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Leinster Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread X: [****]

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  • #4952
    Bubblegummers
    Registered Users Posts: 282 ✭✭Bubblegummers


    RockBoysarewii wrote: »
    What’s the attendance like?

    It’s ok, not what I expected.


  • #4953
    salmocab
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,413 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    Poor enough attendance, say a few put off by the weather talk which turned out to be grand.


  • #4954
    Clegg
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,225 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    Bath tried to play a bit but looked extremely uncomfortable when they sped up the game. They're not a particularly good side. Leinster were comfortable but I don't think they're playing their best either. Need to go up a level for Toulouse at the RDS.

    Last year we played extremely well against Exeter in the double header and in the interpros post Christmas. Don't think we're as good this year. Still time to improve though.


  • #4955
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    Clegg wrote: »
    Bath tried to play a bit but looked extremely uncomfortable when they sped up the game. They're not a particularly good side. Leinster were comfortable but I don't think they're playing their best either. Need to go up a level for Toulouse at the RDS.

    Last year we played extremely well against Exeter in the double header and in the interpros post Christmas. Don't think we're as good this year. Still time to improve though.


    Exeter away was good


    Exeter at home last year was really a match Leinster could have lost. We got rail roaded for the first half by Exeter


  • #4956
    Clegg
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,225 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    Clegg wrote: »
    Bath tried to play a bit but looked extremely uncomfortable when they sped up the game. They're not a particularly good side. Leinster were comfortable but I don't think they're playing their best either. Need to go up a level for Toulouse at the RDS.

    Last year we played extremely well against Exeter in the double header and in the interpros post Christmas. Don't think we're as good this year. Still time to improve though.


    Exeter away was good


    Exeter at home last year was really a match Leinster could have lost. We got rail roaded for the first half by Exeter
    First half we were off the boil but that second half is up there with Northampton 2011 quality wise. For me we haven't hit that same level this season.


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  • #4957
    durkadurka
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,207 ✭✭✭durkadurka


    So two wins, denying Toulouse a bp, gives us home qf.


  • #4958
    Clegg
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,225 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    RoL played well, but I don't think he was our best player tonight. He should definitely be our starting 12 while Henshaw is out though. He's not in Henshaw's class but is a much more physically imposing player than Reid.

    MotM should have went to one of Ryan, Toner, Lowe or Larmour.


  • #4959
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    durkadurka wrote: »
    So two wins, denying Toulouse a bp, gives us home qf.


    Wasps are out and in a bit of a struggle in Premiership so I would expect them to play a weakened team


    I would hope for a bonus point win


    Toulouse are weak defensively. Great in broken play so really could do with a dry day in RDS


    I think a full RDS and really get place rocking and they could give up the ghost....hopefully


  • #4960
    Podge_irl
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 27,321 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    durkadurka wrote: »
    So two wins, denying Toulouse a bp, gives us home qf.

    Two wins and beating Toulouse by 2+ points gives us a home QF


  • #4961
    durkadurka
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,207 ✭✭✭durkadurka


    Podge_irl wrote: »
    Two wins and beating Toulouse by 2+ points gives us a home QF

    Not necessarily. They could get a try bonus plus a losing bonus then get five points off bath, giving them 24. Needing us requiring a try bonus somewhere


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  • #4962
    Podge_irl
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 27,321 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    durkadurka wrote: »
    Not necessarily. They could get a try bonus plus a losing bonus then get five points off bath, giving them 24. Needing us requiring a try bonus somewhere

    I admire the pedantry of this. Yes, that could happen - though fairly unlikely! We only need to deny them two BP really.


  • #4963
    durkadurka
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,207 ✭✭✭durkadurka


    Podge_irl wrote: »
    I admire the pedantry of this. Yes, that could happen - though fairly unlikely! We only need to deny them two BP really.

    Such is the glory of this competition!

    So revised scenario: two wins , restricting Toulouse to one bp, and a margin of victory of 2+ gives us home quarter.


  • #4964
    Serbian
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,163 ✭✭✭Serbian


    Clegg wrote: »
    RoL played well, but I don't think he was our best player tonight. He should definitely be our starting 12 while Henshaw is out though. He's not in Henshaw's class but is a much more physically imposing player than Reid.

    MotM should have went to one of Ryan, Toner, Lowe or Larmour.

    Yeah, agreed, was very surprised with his selection as MotM. Toner was excellent and would probably have been my choice. Made 20 tackles and called well for a pretty solid line out. Didn’t carry so well, but was fine in that area. I think anyone in the tight five could have gotten it almost.


  • #4965
    durthacht
    Registered Users Posts: 733 ✭✭✭durthacht


    As O'Loughlin is likely to start at 12 in rounds five and six, should Leinster start him there in the coming league matches?

    Conor O'Brien has been impressive at 12 so it would be tough on him to miss out, but as he is unlikely to start in the Champions Cup then I guess we might be expecting 12. O'Loughlin and 13. Jimmy O'Brien over the Christmas period?

    I wonder is O'Loughlin a long term back up for both 12 and 13. He seemed impressive yesterday.

    Thoughts?


  • #4966
    Faugheen
    Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    I imagine he'll get a game over the Christmas, but it'll be a Jordi Murphy-like situation where I don't think we can really afford any risk he'll get injured.


  • #4967
    Dubinusa
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,619 ✭✭✭Dubinusa


    I'm expecting Ringrose to get some rest. He's played a lot this past 2 months. I reckon we'll get Reid and ROL in center next week.
    RK should be back for the weekend, so Larmour might be rested.


  • #4968
    Rigor Mortis
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,914 ✭✭✭Rigor Mortis


    Are the Tolouse tickets sold out or have they gone on sale yet.


  • #4969
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    Rigor Mortis wrote: »
    Are the Tolouse tickets sold out or have they gone on sale yet.




    I doubt they have gone on sale to general public....season ticket holders will have option first to buy tickets....First year without season ticket so no idea if that sale has started yet


  • #4970
    sydthebeat
    Subscribers Posts: 41,863 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    I doubt they have gone on sale to general public....season ticket holders will have option first to buy tickets....First year without season ticket so no idea if that sale has started yet

    Sold out I think.

    They definitely have already been on general sale.

    Edit : leinster are waiting to see if toulouse send back any unsold


  • #4971
    Synode
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,967 ✭✭✭Synode


    sydthebeat wrote: »
    Sold out I think.

    They definitely have already been on general sale.

    Edit : leinster are waiting to see if toulouse send back any unsold

    Yeah they went on sale to STH in early November


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  • #4972
    errlloyd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,616 ✭✭✭✭errlloyd


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    Rigor Mortis wrote: »
    Are the Tolouse tickets sold out or have they gone on sale yet.




    I doubt they have gone on sale to general public....season ticket holders will have option first to buy tickets....First year without season ticket so no idea if that sale has started yet

    They were on general sale two or three weeks a go. Only north and south stand.


  • #4973
    Buer
    Registered Users Posts: 24,258 ✭✭✭✭Buer


    I'm not sure how we'll approach the interpros. I don't think we'll see a full strength selection at any point. Mixing and matching is probably the likely approach with the bulk of the first team getting a run out against Ulster to gel things ahead of the Toulouse visit.

    For this weekend, I could see something like Byrne, Tracy, Porter, Fardy, Molony, Ruddock, Penny, Deegan/Doris, JGP, Byrne, Kearney, COB/Reid, ROL, Byrne, Keenan.

    Bring a few lads back in for the trip to Limerick such as Toner, Cronin, Leavy and Larmour and then go with a stronger side again when facing Ulster. Hopefully Jack McGrath is fit enough to take a spot on the bench before Toulouse.


  • #4974
    Clegg
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,225 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    I'm convinced that last year's Christmas interpros gave the squad the belief they could win everything. It was incredible seeing a mixture of fringe players, first teamers and academy guys take apart Ulster and then Munster at Thomond. This time round things will be harder though. Our squad is deeper than last season's but so is Ulster's and Munster are desperate for a victory over us.

    Win the home games and it'll be fine.


  • #4975
    arsebiscuits1
    Registered Users Posts: 3,719 ✭✭✭arsebiscuits1


    durthacht wrote: »
    As O'Loughlin is likely to start at 12 in rounds five and six, should Leinster start him there in the coming league matches?

    Conor O'Brien has been impressive at 12 so it would be tough on him to miss out, but as he is unlikely to start in the Champions Cup then I guess we might be expecting 12. O'Loughlin and 13. Jimmy O'Brien over the Christmas period?

    I wonder is O'Loughlin a long term back up for both 12 and 13. He seemed impressive yesterday.

    Thoughts?

    ROL deputised very well at 12 when he replaced Isa much earlier than expected in 2 games towards the end of last season.

    There were a lot of question marks over his defense last year which he has certainly answered since.

    I think adding 12 to his locker really gives him an excellent chance at playing higher level rugby consistently.

    As for the Xmas interpros and beyond. ROL is firmly in the 12 jersey for me until Robbie is back. But it is his to lose.

    A big performance from COB (who I think is guaranteed good minutes save for injury over Xmas) in Ravenhill or Thomond will really put pressure on ROL.

    As inexperienced as COB is, it's hard to beat a team with a 12 who gets genuine front foot ball and he is some man for that.


  • #4976
    stephen_n
    Registered Users Posts: 12,920 ✭✭✭✭stephen_n


    arsebiscuits1 wrote: »
    ROL deputised very well at 12 when he replaced Isa much earlier than expected in 2 games towards the end of last season.

    There were a lot of question marks over his defense last year which he has certainly answered since.

    I think adding 12 to his locker really gives him an excellent chance at playing higher level rugby consistently.

    As for the Xmas interpros and beyond. ROL is firmly in the 12 jersey for me until Robbie is back. But it is his to lose.

    A big performance from COB (who I think is guaranteed good minutes save for injury over Xmas) in Ravenhill or Thomond will really put pressure on ROL.

    As inexperienced as COB is, it's hard to beat a team with a 12 who gets genuine front foot ball and he is some man for that.

    He seems far more comfortable defending at 12 than 13, though that could be to do with who he has inside him and outside, when he plays 12 and 13. Having Ringrose there must make it easier to mind his own role. A lot of the time he played 13 last season was with Reid at 12. Though they can both tackle, they don’t seem to match well in defense in terms of reading the game and trusting each other.


  • #4977
    troyzer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,201 ✭✭✭troyzer


    Looks like Barry Daly might be back in the next month or so.


  • #4978
    Dubinusa
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,619 ✭✭✭Dubinusa


    With Tom Daly gone away on loan, I would guess that COB most likely is getting a contract.
    Nagle is away on loan too and I presume he is going full tilt to get a contract for Ulster.
    I think Tom Daly would probably be better off going to England for a year or so. I can't see him featuring much for Connacht.
    Any updates on Reid?


  • #4979
    Burkie1203
    Registered Users Posts: 11,790 ✭✭✭✭Burkie1203


    https://twitter.com/Murray_Kinsella/status/1075068806949756930?s=19


  • #4980
    Annalee Gifted Racket
    Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ Annalee Gifted Racket


    troyzer wrote: »
    Looks like Barry Daly might be back in the next month or so.

    Excellent news.


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  • #4981
    WoollyRedHat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,462 ✭✭✭✭WoollyRedHat


    Does anyone know where I can get 2 tickets for Saturday's game? I'm getting quoted 35 euro for cheapest ticket on their website.


  • #4982
    The Lost Sheep
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭The Lost Sheep


    WoollyRedHat wrote: »
    Does anyone know where I can get 2 tickets for Saturday's game? I'm getting quoted 35 euro for cheapest ticket on their website.
    You wont find tickets cheaper than that. Its an interpro and the tickets on leinster site are likely last ones available as ground will be a sell out


  • #4983
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    WoollyRedHat wrote: »
    Does anyone know where I can get 2 tickets for Saturday's game? I'm getting quoted 35 euro for cheapest ticket on their website.

    Someone posted the scrum cap on the Connacht forum earlier so probably a bunch there not going anymore.


  • #4984
    WoollyRedHat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,462 ✭✭✭✭WoollyRedHat


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Someone posted the scrum cap on the Connacht forum earlier so probably a bunch there not going anymore.

    Sorry how do you mean?


  • #4985
    dregin
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 6,524 Mod ✭✭✭✭dregin


    WoollyRedHat wrote: »
    Sorry how do you mean?
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=108913326&postcount=1338


  • #4986
    Podge_irl
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 27,321 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    Relatively sure 35 was the cheapest ticket anyway.


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  • #4987
    Random Bloke
    Registered Users Posts: 73 ✭✭Random Bloke


    I have a feeling that the Toulouse game could have a bit of niggle in it. Toulouse may look at how Castres got one over Munster last weekend. The All Blacks did it after Chicago as well. Irish teams tend to play clean and focus on low penalty counts, and rely on the referee to keep the opposition in line.

    Hopefully I'm wrong, but we haven't really been tested by opposition who try to rough things up, other than late hits on Sexton. Hopefully our preparation for the game will make sure that the team don't get rattled, if it happens. We are in the RDS with a vocal support, which will also help.


  • #4988
    Annalee Gifted Racket
    Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ Annalee Gifted Racket


    Random Bloke wrote: »
    I have a feeling that the Toulouse game could have a bit of niggle in it. Toulouse may look at how Castres got one over Munster last weekend. The All Blacks did it after Chicago as well. Irish teams tend to play clean and focus on low penalty counts, and rely on the referee to keep the opposition in line.

    Hopefully I'm wrong, but we haven't really been tested by opposition who try to rough things up, other than late hits on Sexton. Hopefully our preparation for the game will make sure that the team don't get rattled, if it happens. We are in the RDS with a vocal support, which will also help.

    If Toulouse decide to put their energy into niggle they will get beaten out the gate imo.


  • #4989
    troyzer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,201 ✭✭✭troyzer


    Finley Short Shin wrote: »
    If Toulouse decide to put their energy into niggle they will get beaten out the gate imo.

    Agree. Toulouse have been great so far this campaign based on their back play and old fashioned forward grunt. If they completely change tact and resort to ****housery they'll get battered. All they can do is play their game and hope for the best.

    I really wish it wasn't a 13:00 kickoff, it sucks the life out of some games. This should be a Friday night showdown. Not that it matters, I'm sure the RDS will be rocking. But you lose something with a 13:00 kickoff.


  • #4990
    First Up
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,823 ✭✭✭✭First Up


    troyzer wrote:
    I really wish it wasn't a 13:00 kickoff, it sucks the life out of some games. This should be a Friday night showdown. Not that it matters, I'm sure the RDS will be rocking. But you lose something with a 13:00 kickoff.

    Yeah, a shame. TV calling the shots again I'm afraid.


  • #4991
    AdamD
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,742 ✭✭✭✭AdamD


    Think we had a 1pm last season that had an incredible atmosphere


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  • #4992
    Rigor Mortis
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,914 ✭✭✭Rigor Mortis


    The atmosphere at this game will be cracking. Stakes > Kick off time


  • #4993
    First Up
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,823 ✭✭✭✭First Up


    Rigor Mortis wrote:
    The atmosphere at this game will be cracking. Stakes > Kick off time


    Stakes but no steaks. What about my lunch?


  • #4994
    arsebiscuits1
    Registered Users Posts: 3,719 ✭✭✭arsebiscuits1


    WoollyRedHat wrote: »
    Does anyone know where I can get 2 tickets for Saturday's game? I'm getting quoted 35 euro for cheapest ticket on their website.

    ... were you hoping for cheaper?

    Like Southern Kings cheapest tickets in the middle of the 6N are still €25.

    There is demand and frankly €35 is fairly good value


  • #4995
    stephen_n
    Registered Users Posts: 12,920 ✭✭✭✭stephen_n


    AdamD wrote: »
    Think we had a 1pm last season that had an incredible atmosphere

    Montpellier at home I think?


  • #4996
    Buer
    Registered Users Posts: 24,258 ✭✭✭✭Buer


    Decent piece with JGP in the Irish Times. Seems a fairly unassuming guy who has really bought into things here. Surprisingly, he hasn't returned to NZ once since departing so seems to have completely settled at this point but admitted that he struggled initially. He came over naively thinking he was going to be first choice but appears very happy with his role in the set up now and is assuming something of a leadership role in the group, particularly when the internationals are gone.

    Also noted that Ruddock has stepped into Nacewa's shoes as the leader in the squad alongside Sexton (which is precisely what one would expect/want).

    Very glad to have him at this point; 12 months ago the jury was completely out on him and he didn't seem to have really settled down at all. The Scarlets semi final at the end of his first season seems a very distant memory from the guy who has been one of our best players this season. 14 tries for Leinster so far which, for context, only Larmour and ROL have a better strike rate in terms of tries:minutes over the past 3 seasons.


  • #4997
    jonok28
    Registered Users Posts: 568 ✭✭✭jonok28


    Buer wrote: »
    Decent piece with JGP in the Irish Times. Seems a fairly unassuming guy who has really bought into things here. Surprisingly, he hasn't returned to NZ once since departing so seems to have completely settled at this point but admitted that he struggled initially. He came over naively thinking he was going to be first choice but appears very happy with his role in the set up now and is assuming something of a leadership role in the group, particularly when the internationals are gone.

    Also noted that Ruddock has stepped into Nacewa's shoes as the leader in the squad alongside Sexton (which is precisely what one would expect/want).

    Very glad to have him at this point; 12 months ago the jury was completely out on him and he didn't seem to have really settled down at all. The Scarlets semi final at the end of his first season seems a very distant memory from the guy who has been one of our best players this season. 14 tries for Leinster so far which, for context, only Larmour and ROL have a better strike rate in terms of tries:minutes over the past 3 seasons.

    Leinster are very lucky to have scrum halves like McGrath and JGP, the transition during a game when JGP comes on is relatively seamless, he has to be commended for buying into the team first mentality that Leinster have created, this season he has really stepped up his game and Nick McCarthy became completely expendable with his step up in play. Hopefully he continues to play at a high level for Leinster for years to come.


  • #4998
    Rigor Mortis
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,914 ✭✭✭Rigor Mortis


    Have been a fan of JGP from the start. Particularly as he generally plays most of his games with a second string. He has been our best fly half this year. I think we are getting close to a position, like the reddan and boss days, where we have two very decent scrum halves.


  • #4999
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    Rigor Mortis wrote: »
    Have been a fan of JGP from the start. Particularly as he generally plays most of his games with a second string. He has been our best fly half this year. I think we are getting close to a position, like the reddan and boss days, where we have two very decent scrum halves.


    Also was a fan as well. I said for a long time he would come on leaps and bounds if he got a run with Sexton. It doesn't take Sexton long to iron out a few of those errors in your game


    So far this season I think JGP really has been the form player but McGrath seems to be getting more gametime with Sexton.


  • #5000
    jonok28
    Registered Users Posts: 568 ✭✭✭jonok28


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    Also was a fan as well. I said for a long time he would come on leaps and bounds if he got a run with Sexton. It doesn't take Sexton long to iron out a few of those errors in your game


    So far this season I think JGP really has been the form player but McGrath seems to be getting more gametime with Sexton.

    I still think McGrath is the better player but not by much anymore, I'm not surprised McGrath is getting more of the game time, with McGrath and Sexton in the Irish set up, you need to have McGrath get as much game time with Sexton incase something was to happen to Murray.


  • #5001
    stephen_n
    Registered Users Posts: 12,920 ✭✭✭✭stephen_n


    JGP was excellent when he first arrived, towards the end of that season his performances tailed off though and then came the Scarlets game. Which colored a lot of peoples thinking on him. Last season, maybe the confidence knock, but he continued on from there. His biggest issue has always been his kicking game. His passing has always been excellent and his decision making is mostly good. He has clearly worked really hard on his kicking game though and I think that’s the bit that has made him so good this season. He is definitely on par with McGrath at this stage and that is brilliant for us.


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