Big Chinese spy ring in Ireland

Kermit.de.frog · 30-11-2019 9:36pm #1

Irish Times has a scoop this evening on the Chinese, a great bunch of lads.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/asia-pacific/china-has-a-lot-of-spies-in-ireland-activists-claim-1.4097005

:cool:

Gatling · 30-11-2019 9:39pm

Hang around Grafton Street when the falun gong group is there you will see Chinese nationals on phones and with DSLRs taking photos and video of everyone who interacts with the group

Kermit.de.frog · 30-11-2019 9:41pm

whiskeyman · 30-11-2019 9:45pm

Those Chinese are good spies in fairness...

Peking here, there and everywhere...

Professor Genius · 30-11-2019 9:45pm

It is about the spice bag?

Upforthematch · 30-11-2019 9:59pm

If the Irish Times could do more of this type of journalism I'd be more likely to pick up a copy or subscribe

Felix Jones is God. · 30-11-2019 10:01pm

Gatling wrote: »

Hang around Grafton Street when the falun gong group is there you will see Chinese nationals on phones and with DSLRs taking photos and video of everyone who interacts with the group

Dr Quirkys was a well known hangout for some nasty Chinese individuals.

old_aussie · 30-11-2019 10:04pm

The Butcher of Beijing, Xi Jinping doesn't want the world to know the truth!

P.S. Please make welcome your new "take-away" your rights and freedom landlords.

BDI · 30-11-2019 10:06pm

They know what i had for dinner, that’s for damn sure.

Spanish Eyes · 30-11-2019 10:10pm

Surprise surprise. Nice deflection from the London Bridge murders.

But anyway, from my obs generally Chinese just work, work, work. Never see them in a pub. They are work animals really. And very observant of our laws.

Come to think of it, have rarely seen a black person in our pubs either. But I am sure I have used the incorrect nomenclature there somehow.

Kermit.de.frog · 30-11-2019 10:18pm

Xi was a natural at the hurling when he was here

xi-jinping-hurl-i

BDI · 30-11-2019 10:24pm

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Surprise surprise. Nice deflection from the London Bridge murders.

But anyway, from my obs generally Chinese just work, work, work. Never see them in a pub. They are work animals really. And very observant of our laws.

Come to think of it, have rarely seen a black person in our pubs either. But I am sure I have used the incorrect nomenclature there somehow.

Never been to a casino have ye.

Spanish Eyes · 30-11-2019 10:32pm

BDI wrote: »

Never been to a casino have ye.

Have to admit that I haven't, Nor would I want to either! Guessing they are dens of iniquity.

I read somewhere that non drinkers or druggies take to the casinos.

So everybody hurts...... sometimes!

Junkyard Tom · 30-11-2019 10:33pm

These Chinese lads are starting to tikka the piss, they need a good kick in the ghee.

beejee · 30-11-2019 10:44pm

Chinese rings and jap eyes. I didn't ask for this, and I won't miss it when it's gone either

Zirconia · 30-11-2019 10:49pm

They still hate anyone mentioning the Tiananmen Square Massacre; never happened - mention it in China and you'll disappear. Most Chinese don't know anything about it. It was the 30 year anniversary this year!

I think a statue of Tank Man should be placed outside the Chinese embassy in Dublin!

whiskeyman · 30-11-2019 10:49pm

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

These Chinese lads are starting to tikka the piss, they need a good kick in the ghee.

I think you need to take away your misplaced country puns.
Naan of those work.

Junkyard Tom · 30-11-2019 10:55pm

whiskeyman wrote: »

I think you need to take away your misplaced country puns.
Naan of those work.

My Chinese puns might be a bit all over the place but things cannoli get better.

whiskeyman · 30-11-2019 11:00pm

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

My Chinese puns might be a bit all over the place but things cannoli get better.

You're not going to pasta test my pun chum.

ILoveYourVibes · 01-12-2019 3:33am

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Irish Times has a scoop this evening on the Chinese, a great bunch of lads.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/asia-pacific/china-has-a-lot-of-spies-in-ireland-activists-claim-1.4097005

:cool:

This isn't news nor is it new. They are here to spy on expats and their movements partic if they go to the uk alot.

Actually its often a question within the irish chinese community as to how many generations they spy on people. There are some people whose parents or grandparents where from china but they are from here etc. They still feel the presence of the state particularly on social media.

10000maniacs · 01-12-2019 4:15am

It's ok. They infiltrated Dail Eireann looking for intelligence. They then flew out on the next plane.

Raconteuse · 01-12-2019 4:39am

Only this week I watched a documentary (Panorama, BBC) about the camps that people are being sent to for re-education. Frightening stuff. Really shocking.

An Ri rua · 01-12-2019 4:40am

Felix Jones is God. wrote: »

Dr Quirkys was a well known hangout for some nasty Chinese individuals.

Sum Phat Pong, he was a right git

GrumpyMe · 01-12-2019 7:28am

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

...Guessing they are dens of iniquity...

More dens of inequity - odds favour the house!:D

uck51js9zml2yt · 01-12-2019 8:44am

TG4 keeps talking about s Chinese guy called Fan Linn and his cousin SEO Linn

branie2 · 01-12-2019 9:07am

The Chinese - a great bunch of lads

touts · 01-12-2019 10:22am

You think they are doing anything the Americans, Russians and Brits (to name but a few) haven't been doing for years. Data is the new oil and Dublin has become the new Arabia with all the technology companies based there. I'd be surprised if there is any embassy in the city that didn't have a large active "intelligence" department working in it.

And as I type this on a Chinese made phone using American Made Software, over a mobile network owned by a British company with major Russian shareholders I say I see nothing at all wrong with a little spying. Nothing at all. No need to put me on any list.

whisky_galore · 01-12-2019 10:38am

branie2 wrote: »

The Chinese - a great bunch of spies

Fyp

biko · 01-12-2019 10:44am

TheValeyard · 01-12-2019 10:53am

biko wrote: »

Hitler is the odd one out. Rest are communists.

Kermit.de.frog · 01-12-2019 10:55am

Hitler was "National Socialist" - own him.

Fiery mutant · 01-12-2019 10:55am

I wouldn’t trust them at all. I know the Russians and Americans can be bad, but it would be the Chinese I would worry about.

I can see this Taiwan issue coming to a head soon too.

Kermit.de.frog · 01-12-2019 10:57am

Chairman Mao. The Chairman of the Communist Party of China. One of the biggest communist parties in the world, and in my view, the best.

TheValeyard · 01-12-2019 10:59am

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Hitler was "National Socialist" - own him.

Suppose trying eliminating all those German socialists and communists was just a big misunderstanding, and invading Russia was just him trying to connect to other fellow socialists

Yamanoto · 01-12-2019 11:30am

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

They are work animals really. And very observant of our laws.

Many appear quite fond of overstaying on a Student Visa, working more hours than is allowed under the terms of their stamp and entering the country with the purpose of living here long-term.

touts · 01-12-2019 11:49am

biko wrote: »

Odd one out??? Let's see: They are all monsters. They are all mass killers with millions of victims. They all spouted hateful ideology. Oh wait I got it.

Hitler. He is the only one without a fan base in the Dail today.

corner of hells · 01-12-2019 11:55am

TheValeyard wrote: »

Hitler is the odd one out. Rest are communists.

They all made poplar their own style of haircut too.

Harry Palmr · 01-12-2019 12:00pm

China is now a surveillance state, everyone with a phone now has to register that phone with face recognition technology - you are your phone and your phone is you. And they are watching both.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-50587098

People in China are now required to have their faces scanned when registering new mobile phone services, as the authorities seek to verify the identities of the country's hundreds of millions of internet users.

The regulation, announced in September, was due to come into effect on Sunday.
The government says it wants to "protect the legitimate rights and interest of citizens in cyberspace".

China already uses facial recognition technology to survey its population. It is a world leader in such technologies, but their intensifying use across the country in recent years has sparked debate.

and this is Orwellian

China is often described as a surveillance state - in 2017 it had 170 million CCTV cameras in place across the country with the goal of installing an estimated 400 million new ones by 2020.
The country is also setting up a "social credit" system to keep score of the conduct and public interactions of all its citizens in one database.

The aim is that by 2020, everyone in China will be enrolled in a vast national database that compiles fiscal and government information to give a "ranking" for each citizen.

steves2 · 01-12-2019 12:30pm

We have Chinese neighbors, a young family. Very nice, keep to themselves you don't see them out too much. One thing I noticed was that everything is all about China, most conversations end up being about China and how great it is, never critical in any way of the home country and never talk about Ireland even though they've a good quality of life here. The possible surveillance might explain all of that. Can only imagine the manpower and technology needed to keep an eye on over a billion people .

Beechwoodspark · 01-12-2019 12:32pm

I’ve been told similar by a friend who teaches Chinese ppl in an English language college.

Says that the students others refer to discreetly as spies often have very high tech flashy laptops etc which seems out of place given they are fairly poor students on the surface.

corner of hells · 01-12-2019 12:50pm

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

I’ve been told similar by a friend who teaches Chinese ppl in an English language college.

Says that the students others refer to discreetly as spies often have very high tech flashy laptops etc which seems out of place given they are fairly poor students on the surface.

Imagine being recruited into the Chinese secret service and sent to Ireland , then having to report back to your superiors.

Yeah boss , they all love "Chinese food", bought a printer for 1.8million , have a great compensation culture.

Yeah but did you find any state secrets, "no , they have none".

Go back and do your job properly.

biko · 01-12-2019 2:10pm

https://twitter.com/IntyPython/status/1200466904734785536

Chinese version of democracy

rossie1977 · 01-12-2019 2:32pm

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Hitler was "National Socialist" - own him.

And North Koreas official name is 'Democratic' People's Republic of Korea

AndrewJRenko · 01-12-2019 3:18pm

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

I’ve been told similar by a friend who teaches Chinese ppl in an English language college.

Says that the students others refer to discreetly as spies often have very high tech flashy laptops etc which seems out of place given they are fairly poor students on the surface.

They'd hardly be here if they were 'fairly poor students' would they? Presumably their families are 'the elite' back home to be able to afford to send the kids here and put them through college?

Woke Hogan · 01-12-2019 3:42pm

There's a fair few people in here feigning surprise at the Chinese government being tyrannical, as if this website is crawling with CPC sympathisers.

4068ac1elhodqr · 01-12-2019 3:49pm

Harry Palmr wrote: »

China is now a surveillance state, everyone with a phone now has to register that phone with face recognition technology - you are your phone and your phone is you. And they are watching both.

This is crazy, normal street level FRS can be somewhat bypassed through various means, but this is a shocking development.

On the other hand, most of the West can't wait to (pay for) an 'all listening' (soon: 'all seeing') box that they place in the centre of their home.

suicide_circus · 01-12-2019 3:56pm

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Xi was a natural at the hurling when he was here

President4Life

TheValeyard · 01-12-2019 5:38pm

corner of hells wrote: »

They all made poplar their own style of haircut too.

Did the Asian dictators not go for beards?

Chris_Heilong · 01-12-2019 6:45pm

There are some here on the government payroll but only the likes of those in the Confucius institute, who's primary goal is to promote Chinese culture and relations abroad, if there is a big anti China demonstration or something they will mount a counter protest but it is not as nefarious as the paper is making out.
The vast majority of Chinese people have nothing to do with government policy, they will defend their Government/country yes but they are not a very political people and just care about getting on with life, If someone was crap talking Ireland I would defend it too but unlike myself their education system is similar to the US with all the praise the flag BS so it is even stronger in a lot of ways. Also when a paper says "activists claim..." and base a whole article on said claim it is really something that should be taken with a large pinch of salt. Without hard facts all you have is media talking to activists and it all starts sounding like the blaming Russia on being involved in everything you do not like all over again. If you do not like something then fair enough but do not let ignorance be ones primary reason for the dislike.

Muahahaha · 01-12-2019 8:34pm

Chinas secret service just got caught out by the Australian secret service trying to recruit a Chinese-Australian national called Nick Zhao to run for election to their parliament. Zhao approached the Australian police and told them of the plot, a few days later he was found dead in unexplained circumstances.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-50541082

biko · 01-12-2019 9:16pm

Big Chinese spy ring in Ireland

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