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Heating oil big drop

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 537 ✭✭✭geographica


    Put some timber on the back of the tank to allow the oil get closer the out pipe, it’ll do you till you sort out your purchase (make sure it’s steady)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,892 ✭✭✭deezell


    Before you do, open the drain on back end and catch a little in a clear container, like a cut off water bottle. If you see water or sludge under the fuel you draw off, be careful as tilting the tank could raise the sediment/water/sludge lying below the out connection sufficiently to enter the fuel flow. Not good news for your burner, which could cut out, necessitating bleeding and clearing of the last stage trap and filter, or even the feed line back to the tank. That unusable last inch in the tank is there for a reason. Far better to just buy 20l in a drum once or twice from a forecourt who sells kero from a pump, or ready filled in 20/40 l drums. It's what I've done when delivery times were overly long.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,607 ✭✭✭wassie


    +1

    Ask any farmer if they have any empty chemical drums. I did this and the farmer was more than happy to give away his rubbish - just make sure you give them a good clean! I picked up 4x25L drums and use them for this exact purpose. Its my 100L emergency reserve.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 632 ✭✭✭waxmelts2000


    ordered from east cork oil 500 litres €510



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,304 ✭✭✭✭muffler


    Cheapestoil.ie shows 6 suppliers cheaper than that



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 632 ✭✭✭waxmelts2000


    yes I know but I have a monthly standing order with them to put money on my account and have it there



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭Gooser14


    Don't do that as it will push all the dirt & water to the outlet pipe end of the tank. The reason for the tank sloping away from the outlet pipe s to prevent dirt & water getting into the outlet pipe.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,937 ✭✭✭con747


    It could also cause a tank to fail if any structural defects on the base if you fill it up with and leave it raised off the base at one end. A costly clean up for a few quid of possibly dirty oil.

    Don't expect anything from life, just be grateful to be alive.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 537 ✭✭✭geographica




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,580 ✭✭✭jmreire


    At one stage in my Life, installing generators and fuel tanks was a part of my job, and it was standard practice to have the end of the tank where the outlet pipe was to be raised higher than the drain end. And if you believe that your method is the correct one, and so far, you have never had a problem with it, touch wood!! You have been lucky. Another thing that I usually do is never turn on the heating either while the tank is being filled, or for several hours afterwards to allow everything to settle. Believe me, cleaning out fuel lines and filters, and bleeding the air out, is not the kind of job that you want to be doing on a Sunday afternoon, or in the evening after work. You can trust me on that!!!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,640 ✭✭✭RINO87


    Looks like its taken an uptick again. Time to bite the bullet and fill for winter methinks. Whats the latest Certa code again? "FLO Something….."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,937 ✭✭✭con747


    Don't expect anything from life, just be grateful to be alive.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,170 ✭✭✭deep1




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,640 ✭✭✭RINO87


    Thanks, used to used that one. I recall the FLO one was a larger discount? Maybe I was dreaming….



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,892 ✭✭✭deezell


    When it comes to oil prices, we all dream, about €600 for 1000L fills. *Sigh..



  • Registered Users Posts: 488 ✭✭septicsac


    Almost 300 Euro in the difference of 1000L in the north compared to the South at the minute, averaging about 1 euro a litre here while its averaging at 60 pence a litre in the north, serious gap at the moment.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,892 ✭✭✭deezell


    Convert to €, 19%, remove their 5% vat, add 14.2c carbon tax, add our 13.5%VAT, thats ((60×1.19÷1.05)+14.18)
    ×1.135 is 93.27c litre. Which is still 7c cheaper than our current price.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,052 ✭✭✭Pique


    You guys are getting false hopes up by posting in here, as am I now. Oops...



  • Registered Users Posts: 250 ✭✭Banjo Carney


    Yazz and the plastic population had a song about the current oil price situation many moons ago



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,892 ✭✭✭deezell


    Too true. I think the trade are delighted it breached €1, they're never going to go below that, as they now have an established cartel floor price in people's heads. One point something euro. That was always a sneaky trick in retail, use some dodgy excuse to pass the significant digit of a price, like once you get past €10 say, the journey to 19 is a doddle. There was always controversy in the 70s when the chippers upped the price of a single. 'Because of new potatoes cost'. It never went down when the spuds went old and spotty, and were animal feed prices. And don't talk to me about the restaurant price for a €6 (from the warehouse) bottle of cheap house wine. It's already passed €30 in many establishments.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,843 ✭✭✭Buffman


    Just a reminder if you're running on MGO that duty is going back up tomorrow. (Not for Kerosene)

    Road fuel duty also going back up tomorrow.

    FYI, if you move to a 'smart' meter electricity plan, you CAN'T move back to a non-smart plan.

    You don't have to take a 'smart' meter if you don't want one, opt-out is available.

    Buy drinks in 3L or bigger plastic bottles or glass bottles or cartons to avoid the DRS fee.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,801 ✭✭✭snowgal


    can get 1000l for 890 with Leinster petroleum, that’s around cheapest I’ve seen in long time, may might the bullet!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 761 ✭✭✭Agent_47


    yeah, but 500l is 480, I need 800 litres and seeing quotes for 768, they are quoting the 96 cent a litre as opposed to 89.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,843 ✭✭✭Buffman


    Normally 'odd' amounts like 800l don't get an automatic rate reduction/discount like 500l or 1000l online, either ring them up to haggle a price on the phone or get some spare containers to take the extra 200l and get 1000l for around the current price of 89cpl.

    FYI, if you move to a 'smart' meter electricity plan, you CAN'T move back to a non-smart plan.

    You don't have to take a 'smart' meter if you don't want one, opt-out is available.

    Buy drinks in 3L or bigger plastic bottles or glass bottles or cartons to avoid the DRS fee.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,699 ✭✭✭Gusser09


    I dislike putting 1000L in the tank to be honest. I'll go for 700 this week. Just wondering if I should wait another couple of weeks to see if there is further reduction.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,736 ✭✭✭pawrick


    for info. I just double checked and WRK30 and FLO30 are still working for CERTA and offer the same amount of discount (15 off 500 litres and 30 off 1000 litres). Better than the pop up discount WARM15 on the site right now which is 15 per 1000 litres pro rata when applied.




  • Registered Users Posts: 450 ✭✭StonedRaider


    My first fill since circa July/Aug 2020 @ 43c/lit

    €420 for a 500l self service fill. Circle K Strabane @€0.84/lit. Could have got it a little cheaper if I went deeper into Strabane but didn't bother.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,843 ✭✭✭Buffman


    Ye, bit cheaper over in Derrynoose at €0.699/l. Unfortunately a bit further from you than Strabane I guess!

    FYI, if you move to a 'smart' meter electricity plan, you CAN'T move back to a non-smart plan.

    You don't have to take a 'smart' meter if you don't want one, opt-out is available.

    Buy drinks in 3L or bigger plastic bottles or glass bottles or cartons to avoid the DRS fee.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,347 ✭✭✭JVince


    Double check the price per litre. For some reason distributors charge a lot more per litre is you order outside their standard 300l 500l and 1000l order point.

    eg capital oil 700L = 735 (1.05 per L), 500L = €483 (96.6c/L)

    and also 1000L = €925 (92.5c) buy order 900L and they'll actually charge you more at €945!!!

    So always look at the per litre cost no matter what quantity you are looking at and always check the 300L, 500L and 1000L price as they are probably the best options



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,289 ✭✭✭Hippodrome Song Owl


    Can you order 500l and separately 300l? That works out cheaper than one 800l order, but would they have an issue with this?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,347 ✭✭✭JVince


    I can't see why not or just leave a couple of days between them. I simply order 500l for various reasons including in case of theft as I'm rural. Tank is 1000L capacity, so would need to be near empty to get 1000L



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,699 ✭✭✭Gusser09


    Its still coming down anyway. I'll hold off as long as possible. Hopefully get 500l for closer to the 450 mark.



  • Registered Users Posts: 142 ✭✭hopgirl


    Has anyone a discount code for topoil? Thank you



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,843 ✭✭✭Buffman


    Why make it so complicated, just ring them to order and ask about it. You will very likely get the 1000l rate on an 800l order over the phone. If they won't, ring around until you find someone who will. The online systems won't allow for 'odd' amounts discounts most of the time so you need to talk to a human.

    FYI, if you move to a 'smart' meter electricity plan, you CAN'T move back to a non-smart plan.

    You don't have to take a 'smart' meter if you don't want one, opt-out is available.

    Buy drinks in 3L or bigger plastic bottles or glass bottles or cartons to avoid the DRS fee.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,734 ✭✭✭✭Bobeagleburger


    I always find ringing gets the best discounts.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 712 ✭✭✭POBox19


    Ordered 800 from Certa with WRK30 so €24 off and Tesco points too. Certa were the only one of 5 that I looked at to give a lower price on 800, net at €747. Capital were €840 for 800 or €758 if I ordered 500 and another 300.



  • Registered Users Posts: 488 ✭✭septicsac


    Under 60 cent a litre across the border, under 600E for 1000L while down here its still above 900E for the same amount, crazy difference for anyone close to the border.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,892 ✭✭✭deezell


    Change the vat from NI 5% to our 13 5% adds 5c, Add our carbon tax, 16c , its 81c, so the last 9c difference is gouging I presume



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 573 ✭✭✭jonnybravo


    Top Oil discount code SCHOOL25 for e25 discount off 1,000 litres - valid until tomorrow.



  • Registered Users Posts: 69 ✭✭LBF21


    Got 500l today for €463 from Click Oil. Cheapest for me in a good few years.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,009 ✭✭✭jkforde


    let the slide continue... 😁

    🌦️ 6.7kwp, 45°, SSW, mid-Galway 🌦️

    "Since I no longer expect anything from mankind except madness, meanness, and mendacity; egotism, cowardice, and self-delusion, I have stopped being a misanthrope." Irving Layton



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,682 ✭✭✭Glebee


    Cheapest home heating oil has been in the last two and a half years according to my records. Came close to current price April 2023. Of course my tank is over half full and if I only top it up the unit rate changes to make it push back up to normal price :(



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,892 ✭✭✭deezell


    I've about 160l usable in the bottom of 1100l tank. Timing just right, my target would October fill. It generally doesn't drop much more when late autumn demand starts, regardless of markets.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,796 ✭✭✭ablelocks


    from cheapestoil.ie

    sorted by 1000l prices - some price difference between Kerry and Dublin



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,734 ✭✭✭✭Bobeagleburger


    You'll always get cheaper if you ring. It's my experience anyway.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,879 ✭✭✭Simi


    Got 750 L from Certa for €660 with WRK30. Cheapest in years.

    Interestingly 750-900 is the cheapest per liter @ 0.91. 950-1000 is slightly more at 0.925.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,892 ✭✭✭deezell


    That's bizarre. I've noticed the County difference has shifted in my favour, and in Kildare 1000l+ is correctly the lower rate, 88.7c. Whereas Westmeath with the big Certa depot is dearer and has the 1000l+ higher price anomaly.

    For 1000l, €857 when I add (or subtract) the wrk30. Need to run the tank down a little more to squeeze it in. Maybe there's a few more cent to be had, I got car diesel yesterday for €1.60. Kero is usually a good bit behind the pumps. I'm good for at least a fortnight, or before budget carbon bollox tax increase.



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,672 ✭✭✭obi604


    looking to buy a fill of oil……. Buy now or wait another week or 2?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,892 ✭✭✭deezell


    The carbon tax will be instantaneous in the budget, so you'll have a few weeks. A cold snap will hoosh up demand, but this weather is in our favour, the suppliers will be anxious to shift stock soon and make a few quid, so I'd say you'll see a few cent more off till it gets cold.

    Why is it we pay the most for energy? Electricity, gas, heating, car fuel, a bag of coal, It's like they can't think of enough ways to add taxes, with excise, vat, then levys, carbon tax, wind subsidies, and of course, general rip-off of standing charges, and smart meter peak rates. All this while the ESB pisses away €400M of our payments on a dud windfarm offshore in Scotland, that'll never pay for itself, and not a cent went into our economy (except maybe the business classs flights and restaurant expenses of the executives who dispensed almost half a billion).

    I have to laugh at the hubbub over house prices, they're a perfect barometer of greedflation, with every business from corporation to chip shop jumping on the wagon. A local near me posted on FB last week, a measly bag of half chips and half scraps/trimmings, €4.40 in Macaris. For a single of chips.

    €857/1000L. D'ya want chips with that?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,315 ✭✭✭CoBo55


    Oookay, somebody needs a snickers at 5:53am🫣



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