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Malazan Book of the Fallen Series

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  • Site Banned Posts: 4,066 ✭✭✭Silvio.Dante


    Well I'm kicking off with Gardens of the Moon tonight. I'm doing so with some trepidation as I've heard some very mixed reactions and that GOTM is a rough ride.

    However I'm used to heavy, complicated series like the Wheel of Time, which I love.

    I've been taking it easy with David Eddings which was great but I need a challenge and I think I've found it...;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,129 ✭✭✭pljudge321


    However I'm used to heavy, complicated series like the Wheel of Time, which I love.

    The Malazan world is in a whole different ballpark to the Wheel of Time in terms of complexity.


  • Site Banned Posts: 4,066 ✭✭✭Silvio.Dante


    pljudge321 wrote: »
    The Malazan world is in a whole different ballpark to the Wheel of Time in terms of complexity.

    Really...:eek:


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,920 ✭✭✭AnCapaillMor


    Really...:eek:

    Most definately, wot has one central plot, malazan has so many plots, stories and don't even get me started on characters.


  • Site Banned Posts: 4,066 ✭✭✭Silvio.Dante


    The big question for both of you, is it worth the effort..?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,920 ✭✭✭AnCapaillMor


    Yeah most definately, took me 3 attempts to read the first book, its gets confusing as he throws so much at you with little or no introduction but once you get your head around it all, it's captivating.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,920 ✭✭✭AnCapaillMor


    Yeah most definately, took me 3 attempts to read the first book, its gets confusing as he throws so much at you with little or no introduction but once you get your head around it all, it's captivating.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,129 ✭✭✭pljudge321


    The big question for both of you, is it worth the effort..?

    Hells yes


  • Site Banned Posts: 4,066 ✭✭✭Silvio.Dante


    Thats good to know...:)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 235 ✭✭Tym


    The books are okay. They kind of need to be edited down a little and the characters aren't really that deep. But its a nice fantasy series to read.


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,082 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    My favourite series that there is, after that it's a song of ice and fire.

    I don't think it's that challenging to remember anything or that it is demanding, if you read them together and relatively fast. Otherwise tou forget so much. He also hurts your heart with his killings :(


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 17,989 Mod ✭✭✭✭ixoy


    Good news is there is still plenty to go.
    Erikson is working on his Karkanas trilogy, followed hopefully by a trilogy around Karsa.
    Esslemont has two more books to go as well: First one is back to Jacuruku and tentatively called "City in the Jungle". The final one is currently called, intriguingly, "Assail"...


  • Site Banned Posts: 4,066 ✭✭✭Silvio.Dante


    A question about Esselmonts work. Can it be read in conjunction with Erikson or is it to be read completely serarately..?


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,920 ✭✭✭AnCapaillMor


    Definately read it later.


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 7,953 ✭✭✭fitz


    Definately read it later.

    Reading the lot in the order they were published is what Erikson has recommended.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 17,989 Mod ✭✭✭✭ixoy


    A question about Esselmonts work. Can it be read in conjunction with Erikson or is it to be read completely serarately..?
    Well from Esslemont's comments "Stoneweilder" is contemporary with "Orb Sceptre Throne". "Orb Sceptre Throne" is (sort of) a sequel to "Toll the Hounds". You could read "Orb Sceptre Throne" before "The Crippled God" for example (from a chronological perspective) but, under no circumstance, read it before "Toll the Hounds" as it has major spoilers.


  • Site Banned Posts: 4,066 ✭✭✭Silvio.Dante


    Wow I'm so glad I've found these books. It's going to be some adventure. Sorry if that sounds childish....... No, in fact I'm not sorry at all...:)


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,082 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    Enjoy, great pleasure reading them. :)

    The AMA on reddit was great thanks ixoy


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,326 ✭✭✭Zapp Brannigan


    Enjoy, great pleasure reading them. :)

    The AMA on reddit was great thanks ixoy

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,309 ✭✭✭giftgrub


    I've decided to have a go at this series as soon as I finish a Song of Fire and Ice.

    I'm a sci/fi and fantasy nut but i do like to take a break when i finish up a big series, so it'll be a little Elmore Leonard in between.

    Go Raylan


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  • Registered Users Posts: 689 ✭✭✭Evac101


    Just finished Orb, Sceptre, Throne. Spoiler free review is: Very good but.


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,770 ✭✭✭✭keane2097


    Makes any books by any other authors I've read look like babytown frolics.

    Reading Game of Thrones at the moment and it's like it was written for kids by comparison.

    I recommend waiting till you're pretty sure you've only got time to read one more fantasy series before you die, because you're ruining all the rest if you read these early.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,303 ✭✭✭Temptamperu


    I got the first book there and read... tried to read some on the tram, its heavy from the get go i like that. might just curl me self up and have a lash of it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,402 ✭✭✭✭Trojan


    When I first started up, I was left slack-jawed by a certain trilogy called The Chronicles of Thomas Covenant, but rather than giving up in the face of that, I took it as inspiration.

    I think this explains why I'm not so crazy about Malazan... :)


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 17,989 Mod ✭✭✭✭ixoy


    I see "Forge of Darkness", the first book in the Kharkanas trilogy, is due for release on the Kindle on July 31st.

    Now for the rant: I also see it's for the rip-off price of $19.20. Erikson's publishers (and ICE's) seem to charge far in excess of the average eBook price for their works. "Orb Sceptre Throne" is still $19.47 - the paper back was cheaper on release in Irish stores. Why can't it be closer to Peter F. Hamilton's new book which I pre-ordered for $12.50 which is far more reasonable (and of a similar size)? Greedy publishers will only hurt themselves.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,326 ✭✭✭Zapp Brannigan


    I don't get it until Sept over here :(


  • Registered Users Posts: 71 ✭✭PADRAGON


    Fantastic read one of the best series out there.
    Horribly confusing at times but well worth all
    the headwreckery.
    Unforgettable.
    Highly recommended. :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 457 ✭✭Xaniaj


    I'm about half way through the second book currently and really enjoying it.

    It took me two attempts to start the first book (I don't think I was mentally prepared first time around) and I'm still telling my girlfriend that "I'm not sure what's going on but I'm loving it!" :pac:


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 7,953 ✭✭✭fitz


    Imo, despite it being a little slow to start, if you get to the end of Deadhouse Gates and aren't floored, then Erikson isn't for you. The Chain of Dogs arc completely knocked me sidewise. I think from the second half of Deadhouse on, you start to get settled in to his writing and things start to make a degree of sense.
    I found everything from the second half of Deadhouse to really fly along, until Toll the Hounds and Dust of Dreams which were heavy going for the first half, with incredible endings.

    My favourite series of books, bar none.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 11,933 ✭✭✭✭titan18


    Aye, anyone new really needs to get to the Chain of Dogs before deciding whether to continue. The first book really just drops you into it, and it takes that long to actually get into it imo.


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