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Miniature Train - Salthill Leisureland

  • 08-02-2009 1:04pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 27


    Hello everyone,

    I wondered if anyone on these boards had any memories or photos of the miniature train that ran round the funfair at Leisureland, Salthill, on the seafront, that they could share with me?

    Anything would be interesting and appreciated.

    Thanks in advance,
    Peter


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,892 ✭✭✭Head The Wall


    It still runs there, wait till summer


  • Registered Users Posts: 27 peterbrynt


    Headthewall,

    Thanks for the reply.

    I'm particularly interested in the miniature train that used to run there. It was much smaller than the one that is there now.

    It ran at Galway from 1973 to 2003, before being replaced by the bigger train and moving elsewhere. I'm really after pictures or memories of this particular train.

    Thanks
    Peter


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    I found the new train on www.perksleisureland.com/news1.html but you probably already seen that?


  • Registered Users Posts: 27 peterbrynt


    Biko,

    Thanks for the link, I have come across this before. This is the new 2 foot gauge train which has replaced the one I'm after memories/photos of.

    Peter


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,545 ✭✭✭sgthighway


    I heard before that the old one was run off an old Escort Engine. I know nothing about trains so it could be a load of crap.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 27 peterbrynt


    Sgt Highway,

    Thanks for the reply. You're correct, it originally had an Escort engine, but was replaced in 1994 by a Perkins engine.

    Keep the photos/memories coming!

    Thanks
    Peter


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,641 ✭✭✭paconnors


    as far as I can remember that old train went to a museum in the south.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,209 ✭✭✭✭JohnCleary


    Maybe get in touch with the Perk family (im sure theres some sort of contacts on the website) and ask them?

    One of the family lives in Galway but you'd be better off trying to get in touch with Russel Perk Senior (The owner of Perks amusments)


  • Registered Users Posts: 27 peterbrynt


    Paconnors and John,

    Thanks for your response. I will do. I'm researching the Severn Lamb locomotives like the ones that were at Leisureland.

    Does anyone else have anymore photos or memories of it? Even recollections of what colour it used to be would be interesting!

    Thanks
    Peter


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,104 ✭✭✭moonflower


    I don't remember the old one, but I do have a photo of me on it from around 1996.
    I don't have a working scanner though.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,158 ✭✭✭donmeister


    Lmao@this thread


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 177 ✭✭mercuroman


    I think it could have been red - not sure - but I do remember leaving coins on the tracks to get crushed under it!


  • Registered Users Posts: 27 peterbrynt


    Thanks for the responses all.

    Moonflower - I will contact you over PM, any pictures of it will be interesting!

    Mecuroman - Interesting to hear it was red, I have not seen any photos of it in that livery. I bet your coins got crushed!

    Keep them coming :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,545 ✭✭✭sgthighway


    I'll dig out some photos when I call home at the weekend. I'm sure we have a photo of it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 27 peterbrynt


    Sgthighway,

    Thanks, if you can find any photos, that would be great. Most of the Rio Grande locomotives were originally black livery.

    Peter


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 177 ✭✭mercuroman


    peterbrynt wrote: »
    Interesting to hear it was red, I have not seen any photos of it in that livery. I bet your coins got crushed!

    I could be completely wrong - could be mixing memories of it being red but my coins were definitely crushed!


  • Registered Users Posts: 27 peterbrynt


    I'm still on the look out for any old pictures or memories anyone has of this train? It would be great to see them, please do get in touch if you have any.

    I've been told that the train was originally delivered in green livery. Does this rekindle any memories?

    Thanks
    Peter


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,105 ✭✭✭happyoutscan


    Their website is more exciting than their amusement park.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,266 ✭✭✭Steyr


    Just a heads up OP, that train is back out and about daily in Leisureland doing the track, its red.:)


  • Registered Users Posts: 85 ✭✭gmkgreaney


    JohnCleary wrote: »
    Maybe get in touch with the Perk family (im sure theres some sort of contacts on the website) and ask them?

    One of the family lives in Galway but you'd be better off trying to get in touch with Russel Perk Senior (The owner of Perks amusments)

    hes unapproachable , between him the wife and jonathan there the most ignorent and stingy people iv ever met, tbh i never knew the train was changed was more of a walzer fan myself


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  • Registered Users Posts: 27 peterbrynt


    Thanks for the messages - I've been in touch with the Perks already and they're very nice people.

    But what I'm really interested in, is the smaller train that used to run their before the big train that runs there now! The old train ran from 1973 to 2003 at Salthill.

    Any photos/memories, please post them!

    Thanks
    Peter


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,966 ✭✭✭Andrea B.


    A few nights before Halloween in 1982 (I think) the train was burnt out in an accident during juvenile theft of petrol from tank. A few years after that they built the lock-up tunnel.

    A new/refurbished engine arrived around May the following year so not many people noticed loss.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 812 ✭✭✭gary82


    This photo was on the Leisureland site, maaay well be the same train as linked above but with a different paint-job, the chimney at the front is different as well...

    train4.jpg

    I think this might be the modern one...
    train1.jpg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,414 ✭✭✭kraggy


    That green one is the one that was there pre 2003 alright.

    I used to work there and the train was green as far as I can remember back, which is 1991-1994.


  • Registered Users Posts: 27 peterbrynt


    Many thanks for these posts, very interesting.

    Andrea B - I've seen a picture from 1983 and there was certainly a mock up tunnel on the railway then, so I'm guessing they put it up that winter? But I'm very sure that it's the same locomotive, and perhaps it wasn't as damaged as at first imagined?

    Gary82 - Thanks for that, not seen this photo before. This is how it looks now in the green livery. The red locomotive is a larger gauge and was built by the same company in 2003.

    Kraggy - Thanks, did it look pretty much the same as it does in the photo Gary posted there?

    Keep it coming

    Thanks
    Peter


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,966 ✭✭✭Andrea B.


    Andrea B - I've seen a picture from 1983 and there was certainly a mock up tunnel on the railway then, so I'm guessing they put it up that winter? But I'm very sure that it's the same locomotive, and perhaps it wasn't as damaged as at first imagined?

    It was definitely taken away after fire, as I have vivid memories of it traveling on back of truck down Threadneedle Rd before school broke for Summer.

    The tunnel I speak of was arched one covered in grass at far side and parellel to where hotel is now.


  • Registered Users Posts: 27 peterbrynt


    Andrea,

    Thanks - so you saw it on the truck before Summer 1983 or 1982? Sorry for the confusion!

    I bet that was in the local press at the time, but it's definetly the same loco as first built for there.

    Thanks
    Peter


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,266 ✭✭✭Steyr


    There is indeed a tunnel its across from the Galway Bay Hotel, it's where they parked/keep the train at night and when not in use, locked from both sides and has swing doors. I remember the green train too with the red grate at the front, i also remember removing little stones from the line if i noticed them, just in case the train de-railed:pac::D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,209 ✭✭✭✭JohnCleary


    Steyr wrote: »
    There is indeed a tunnel its across from the Galway Bay Hotel, it's where they parked/keep the train at night and when not in use, locked from both sides and has swing doors. I remember the green train too with the red grate at the front, i also remember removing little stones from the line if i noticed them, just in case the train de-railed:pac::D

    That b4starding green train used to walways derail. Was some craic trying to get it back on the line with a big iron bar!


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    JohnCleary wrote: »
    That b4starding green train used to walways derail. Was some craic trying to get it back on the line with a big iron bar!

    Either you don't want to say bastarding or b4starding was the make of the train.

    Holy shizzle I'm tired.


  • Registered Users Posts: 27 peterbrynt


    Steyr wrote: »
    There is indeed a tunnel its across from the Galway Bay Hotel, it's where they parked/keep the train at night and when not in use, locked from both sides and has swing doors. I remember the green train too with the red grate at the front, i also remember removing little stones from the line if i noticed them, just in case the train de-railed:pac::D

    Thanks - saved a few derailments then, depends how the track was laid.

    Keep the memories and photos coming please folks, all been really useful so far!

    Thanks
    Peter


  • Registered Users Posts: 27 peterbrynt


    Hello All,

    Since I posted this, we have purchased the 15" gauge locomotive and coaches that used to run at Salthill, from the Perks, and are in the process of restoring them - see photo:

    rio12.jpg


    Does anyone remember this locomotive and its train? Any photos or further memories of it, please post them. I hope the photo rejogs a few peoples memories.

    I've also attached a photo of it in 1983 - anyone know why it's numbered 382? Is it something to do with Galway? And yes, it is the same locomotive, it was rebuilt in 1994!

    We hardly know anything about its past in Ireland, and would really like to see some photos of it.

    Thanks in Advance
    Peter


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,345 ✭✭✭Dunjohn


    Glad to see you've bought it, but I'm just wondering, what are you going to do with it? And why are you so interested in this particular train?

    I worked for a few summers at Perks and manned the train a lot. I drove it occasionally, but mainly I sat at the back, collecting fares and keeping an eye on people while this Russian guy Igor drove it. I don't remember exactly which years these were, I think 97-00ish. I'm trying to see if that's Igor in the photo gary82 posted, but the resolution's too low. We both had to wear those caps to keep the sun off.

    The locomotive was parked in the tunnel at night but the carriages wouldn't fit, so they were locked in a cage around the back of the park. I remember one time I yelled to Igor to stop the train because some passengers weren't staying inside the carriage. He did and I got off and asked them to, but Igor thought I was still onboard and pulled off again. I couldn't jump on because they'd were inside the cage so I had to run along behind them with everybody laughing at me.

    That's pretty much the only memorable event I have, other than trying to explain to Igor what the lyrics "she's gonna look like she's a chimney on her" meant.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,380 ✭✭✭TheCosmicFrog


    That's brilliant, Peter. Where are you/your company based?


  • Registered Users Posts: 27 peterbrynt


    Thanks for the replies.

    DunJohn - Good to hear from someone who worked on the train - has the loco changed at all since you worked on it? You don't happen to have any photos of the train at all please?

    We're going to run the locomotive at a public railway in Lancashire in England, for the time being. Interested in its history, as want to see how it has changed over the years, and know very little about it (only seen 4 photos prior to buying it).

    TheCosmicFrog - The locomotive is in Lancashire, and the coaches are in store in Yorkshire at the present time.

    Here is the only other photos I have of our train at Galway, taken in 1991 by Peter Scott - as you can see from the photos above in comparison, at the time it was black, and had the front two wheels (underneath the cowcatcher) are missing.

    leisureland123691.jpgleisureland123691.jpg

    leisureland223691.jpg

    leisureland223691.jpgDoes anyone else have any photos or memories of this?

    Thanks
    Peter


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5 delboy1986


    i dont know any more info on the train. have you tried contacting the perks. i do know where the old tunnel is left tho.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 976 ✭✭✭Arnold Layne


    I remember that train well. As a ten year old, my mates & I used to wait until the train went by the old house and then jump on the back of it and jump back off when "civilisation" was visible again. We thought we were sh1t hot. :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,209 ✭✭✭✭JohnCleary


    That brings back some memories!

    I remember when it used to be 20p a go, and it did 3 laps.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 181 ✭✭Original Steyr


    Hi peterbrynt,

    Will you be keeping her in her original Irish colours and the Galway crest on her?

    Well done on the purchase, good to see she has a new home.:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,345 ✭✭✭Dunjohn


    I'm sorry, I don't have any pictures of my own. I'm pretty sure it looks the same as when I was there.

    Personally, I vastly prefer the green to the red. The red has a nice funfair feel to it, but the green was so much more elegant.

    Are those black pictures definitely 1991? I didn't think the fences were that old (I moved here in 1990).


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  • Registered Users Posts: 27 peterbrynt


    Hello All,

    Thanks for your replies, it's good to hear about the train.

    DelBoy1986 - Thanks for suggestion, we've been in touch with the Perks as bought it from them - surely it's old tunnel is used for the larger train?

    JohnClearly - Shame railways don't charge those sort of prices these days!

    Original Steyr - Thanks, the loco will be repainted into Light Brunswick Green, which is pretty close to what it is now. - however we've removed the Galway crests (do they actually have some history? We thought they were just a funfair thing) but we do still have them. It's irish roots won't be forgotten though! The coaches which are a mix of yellow and red will be repainted and reroofed.

    DunJohn - Thanks for getting back, if you know of any other people who may have photos, then I'd be very interested to hear from them. I prefer the Green as well, though the Red suits the new loco, it wouldn't had suited ours! The photos were taken on 23rd June 1991, pretty sure! The locomotive is slightly different before its rebuild at Severn Lamb in 1994.

    Keep the posts coming, all very interesting so far, there must be some photos out there!

    Thanks
    Peter

    PS. I'll post some photos once our locos been painted in the next few weeks.


  • Registered Users Posts: 27 peterbrynt


    Hello All,

    We now have the ex-Galway Rio back running again, it was in traffic at its new home at the Windmill Farm Railway in Lancashire, England.

    Here are two photos from today:

    CIMG3611.jpg

    CIMG3605.jpg

    It has been repainted in Light Brunswick Green, and is 95% complete, just a few jobs here and there.

    We are still very keen to see any photos, or find out anymore information about its life in Ireland, so if anyone has anything, please post here.

    Thanks
    Peter


  • Registered Users Posts: 27 peterbrynt


    Hi All,

    Just another plea to see if anyone here has any photos of the old train that ran at Perks Funfair, Galway? Still not seen anymore since this thread started in 2009!

    We had it running in Scotland for two years (and she performed well overall) and she is now back in store receiving some attention on the hydraulic motor and electrics in the tender.

    The coaches on the other hand are back in use at a private railway, we built new curved roofs replacing the slightly battered plastic ones, and they've been repainted in brown/black instead of the old red/yellow.

    Will try and post some photos if anyone is interested.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,707 ✭✭✭BeardySi


    I'm afraid I've no photos, but you've certainly put a smile on my face! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,543 ✭✭✭A2LUE42


    Had a lot of trips on this in the late 70's and early 80's. Great to see it up and running again. Don't have any photos though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,958 ✭✭✭_Whimsical_


    No photos either but I loved this train as a kid. When I was first on it I was young enough not to realize that the back of leisureland might look different to the front. I remember thinking "wow where are we now,are we going some place exciting???" when the train turned into the green tree lined area at the back and then being quite disappointed when we arrived up back in Leisureland a few minutes later.
    Still though it was fantastic. :)


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