SIRO - ESB/Vodafone Fibre To The Home

cunnijo · 19-11-2018 1:01pm

Marlow wrote: »

The fibre is fed down the same pipe as the ESB cable, if there is space. But sometimes, the ESB cable is either direct buried cable (no pipe at all) or there is no space.

As for an overhead install, the Actavo lads only bring it into the house. The work on the ESB pole is done by ESB network technicians. The typical scenario:

- Actavo or SIRO engineers arrive at house and find, that the DP is outside of permissible work environment. An O-ring bolt gets fitted on the house, where the overhead fibre is to come to the house.

- A build pack with all information is handed to ESB Networks, who then sends an ESB certified engineer out to bring enough fibre from the pole to the O-ring and leaves it there. This can take up to a month.

- The provider is notified, that this work has been completed and asked to reschedule with the customer, for Actavo to complete the installation.

- Actavo completes the installation.

So the Actavo engineers never go near the power lines.

/M

Thanks Marlow. I asked as I am experiencing this very issue. In my case the ESB cable is fed through a pipe from the pole to my ESB meter box and should be able to accommodate the fibre cable as it is about 4.5cm (2" wide). So there should be space (when the house was built the ESB supplied the pipe, as the pole was on a footpath close to Naas town where I live). As you mention the Actavo crews do not go near the overhead power lines which means a line engineer from the ESB will have to feed the fibre into the box as the top of the pipe is close to the power lines. So potentially it could be 2019 before the install will happen if at all even though I ordered the service from Digiweb on October 1st.

Mr. TTime · 28-11-2018 3:46pm

The Actavo ground crew sorted out my duct today - a few weeks behind schedule but happy that it is sorted

now waiting for the next crew to arrive and connect me up. There is a loop of cable waiting outside the meter box ready to be installed.

I have a quick question around router location. When we bought the house we did a bit of remodelling and I managed to get some Cat 5e cables (I asked for Cat6) around the downstairs (2 in kitchen; 2 in front room; 2 in living room). These all terminate under the stairs in the hall where I currently have my Asus RT-AC87U router.

So to the question - the fiber will come in to the house in the front room very close to where I have my sockets. Can I simply connect the ONT to the socket and then straight to the router under the stairs? I am working under the assumption that I can but just looking for a bit of reassurance or guidance if I am incorrect.

oscarBravo · 28-11-2018 3:49pm

Mr. TTime wrote: »

So to the question - the fiber will come in to the house in the front room very close to where I have my sockets. Can I simply connect the ONT to the socket and then straight to the router under the stairs?

Yes, that will work perfectly.

TheDriver · 29-11-2018 1:55am

Anyone know when next database update is?

Marlow · 29-11-2018 1:56am

TheDriver wrote: »

Anyone know when next database update is?

Just about the corner. Give it a day or two.

/M

BArra · 29-11-2018 11:44am

long shot but does anybody think that SIRO will implement a mapping system like the eir fibre rollout map (that I know is now not updated anymore)

sticking in your eircode onto the Siro site is well and good, but would like to see a map of where their lines are going?

Marlow · 29-11-2018 12:06pm

They used to have maps with the outline of their rollout.

Those are now gone.

Mapping like the fibre rollout map is difficult in an urban scenario. So that detail wouldn't happen.

OpenEir also only provided similar outlines for their Urban VDSL.

Bottom line: SIRO used to have those maps, but removed them.

/M

EdgeCase · 29-11-2018 6:14pm

Anyone have any idea if Siro will consider connecting overhead if a duct is blocked / not suitable where there's overhead lines adjacent too?

I've a house in Cork City that dates from the late 1970s and the ESB line comes in underground. I've never seen the duct. The cable seems to come up into the meter cabinet through an open void in the brickwork and I can't physically see any duct.

The Huawei guys surveyed the ducts outside and didn't make any comment other than to say that my house connects to a mini pillar outside which seems to serve 3 houses. It's quite a small metal cabinet without any vault.

It seems to cover a few houses and a street lamp. There's one at roughly every 3rd house.

On the other side of my house there's an overhead ESB distribution line which has drop-wires going into neighbouring houses that are not fed underground. That literally runs within 1 meter of my boundary wall. There's a lamppost with several ESB overhead drops coming off it to different houses.

My OpenEir line also comes in overhead from roughly the same location and crosses the front garden connecting in at the eves of the house, even though all the other houses in the street I'm on are served with underground Eir lines.

I was just wondering, if there's an issue with the duct, would it be possible that they could run the line overhead from the ESB pole?

Also we're doing some landscaping and I was wondering would it be worth rolling in some ductwork out to the pole ?

I confirmed with Siro that my eircode is definitely on the rollout, but there's no indication of when.

I'd suspect the uptake would be quite high in our area as the Virgin coverage is pretty patchy some streets have it, others weren't touched by Cork Multichannel years ago. Some areas also have Virgin TV but the wiring's too poor to provide broadband and OpenEir's VDSL cabinets are quite a long run of lines away so speeds tend to max out at about 40-60mbit/s for most of us.

Marlow · 29-11-2018 7:36pm

EdgeCase wrote: »

Anyone have any idea if Siro will consider connecting overhead if a duct is blocked / not suitable where there's overhead lines adjacent too?

You're probably connected by direct buried cable, which normally would disqualify you. But if that pole is there and in the vicinity of your house, then you'll be flagged as overhead installation.

SIRO are quite good like that. They will connect/pass as many house as they can and look at all options.

Your fiber does not have to come the same way as your power supply.

/M

Marlow · 29-11-2018 7:38pm

Had a chat with two Actavo installers from Letterkenny today, when I was in Sligo.

Busy in Donegal now with Buncrana also having gone live on SIRO.

/M

EdgeCase · 29-11-2018 10:15pm

It doesn't look like direct buried cable though - just fairly simple PVC covered grey stuff.

Airwire: MartinL · 30-11-2018 10:35pm

We have updated the database on our availability checker today.

Premises passed within our coverage:
Athlone - 758
Clarecastle - 79
Limerick - 653
Portlaoise - 79
Shannon - 161

It can be found here: https://www.airwire.ie/avail

jack presley · 03-12-2018 10:47pm

The Siro lads were doing work in my estate recently. How soon after the work on the ground is done before it becomes available? I presume it's a couple of months but typically how many?

TheDriver · 04-12-2018 12:02am

jack presley wrote: »

The Siro lads were doing work in my estate recently. How soon after the work on the ground is done before it becomes available? I presume it's a couple of months but typically how many?

How long is a piece of string. We first saw work 8 months ago, then told we're going live in Nov and nothing happened.

5starpool · 04-12-2018 11:55pm

According to the siro site and an email I got from them siro is available at my address now (Ashbourne) but according to the Vodafone site it isn't. Does it take a day or so to propagate to the providers or something do ye know?

tsue921i8wljb3 · 04-12-2018 11:58pm

5starpool wrote: »

According to the siro site and an email I got from them siro is available at my address now (Ashbourne) but according to the Vodafone site it isn't. Does it take a day or so to propagate to the providers or something do ye know?

SIRO would send a list of new premises to all ISPs. It is then up to the ISP to merge that data into their own availability checker. Some ISPs are more proactive at this than others. Keep checking over the next few days.

Connrang · 05-12-2018 9:24am

Hi,
When SIRO laid the backbone in our area the first to benefit were VF customers who were upgraded. Then there will be the flyer drop and knock on the door of the sales people. But be careful, I signed up in August, the fibre cable is outside my gate on a pole and still no connection.....they will offer an installation date when they are signing you up so push for an early one, at least then you'll know if there will be difficulties.

Digiweb · 05-12-2018 11:28am

5starpool wrote: »

According to the siro site and an email I got from them siro is available at my address now (Ashbourne) but according to the Vodafone site it isn't. Does it take a day or so to propagate to the providers or something do ye know?

Can check your Eircode via PM if you like

5starpool · 06-12-2018 12:23am

Are all VF installs the gigabox now? Will that allow full 1gb speed on wired connections? I have cat 6 cables to be all rooms via a switch so have multiple devices connected via cable with a unifi AP also which I use for wireless (which I don't expect to be full speed obviously). I'm still weighing up providers but know someone in VF which is good if I ever have an issue which I can did recently. Is there a reason, given my setup, to prefer one supplier over another based on the supplied router?

I won't be getting phone or TV most likely via the BB.

tsue921i8wljb3 · 06-12-2018 12:37am

5starpool wrote: »

Are all VF installs the gigabox now? Will that allow full 1gb speed on wired connections? I have cat 6 cables to be all rooms via a switch so have multiple devices connected via cable with a unifi AP also which I use for wireless (which I don't expect to be full speed obviously). I'm still weighing up providers but know someone in VF which is good if I ever have an issue which I can did recently. Is there a reason, given my setup, to prefer one supplier over another based on the supplied router?

I won't be getting phone or TV most likely via the BB.

All Siro installs from Vodafone are the Gigabox I believe.

Vodafone have only recently introduced the Gigabox so you'd have to expect it is up to the task of routing 1Gb. You should not have issues really.

In Ashbourne is it not just Vodafone and Digiweb available?

Marlow · 06-12-2018 12:48am

5starpool wrote: »

Are all VF installs the gigabox now?

Averi Cool Midget wrote: »

All Siro installs from Vodafone are the Gigabox I believe.

On wired even the Huawei router does Gbit/s speeds. It's just crummy.

But yes .. all SIRO installation are guaranteed Gigabox. And the OpenEIR ones will also be soon as Huawei stocks are depleted.

And yes .. Ashbourne is currently Vodafone and Digiweb only.

/M

5starpool · 06-12-2018 12:48am

Averi Cool Midget wrote: »

All Siro installs from Vodafone are the Gigabox I believe.

Vodafone have only recently introduced the Gigabox so you'd have to expect it is up to the task of routing 1Gb. You should not have issues really.

In Ashbourne is it not just Vodafone and Digiweb available?

I have confirmed it is available with those two, but I was assuming, perhaps naively it may be that if it was available with one provider it would be available with all.

tsue921i8wljb3 · 06-12-2018 12:52am

5starpool wrote: »

I have confirmed it is available with those two, but I was assuming, perhaps naively it may be that if it was available with one provider it would be available with all.

If you put your Eircode into the checker on https://siro.ie it should tell you what providers are available in your area. Perhaps Airwire might be available but outside of that I would not expect any others bar Digiweb and Vodafone.

Doodie123 · 06-12-2018 12:56am

A question for Marlow - since he seems to be in Buncrana/Donegal at the minute.

I'm on a spur line (2 poles), about 250 meters way from the main poles where the fibers installed.

When the ESB crews were out stringing the fiber cable along my road, I checked with the contractors about the feasibility of getting the fiber extended up to my house.

My premises wasn't initially covered on the map the guy had, but he then said that he would make sure that there was a junction (connector?) at our pole.

He then stated that later on, i could get a much thinner finer optic cable "like a bootlace" ran up to my house. Since i'm an existing VF Broadband/Mobile/landline customer that would probably be free.

There seems to be some sort of junction connector on the new Pole at the road. My 2 neighbors on either side of me, at the main road - their Eircode say 6 months - but mine says unavailable.

So.. possibly i have the connector on the pole, but am not in the database. Is there any way to check or rectify that?

And if i do get added, how do I go about arranging the fiber to be extended when it's available.

It'll be an overhead connection as the the ducting exit is buried in the wall.

Airwire: MartinL · 06-12-2018 12:59am

5starpool wrote: »

I have confirmed it is available with those two, but I was assuming, perhaps naively it may be that if it was available with one provider it would be available with all.

No .. SIRO works differently than other networks. The wholesale partner has to meet SIRO at the interconnect for every area and ensure they have sufficient bandwidth to that point.

Ashbourne is part of the Dublin Northwest Internconnect. That is Finglas, Tyrrelstown, Ongar, Ashbourne, Dunshauglin, Dunboyne/Clonee and Ratoath.

Airwire for example services the following interconnects at the moment: Athlone, Dublin West, Ennis, Limerick, Portlaoise, and Sligo. Those places then make up the list of towns and cities we list on our website for SIRO.

Ennis serves Ennis and Shannon. So when you look at those two, you'll find that Digiweb doesn't serve, them. Only Vodafone and us.

It's down to where the partners have expanded their network to. We have no presence in North Dublin. So that's why you won't be able to order from us there. The SIRO website tells you what providers cover an area.

Marlow · 06-12-2018 1:02am

Doodie123 wrote: »

A question for Marlow - since he seems to be in Buncrana/Donegal at the minute.

I'm on a spur line (2 poles), about 250 meters way from the main poles where the fibers installed.

When the ESB crews were out stringing the fiber cable along my road, I checked with the contractors about the feasibility of getting the fiber extended up to my house.

My premises wasn't initially covered on the map the guy had, but he then said that he would make sure that there was a junction (connector?) at our pole.

He then stated that later on, i could get a much thinner finer optic cable "like a bootlace" ran up to my house. Since i'm an existing VF Broadband/Mobile/landline customer that would probably be free.

There seems to be some sort of junction connector on the new Pole at the road. My 2 neighbors on either side of me, at the main road - their Eircode say 6 months - but mine says unavailable.

So.. possibly i have the connector on the pole, but am not in the database. Is there any way to check or rectify that?

And if i do get added, how do I go about arranging the fiber to be extended when it's available.

It'll be an overhead connection as the the ducting exit is buried in the wall.

Not sure, how you got that idea. I'm way further down in the country, but know the area well.

Up your way it's Vodafone and Digiweb. Contact them or SIRO. They can either look it up in their systems (if they bother) or you could send a mail off to SIRO.

Or is this OpenEIR you're referring to ? In that case wrong thread

/M

plodder · 06-12-2018 11:57am

I saw some overhead FTTH cabling being done on the Rathbeale Rd. in Swords recently and initially thought it was Eir, but then I realised it was using ESB poles. So, it must be Siro. They were using what looked like large wooden clothes-pegs to hang the cable temporarily around the poles. It was very strange looking. But, the finished product looks sound enough.

MrO · 07-12-2018 8:04pm

plodder wrote: »

I saw some overhead FTTH cabling being done on the Rathbeale Rd. in Swords recently and initially thought it was Eir, but then I realised it was using ESB poles. So, it must be Siro. They were using what looked like large wooden clothes-pegs to hang the cable temporarily around the poles. It was very strange looking. But, the finished product looks sound enough.

Those close peg things you saw were most likely for earthing the overhead network while the new optical cable was being installed under (or over it).

5starpool · 08-12-2018 2:29pm

I thought I saw somewhere recently that Vodafone had 25 for 6 months then 45, but it seems to be 55 now. Did I imagine the 45 price?

Marlow · 08-12-2018 4:12pm

5starpool wrote: »

I thought I saw somewhere recently that Vodafone had 25 for 6 months then 45, but it seems to be 55 now. Did I imagine the 45 price?

The prices are on the SIRO website. It's always been 55 EUR for Vodafone.

A lot of the SIRO providers offer the 150 Mbit/s for 45/month.

/M

not1but4 · 08-12-2018 8:50pm

5starpool wrote: »

I thought I saw somewhere recently that Vodafone had 25 for 6 months then 45, but it seems to be 55 now. Did I imagine the 45 price?

12 month contract. €25 a month for 6 months. From €45 a month after that.
https://n.vodafone.ie/shop/broadband.html

45€ for up to 100mbps 55€ for the 1000mbps.

paulboland · 08-12-2018 9:05pm

5starpool wrote: »

I thought I saw somewhere recently that Vodafone had 25 for 6 months then 45, but it seems to be 55 now. Did I imagine the 45 price?

€25 for 6 months then €45
That's not a siro package

It's Vodafone Simply Broadband Fibre up to 100Mbps

paulboland · 08-12-2018 9:18pm

My Digiweb Siro Gigabit order the install is scheduled for Monday 17th

Digiweb shipped the fritzbox to me already

I will test the fritzbox after the install is completed but I will very likely be using my asus wireless router instead as that has lot better wireless

bloodyhawk · 08-12-2018 11:52pm

I had Siro installed couple of months ago. I really wanted to post and share some results, but I just couldn't get around to do it.
I want to thank the team at Airwire for such a great service. I had pleasure to experience nothing but great things from this company:D

ballwebhost · 12-12-2018 12:03pm

Have started seeing TLI Group vans working on ESB Poles outside our estate in the last week or so, there was 6/7 vans yesterday at least.

The Siro website is showing the following:

Being realistic, I'm wondering will we be able to sign up for Siro within 6 months?

Ballincollig is one of the rollout towns, but I'm based outside Ballincollig in Ovens which is strange that they're starting this direction and (I assume) working towards Ballincollig itself.

5starpool · 13-12-2018 4:26pm

ballwebhost wrote: »

Have started seeing TLI Group vans working on ESB Poles outside our estate in the last week or so, there was 6/7 vans yesterday at least.

The Siro website is showing the following:

Being realistic, I'm wondering will we be able to sign up for Siro within 6 months?

Ballincollig is one of the rollout towns, but I'm based outside Ballincollig in Ovens which is strange that they're starting this direction and (I assume) working towards Ballincollig itself.

Every area is different, but it was 4 months from when I first saw work happening (not necessarily the same thing as the start of the work though) in my estate until it was enabled.

I'm due to get SIRO installed next Wednesday, exciting!

EdgeCase · 13-12-2018 5:35pm

I notice it is coming up as available in Blarney Street in Cork City which would indicate that Huawei is moving very rapidly if they've already got services available.

Cork981 · 13-12-2018 7:06pm

EdgeCase wrote: »

I notice it is coming up as available in Blarney Street in Cork City which would indicate that Huawei is moving very rapidly if they've already got services available.

Yeah they done lots of work the last few weeks on Blarney steet, massive amount of vans around the place.

EdgeCase · 13-12-2018 7:37pm

Seems they're doing ducting around the Blackpool / Lady's Well side of Patrick's Hill, so I assume they'll quite quickly sweep up through Wellington Road and across into Mayfield and Montenotte and so on.

They should pick up quite a lot of customers as there are plenty of areas that Virgin doesn't cover due to Multichannel skipping random streets / sections of streets and so on and Eir doesn't have stellar service in right in the city i.e. long lines back to exchanges instead of cabinets and so on.

marno21 · 13-12-2018 10:42pm

Showing as within 6 months now for me on the checker.

Fantastic news given my 22Mbit Eir FTTC is out of contract in April.

EdgeCase · 14-12-2018 12:38am

I was just wondering what's the possibility of signing up with say Digiweb on FTTC and then when Siro becomes available, moving to that?
Would they still lock you into a 12 month contract with the slower technology?

Marlow · 14-12-2018 12:59am

EdgeCase wrote: »

I was just wondering what's the possibility of signing up with say Digiweb on FTTC and then when Siro becomes available, moving to that?
Would they still lock you into a 12 month contract with the slower technology?

Ask them. Any decent internet provider will let you upgrade. Moving you to SIRO (after at least 6 months on OpenEIR) is actually benefitial to them .. money wise

( I didn't say that

)

/M

cunnijo · 14-12-2018 1:04am

EdgeCase wrote: »

I was just wondering what's the possibility of signing up with say Digiweb on FTTC and then when Siro becomes available, moving to that?
Would they still lock you into a 12 month contract with the slower technology?

When you sign up to FTTC you are normally tied to the initial 12 month contract but if your address becomes SIRO enabled during that time they will allow you to upgrade once you agree a new 12 month contract. If you contact Digiweb sales on 1800 285828 this should be clarified for you.

tsue921i8wljb3 · 14-12-2018 1:11am

75126 FTTH connections at the end of Q3 2018 according to the latest Comreg Key Quarterly Data. Obviously this is split between all the operators, Openeir and SIRO being the largest. The previous reports had a trend of a 10000 increase quarter on quarter so only an extra 5000 in this report is surprising given the aggressive SIRO promotion.

https://www.comreg.ie/publication/quarterly-key-data-report-q3-2018/

KOR101 · 14-12-2018 10:56am

Averi Cool Midget wrote: »

75126 FTTH connections at the end of Q3 2018 according to the latest Comreg Key Quarterly Data. Obviously this is split between all the operators, Openeir and SIRO being the largest. The previous reports had a trend of a 10000 increase quarter on quarter so only an extra 5000 in this report is surprising given the aggressive SIRO promotion.

https://www.comreg.ie/publication/quarterly-key-data-report-q3-2018/

I think your eyes are playing tricks with you. Last quarter FTTP was 60,754.

Thanks as ever.

KOR101 · 14-12-2018 11:10am

FTTH takes over..................

https://imgur.com/a/J9KjSVT

tsue921i8wljb3 · 14-12-2018 4:40pm

KOR101 wrote: »

I think your eyes are playing tricks with you. Last quarter FTTP was 60,754.

Thanks as ever.

I meant 5000 over the usual 10000 quarterly increase figure. I was expecting more than 15000 to be honest.

KOR101 · 14-12-2018 5:02pm

Averi Cool Midget wrote: »

I meant 5000 over the usual 10000 quarterly increase figure. I was expecting more than 15000 to be honest.

Apologies......get you now.

peking97 · 19-12-2018 3:33pm

It seems Sky are now also offering FTTH via SIRO in some areas:-
https://siro.ie/towns/shannon/

TCP/IP · 19-12-2018 3:37pm

peking97 wrote: »

It seems Sky are now also offering FTTH via SIRO in some areas:-
https://siro.ie/towns/shannon/

Yes showing live in my estate in Newbridge as well.

SIRO - ESB/Vodafone Fibre To The Home

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