Thoughts on billionaire businessman Donald Trump?

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

Pure conspiracy nonsense. For the above to be in any way true Russian banks would have to have been his major source of funding for the best part of 20 years.

I love that hector thanked that post. It seems i was far too subtle.

Dakota Tender Radius wrote: »

Dunno why you think that. All sorts of leverage they could have. Pee pee tape is one possibility. There is evidence he has received significant money from them though.

I really am far too subtle for my own good. I need to turn the sarcasm up.

I hate that being liberal is now akin to being a wuss. I just want the vulnerable in society taken care of. I think I have the final say in what happens to my own body. I think you can't have a knicker fit over immigration when the whole basis of your country is based on people showing up without invitation.

This maniac doesn't actually care about anyone except himself and his inflated ego. He doesn't give a crap about his country, just himself and his interests.

You're a fool if you think otherwise.

the American economy is going well at the moment so he must be doing something right, I can see him easy winning a second term as most people vote with their pockets..

oceanman wrote: »

so he must be doing something right

Yep.. It's really simple..

Just like he promised, he's putting his country and his people first..

Enda and Leo both promised us the same but it's a quality that's deeply lacking in our politicians who all look to Berlin and Brussels for their orders and have no issue giving our money away to foreign banks and bondholders and those within our own country who least deserve it.

It's only a matter of time before a Trump like figure fills the void here.

Casey's jump from 2% to 23% in a week quite clearly demonstrated that.

If it pisses off the perpetually offended, they'll get my vote.

Billy Mays wrote: »

Apparently the man who has literally told thousands of lies since he became president "tells it like it is"

He said he'd put America first.

So he's putting America first.

You mightn't like it, but it seems a growing number of Americans do..

And come election time, that's all that matters

Financially speaking, he is not a self made man. He is all hat, no cattle. He is asset rich but not cash rich.

His father was the real deal. He got involved with the family business, property development. Trump had what is termed a bull market for brains. NY real estate from the late 70's through the 80's experienced direct investment and experienced a boom. He also benefited from a 'small' loan from his old man and was ahead of the curve using that to leverage himself up to almost a billion dollars. His skill as it were was his nagging persistence into negotiating lucrative tax breaks on his property developments. This was what became his modus operandi of the art of the deal. He effectively took over as the front of his father's business, which he mostly inherited, and for which Fred was more than happy with considering his own nefarious and corrupt background.

When the inevitable happened with the economy tanking in the late 80's, he was bankrupt but realized the maxim that if you owe the bank a million it's your problem but if you owe them 100 million it's their problem was now in effect. The banks, standing to lose vast sums, sat tight and endured the downturn, writing off the hefty interest rates on Trumps loans who threatened to default and declare bankruptcy. Trump, a master at self promotion, exploited their decision to sit on the assets and loans and marketed this as the art of the comeback.

Through the 90's and into the recovery and another boom, it was wash, rinse and repeat for Trump however the banks had learned their lesson and so his property business went abroad for even more leverage as he was deemed toxic with domestic banks.

So while privately he inherited a fortune and is regarded as a buffoon, publicly he honed and perfected the image of a cut throat, no nonsense business man negotiating million dollar deals for breakfast. He is the pop culture image of what a millionaire/billionaire is to the public i.e. gold taps, opulent mansions, helicopter rides to Manhattan, the uber confident sales patter, the beautiful wife, the blonde mistress with gigantic fake tits. All of it being impression management. I've always thought that a bully bullies other because they have something tangible which the bully does not have. I believe in Trumps case it amounts to no more than simple and genuine respect. He wants it and needs it but he has never gotten it from those he wants it from. The public and strangers to him might respect him for the image he's cultivated but he has never gotten it from the self made's who see through his bull**** completely. Even up to becoming POTUS hasn't earned him that respect. He is still regarded as a buffoon.

oceanman wrote: »

the American economy is going well at the moment so he must be doing something right, I can see him easy winning a second term as most people vote with their pockets..

The economy goes in cycles.

Idbatterim wrote:

He gets stuff done, unlike our shower of talking wasters. The trolley crisis back in the news now as usual. Housing crisis... The usual stuff that has been talked about here for decades and no change

He gets fcuk all done, a large proportion of Americans are struggling with large amounts of debt, with student debt heading towards 2 trillion! Many with very little health care cover, many working low paid jobs, sometimes more than one, in order to survive, this administration is just accelerating inequalities and further increasing worker insecurity, getting stuff done, me hole!

Yeah, politics.