Unpopular Opinions - OP Updated with Threadban List 4/5/21

FileNotFound · 27-04-2021 11:02am

Ollie Cromwell wrote: »

The fact the you're unable/unwilling to provide any evidence to support your theory rather renders your opinion on educational standards superfluous don't you think ?
Never mind the appalling grammar and punctuation ...

No not really, you have yet to support any statement you have made here... Feel free to roll back the posts and correct this if you are so inclined.

Good grammar was more important in school, which thankfully more people in Ireland attend than is the case in the UK.

I often think its this higher level of education that allows us to be less bitter and angry than the average brit.

FileNotFound · 27-04-2021 11:05am

EddieN75 wrote: »

So tax evasion or avoidance?
Do you want to continue to skirt around topics that you yourself brought up yet clearly have no knowledge on or do you want to call it a day?

Maybe head to the zoo with MM

Whichever one fits the definition the Eu had pur on the Caymans, I understand there was a legal change in Feb last year that would have cost Bojo a pretty penny.

So whichever term you find fits that specific reasoning better you may use.

You still angry about poor MM and his zoo trip? Why are you so upset?

Ollie Cromwell · 27-04-2021 11:07am

FileNotFound wrote: »

I often think (its) this higher level of education that allows us to be less bitter and angry than the average brit.

Are you sure ?

FileNotFound · 27-04-2021 11:12am

Ollie Cromwell wrote: »

Are you sure ?

I love when a poster goes after grammar, means they have little if anything better to add.

Just my own opinion mind you, not seen anything to say otherwise.. I just find us more forward thinking. Half the UK still wishes they were in WW2 - a real look over the shoulder mindset i never understood.

Then again that poor education system hardly taught them much of their real history in the world. Guess its not the peoples fault.

Ollie Cromwell · 27-04-2021 11:21am

FileNotFound wrote: »

I love when a poster goes after grammar, means they have little if anything better to add.

Just my own opinion mind you, not seen anything to say otherwise.. I just find us more forward thinking. Half the UK still wishes they were in WW2 - a real look over the shoulder mindset i never understood.

Then again that poor education system hardly taught them much of their real history in the world. Guess its not the peoples fault.

The UK has a population of 60 million people.
How can you know their average level of intelligence or whether they would all like to be back in the Second World War ?
This is just a lazy and sweeping generalisation based on your opinion and no facts.

FileNotFound · 27-04-2021 11:23am

EddieN75 wrote: »

World debating championship material

If you think so.. Maybe you're onto something.

But that might be a popular opinion and thus be misplaced here.

EddieN75 · 27-04-2021 11:24am

FileNotFound wrote: »

Whichever one fits the definition the Eu had pur on the Caymans, I understand there was a legal change in Feb last year that would have cost Bojo a pretty penny.

So whichever term you find fits that specific reasoning better you may use.

You still angry about poor MM and his zoo trip? Why are you so upset?

You don't understand anything you are trying to talk about. That is the issue here.

Realities and facts are being met with opinion and juvenile insults.

Good luck to ya. Enjoy the zoo

FileNotFound · 27-04-2021 11:24am

Ollie Cromwell wrote: »

The UK has a population of 60 million people.
How can you know their average level of intelligence or whether they would all like to be back in the Second World War ?
This is just a lazy and sweeping generalisation based on your opinion and no facts.

You should practice your reading, then take a look at the title of the thread you're trolling.

It might help...

FileNotFound · 27-04-2021 11:27am

EddieN75 wrote: »

You don't understand anything you are trying to talk about. That is the issue here.

Realities and facts are being met with opinion and juvenile insults.

Good luck to ya. Enjoy the zoo

Where was the insult, I merely told you to use the term you with you're greater knowledge can apply to the use of offshore accounts to avoid paying tax.

Now your hating me for going to the Zoo??? Is it the zoo you hate?

As I mentioned to Ollie, this is literally the "Unpopular opinions" thread. Maybe you got lost here on the way to a better discussion.

Guess since nobody has been able to provide anything to change my opinion it must be right.

joseywhales · 27-04-2021 11:37am

I cannot identify the opinion being opined

Stihl waters · 28-04-2021 9:57pm

Why in the name of jesus titty fcukin christ are we sending aid to the 5th biggest economy in the world with it's own space and nuclear programmes, there must be something seriously wrong with the Indians that they leave people to die on the streets while prioritising spending on seeing the moon a little closer and having nuclear weapons to play with

29-04-2021 12:42am

Stihl waters wrote: »

Why in the name of jesus titty fcukin christ are we sending aid to the 5th biggest economy in the world with it's own space and nuclear programmes, there must be something seriously wrong with the Indians that they leave people to die on the streets while prioritising spending on seeing the moon a little closer and having nuclear weapons to play with

The two biggest populations in the world are separated only by the Himalayas, have completely different societies and governments, and have had border skirmishes up until very recently.

It's hardly surprising that Asia's two biggest players are acting out their own space race, and frankly, India spends so little on it, it's hardly a thing in a country of over 1.3bn people and a GDP of 2.8tr.

I mostly agree with the aid argument, but then countries that have wasted far more money still receive it. And I think if a billion people can't come together and throw in a couple of dollars to go to space, even if poor, what's the point.

It isn't money thrown into the ocean either. It's high tech jobs and support of cutting edge industries. Space programs always drive countries forward.

suicide_circus · 29-04-2021 1:37am

No harm keeping India on side.

Brian? · 29-04-2021 8:23am

Ollie Cromwell wrote: »

Name me any other politician who isn't a self-serving opportunist.
Boris actually took a pay cut to become Prime Minister and he must have some alimony to pay ...

Living or dead?

29-04-2021 2:47pm

Amazon = Ebay++

Wallet Inspector · 29-04-2021 6:05pm

I think the Covid crisis has been managed very well in this country, and that people whining don't know what they're whining about - it's just their default position.

Wallet Inspector · 30-04-2021 12:32pm

Ireland is such a great place to live. Indian guy at work is astounded at the benefits available. You'd need to be well off to live like that in India.

I'm glad there are such state supports here, as it's not right for people to be let fend for themselves no matter how poor. But the lack of gratitude/perspective from some is extraordinary at times.

FileNotFound · 30-04-2021 12:41pm

Wallet Inspector wrote: »

Ireland is such a great place to live. Indian guy at work is astounded at the benefits available. You'd need to be well off to live like that in India.

I'm glad there are such state supports here, as it's not right for people to be let fend for themselves no matter how poor. But the lack of gratitude/perspective from some is extraordinary at times.

What is introduced as a gift quickly becomes a right. Such is life.

We have free healthcare (sure you can go private if you like too), free education (some even get paid to go), good employment rights, solid unemployment assistance, low violence society, housing supports etc. etc. etc.

Sure now people think they have a right to a free house, in the center of Dublin city or maybe overlooking dunloaighre harbour.

suicide_circus · 30-04-2021 12:47pm

Wallet Inspector wrote: »

I think the Covid crisis has been managed very well in this country, and that people whining don't know what they're whining about - it's just their default position.

I don't think you can make that determination yet.

Ash.J.Williams · 30-04-2021 12:49pm

Indians are lovely, they’re so well integrated now in engineering and IT they it’s only when they take holidays to go home and marry a stranger you really notice a cultural difference

Iscreamkone · 30-04-2021 12:51pm

suicide_circus wrote: »

I don't think you can make that determination yet.

You can definitely make that determination about the whiners

suicide_circus · 30-04-2021 12:54pm

Iscreamkone wrote: »

You can definitely make that determination about the whiners

Isn't everyone a whinger at certain times? Unless you've achieved absolute oneness with the universe of course.

Jeremy Sproket · 30-04-2021 12:59pm

If a person is found to be speeding in the lead up to an accident, they and they alone should be held accountable regardless of what happened.

Ash.J.Williams · 30-04-2021 1:06pm

Jeremy Sproket wrote: »

If a person is found to be speeding in the lead up to an accident, they and they alone should be held accountable regardless of what happened.

No , holding a good driver going over the speed limit for a crash caused by an absolute dufus helps nobody and empowers gob****es

FileNotFound · 30-04-2021 1:07pm

Jeremy Sproket wrote: »

If a person is found to be speeding in the lead up to an accident, they and they alone should be held accountable regardless of what happened.

I'd disagree - sure they should be done for it but if the other party did something stupid they should suffer accordingly.

2 people in the wrong - they can sort their own cars out and let that be the end of it.

cnocbui · 30-04-2021 1:09pm

Jeremy Sproket wrote: »

If a person is found to be speeding in the lead up to an accident, they and they alone should be held accountable regardless of what happened.

What absolute nonsense. You must be one of those myriad Irish drivers who pull out of small country side roads onto major 100 kph roads in front of oncomming traffic and expect them to do an emergency brake to avoid hitting you.

Wallet Inspector · 30-04-2021 1:26pm

suicide_circus wrote: »

Isn't everyone a whinger at certain times? Unless you've achieved absolute oneness with the universe of course.

But obviously some whinge far more than others. There are people who complain about anything whatsoever - just for the sake of it.

And those who make sh1t up when struggling to find something to whinge about - e.g. those who say the people in old folks' homes were "killed by the government".

JimmyVik · 30-04-2021 1:44pm

Throwing lycra on and going for a cycle does not make you an Athlete

FileNotFound · 30-04-2021 1:45pm

suicide_circus wrote: »

Isn't everyone a whinger at certain times? Unless you've achieved absolute oneness with the universe of course.

Not true, I don't whinge - I shout my opinions down others throats until they give up and accept them....

Maybe I am at oneness with the universe, currently can only find 1 shoe and need to go out

FileNotFound · 30-04-2021 1:48pm

JimmyVik wrote: »

Throwing lycra on and going for a cycle does not make you an Athlete

Many lycra wearing cyclists actively compete in racing or Tri so are actually athletes.

:D:D

JimmyVik · 30-04-2021 1:55pm

FileNotFound wrote: »

Many lycra wearing cyclists actively compete in racing or Tri so are actually athletes. :D:D

Come on be honest. 90% of the people down the cycling club are not athletes or competing in triathalon. And the races we compete in, you can hardly be called an athlete for competing in them.

30-04-2021 1:59pm

Cyclists should be taxed a small amount for the use of public roads, and paths.

Just as e-sccoters should be.

Its only fair.

The Raging Bile Duct · 30-04-2021 2:05pm

My brother's a friend with a Freeman of Ireland type on Facebook who rants about the sheeple obeying the corporate enforcers (the Garda) and wearing masks during this scandemic. He blames fluoridation for the meekness of the Irish and fights everybody he can about not wearing a mask in public areas because he is 'exempt on medical grounds' and then goes on about GDPR and data protection if anyone challenges him on this. This all gets wrapped up in images of the brave men and women of 1916. Oh and chemtrails make an appearance as well.

He's an absolute tool but I can't help doomscrolling his facebook page every couple of days and being fascinated by the absolute bilge he believes in and the amount of idiots that are out there that support him.

FileNotFound · 30-04-2021 2:06pm

85603 wrote: »

Cyclists should be taxed a small amount for the use of public roads, and paths.

Just as e-sccoters should be.

Its only fair.

If you charge road tax then you automatically give permission for cyclists and scooters to take the middle of the road they equally pay for.

Then you would have to obey overtaking rules accordingly.

Otherwise you are asking for a group to pay for the road and then tell them to use a path????

I'd rather cyclists not pay and stay in the cycle paths.

FileNotFound · 30-04-2021 2:09pm

JimmyVik wrote: »

Come on be honest. 90% of the people down the cycling club are not athletes or competing in triathalon. And the races we compete in, you can hardly be called an athlete for competing in them.

That would be just plain incorrect now.. Being as the definition of an athlete is:

A person who has undertaken training or exercises to become proficient in physical activities such as competitive sports

So by definition they are athletes. Even if the level of competition is abysmal.

:D:D

freshpopcorn · 30-04-2021 2:13pm

Jeremy Sproket wrote: »

If a person is found to be speeding in the lead up to an accident, they and they alone should be held accountable regardless of what happened.

So if Sally and Gail are driving down to London on the M6 they are overtaking traffic in lane 3 and are breaking the speed limits by 8mph.
Audrey gets confused and drives the wrong way down the motorway and crashes into Sally and Gail.
Is Audrey correct because she wasn’t speeding?

JimmyVik · 30-04-2021 2:51pm

FileNotFound wrote: »

That would be just plain incorrect now.. Being as the definition of an athlete is:

A person who has undertaken training or exercises to become proficient in physical activities such as competitive sports

So by definition they are athletes. Even if the level of competition is abysmal. :D:D

See what i mean

cnocbui · 30-04-2021 4:16pm

Vehicle taxation should be solely on the weight of the vehicle, not on whether it's private or commercial or it's energy source.

Damage to roads is a whopping 4th power relationship by weight - meaning a lightly taxed, but heavy, Tesla LR does 4.3 times as much damage to a road as say a 1285 Kg petrol driven hatch back. But the Tesla will be taxed 1/6th as much in road tax, which is based on emissions.

A large Semi truck will do as much damage to a road as 9,600 cars.

The weight of a vehicle also makes a massive difference in terms of societal cost due to injuries in vehicle accidents, with drivers of heavier vehicles reducing their own level of injuries if they collide with a lighter vehicle, while worsening the injuries - or killing - those in the lighter vehicle.

It's beyond weird that governments seem to see no moral hazard to allowing heavy vehicle drivers to basically transfer their share of personal injury and deaths to people in lighter vehicles, with no consequence or cost. In the US, it's basically a vehicle weight and size arms race, which has lead to 'trucks' being the most popular vehicle segment. You even have a few utter loons here in Ireland who are champing at the bit to import and drive 4,550Kg Tesla Cybertrucks - a guaranteed death sentence for almost any other motorist involved in anything but a minor collision with one.

Taxing vehicles by their weight would be more appropriate than by their emissions.

The Raging Bile Duct · 30-04-2021 4:36pm

cnocbui wrote: »

Vehicle taxation should be solely on the weight of the vehicle, not on whether it's private or commercial or it's energy source.

Damage to roads is a whopping 4th power relationship by weight - meaning a lightly taxed, but heavy, Tesla LR does 4.3 times as much damage to a road as say a 1285 Kg petrol driven hatch back. But the Tesla will be taxed 1/6th as much in road tax, which is based on emissions.

A large Semi truck will do as much damage to a road as 9,600 cars.

The weight of a vehicle also makes a massive difference in terms of societal cost due to injuries in vehicle accidents, with drivers of heavier vehicles reducing their own level of injuries if they collide with a lighter vehicle, while worsening the injuries - or killing - those in the lighter vehicle.

It's beyond weird that governments seem to see no moral hazard to allowing heavy vehicle drivers to basically transfer their share of personal injury and deaths to people in lighter vehicles, with no consequence or cost. In the US, it's basically a vehicle weight and size arms race, which has lead to 'trucks' being the most popular vehicle segment. You even have a few utter loons here in Ireland who are champing at the bit to import and drive 4,550Kg Tesla Cybertrucks - a guaranteed death sentence for almost any other motorist involved in anything but a minor collision with one.

Taxing vehicles by their weight would be more appropriate than by their emissions.

The problem with that is the cost of transporting goods absolutely skyrockets and hits everybody in the pocket.

magicbastarder · 01-05-2021 12:37am

there's a balance to be struck there between the maximum weight the vehicle can carry, versus the actual weight of the vehicle
for the tesla (i did not know it weighed that much), the vehicle itself *vastly* outweighs its expected payload. for a truck carrying 20 tons of veg, the payload considerably outweighs the vehicle.

maybe that could be used as a metric. the tesla can carry passengers weighing maybe 10% of its weight, but a delivery truck can carry a load four times its weight. so the tesla has its road tax weighted 40 times more than the delivery truck, because its actual utility is one fortieth that of the delivery truck.

Stihl waters · 01-05-2021 6:17am

The Raging Bile Duct wrote: »

doomscrolling his facebook

What?

EDit · 01-05-2021 6:35am

freshpopcorn wrote: »

So if Sally and Gail are driving down to London on the M6 they are overtaking traffic in lane 3 and are breaking the speed limits by 8mph.
Audrey gets confused and drives the wrong way down the motorway and crashes into Sally and Gail.
Is Audrey correct because she wasn’t speeding?

Is this a plot from Coronation Street?

01-05-2021 6:46am

The Raging Bile Duct wrote: »

My brother's a friend with a Freeman of Ireland type on Facebook who rants about the sheeple obeying the corporate enforcers (the Garda) and wearing masks during this scandemic. He blames fluoridation for the meekness of the Irish and fights everybody he can about not wearing a mask in public areas because he is 'exempt on medical grounds' and then goes on about GDPR and data protection if anyone challenges him on this. This all gets wrapped up in images of the brave men and women of 1916. Oh and chemtrails make an appearance as well.

He's an absolute tool but I can't help doomscrolling his facebook page every couple of days and being fascinated by the absolute bilge he believes in and the amount of idiots that are out there that support him.

Come on now! Freemen, fluoride and chemtrails? 2010 called and wants its conspiracies back.

Stihl waters · 01-05-2021 6:48am

freshpopcorn wrote: »

So if Sally and Gail are driving down to London on the M6 they are overtaking traffic in lane 3 and are breaking the speed limits by 8mph.
Audrey gets confused and drives the wrong way down the motorway and crashes into Sally and Gail.
Is Audrey correct because she wasn’t speeding?

By their logic, yes, it's a pretty bomb proof theory tbf

suicide_circus · 01-05-2021 7:41am

The Raging Bile Duct wrote: »

doomscrolling his facebook page .

Stihl waters wrote: »

What?

The Raging Bile Duct · 01-05-2021 10:44am

Stihl waters wrote: »

What?

Continually scrolling through bad story after bad story and concentrating on the negative on social media even though it's no good for your mental health.

It is melting my head knowing many absolute loolahs are out there that believe that scutter but it's kind of hypnotic as well.

The Raging Bile Duct · 01-05-2021 10:44am

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Come on now! Freemen, fluoride and chemtrails? 2010 called and wants its conspiracies back.

They never went away you know...

magicbastarder · 01-05-2021 11:10am

JimmyVik wrote: »

Come on be honest. 90% of the people down the cycling club are not athletes or competing in triathalon. And the races we compete in, you can hardly be called an athlete for competing in them.

ah here, this is the thread for *unpopular* opinions. if you don't get significant pushback, you're in the wrong thread.

castletownman · 01-05-2021 1:55pm

Jeremy Sproket wrote: »

If a person is found to be speeding in the lead up to an accident, they and they alone should be held accountable regardless of what happened.

I would hazard a guess that slow drivers are just as accountable for causing crashes, as they tend to cause frustration in someone caught behind them.

Most rationale people don't intend to drive over the speed-limit or try risky over-taking (those that do it deliberately are a different story), but if your caught behind someone crawling well BELOW the speed limit and are late to wherever your going, mistakes can happen.

I think there should be a minimum speed limit on certain sections/types of roads. I mean I've seen an ould one pottering along on the M50 and cars zig-zagging around lanes to overtake. If L plates and tractors aren't allowed on motorways, there should be a certain standard of driving too.

nullzero · 01-05-2021 9:56pm

FileNotFound wrote: »

Many lycra wearing cyclists actively compete in racing or Tri so are actually athletes. :D:D

By that logic every fat auld fella playing 5 a side astro league is a professional footballer.

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