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Eir rural FTTH thread II

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  • #9052
    turbbo
    Registered Users Posts: 1,138 ✭✭✭turbbo


    cnocbui wrote: »
    Fritbox seem to be claiming some very fast speeds for their WiFi. Don't know if they are really achievable or not: https://www.amazon.de/s?k=fritzbox&__mk_de_DE=%C3%85M%C3%85%C5%BD%C3%95%C3%91&ref=nb_sb_noss_1

    wifi 6 is out now - if i was in the market for a new ap i'd be looking at something packing it...
    https://nasilemaktech.com/wifi-6-speed-test/


  • #9053
    cnocbui
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,111 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Be my guest. The article states there is only one router to choose from and that one is €548 - likely plus vat here, so €674.


  • #9054
    Andy From Sligo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,842 ✭✭✭✭Andy From Sligo


    WhoJackie wrote: »
    After a lot of messing around, digging trench, cutting up concrete to install the duct, finally got the fiber in last week! It's been a long time coming.

    On Fast dot com, getting 1GB per sec and as high as 4GB? Kind of odd, but not complaining! (Using ethernet)

    Also, Is the Eir F2000 router capable of sending out gigabit? Or is it capped? (And is there a router available that will send out gigibit over wi-fi)

    glad u finally got it installed - you had to do some work there to install the duct and everything . was running overhead out of the frame?


  • #9055
    turbbo
    Registered Users Posts: 1,138 ✭✭✭turbbo


    cnocbui wrote: »
    Be my guest. The article states there is only one router to choose from and that one is €548 - likely plus vat here, so €674.


    A quick google and you'll find way cheaper options - reason I posted that was to demonstrate how much better the new wifi standard actually is. Of course there are very few clients that have wifi 6 - samsung s10 comes to mind. But give it a year and it will be ubiquitous. If i was in the market for a new router it's what i'd be looking at.

    eg.
    https://www.amazon.de/dp/B07NCR8696?linkCode=xm2&camp=2025&creative=165953&smid=A3JWKAKR8XB7XF&creativeASIN=B07NCR8696&tag=geizhalspre03-21&ascsubtag=1iW3RB5ZnOief1Aq4Cfkbw

    :p


  • #9056
    AirBiscuit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,062 ✭✭✭AirBiscuit


    Andy From Sligo wrote: »
    Now, I have it .. its OK , but I thought it would be tons better than it is. - I dunno why but am a bit disappointed or not as overwhelmed as I thought I would be.. I mean it should be , but sometimes it dont feel much faster that the 12mbps FWA that we had , still some sights lag and take a while to come up still and i didnt think that would still happen.
    Try changing to a faster DNS. Cloudflare and Google resolve quite quickly, 1.1.1.1 and 8.8.8.8 respectively.
    SS6pqib.png?1


  • #9057
    dam099
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,122 ✭✭✭dam099


    Andy From Sligo wrote: »
    was choosing airwire because server is in Galway which is nearer to me than Digiweb server in Dublin.

    I havent a clue where the Sligo servers are gone on speedtest.net now , there was fastcom and westconnect i think - dont appear to

    Galway and Sligo servers might not be closer to you anyway if your ISP peers with Airwire etc in Dublin.


  • #9058
    tuxy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    dam099 wrote: »
    Galway and Sligo servers might not be closer to you anyway if your ISP peers with Airwire etc in Dublin.

    Any server with enough bandwidth should work, I think I get a consistent 143 Mbps with all servers based in Ireland at least.


  • #9059
    dam099
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,122 ✭✭✭dam099


    tuxy wrote: »
    Any server with enough bandwidth should work, I think I get a consistent 143 Mbps with all servers based in Ireland at least.

    Ya agreed. Might add a ms or two to ping though.:eek:


  • #9060
    babi-hrse
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 788 ✭✭✭babi-hrse


    So I know it's getting to be like a broken record but any updates on the national broadband plan in light of today's news releating to a lack of budget surplus? Is the go ahead with granahan mcCourt a done deal or is fg doing the usual pussyfooting around until people hopefully stop bringing it up?


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  • #9061
    tuxy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    babi-hrse wrote: »
    So I know it's getting to be like a broken record but any updates on the national broadband plan in light of today's news releating to a lack of budget surplus? Is the go ahead with granahan mcCourt a done deal or is fg doing the usual pussyfooting around until people hopefully stop bringing it up?

    Any info people have about that topic can be found here

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057332672&page=633


  • #9062
    WhoJackie
    Registered Users Posts: 9 ✭WhoJackie


    Andy From Sligo wrote: »
    glad u finally got it installed - you had to do some work there to install the duct and everything . was running overhead out of the frame?
    Thanks - Yeah, a lot of messing around and expense, and then there's an installation fee on top of that (madness) The KN guys showed up for a survey ad ruled out the overhead option, but I would have been happy to have a line overhead coming in.


    Do you happen to know if the F2000 Router is capped over wi-fi?



    I spotted a discounted TP Link Gigabit router going in Tesco today for €35, I think I'll be picking it up (£70 on Amazon)


  • #9063
    tsue921i8wljb3
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,017 ✭✭✭tsue921i8wljb3


    WhoJackie wrote: »
    Thanks - Yeah, a lot of messing around and expense, and then there's an installation fee on top of that (madness) The KN guys showed up for a survey ad ruled out the overhead option, but I would have been happy to have a line overhead coming in.


    Do you happen to know if the F2000 Router is capped over wi-fi?



    I spotted a discounted TP Link Gigabit router going in Tesco today for €35, I think I'll be picking it up (£70 on Amazon)

    The F2000 will do about 250Mb max over WiFi.

    Make sure the router you purchase supports VLAN tagging on WAN or it will not work with your connection. A lot of the cheaper TP-Link units don't do tagging.


  • #9064
    tuxy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    WhoJackie wrote: »

    Do you happen to know if the F2000 Router is capped over wi-fi?



    I spotted a discounted TP Link Gigabit router going in Tesco today for €35, I think I'll be picking it up (£70 on Amazon)

    Capped? No
    But I found it's WIFI performance poor, wired it worked just fine.
    Check reviews on the TP Link model before buying and it need to do vlan on the WAN port if you want to completely replace the f2000.

    If you really want great WIFI performance I'd recommend this
    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Ubiquiti-Networks-UAP-AC-LITE-Access-Point/dp/B016K4GQVG/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=unifi&qid=1561494644&s=gateway&sr=8-1
    Connected to the F2000


  • #9065
    WhoJackie
    Registered Users Posts: 9 ✭WhoJackie


    Dominique Loud Waistband wrote: »
    The F2000 will do about 250Mb max over WiFi.

    Make sure the router you purchase supports VLAN tagging on WAN or it will not work with your connection. A lot of the cheaper TP-Link units don't do tagging.


    Thanks for the info, so potentially the wi-fi speed could be better providing the new router is up to it?


    Pretty sure it was a TP Link AC750 Wireless Dual Band Gigabit Router,

    ''With 433Mbps wireless speeds over the crystal clear 5GHz band and 300Mbps over the 2.4GHz band,''


    would it be an improvement over the F2000? Any help would be appreciated.


  • #9066
    Ninkel
    Registered Users Posts: 18 ✭Ninkel


    Extract from Irish Examiner today:

    Eir is “certain” it could roll out a national broadband plan for Ireland for under €1bn, a committee has heard.

    Eir CEO Carolan Lennon, appeared before an Oireachtas committee investigating the National Broadband Plan (NBP) process and how to roll out rural broadband across the country to more than 540,000 properties.

    Ms Lennon told members her company could complete the infrastructure to “every home and farm” in Ireland at a much lower cost than the government’s plan, which could cost the taxpayer up to €3bn.


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  • #9067
    cnocbui
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,111 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    We replaced the F2000 with a TP-Link AC1750 because the F2000 kept crashing and the WiFi performance was poor. The F2000 is connected behind the 1750 to service the VOIP phone connection.


  • #9068
    WhoJackie
    Registered Users Posts: 9 ✭WhoJackie


    tuxy wrote: »
    Capped? No
    But I found it's WIFI performance poor, wired it worked just fine.
    Check reviews on the TP Link model before buying and it need to do vlan on the WAN port if you want to completely replace the f2000.

    If you really want great WIFI performance I'd recommend this
    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Ubiquiti-Networks-UAP-AC-LITE-Access-Point/dp/B016K4GQVG/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=unifi&qid=1561494644&s=gateway&sr=8-1
    Connected to the F2000
    Thanks for the Ubiquiti Suggestion, so that just goes into one of the ethernet ports and you're away?


  • #9069
    tuxy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    WhoJackie wrote: »
    Thanks for the Ubiquiti Suggestion, so that just goes into one of the ethernet ports and you're away?

    It comes with a POE injection

    poe3_1_1.jpg

    You plug that into a power socket and then run an ethernet cable to the lan port on the F2000 and the other cable will provide power and data to the unifi WIFI.

    That way you only have to run one cable if you want to relocate your WIFI to somewhere more central but if you want to leave it right beside the F2000 that's fine too.

    You then install UNIFI controller software on a laptop or PC and it will find the WIFI device and walk you through setup. Just standard stuff like WIFI name and password.
    Once setup you don't need to use the software again unless you want to change setting or see who is using the WIFI.
    It can also do lots of cool things like having a different network for the kids that turns off at a certain time. Loads of features that you can find out about from youtube videos but of course you don't need to go that deep into as it can just work as a very basic stable WIFI device if that's all you need.


  • #9070
    tsue921i8wljb3
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,017 ✭✭✭tsue921i8wljb3


    WhoJackie wrote: »
    Thanks for the info, so potentially the wi-fi speed could be better providing the new router is up to it?


    Pretty sure it was a TP Link AC750 Wireless Dual Band Gigabit Router,

    ''With 433Mbps wireless speeds over the crystal clear 5GHz band and 300Mbps over the 2.4GHz band,''


    would it be an improvement over the F2000? Any help would be appreciated.


    That's not great really as an upgrade. Generally divide the quoted speeds by 2 for real world wireless performance.


  • #9071
    Andy From Sligo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,842 ✭✭✭✭Andy From Sligo


    AirBiscuit wrote: »
    Try changing to a faster DNS. Cloudflare and Google resolve quite quickly, 1.1.1.1 and 8.8.8.8 respectively.
    SS6pqib.png?1

    thank you - have just inputted that now to give it a try..

    EDIT:Just to confirm, do I put all 1's in the Preferred DNSv4 server and then all 8's in the Alternative DNSv4 server boxes?


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  • #9072
    tuxy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    Andy From Sligo wrote: »
    thank you - have just inputted that now to give it a try

    The DNS is only for converting domain names to IP address, it may speed things up by a second when you first visit a site but should make no difference to throughput.


  • #9073
    WhoJackie
    Registered Users Posts: 9 ✭WhoJackie


    tuxy wrote: »
    It comes with a POE injection

    poe3_1_1.jpg

    You plug that into a power socket and then run an ethernet cable to the lan port on the F2000 and the other cable will provide power and data to the unifi WIFI.

    That way you only have to run one cable if you want to relocate your WIFI to somewhere more central but if you want to leave it right beside the F2000 that's fine too.

    You then install UNIFI controller software on a laptop or PC and it will find the WIFI device and walk you through setup. Just standard stuff like WIFI name and password.
    Once setup you don't need to use the software again unless you want to change setting or see who is using the WIFI.
    It can also do lots of cool things like having a different network for the kids that turns off at a certain time. Loads of features that you can find out about from youtube videos but of course you don't need to go that deep into as it can just work as a very basic stable WIFI device if that's all you need.


    Cheers for the info, I think this might be a good option!


  • #9074
    fieldofsheep
    Registered Users Posts: 37 ✭fieldofsheep


    I've just switched from Eir to Vodafone for my FTTH connection - I had posted earlier wondering what I'd get for my €99 switching fee (which is discounted from OpenEir's €170 switching AFAIK).

    Got a call yesterday from OpenEir confirming the switchover, and another call this morning from the KN Networks engineer confirming my address.  The switchover basically consisted of plugging in the pre-configured Vodafone Gigabox router into the ONT, no work on the DP.  While he was there I asked him to change the ODP (where the external fibre cable terminates) as it had been damaged during some building work, which he did no problem.  He also did a small bit of work to improve the signal coming in as it was a bit weak, possibly due to dust in the ODP.

    I have my own router/wifi setup (Ubiquiti EdgeRouter X and Unifi wifi) and I asked him for the PPPOE details in setting it up - he wasn't sure and said I'd have to contact Vodafone for them, but I managed to find them in a previous post (Username: Gigabox_Serial_Number@vfieftth.ie, password: broadband).  This did the trick, so the Gigabox is back in its box already.

    Speeds and ping times are similar to what I had on the Eir 300mb package.  All in all it was a fairly seamless switchover - to be honest, they could have just sent the modem and a set of instructions that even a non-technical person could have followed.


  • #9075
    Airwire: MartinL
    Company Representative Posts: 668 ✭✭✭Airwire: MartinL


    We have updated the database for OpenEIR FTTC/FTTH today.

    It can be found at https://www.airwire.ie/avail


  • #9076
    correction
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,134 ✭✭✭correction


    Might have fixed my disconnecting issue. I had a couple of powerlines still plugged in from our previous broadband but they weren't in use, I hadn't gotten rid of them from laziness tbh. I noticed in the router log that every 10 mins or so it was reporting that the powerlines were connected which I found odd so I removed them and there hasn't been as issue since.

    I have no idea why that would have been causing a problem but I don't care if it's fixed it. I won't count my chickens just yet but I did that about a week ago now and it's been perfect since.


  • #9077
    babi-hrse
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 788 ✭✭✭babi-hrse


    correction wrote: »
    Might have fixed my disconnecting issue. I had a couple of powerlines still plugged in from our previous broadband but they weren't in use, I hadn't gotten rid of them from laziness tbh. I noticed in the router log that every 10 mins or so it was reporting that the powerlines were connected which I found odd so I removed them and there hasn't been as issue since.

    I have no idea why that would have been causing a problem but I don't care if it's fixed it. I won't count my chickens just yet but I did that about a week ago now and it's been perfect since.

    Could have been a broadcast storm?
    If you have say a network cable plugged into a device on the other end that connects to switch or router then another cable from router to powerline adapter over to other adapter which could be plugged into the same. In essence creating a loop for the router to hear its own announcements and replying to itself over and over until it can't handle anymore. Routers are noisy things and constantly say all sorts over their network if there's a second return path back to itself it won't shut down or ignore that it will reply to it and keep it running around until it's time to live times out this is like having more and more cars go onto a roundabout and drive around without getting off pretty soon it can bring the network to a halt or slow it down dramatically.
    Fun fact wanna drive a network admin crazy find an unmanaged ethernet switch and plug two ends of a cat5 cable into it and watch the computers start locking up in a matter of minutes.


  • #9078
    correction
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,134 ✭✭✭correction


    babi-hrse wrote: »
    Could have been a broadcast storm?
    If you have say a network cable plugged into a device on the other end that connects to switch or router then another cable from router to powerline adapter over to other adapter which could be plugged into the same. In essence creating a loop for the router to hear its own announcements and replying to itself over and over until it can't handle anymore. Routers are noisy things and constantly say all sorts over their network if there's a second return path back to itself it won't shut down or ignore that it will reply to it and keep it running around until it's time to live times out this is like having more and more cars go onto a roundabout and drive around without getting off pretty soon it can bring the network to a halt or slow it down dramatically.
    Fun fact wanna drive a network admin crazy find an unmanaged ethernet switch and plug two ends of a cat5 cable into it and watch the computers start locking up in a matter of minutes.

    That actually sounds very plausible. I had two powerline adapters plugged into the router with the other ends in two different rooms on the other side of the house. When the fibre was installed initially I just automatically connected the powerlines into the router assuming I would still be using them but when I set up the devices in the other rooms I unplugged the adapters just so I could test the wifi which was fine so I never bothered connecting them again.

    This in essence left me with a single powerline connection going from the router to, well, the router.


  • #9079
    savemejebus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,574 ✭✭✭savemejebus


    Has anyone had any experience with the Fritz!box 1750E Wlan repeater? For anyone that got a Fritz!box from digiweb or Airwire it seems to be a neat way to create a mesh network in your house.


  • #9080
    AirBiscuit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,062 ✭✭✭AirBiscuit


    Andy From Sligo wrote: »
    thank you - have just inputted that now to give it a try..

    EDIT:Just to confirm, do I put all 1's in the Preferred DNSv4 server and then all 8's in the Alternative DNSv4 server boxes?

    Depends on who you choose, I used only cloudflare for main and secondary so their main one is 1.1.1.1 and their secondary is 1.0.0.1. For Google's public DNS only you would use 8.8.8.8 as the main one and 8.8.4.4 for the secondary


  • #9081
    tcawley29
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,829 ✭✭✭tcawley29


    Airwire listed as "Coming Soon". Happy days, I'll finally have decent internet when I come home to my parents :pac:


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  • #9082
    tsue921i8wljb3
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,017 ✭✭✭tsue921i8wljb3


    https://twitter.com/adrianweckler/status/1143866516116557825

    Would put open eir at around 65000 assuming no other FTTH providers are counted in the Comreg figures.


  • #9083
    AirBiscuit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,062 ✭✭✭AirBiscuit


    Dominique Loud Waistband wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/adrianweckler/status/1143866516116557825

    Would put open eir at around 65000 assuming no other FTTH providers are counted in the Comreg figures.
    Their main complain from what I can gleam from the article is that eir made an area around towns that would make it more costly for them to get into the deep rural areas.


    Tough ****? It means Eir were able to complete in the years since they announced the rollout in 2015 what SIRO would only be starting work on around now assuming that the bidding process had multiple bidders left and went fairly, meaning many homes that do have Fibre now wouldn't.


    It's a shame for those in the NBP areas that it ultimately led to delays and controversy, but better 300,000 people were spared an extra needless delay.


  • #9084
    babi-hrse
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 788 ✭✭✭babi-hrse


    Not biased but I've seen a good few people with sirio ftth get a copper BB line back in in areas around naas I mean you'd have to have some complaints with the service to want to go back to copper some only getting 30mpbs and they wanted to go back. are sirio dealing with teething issues?


  • #9085
    Video
    Registered Users Posts: 635 ✭✭✭Video


    Does anyone know what the maximum distance they will run this connection from the distribution point. Theres a black box on a pole about 100m away from my house and when i use my eircode on the checker it says im covered. This is the only black box up on the poles and im hoping that it will cover my house.


  • #9086
    tsue921i8wljb3
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,017 ✭✭✭tsue921i8wljb3


    Video wrote: »
    Does anyone know what the maximum distance they will run this connection from the distribution point. Theres a black box on a pole about 100m away from my house and when i use my eircode on the checker it says im covered. This is the only black box up on the poles and im hoping that it will cover my house.

    I think 150m is the stated max distance but they have probably gone further in certain instances. If the checkers say you're covered you should be connected.


  • #9087
    tuxy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    Technically is there a max distance for drop cables? I guess it may depend on how strong the signal is at the DP.
    Once there are sufficient poles along the path to support the cable they can probably cover a very long distance.


  • #9088
    tsue921i8wljb3
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,017 ✭✭✭tsue921i8wljb3


    babi-hrse wrote: »
    Not biased but I've seen a good few people with sirio ftth get a copper BB line back in in areas around naas I mean you'd have to have some complaints with the service to want to go back to copper some only getting 30mpbs and they wanted to go back. are sirio dealing with teething issues?

    It's hardly teething issues. They've been operating for five years. It's pretty much the same system as open eir so I'd tend to think it's user failure rather than any issue with SIRO.


  • #9089
    tuxy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    30 Mbps is probably fine for many households right now so the deciding factor could be cost for them.


  • #9090
    tsue921i8wljb3
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,017 ✭✭✭tsue921i8wljb3


    tuxy wrote: »
    Technically is there a max distance for drop cables? I guess it may depend on how strong the signal is at the DP.
    Once there are sufficient poles along the path to support the cable they can probably cover a very long distance.

    Technically as long as the total path from the OLT is less than 20km there should be no limit on drop cable length.

    Practically they don't want installers climbing multiple poles to fit brackets.


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  • #9091
    Andy From Sligo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,842 ✭✭✭✭Andy From Sligo


    AirBiscuit wrote: »
    Depends on who you choose, I used only cloudflare for main and secondary so their main one is 1.1.1.1 and their secondary is 1.0.0.1. For Google's public DNS only you would use 8.8.8.8 as the main one and 8.8.4.4 for the secondary

    great, thanks


  • #9092
    Andy From Sligo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,842 ✭✭✭✭Andy From Sligo


    Video wrote: »
    Does anyone know what the maximum distance they will run this connection from the distribution point. Theres a black box on a pole about 100m away from my house and when i use my eircode on the checker it says im covered. This is the only black box up on the poles and im hoping that it will cover my house.

    you could be like what it is in my situation - havent measured it but a drop box is on a wooden pole quite a bit up the road from my house .... yet outside my house in a pavement I have an underground vault (chamber) with another DP box in it under the cast iron cover - check to see if you have a eir/eircom chamber in a path/road/pavement near your house too and maybe it will have a DP in that, and maybe thats what they will connect you to


  • #9093
    babi-hrse
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 788 ✭✭✭babi-hrse


    Max distance is 500 a roll of fibre is only 500m
    Generally 7 poles and a drop poles tend to be 50m apart it's just the longer it is the more the likelihood theres gonna be an issue somewhere done plenty of 400m jobs


  • #9094
    Andy From Sligo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,842 ✭✭✭✭Andy From Sligo


    I noticed the other day I have a telephony VOIP number assigned in my FritzBox.. I never took the VOIP package from my ISP which was only 10eur extra on top of the FTTH package - although its cheap enough I just thought it would be a waste reallty as i use Skype and facebook voice calling these days really on the whole to phone family and friends and also have a bill pay mobile with certain amount of calls and texts per month.

    but anyway i was in the settings of the Fritz box and i see this telephone number assigned in it (stating with 071, our area code if I had a PSTN line) ... and the box also has an answering machine built in and electronics to use the fritz box as a DECT base (nice router TBF) and I though well that would hardly work because we havent taken out the VIOP package. - but just as a test I attached a phone lead to the FON socket of the FritzBox and tried dialling it with my mobile phone .. and low & behold to my surprise the phone rang! - then I set up the answering machine part on the FritzBox and tried ringing that number again and the answering machine in the Fritz Box answered the call and recorded the call .

    Only thing I havent tried, but itching to, is calling out on that number stored in the Fritz Box because I am wondering that if you call out on it would the ISP pick up on it and start charging the extra 10euro a month for voice calls on top of the FTTH package then. Would anyone know? - if I get in touch with the ISP they might realise and say it was a maistake it was on there and then might decide to disable it or remove it for incoming calls maybe?


  • #9095
    Johnboy1951
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,032 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    I would wait until I got a couple of bills from the ISP before doing anything ...... to ensure the cost of the phone is not added or included.
    If you use it then you have accepted it ...... if not used it you can point out their error.

    On the other hand it might well be included in what you signed up for ......


  • #9096
    Varik
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,553 ✭✭✭✭Varik


    On Airwire's site what's the difference between

    Coming soon & available soon, mine says available but mentioned elsewhere as coming. Just paraphrasing of posters or what.


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  • #9097
    Andy From Sligo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,842 ✭✭✭✭Andy From Sligo


    Johnboy1951 wrote: »
    I would wait until I got a couple of bills from the ISP before doing anything ...... to ensure the cost of the phone is not added or included.
    If you use it then you have accepted it ...... if not used it you can point out their error.

    On the other hand it might well be included in what you signed up for ......

    good idea yes


  • #9098
    Marlow
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,555 ✭✭✭✭Marlow


    Varik wrote: »
    On Airwire's site what's the difference between

    Coming soon & available soon, mine says available but mentioned elsewhere as coming. Just paraphrasing of posters or what.

    There is "Coming soon" and "Available". There is no "Available soon".

    And what are you looking at ? VDSL or FTTH ?

    /M


  • #9099
    Varik
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,553 ✭✭✭✭Varik


    Marlow wrote: »
    There is "Coming soon" and "Available". There is no "Available soon".

    And what are you looking at ? VDSL or FTTH ?

    /M

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  • #9100
    Andy From Sligo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,842 ✭✭✭✭Andy From Sligo


    i'm almost sure there was an 'available soon' on mine near to the end - was getting very excited about it


  • #9101
    Marlow
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,555 ✭✭✭✭Marlow


    Varik wrote: »
    ....

    Ah .. that means, your premise has been indexed for FTTH. But there's no date for rollout available yet.

    Could be 2-6 months. Probably more like 2 months since they're at the end of the deadline.

    I think the page was changed at some stage and it used to be "Coming soon" and was changed to "Available soon". It means the same thing.

    /M


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