Greatest heel of all time

BDI · 27-10-2019 2:35pm #1

This was discussed on another thread and seemed to get heated very quick.
I vote Chris Jericho. He genuinely loved playing the asshole you could see it in him. One of the magical baddies that you actually end up rooting for. He didn’t need a Schtick like dressing as an Arab or German or a tax collector.
His wit was second to none, the lionsault, the walls of Jericho the Jerrichoholics, the talkshows in the ring that would descend into chaos,

Roaring ASK HIM at the ref when he had a sub on a rival.
Being able
To be at the top for so many years and all this he was actually a fairly small guy when it comes to wrestling heels.

I know it’s subjective but who was the best heel you remember. And lads, try not get too emotional.

The theme tune. Break the walls down.

Chuck Noland · 27-10-2019 2:38pm

Are ya talking about a real heel who was hated or cool heels everyone loved!

When Rocky Miavia first turned and went by The Rock I HATED him

BDI · 27-10-2019 2:39pm

Chuck Noland wrote: »

Are ya talking about a real heel who was hated or cool heels everyone loved!

When Rocky Miavia first turned and went by The Rock I HATED him

I suppose it’s be anybody who’s job it was to antagonize the hero.

grames_bond · 27-10-2019 3:29pm

Roddy Piper! He was the KING of Heels!

rizzla · 27-10-2019 3:45pm

Vickie Guerrero, all she had to say was 2 words.

SureYWouldntYa · 27-10-2019 3:49pm

Edge from 2006 to 2008 is the biggest bastard that ever was

IvySlayer · 27-10-2019 3:53pm

Vince has the be up there. Intentional or not.

RocketRaccoon · 27-10-2019 3:55pm

HHH simply has to be up there in this discussion

supremenovice · 27-10-2019 3:58pm

Kurt Angle for me. Legit athlete and heat magnet from day 1 at Survivor Series '99.
Honuorable mention to Mr Perfect.

BDI · 27-10-2019 4:00pm

RocketRaccoon wrote: »

HHH simply has to be up there in this discussion

As good as he was I just don’t think he had the wit Jerricho had. Jerricho had everything triple H, Vicky Guerrero and Santino Marella had.

BDI · 27-10-2019 4:37pm

Good call on Kurt Angle in his prime, the faces he used to pull when he didn’t get his own way. Making me chuckle now thinking about it.

The shouting with each German suplex.

The crowd chanting you suck along to his theme tune.

fermanagh_man · 27-10-2019 4:41pm

Rowdy Piper set the benchmark for future heels

ERG89 · 27-10-2019 4:55pm

They never did it for long enough but heel in America Bret was great. Dickhead Hbk from that era too was very good. Mr. Perfect too, so good as a heel I never liked him as a face.
Rock like Hogan was an excellent heel & from being fantastic babyface knew how to work the crowd.

HHH for me his run pre quad was good, post quad it was like he was overcompensating. His run with Evolution was legit unbearable. Steiner, Rvd, Booker, Kane, Goldberg & Nash. Were all for different reasons trash. Hbk got good matches out of him & when Benoit was added to the mix but I think I'd have good matches with those two.

I never seen enough of Flair in his prime to put his name there. But historically he's always mentioned.

Kolido · 27-10-2019 4:56pm

Some great mentions so far. Bret Harts '97 heel run I thought was great.

LibSuperstar · 27-10-2019 6:51pm

Was gonna say Buddy Rogers but since it was stipulated who I saw I'll go w/ Million Dollar Man Ted DiBiase.

Kolido wrote:

Some great mentions so far. Bret Harts '97 heel run I thought was great.

Involved some of his best promo work.

Beechwoodspark · 27-10-2019 6:51pm

Roddy P or ted dibiase

Thread closed

montyrebel · 27-10-2019 8:12pm

has to be Jake the Snake for me

Pentecost · 27-10-2019 8:34pm

King Corbin. Close thread.

Beechwoodspark · 27-10-2019 8:40pm

Flair brought the whole heel game to another level

D.Q · 31-10-2019 10:54pm

JBL during the smackdown title run in with a shout.

No redeeming qualities, not cool, not a flashy worker just a ****ing bastard.

Regal was an incredible heel too, but so damn entertaining it was almost tongue in cheek.

The Nal · 01-11-2019 5:43pm

Hollywood Hogan

You fans can stick it brother

SlickRic · 01-11-2019 6:50pm

it's Vince.

perfect time. perfect person. perfectly played. with the perfect protagonist in Austin.

and they made a fúckload of money.

also Vince, unlike Stephanie, and often unlike Hunter, had no ego when it came to his on-screen character. he'd put himself in positions to be ridiculed. he'd lose when the time was right. you knew that if he and his goons one-upped your hero, then the hero would get his revenge soon, and so you wanted to see just how much of a prick he could be before he got his ass kicked.

the perfect heel.

bot43 · 01-11-2019 8:43pm

John Cena. Legit heat every time he showed his face. In an age of the cool heel his OTT good guy schtick was enough to make people legit hate him.

The fact he created division helped to with kids and dames liking him.

But the real answer is Ric Flair.

Itssoeasy · 01-11-2019 9:55pm

Obviously ric flair is his prime was an untouchable heel. Tully Blanchard form what I'd seen and what I've watched since was an easily dislikeable heel. Arn Anderson was kind of a different heel but kind of like Jake Roberts.

None of the current generation as good as some are like Ciampa and others on the mic will never be considered as good as the ric flairs of the world.

SlickRic · 01-11-2019 11:07pm

Tully was a better heel than Ric.

Ric was the star, but Tully was proper hated.

Itssoeasy · 02-11-2019 12:34am

SlickRic wrote: »

Tully was a better heel than Ric.

Ric was the star, but Tully was proper hated.

Tully from what I’ve watched and heard was easy to dislike.

JP Liz V1 · 03-11-2019 4:31pm

Heenan, the manager

rizzla · 03-11-2019 8:59pm

MJF seems to be on his way.

supremenovice · 05-11-2019 11:44pm

I want to give a shout to Mankind too, when he debuted around 1996. He was pushed as a legit threat to the Undertaker and beat him in a Boiler Room brawl (I think Bearer turned on Taker). He ultimately turned lovable face but that debut year, he seemed indestructible and scary as feck.

Lewis_Benson · 09-11-2019 11:36am

BDI wrote: »

This was discussed on another thread and seemed to get heated very quick.
I vote Chris Jericho. He genuinely loved playing the asshole you could see it in him. One of the magical baddies that you actually end up rooting for. He didn’t need a Schtick like dressing as an Arab or German or a tax collector.
His wit was second to none, the lionsault, the walls of Jericho the Jerrichoholics, the talkshows in the ring that would descend into chaos,

Roaring ASK HIM at the ref when he had a sub on a rival.
Being able
To be at the top for so many years and all this he was actually a fairly small guy when it comes to wrestling heels.

I know it’s subjective but who was the best heel you remember. And lads, try not get too emotional.

The theme tune. Break the walls down.

I much preferred him in WCW, he played a great heel, and his music was cool.

Lewis_Benson · 09-11-2019 11:37am

Ric Flair for me,
He photo shopped himself into macho man and liz's photos ffs

B.A._Baracus · 11-11-2019 9:27am

Lewis_Benson wrote: »

Ric Flair for me,
He photo shopped himself into macho man and liz's photos ffs

What's that? :pac:

The Nal · 11-11-2019 10:28am

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

What's that? :pac:

OneEightSeven · 12-11-2019 4:30pm

I haven't watched any of the NWA stuff when Ric Flair was in his heyday, so I'll go with Vince. The fans loved seeing him get beat up and called him an ásshole almost every night for roughly 4 years.

raven136 · 12-11-2019 8:51pm

In no order because its too hard to single just one

NWO Hogan-Best heel turn ever
Million Dollar Man
Flair
Piper
Vince
Rick Rude
Eddie
Jericho
Edge
Horsemen
Bobby Heenan

DrumSteve · 13-11-2019 8:54am

Always likes Austins heel run.

Jurgen The German · 13-11-2019 2:36pm

Rovert.

/thread

Sgt Hartman · 14-11-2019 6:52pm

Jake Roberts for me, especially during his 91-92 heel run. He just came across as totally evil, a real human snake.

Strumms · 14-11-2019 7:10pm

Mankind. Just weird and not panto bad guy weird, completely psycho weird in fact. Everything about him, from his look, crazy behavior, that limp he had going on.. the mandible claw being a fûck off weird, invasive, abomination of an assault not so much a wrestling move... he used to really freak me out.

Itssoeasy · 14-11-2019 7:13pm

Maybe not the best but nick bockwinkel could cut a hell of a heel promo and wasn't yelling like flair but wasn't the ice cold heel that Jake the snake was.

LibSuperstar · 15-11-2019 7:15am

Itssoeasy wrote:

Maybe not the best but nick bockwinkel could cut a hell of a heel promo and wasn't yelling like flair but wasn't the ice cold heel that Jake the snake was.

He was quite eloquent and classy.

Greatest heel of all time

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