let down.

I have driven the newer f30 and f36 so not sure about the f10's as im not looking for larger cars. I think the info-tainment for audi and bmw are best in business. In term of space ,it depends what your looking for. I like my current car. I wouldnt call it spacious by any means but thats not what im look for in my current model. Repair costs will be at least 2-3+ more than other cars. Have your eyes wide open when buying the car so there are no surprises.

elperello · 19-03-2019 4:09pm

Seve OB wrote: »

Very apt username for this thread.

W211 owner here. Used to change my car every 18months or so. Bought a year old cat back in 2010.still have it..... Says it'll really go for it OP, you won't regret

What model of Jag did you buy?

Gael23 · 19-03-2019 9:20pm

2012paddy2012 wrote: »

Thank You , any idea what type id be aiming for in that money area thks

A quick online search suggests you could get a 2015 or at a push a 2016 3 series. And for similar monyt back a year or two to 2014 or stretching it to 2015.

Ashleigh1986 · 29-03-2019 8:45pm

2012paddy2012 wrote: »

oh wow sounds ideal ,indeed , would you recommend the buyer and could you tell me who they are , a call might be no harm.thks Paddy

Hi paddy , sorry for delay getting back to you .
Walmersley trade sales in bury in Manchester was name of garage .
Adam was the salesman I was dealing with .
I'm a TAXIDRIVER in galway .
Have the car just about 2 years .
Have put over 100, 000 km in 2 years .
Just tyres / service parts .
Car drives exactly the same today as when I first got it .
Won't be buying anything other than Mercedes from now on .
Hope this helps

Wailin · 29-03-2019 10:07pm

Stallingrad wrote: »

Just moved from a 2014 F10 5 series to a 2015 Superb 1.4Tsi ACT. The Skoda is not as luxurious inside for sure, but I prefer it in every other way to the BMW. More spacious, refined (petrol V diesel), more comfortable, better ride, better infotainment, cheaper to run, etc. The BMW also needed over €4000 worth of warranty work, this on a 4 year old car.

I'm a lifelong BMW fan but the F10 in N47 form must be one of the most over hyped cars ever. It was real let down.

Yes, a 518d would be a let down for most car fans lets be honest. Its the bottom of the range in the 5 series. You bought a lemon and you've done nothing but slated BMW brand over it since.

unkel · 29-03-2019 10:11pm

Wailin wrote: »

Yes, a 518d would be a let down for most car fans lets be honest. Its the bottom of the range in the 5 series. You bought a lemon and you've done nothing but slated BMW brand over it since.

He's right though, isn't he? 4 cylinder diesel engines are dire, even the least unrefined ones (as that N47 from BMW)

I honestly have no idea why they are so popular in Ireland (apart from the chape tax). And I'm not even going to mention timing chains and EGR fires.

I'm a long time BMW fan myself, but I'll easily admit I'd prefer to own a Superb 1.4tsi petrol...

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