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DCM 2019 - Mentored Novices Thread

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,590 ✭✭✭py


    Have you raced before? If so what are your PBs? (Date and distance please!)
    5Km time of 22:40 in Spring 2019 at a Parkrun and 10Km at Dublin Night Run a few weeks back of 50:50.


    Do you still need to take walk breaks in your training? (No problem if you do)
    No, have become quite good at reading what my body is telling me in relation to pace at the distances I have run.


    How much training do you currently do ? Distances, how many days a week, cross training - whatever you think is relevant to your current fitness level.
    Parkrun on a Saturday morning and usually try get another 5-10Km mid week at lunch time.
    Currently in training for a cycling event in early June so once that is done and dusted I'm hoping to get up to the required 4 days per week of running.
    I commute 5 days a week on bicycle which results in 80-90Km on the bike which is mostly low intensity.
    Have done a good few long distance cycling events (100-200Km) and at this stage have nailed my nutrition for those, hoping that side of things transfers over to running.


    What do you want to achieve? Dream finishing time and realistic finishing time? Or just complete it in no specified time?
    4 hours is the dream and hopefully realistic time too but failing that, finishing would be an amazing achievement as I'm only running about 6 months.


    How many days a week can you train? And what plan do you intend to follow?
    4 days should be quite manageable as I'll get the midweek runs done during lunch time in work. The LSR at the weekend is where I'll need to get buy in from the OH/Kids. Planning on doing the Hal Higdon training plan.


    What is your biggest worry/fear/doubt (if you have any!) in signing up?
    At 195cm and 100Kg, getting my body around the course it what scares me the most. I'm also concerned that my body will breakdown during the training and result in me going in to the event being under prepared. Dropping 10Kg prior to the event would help an enormous amount.


    Why are you running this marathon?
    For the challenge.


  • Registered Users Posts: 735 ✭✭✭Treviso


    Finally the thread has started!! I've been reading through last years thread and also follow a lot of training logs in here so it made sense for me to join this group.

    I started running last October after deciding that playing soccer was causing me too many injuries - had to figure out a new way to keep myself fit. My wife is a great runner so I reluctantly started too.

    But I'm really enjoying it I have to say, especially when you notice the big improvements over time. I'm currently following a P&D 30 mile plan for the Cork Half Marathon

    Have you raced before? If so what are your PBs? (Date and distance please!) 5k - 23 mins parkrun early January (hope to smash that this Sunday in the Bweeng 5k)
    10 mile - 74.30mins (Mallow in March)
    Latest race was The Great Railway 25k run which I did i in 2hrs5min (avg 8.02)
    Hoping/Plan to do the Cork half in 1.40

    How much training do you currently do ?
    Im up to 30 miles per week, 4 days a week

    What do you want to achieve?
    Going to train for a 3.30 marathon - running the 25k @ 8min mile influenced this decision

    How many days a week can you train? And what plan do you intend to follow? Going to increase to 5 days a week running, and use the P&D Advanced 50 mile plan. Looking at the plan, it will be tough but looks enjoyable. I like the progression long runs that I currently do.

    What is your biggest worry/fear/doubt (if you have any!) in signing up?
    Apart from injury, which is everyone's fear, my biggest concern is I will never be happy with the times I run. I will constantly seek to improve and improve those times whilst never enjoying the actually achievement of running them

    Why are you running this marathon?
    I started running to keep fit, I entered the Cork Half Marathon to have something to aim for. I entered the DCM2019 cos it was selling out fast - is that how these things always work out!?

    Looking forward to joining in with this new group and see what we can all achieve together.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,770 ✭✭✭Mr. Guappa


    Hi all completely new to this & hoping to achieve my goal of completing the DCM this year ðŸ˜ðŸ˜

    Have you raced before? If so what are your PBs?
    * I have entered a few races this year most recently the Kildare 5k getting my PB 22:19 & the 10k Nightrun 47:10

    Do you still need to take walk breaks in your training?
    * No walk breaks

    How much training do you currently do ? Distances, how many days a week, cross training - whatever you think is relevant to your current fitness
    * I run between 6 - 8k at lunch 2-3 times a week then a long run at the weekends started at 10k got 17k done this weekend. I weight train twice a week 1 HIIT class & 1 strength & conditioning class

    What do you want to achieve? Dream finishing time and realistic finishing time? Or just complete it in no specified time?
    * My dream is to complete it and i would absolutely love to do it in just over 4hours but only once i get training properly i will be able to judge that

    How many days a week can you train? And what plan do you intend to follow?
    * Not too sure yet which to follow - i plan to train 4 days a week but more if needed- i want to give 100%

    What is your biggest worry/fear/doubt (if you have any!) in signing up?
    * Not completing it is a huge fear & getting an injury would be a worry

    Why are you running this marathon?
    * A few reasons here, never thought i could ever do this so i am thrilled to be doing it. I am turning 41 this year so also it will be a huge personal achievement for me proving to myself i can do it. And most importantly i am doing it for a very close friend who recently lost a sister & another one a few years ago due to a horrible illness, an illness she is fighting herself & had a kidney removed due to tumors. She has asked me to run it for the Irish kidney Association which is the least i can do!

    Hi Laineyfrecks, and welcome to the thread!

    Those are some very good 5k and 10k times, and that 4 hour aim is definitely not out of reach, but you are 100% correct not to worry too much about that for now.

    You will be well able for the Boards plan. Getting injured is part and parcel of running, but the sensible training in the plans here will ensure that you are minimizing the risk of injury.

    Best wishes to your friend, and you've very admirable reasons for doing this.
    Great to have you onboard!


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,770 ✭✭✭Mr. Guappa


    Thanks to Mr. Guappa, Huzzah! and ReeReeG and probably many others that will lend their support over the coming months. I've no doubt that a huge amount of effort goes into it.

    Have you raced before? If so what are your PBs? (Date and distance please!)

    1 mile : 5:58 - 2019-04-24
    5k: 19:46 - 2019-05-01
    10k: 43:19 - 2019-04-14
    HM: 1:39:33 - 2018-09-23

    Do you still need to take walk breaks in your training? (No problem if you do)

    Nope

    How much training do you currently do ? Distances, how many days a week, cross training - whatever you think is relevant to your current fitness level.

    I usually run 5 days a week, totaling 30-40 miles. Club session on Tuesdays, but have missed that the last while due to life. Long run on Sundays, usually 8-10 miles.

    Cycle a similar distance on commute (5-6 miles, 5 days a week). Sometimes throw in longer cycle on Mondays or Fridays, as they're usually my non-running days.

    What do you want to achieve? Dream finishing time and realistic finishing time? Or just complete it in no specified time?

    Dream time: 3:15/20, realistic: 3:30

    How many days a week can you train? And what plan do you intend to follow?

    I've not 100% decided on plan but looking at P&D 55 mile plan. It'll need some small changes to fit the race series in, but hopefully no major changes.

    What is your biggest worry/fear/doubt (if you have any!) in signing up?

    1. Injury
    2. Not finishing

    Why are you running this marathon?

    A made me do it :P

    Eh, I mean, I wanted to challenge myself. Have worked my way from a couch to 5k, through to half marathon (3 so far) and looking to take the next step now.

    Here's a log I made earlier: https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057920744

    Welcome to the novices thread mister paul! I'm looking forward to following your training as we go along, and hopefully we'll be able to offer you some useful advice too! If nothing else, I can wholeheartedly endorse the positive vibes that come from a group of people training towards a common goal. And another log for me to follow... the list is ever-growing!


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,770 ✭✭✭Mr. Guappa


    Happy to see this thread pop up. I’m not entirely a novice, I ran DCM in 2014. I wish I’d had this thread back then because I know now I was undertrained and running too fast, too often. I had a long sabbatical, mainly due to pain in my forefoot, eventually diagnosed as psoriatic arthritis in two metatarsal heads. That’s largely under control now and I feel like I have unfinished business with the marathon.

    I’ve had a log here: https://touch.boards.ie/thread/2057942329/1 for a few months now and that goes into a bit more historical detail! Sub 4hrs and 39 seconds is the goal. Hoping to be in shape to hit something in the 3.50 to 3.55 range.

    Running 5-6 days a week. Ran the Wicklow half back in March in 1.54.49. Running Terenure 5 mile on Sunday and hoping for 39ish.

    Not 100% on marathon plan yet. Running Clontarf half first week in July and I’ll do the race series. Will prob stick with boards plan.

    Thanks to the volunteer mentors. I first found this thread in 2017 and followed with great interest.

    Hello passinginterest, great to see you in here! Looking at your training over the last while you're really well placed to face into marathon training. Best of luck on Sunday!


  • Registered Users Posts: 540 ✭✭✭Limerick91


    Thank you for starting the thread Mr Guppa

    Here are answers!!

    •Have you raced before? If so what are your PBs? (Date and distance please!)
    PB's are a good few years ago so I am not taking them into account.
    Did Limerick Marathon in 2015 4:09 and 2016 4:14.
    Ran the Limerick Half Marathon at the weekend in under 1:57 so that is more of an indication of where I am

    •Do you still need to take walk breaks in your training? (No problem if you do) - No

    •How much training do you currently do ? Distances, how many days a week, cross training - whatever you think is relevant to your current fitness level.
    Yoga once a week
    Swim once a week
    3 runs a week, fast 5k, marathon pace 10K, longer run at the weekends

    •What do you want to achieve? Dream finishing time and realistic finishing time? Or just complete it in no specified time?
    First ambition is to enjoy the race and run all 26.2 miles
    Dream finishing time 3:59:59
    Realistic finishing time a pb of under 4:09

    •How many days a week can you train? And what plan do you intend to follow?
    Will be running 3 times a week

    •What is your biggest worry/fear/doubt (if you have any!) in signing up?
    Getting injured
    My life getting in the way of running or running getting in the way of my life

    •Why are you running this marathon?
    I want to have the experience of running a big city event. The Limerick Marathon while well run for parts is just like a small club race. When struggling at the end of the Limerick Marathon the fast half marathoners pass you by which is soul destroying. In Dublin everyone is in the same both


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,799 ✭✭✭Huzzah!


    skyblue46 wrote: »
    Congrats on your role this year. You'll be in spreadsheet heaven keeping track of usernames, real names, PBs, plans being followed etc. No better woman :D

    Thanks, S. I appreciate it.

    I was very surprised to have been asked; maybe it was my spreadsheet game that tipped the odds in my favour :P


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,250 ✭✭✭coogy


    Helenasca wrote: »
    Being a 2018 DCM Novice was such a daunting thought until I came across this group this time last year. Best support page possible. I really dont think I'd have stuck with it without their support and wisdom.

    Wishing the very best of luck to yer mentors for 2019 you novices couldn't be in safer hands.

    And best of luck to all the 2019 DCM novices. You've got this 💪💪💪



    I would like to echo these sentiments.

    Found myself this time last year about to take on my first marathon and not really knowing where to turn until a friend pointed me in the direction of the Novices thread.

    I can say without a doubt that the mentors and the wider community saw me through what was an incredible few months of training and sound advice that not only got me over the finish line but bagged me a sub-4 too!

    There is no better preparation for DCM 2019 while in the hands of this year's mentors.

    Best of luck to everyone and enjoy the ride!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,761 ✭✭✭ReeReeG


    Bananaleaf wrote: »
    Hi everyone. My first marathon.

    Have you raced before? If so what are your PBs? (Date and distance please!)
    I haven't raced 5k yet, but my best parkrun time this year was 27:59 in January
    10k - 57:01 in February
    Half - 2:10:17 in March

    Do you still need to take walk breaks in your training? (No problem if you do)
    No

    How much training do you currently do ? Distances, how many days a week, cross training - whatever you think is relevant to your current fitness level.
    I am running an average of 31km per week at the moment.
    I am running between 4 and 5 days per week. One LSR and all slow runs but from this week I have returned to the track to do one fast session.
    I am running most of my runs very slow - 10mins per km.
    I also do 3 evenings of Strength and Conditioning, which I will pare back to 2 once I feel the need.
    I try to do one Yoga session at home each week

    What do you want to achieve? Dream finishing time and realistic finishing time? Or just complete it in no specified time?
    I would love 4:40 but I honestly don't know how realistic or unrealistic that time is right now. Having said that, my true aim is to have a positive experience for my first marathon and not for it to break me, mentally or physically.

    How many days a week can you train? And what plan do you intend to follow?
    Between the gym and running I am training 6 days at the moment. I feel I have been able to manage this because the intensity is so low. I am in a very fortunate position where I will be off work from June to September, so am hoping that time won't be as much an issue for me as it would be if the marathon was earlier in the year.
    I don't yet know which plan to choose.

    What is your biggest worry/fear/doubt (if you have any!) in signing up?
    Now that I have talked the talk, can I walk the walk? My biggest fear is failure to make either the start or finish line.

    Why are you running this marathon?
    Because I can. So, why not? (I am very nervous about it though! :p )


    Great to have you join Bananaleaf! You're in an excellent position of being used to running 4 or 5 days a week already and I'm happy to see you keep some of them good and slow :) What plan do you think you will follow?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,761 ✭✭✭ReeReeG


    pd79 wrote: »
    Hi, very much novice here ! Cant believe I've entered tbh

    Have you raced before?
    Running /jogging over 6 years, but not the fastest
    5k 28mins
    10k 57 mins
    I've done lots of 5ks and 10ks and did 2 half marathons last year (2h15)

    Do you still need to take walk breaks in your training? No

    How much training do you currently do ?
    2/3 times a week, did 10k at weekend so will try to increase this over next few weeks ??

    What do you want to achieve? Just to finish in one piece ! Dream would be under 5 hours

    How many days a week can you train? And what plan do you intend to follow? Three days a week ,
    What is your biggest worry/fear/doubt (if you have any!) That wheels will fall off or my head will go !
    And that I've not done enough running this year and have left it too late !

    Why are you running this marathon
    Grew up watch g dad compete , love marathon day , and would regret it if I never completed one, also turning 40 !


    Hi pd79 and welcome to the thread! We'll certainly try help you hit the goal of finishing in one piece :)

    Don't worry about not doing enough running this year so far, you have 7 weeks-ish before the plans even start, so try get into a good routine between then and now (if you're not already). Do you know what plan you will follow?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,761 ✭✭✭ReeReeG


    Mr. Guappa wrote: »
    Hi frash, and welcome to the thread. I've dipped into your log on occasion before, but I'll be following more closely from now :)


    Likewise :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,226 ✭✭✭✭DARK-KNIGHT


    Hi folks

    I dont know where to start here lol

    Ok i trained and ran Dublin 2018

    I was way too heavy, training 24 stone 5 feet 8

    The training went well and ran up to 18 miles twice, in fairness things went against me on the day and it was because I missed a good few runs and while i was training i was trying to avoid hilly areas around kildare.

    I cant state this enough respect the distance

    The day of 2018 arrived up and started well the first few km were great felt great. Did damage to my knee at around 4 miles in and my feet blistered terribly

    At 4 miles i had decided keep going and run walk

    At 8 miles the pain got to the unbearable point and was brisk walking.

    At the half way point in Crumlin i was struggling to walk in pain

    I could have pulled out but the training was in my head and i went on.

    From the 17 mile point i was hobbling couldn't even walk and i fought to the end to finish in 7 hours 55 minutes

    This year will be different, 4 stone down in last 3 months and i feel great. I have ran very little since Dublin as my feet were basically two open wounds for 3 months and i was feeling sorry for myself

    Started back this morning im gonna do it differently this year make sure i train well and keep the diet on point

    Wishing you all the best

    Btw most have positive experiences marathon day, mine were weight related and hope to put it right this year.

    Also i cant state enough the sense of achievement of finishing no matter how you cross tbe line 26 miles is 26 miles


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,226 ✭✭✭✭DARK-KNIGHT


    Also my times best last year although slow

    5k 36 minutes
    10k 1 hour 20
    Half 2 hours 55
    Marathon 7 hours 55

    Im a novice aswell

    I need tbis thread for advice 😳


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,761 ✭✭✭ReeReeG


    Hi All..

    Have been keeping on eye on when this thread would start. Thanks for volunteering your time to provide guidance.

    •Have you raced before?
    - 5k Parkrun - (A year ago!) - 22 mins
    - 10K - (Regularly). 48 mins
    - 10 mile (Trim Feb 2019) 1.17.56

    •Do you still need to take walk breaks in your training?
    - No

    •How much training do you currently do ? Distances, how many days a week, cross training - whatever you think is relevant to your current fitness level.
    - Strength / Conditioning 1/2 days a week (1 hour each time)
    - 2 runs a week at the moment probably 8k-12k depending. I'm looking lose a strength day and add a running day from now.

    •What do you want to achieve? Dream finishing time and realistic finishing time? Or just complete it in no specified time?
    - Realistic Time - Under 4 hours
    - Dream Time - Under 3.45 hours

    •How many days a week can you train? And what plan do you intend to follow?
    - Planning Running 3/4 times weekly
    - Think ill aim for Boards plan.

    •What is your biggest worry/fear/doubt (if you have any!) in signing up?
    - Running "too fast". Relative to MY marathon pace. It is a clear issue with my runs and the fear is injury.
    - I also need to dial in nutrition as im hitting approx 84kg at the moment which doesnt sound like fun dragging for nearly 4 hours.

    •Why are you running this marathon?
    I have spoken about it for a while - and finally wanted to make a commitment. I want to dedicate myself to a goal, come up with a plan and then achieve it.
    No doubt ill need help, guidance and a bit of direction - but looking forward to it.


    Congrats on entering your first marathon Lombardo123! I'd say you could knock a bit off that 10k time, but let's not worry about that right now!


    Do you think you could run 4 days a week? I know you say 3 or 4, but honestly 4 is the more ideal number. The Boards plan is a great one, and has gotten many the novice in good shape for the big day.


    What pace are you running the couple of runs a week currently? You can use a pace calculator to check what your actual easy pace should be.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,306 ✭✭✭ariana`


    It's gives me such a thrill to see this thread up and running again!

    Best of luck to everyone involved. Mr. Guappa and his amazing team in Huzzah and ReeReeG, no doubt you guys will do a super job.

    And best of luck to all the novices without you there would be no thread! You are in for a challenging but amazing few months, you will make friends that will haunt you forever after :P

    Novices, you are in excellent hands with the team of mentors, you will end up being the best prepared bunch of Marathon runners to toe the line next October.

    For anyone reading who is feeling a little unsure about joining in - i believe my first post 2 years ago was 'tentative' and let me tell you it was one of the best things i ever did! Introduce yourselves, post regularly, ask questions (even if you think it's a silly one - there is no question too silly), answer each others' questions too (also part of the learning process), and enjoy it all.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,580 ✭✭✭frash


    Mr. Guappa wrote: »
    Mileage wise you are about where I was this time last year, if not a touch ahead. I think you'd be well able for the boards plan, if you can find the time?
    I notice you run typically run 3 midweek runs, and a Saturday LSR - well the boards plan just has an added 2/3 recovery miles on a Sunday. Check it out

    Hadn't realised there was the 5th day running in the boards plan.
    Maybe I'll stick with the Hal plan but seeing as I'm already ahead of the starting point on that one, I'll try to up the distances of the LSRs in that plan to match up with the LSRs in the boards plans (if that makes sense).

    Anyway - let's see how the next few months go first!


  • Registered Users Posts: 52 ✭✭pd79


    ReeReeG wrote: »
    Hi pd79 and welcome to the thread! We'll certainly try help you hit the goal of finishing in one piece :)

    Don't worry about not doing enough running this year so far, you have 7 weeks-ish before the plans even start, so try get into a good routine between then and now (if you're not already). Do you know what plan you will follow?

    I've printed off hal higeon one and looks doable, is boards one up yet ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,761 ✭✭✭ReeReeG


    pd79 wrote: »
    I've printed off hal higeon one and looks doable, is boards one up yet ?


    Yep, its also linked in the first post on the thread (same sheet but different tab). Worth having a look before you decide.


  • Registered Users Posts: 150 ✭✭Lombardo123


    ReeReeG wrote: »
    Congrats on entering your first marathon Lombardo123! I'd say you could knock a bit off that 10k time, but let's not worry about that right now!


    Do you think you could run 4 days a week? I know you say 3 or 4, but honestly 4 is the more ideal number. The Boards plan is a great one, and has gotten many the novice in good shape for the big day.


    What pace are you running the couple of runs a week currently? You can use a pace calculator to check what your actual easy pace should be.

    Thanks for the link. My runs at the moment would be 5.00 per km for the shorter runs, say 8k. Then if I was doing a 12k, it would be 5.15 or so.

    In the link above, I've input 3.59.59 just to best 4 hours. It's telling me 5.40 a km is the pace at which to run.. Which points out my fears above. I've been going out of the gate too fast!

    Re 4 a week.. I'll have to make it work. Already I can see so many comments saying to do ourselves justice it has to be 4. I'll do it!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,761 ✭✭✭ReeReeG


    Thanks for the link. My runs at the moment would be 5.00 per km for the shorter runs, say 8k. Then if I was doing a 12k, it would be 5.15 or so.

    In the link above, I've input 3.59.59 just to best 4 hours. It's telling me 5.40 a km is the pace at which to run.. Which points out my fears above. I've been going out of the gate too fast!

    Re 4 a week.. I'll have to make it work. Already I can see so many comments saying to do ourselves justice it has to be 4. I'll do it!


    Bear in mind you won't be running many days at the possible marathon pace either, they'll be well slower again... it may shock you but practice running at over 6 mins a km - the more over the better :D


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,799 ✭✭✭Huzzah!


    py wrote: »
    Have you raced before? If so what are your PBs? (Date and distance please!)
    5Km time of 22:40 in Spring 2019 at a Parkrun and 10Km at Dublin Night Run a few weeks back of 50:50.


    Do you still need to take walk breaks in your training? (No problem if you do)
    No, have become quite good at reading what my body is telling me in relation to pace at the distances I have run.


    How much training do you currently do ? Distances, how many days a week, cross training - whatever you think is relevant to your current fitness level.
    Parkrun on a Saturday morning and usually try get another 5-10Km mid week at lunch time.
    Currently in training for a cycling event in early June so once that is done and dusted I'm hoping to get up to the required 4 days per week of running.
    I commute 5 days a week on bicycle which results in 80-90Km on the bike which is mostly low intensity.
    Have done a good few long distance cycling events (100-200Km) and at this stage have nailed my nutrition for those, hoping that side of things transfers over to running.


    What do you want to achieve? Dream finishing time and realistic finishing time? Or just complete it in no specified time?
    4 hours is the dream and hopefully realistic time too but failing that, finishing would be an amazing achievement as I'm only running about 6 months.


    How many days a week can you train? And what plan do you intend to follow?
    4 days should be quite manageable as I'll get the midweek runs done during lunch time in work. The LSR at the weekend is where I'll need to get buy in from the OH/Kids. Planning on doing the Hal Higdon training plan.


    What is your biggest worry/fear/doubt (if you have any!) in signing up?
    At 195cm and 100Kg, getting my body around the course it what scares me the most. I'm also concerned that my body will breakdown during the training and result in me going in to the event being under prepared. Dropping 10Kg prior to the event would help an enormous amount.


    Why are you running this marathon?
    For the challenge.

    Welcome, Py. Looks like we'll be coming to you for nutrition advice!

    When's the cycling event? Will you keep the cycle commute once you're finished the event?

    If you could add another day of running over the coming weeks, that would be great. Hal Higdon looks like a good fit for you. Ideally, you will build slowly to four days running a week before the plan starts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,921 ✭✭✭Bananaleaf


    ReeReeG wrote: »
    Great to have you join Bananaleaf! You're in an excellent position of being used to running 4 or 5 days a week already and I'm happy to see you keep some of them good and slow :) What plan do you think you will follow?

    Thank you ReeReeG. I'm tentatively leaning towards the boards plan


  • Registered Users Posts: 64 ✭✭Wombled


    Hi there, delighted to be on board, running for three years now.
    Pb 10 km 55 mins 2 years ago( time getting worse though). Half marathon 2.16.
    Don't take walking breaks. Spinning onces a week . Run three times a week.
    Hoping to finish the marathon in one piece , would be happy to complete in under 5hours. Will follow the novice plan. Excited but nervous about training


  • Registered Users Posts: 170 ✭✭Animella


    Jumping in here too. I dipped in and out in 2015 but aim to stick to a plan this year.
    Have you raced before? Yes but I’m getting slower ( at 52)
    If so what are your PBs? 5k -24:20
    10k -50:59
    Half marathon 1:56 - all four years ago
    Marathon 2015 4:17:55

    Do you still need to take walk breaks in your training? No

    How much training do you currently do ?
    Not much right now- two 6/8km runs and one longer run a week.
    Not with a club, no formal training.
    Will have more time during the summer.
    Last long run 12 miles on Monday

    What do you want to achieve?
    Sure I’d love to break 4 hours but think 4:10/4:15 is achievable
    But i’ll be happy with under 4:30 and stay injury free

    How many days a week can you train?
    Four or five but one will be cycling or a strengthening class

    What is your biggest worry/fear/doubt (if you have any!)
    Injury

    Why are you running this marathon?
    Did the first one to tick a box before I was 50 . Never planned another one but lots of friends doing the Dublin marathon this year and if you can’t best them, join them..!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,799 ✭✭✭Huzzah!


    Treviso wrote: »
    Finally the thread has started!! I've been reading through last years thread and also follow a lot of training logs in here so it made sense for me to join this group.

    I started running last October after deciding that playing soccer was causing me too many injuries - had to figure out a new way to keep myself fit. My wife is a great runner so I reluctantly started too.

    But I'm really enjoying it I have to say, especially when you notice the big improvements over time. I'm currently following a P&D 30 mile plan for the Cork Half Marathon

    Have you raced before? If so what are your PBs? (Date and distance please!) 5k - 23 mins parkrun early January (hope to smash that this Sunday in the Bweeng 5k)
    10 mile - 74.30mins (Mallow in March)
    Latest race was The Great Railway 25k run which I did i in 2hrs5min (avg 8.02)
    Hoping/Plan to do the Cork half in 1.40

    How much training do you currently do ?
    Im up to 30 miles per week, 4 days a week

    What do you want to achieve?
    Going to train for a 3.30 marathon - running the 25k @ 8min mile influenced this decision

    How many days a week can you train? And what plan do you intend to follow? Going to increase to 5 days a week running, and use the P&D Advanced 50 mile plan. Looking at the plan, it will be tough but looks enjoyable. I like the progression long runs that I currently do.

    What is your biggest worry/fear/doubt (if you have any!) in signing up?
    Apart from injury, which is everyone's fear, my biggest concern is I will never be happy with the times I run. I will constantly seek to improve and improve those times whilst never enjoying the actually achievement of running them

    Why are you running this marathon?
    I started running to keep fit, I entered the Cork Half Marathon to have something to aim for. I entered the DCM2019 cos it was selling out fast - is that how these things always work out!?

    Looking forward to joining in with this new group and see what we can all achieve together.

    Welcome, Treviso. First off, good luck on Sunday. Be sure and report back on how you get on.

    If that's the P&L plan from Faster Road Running, I've followed it a couple of times myself. It should stand you in good stead for Cork.

    I don't have the Advanced Marathoning Plan to hand but I'll have a wee look tonight. I'd be interested if some of the more experienced Boardsies could chip in on an opinion on using it for a first marathon.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,338 ✭✭✭eyrie


    So exciting to see this thread up and running! Joining it and running the marathon last year was one of the best things I've ever done. You're all in for a hell of a ride... :pac: Good luck and most importantly enjoy it!


  • Registered Users Posts: 183 ✭✭Strawberry Swan


    Exciting times! Best of luck to all novices. It's a great thing to be part of and makes the training so much easier as you feel like part of a group working towards a common goal. And having guidance from the excellent mentors means you have the best chance of getting to the start line healthy and well trained.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,770 ✭✭✭Mr. Guappa


    I've set up a Strava club for our novices: https://www.strava.com/clubs/523351:

    Remember - if it's not on Strava it didn't happen :pac:

    I've made the club invite-only, so when you apply to join, if you could also send a PM with your Strava name to myself (or ReeReeG or Huzzah!) and we'll accept you into the group.

    One important point for any novices to bear in mind on Strava is not to be intimidated by the paces or mileage of others. There will likely be plenty of experienced and faster runners in the group. They are following their plans, stick to your plan and your paces, nobody is judging. As you get to know your fellow novices it is really interesting (and motivating) to see what, when and where they are doing their training.


  • Registered Users Posts: 52 ✭✭pd79


    ReeReeG wrote: »
    Yep, its also linked in the first post on the thread (same sheet but different tab). Worth having a look before you decide.

    Found it thank you


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,590 ✭✭✭py


    Huzzah! wrote: »
    Welcome, Py. Looks like we'll be coming to you for nutrition advice!

    When's the cycling event? Will you keep the cycle commute once you're finished the event?

    If you could add another day of running over the coming weeks, that would be great. Hal Higdon looks like a good fit for you. Ideally, you will build slowly to four days running a week before the plan starts.

    Would be happy to help with nutrition if I can. I've definitely found it to be subjective but happy to go through what I've tried and what works for me now whilst on the bike. This stuff may change for running so I'm keeping an open mind for it as I start out on this path.

    Cycling event is 2nd week in June. Definitely will be keeping up the cycling commute after the event but can keep it to recovery/endurance pace for the duration of the week as I'm not really in any great hurry on the bike, just prefer this way of commuting. I do take the bus the odd time to rest the legs now so will probably do that too when the running training starts ramping up.

    I'm going to be adding that extra running day next week.

    Forgot to add, this will be my first marathon.

    Thanks for running this thread, very informative so far.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,770 ✭✭✭Mr. Guappa


    Limerick91 wrote: »
    Thank you for starting the thread Mr Guppa

    Here are answers!!

    •Have you raced before? If so what are your PBs? (Date and distance please!)
    PB's are a good few years ago so I am not taking them into account.
    Did Limerick Marathon in 2015 4:09 and 2016 4:14.
    Ran the Limerick Half Marathon at the weekend in under 1:57 so that is more of an indication of where I am

    •Do you still need to take walk breaks in your training? (No problem if you do) - No

    •How much training do you currently do ? Distances, how many days a week, cross training - whatever you think is relevant to your current fitness level.
    Yoga once a week
    Swim once a week
    3 runs a week, fast 5k, marathon pace 10K, longer run at the weekends

    •What do you want to achieve? Dream finishing time and realistic finishing time? Or just complete it in no specified time?
    First ambition is to enjoy the race and run all 26.2 miles
    Dream finishing time 3:59:59
    Realistic finishing time a pb of under 4:09

    •How many days a week can you train? And what plan do you intend to follow?
    Will be running 3 times a week

    •What is your biggest worry/fear/doubt (if you have any!) in signing up?
    Getting injured
    My life getting in the way of running or running getting in the way of my life

    •Why are you running this marathon?
    I want to have the experience of running a big city event. The Limerick Marathon while well run for parts is just like a small club race. When struggling at the end of the Limerick Marathon the fast half marathoners pass you by which is soul destroying. In Dublin everyone is in the same both

    Welcome Limerick91! The finishing miles of Dublin is a memory of last year that really stayed with me. It felt like there was supporters everywhere, and really helped me tough it out when the body was suffering! The closing stretch was just a wall of noise! Running DCM as your first is a great decision I think.

    A PB seems achievable based on your half time, and I'd be recommending the boards plan for you if you could commit to the 5 days? You're not the first person to say they plan on training for 3 days a week, and I've got to say it's not enough.

    This time last year I was running 2-3 days a week, covering maybe 15 mpw, and the thoughts of running 5 days per week seemed ridiculous. But, as per the plans, I slowed my paces right down which meant I was fresher and able to run more often. I work a 24/7 shift pattern and I'd concerns about actually finding the time to squeeze in all the runs, but I found a way - be it late evenings, early mornings, lunchtimes, pretty much whenever I had a window. It took a bit of planning but it was very doable.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,770 ✭✭✭Mr. Guappa


    Hi folks

    I dont know where to start here lol

    Ok i trained and ran Dublin 2018

    I was way too heavy, training 24 stone 5 feet 8

    The training went well and ran up to 18 miles twice, in fairness things went against me on the day and it was because I missed a good few runs and while i was training i was trying to avoid hilly areas around kildare.

    I cant state this enough respect the distance

    The day of 2018 arrived up and started well the first few km were great felt great. Did damage to my knee at around 4 miles in and my feet blistered terribly

    At 4 miles i had decided keep going and run walk

    At 8 miles the pain got to the unbearable point and was brisk walking.

    At the half way point in Crumlin i was struggling to walk in pain

    I could have pulled out but the training was in my head and i went on.

    From the 17 mile point i was hobbling couldn't even walk and i fought to the end to finish in 7 hours 55 minutes

    This year will be different, 4 stone down in last 3 months and i feel great. I have ran very little since Dublin as my feet were basically two open wounds for 3 months and i was feeling sorry for myself

    Started back this morning im gonna do it differently this year make sure i train well and keep the diet on point

    Wishing you all the best

    Btw most have positive experiences marathon day, mine were weight related and hope to put it right this year.

    Also i cant state enough the sense of achievement of finishing no matter how you cross tbe line 26 miles is 26 miles

    Hi DARK-KNIGHT.

    Wow! That sounds like a hell of an ordeal last year - I've nothing but admiration for the absolute dogged determination I'm sure it took to reach the finish line last year. Unbelievable - well done!

    Over the next few weeks just take it nice and easy, and build the mileage back up ever so gradually. Do you have a plan in mind for this year?


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,770 ✭✭✭Mr. Guappa


    Wombled wrote: »
    Hi there, delighted to be on board, running for three years now.
    Pb 10 km 55 mins 2 years ago( time getting worse though). Half marathon 2.16.
    Don't take walking breaks. Spinning onces a week . Run three times a week.
    Hoping to finish the marathon in one piece , would be happy to complete in under 5hours. Will follow the novice plan. Excited but nervous about training

    Hi Wombled! Delighted to welcome you on board! Your'e right to be excited - it's an exciting time! It looks like you've a nice base routine there that will stand you in good stead as the training begins. What type of mileage would you run in a typical week at the moment?


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,770 ✭✭✭Mr. Guappa


    Animella wrote: »
    Jumping in here too. I dipped in and out in 2015 but aim to stick to a plan this year.
    Have you raced before? Yes but I’m getting slower ( at 52)
    If so what are your PBs? 5k -24:20
    10k -50:59
    Half marathon 1:56 - all four years ago
    Marathon 2015 4:17:55

    Do you still need to take walk breaks in your training? No

    How much training do you currently do ?
    Not much right now- two 6/8km runs and one longer run a week.
    Not with a club, no formal training.
    Will have more time during the summer.
    Last long run 12 miles on Monday

    What do you want to achieve?
    Sure I’d love to break 4 hours but think 4:10/4:15 is achievable
    But i’ll be happy with under 4:30 and stay injury free

    How many days a week can you train?
    Four or five but one will be cycling or a strengthening class

    What is your biggest worry/fear/doubt (if you have any!)
    Injury

    Why are you running this marathon?
    Did the first one to tick a box before I was 50 . Never planned another one but lots of friends doing the Dublin marathon this year and if you can’t best them, join them..!

    Hi Animella - good to have you with us! With that type of long run under your belt already you are in a great spot to be facing into marathon training. Do you have some recent race times to get an idea of what your current training paces should be?


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,770 ✭✭✭Mr. Guappa


    frash wrote: »
    Hadn't realised there was the 5th day running in the boards plan.
    Maybe I'll stick with the Hal plan but seeing as I'm already ahead of the starting point on that one, I'll try to up the distances of the LSRs in that plan to match up with the LSRs in the boards plans (if that makes sense).

    Anyway - let's see how the next few months go first!

    I did the boards plan last year and loved it. The Wednesday session in that plan was always one I looked forward to - I always found it a nice change of pace (literally).

    But you're right - try and keep at a consistent 4 days a week for the next while and see what you think towards the end of June.


  • Registered Users Posts: 170 ✭✭Animella


    Mr. Guappa wrote: »
    Hi Animella - good to have you with us! With that type of long run under your belt already you are in a great spot to be facing into marathon training. Do you have some recent race times to get an idea of what your current training paces should be?

    Thanks a million, Mr. Guappa.

    Last half marathon - London Big Half this March in 1.59:22
    Last 10k two weeks ago 54:55

    I seem to have one pace at the moment, my half marathon pace 😕


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,501 ✭✭✭Laineyfrecks


    Mr. Guappa wrote: »
    Hi Laineyfrecks, and welcome to the thread!

    Those are some very good 5k and 10k times, and that 4 hour aim is definitely not out of reach, but you are 100% correct not to worry too much about that for now.

    You will be well able for the Boards plan. Getting injured is part and parcel of running, but the sensible training in the plans here will ensure that you are minimizing the risk of injury.

    Best wishes to your friend, and you've very admirable reasons for doing this.
    Great to have you onboard!

    Thanks a mill, great to have support & advice! I have downloaded the boards plan & will take a look at it. I have a couple more short races signed up, always chasing that PB then my focus will solely be on the Marathon!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,476 ✭✭✭Comic Book Guy


    Wow it’s this time of the year again!

    Best of luck to each and every one of the 2019 Novices. Ye are in for one huge roller coaster ride but rest assured you are in the best possible hands with this years 3 mentors. They were all in your runners not that long ago and came through the other side so put your faith in them.
    My own advice to ye is don’t be afraid to post regularly in the thread, the only silly question is the one not asked. I would encourage ye all to post at least weekly even if it’s just a progress report of your previous weeks runs and how you found them and the plan. If you are unsure about how a run went etc you can be sure there is someone else in the same boat.
    The thread is also a great motivation tool in itself and you are going to make some great “internet friends” along the journey! You are all going to do something that less than 1% of the general population have done but it’s not all about the final destination but about the journey shared!

    Big shout out to my own “internet friends” Mr Guappa, Huzzah, and ReeReeG. The novices couldn’t have asked for better mentors and ye are going to do a smashing job.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,226 ✭✭✭✭DARK-KNIGHT


    Mr. Guappa wrote: »
    Hi DARK-KNIGHT.

    Wow! That sounds like a hell of an ordeal last year - I've nothing but admiration for the absolute dogged determination I'm sure it took to reach the finish line last year. Unbelievable - well done!

    Over the next few weeks just take it nice and easy, and build the mileage back up ever so gradually. Do you have a plan in mind for this year?
    Ill probably follow the same official dcm plan i did last year

    My main aim is to lose as much weight as possible before the day

    Thats all i can do different and just do the training fully

    Thanks for replying

    I didn't mean to intimidate anyone re the marathon but people need to know respect the distance, we will all get there but might aswell get there safely


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  • Registered Users Posts: 64 ✭✭Wombled


    Thanks Mr Guappa, a few hiccups lately so not as much miles as I hoped for, probably only around 12 miles at the moment. 20 miles back in March. Had a foot issue not a running related injury buts its getting better now.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,525 ✭✭✭kilns


    Hi All,

    I will jump in also even though I have not got an entry yet, hopefully will get one when they release more entries in July

    •Have you raced before?
    Geneva Half Marathon 2:01
    10k 55mins

    •Do you still need to take walk breaks in your training?
    - No

    •How much training do you currently do ? Distances, how many days a week, cross training - whatever you think is relevant to your current fitness level.
    - 3 runs a week. 5k twice during week and 8-10km on weekend.

    •What do you want to achieve? Dream finishing time and realistic finishing time? Or just complete it in no specified time?
    - Realistic Time - Under 4.5 hours
    - Dream Time - Under 4 hours

    •How many days a week can you train? And what plan do you intend to follow?
    - Planning Running 4/5 times weekly
    - I was training for the Valencia marathon last year when my wife gave birth half way through the training, which ended that! But I had a custom plan from the RunSmart project which I could use again but I am open to others.

    •What is your biggest worry/fear/doubt (if you have any!) in signing up?
    - Getting injured or another excuse getting in the way, I was planning to do Valencia with another friend and let them down by pulling out.
    - My current weight is not good in terms of getting round the course in the times I want, so i need to resist temptation and stick to a very good diet and get the proper nutrition, hopefully dropping 15kgs before start day (currently 103kg).

    •Why are you running this marathon?
    I have always wanted to do one, have spoken about it many times and entered but did not make the start line, this time it is going to be different.

    I live in Switzerland, so all my training will be done there, so through the summer it is going to be very hot


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,585 ✭✭✭nop98


    Best of luck to the 2019 Novices!

    Keep in mind: it will be harder to get to the startline, than it will be to get to the finish. Train conservatively and set realistic goals. Luckily you have your mentors here to keep you honest! Good luck to Mr Guappa and team!


  • Registered Users Posts: 764 ✭✭✭Rega


    I’m in! Looking forward to this. I’ve been a sunshine runner for the last ten years. Started in May and finished in September. I usually aimed to do a half marathon in August and just tapered off after that when the kids went back to school and the evenings got dark (as I live and run in the countryside). I kept up the running after last summer am raring to go!

    Have you raced before? If so what are your PBs? (Date and distance please!)
    5k 23:55 Streets of Kilkenny 5K April 19
    8K 38:05 Kilkenny Race Series May 19
    10K 52:19 Johnswell 10K June 17
    10 Mile 1hr 24 Mallow AC 10 Mile March 19
    Half Marathon 1hr 53 Waterford Half Marathon December 18

    Do you still need to take walk breaks in your training? (No problem if you do)
    No

    How much training do you currently do ? Distances, how many days a week, cross training - whatever you think is relevant to your current fitness level.
    Currently 3 days a week. 5-8 miles each time. Will step up to 5 days a week very soon as the evenings get brighter.

    What do you want to achieve? Dream finishing time and realistic finishing time? Or just complete it in no specified time?
    Dream is 3:59:59. Hopefully under 4:30. Not too fussed to be honest once I can keep going and finish it.

    How many days a week can you train? And what plan do you intend to follow?
    5 days a week is doable. I think I'll do Hal Higdon's Novice 2 programme.

    What is your biggest worry/fear/doubt (if you have any!) in signing up?
    Injury

    Why are you running this marathon?
    I always said I’d like to do a marathon before I'm 30. I'm 40 in November! Better late than never. Dublin is supposed to be a great experience so here we go.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,590 ✭✭✭py


    With the training plans taking in the Dublin Race Series, if anyone comes across a discount code you please let me know. €55 for all 3 is not much tbh but any saving would be welcome.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,250 ✭✭✭coogy


    Rega wrote: »
    I always said I’d like to do a marathon before I'm 30. I'm 40 in November! Better late than never. Dublin is supposed to be a great experience so here we go.


    NEVER too late. I was 45 when I ran my first marathon last year and have no intention of stopping any time soon (running, that is......not last year's marathon) :D


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,761 ✭✭✭ReeReeG


    kilns wrote: »
    Hi All,

    I will jump in also even though I have not got an entry yet, hopefully will get one when they release more entries in July

    •Have you raced before?
    Geneva Half Marathon 2:01
    10k 55mins

    •Do you still need to take walk breaks in your training?
    - No

    •How much training do you currently do ? Distances, how many days a week, cross training - whatever you think is relevant to your current fitness level.
    - 3 runs a week. 5k twice during week and 8-10km on weekend.

    •What do you want to achieve? Dream finishing time and realistic finishing time? Or just complete it in no specified time?
    - Realistic Time - Under 4.5 hours
    - Dream Time - Under 4 hours

    •How many days a week can you train? And what plan do you intend to follow?
    - Planning Running 4/5 times weekly
    - I was training for the Valencia marathon last year when my wife gave birth half way through the training, which ended that! But I had a custom plan from the RunSmart project which I could use again but I am open to others.

    •What is your biggest worry/fear/doubt (if you have any!) in signing up?
    - Getting injured or another excuse getting in the way, I was planning to do Valencia with another friend and let them down by pulling out.
    - My current weight is not good in terms of getting round the course in the times I want, so i need to resist temptation and stick to a very good diet and get the proper nutrition, hopefully dropping 15kgs before start day (currently 103kg).

    •Why are you running this marathon?
    I have always wanted to do one, have spoken about it many times and entered but did not make the start line, this time it is going to be different.

    I live in Switzerland, so all my training will be done there, so through the summer it is going to be very hot


    Hi kilns, thanks for joining! Firstly, I hope you get a spot come July :) If not, maybe you could look at other marathons in Ireland around that time; I know Clonakilty is about a month later, although hillier.. but lets hope it doesn't come to that!


    When did you run that HM time? Good to see you're willing to increase the running days to 4 or 5, that will be really good.


    I think you're being a little harsh on yourself saying a new baby was an "excuse" to pull out of the Valencia marathon :) that's a good reason for running to take the backseat. Life can get in the way of our hobbies sometimes, and that's ok.

    There seem to be a few who are going to tackle diet over the coming months, so I think this forum will provide a good support network for you all.


    Are you in a hilly part of Switzerland?! With the warm weather training and a few hills, you could find Dublin in October a nicer experience!


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,525 ✭✭✭kilns


    ReeReeG wrote: »
    Hi kilns, thanks for joining! Firstly, I hope you get a spot come July :) If not, maybe you could look at other marathons in Ireland around that time; I know Clonakilty is about a month later, although hillier.. but lets hope it doesn't come to that!


    When did you run that HM time? Good to see you're willing to increase the running days to 4 or 5, that will be really good.


    I think you're being a little harsh on yourself saying a new baby was an "excuse" to pull out of the Valencia marathon :) that's a good reason for running to take the backseat. Life can get in the way of our hobbies sometimes, and that's ok.

    There seem to be a few who are going to tackle diet over the coming months, so I think this forum will provide a good support network for you all.


    Are you in a hilly part of Switzerland?! With the warm weather training and a few hills, you could find Dublin in October a nicer experience!

    If I dont get the entry I think I will either look at Frankfurt which I could drive to or Valencia again (which I have heard is a fantastic race)

    The HM time was exactly this time last year as the Geneva HM is this weekend coming. I did train well for that a stuck to a plan but never sorted the diet so I know I could have gone alot quicker with a few kilos less!

    I am not exactly in the mountains but there is always a mountain around the corner here so plenty of hills to run up!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 547 ✭✭✭Soulsun


    Hi All,

    Looking forward to this.
    First marathon and touching on 40.
    Will put up details later.
    Best of luck everyone.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3 theresaa


    Hi
    Thanks for starting this thread. This is my first marathon attempt so hoping my sciatica wont block me from doing this. I appreciate all the support I can get.
    Cheers


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,770 ✭✭✭Mr. Guappa


    Wombled wrote: »
    Thanks Mr Guappa, a few hiccups lately so not as much miles as I hoped for, probably only around 12 miles at the moment. 20 miles back in March. Had a foot issue not a running related injury buts its getting better now.

    That's fine Wombled. Make sure that foot is right first then work on gradually getting that weekly mileage back up towards 20 in time for the start of the plans.


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