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Housing Minister issues wind warning

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  • #52
    porsche boy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,560 ✭✭✭porsche boy


    Fr_Dougal wrote:
    There are very few people in this country without a roof over their head. Actual homeless numbers are being inflated by the ‘Foreva Home’ crew.

    Proof/source please?


  • #53
    Hitman3000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,596 ✭✭✭Hitman3000


    JohnnyFlash wrote:
    The opening posts of this thread read like the comments section of the Journal.


    If you are looking for serious discourse it's unlikely you will find it in this section of Boards.


  • #54
    Franz Von Peppercorn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,070 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn


    Olsky wrote: »
    They are your friends and neighbours and your family.
    They are all the people that are a little more fearful and anxious tonight because a nationwide orange alert wind warning has been issued.

    The point of these alerts isn’t to panic people but to get them aware of storms that can and in fact do kill people.


  • #55
    Olsky
    Registered Users Posts: 199 ✭✭Olsky


    lawred2 wrote: »

    Sure it's nothing life threatening but no harm with a mid level warning.

    Stop talking crap.

    Thats kinda my point. There is a lot wrong with mid level warnings. Particularly when they are continuous and become normalised.
    Warnings help to incolculate fear and anxiety in a population.


  • #56
    Olsky
    Registered Users Posts: 199 ✭✭Olsky


    Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »
    The point of these alerts isn’t to panic people but to get them aware of storms that can and in fact do kill people.

    The point of these alerts is the creation of fear and anxiety in the population.
    So yes . Be afraid. The wind might kill you.


  • #57
    Ha Long Bay
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,322 ✭✭✭✭Ha Long Bay


    porsche boy wrote: »
    Proof/source please?

    Focus Ireland

    https://www.focusireland.ie/resource-hub/about-homelessness/

    In March 2018, the official rough sleeping count confirmed 110 people sleeping rough in Dublin, with an additional number in the Night Café, without a place to sleep.


  • #58
    dxhound2005
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,388 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    Olsky wrote: »
    Thats kinda my point. There is a lot wrong with mid level warnings. Particularly when they are continuous and become normalised.
    Warnings help to incolculate fear and anxiety in a population.

    You should be grateful that meteorologists are continually monitoring the weather conditions. But there is no need for you to make the results of their work be a continuous feature in your life.


  • #59
    For Forks Sake
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,654 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake


    porsche boy wrote: »
    Proof/source please?

    Rough sleepers in Dublin (those actually on the streets without shelter): 110 source Dublin Region Homeless Executive


  • #60
    lawred2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,457 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    Olsky wrote: »
    Thats kinda my point. There is a lot wrong with mid level warnings. Particularly when they are continuous and become normalised.
    Warnings help to incolculate fear and anxiety in a population.

    What?

    This is an actual storm which people need to be warned about.

    This isn't "just a bit of wind."


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  • #61
    Jimmy.
    Site Banned Posts: 386 ✭✭Jimmy.


    You’re worse to be providing a link. What is this place turning into a mini Judge Judy


  • #62
    gozunda
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    Olsky wrote: »
    Well. This will get me crucified but.. The irish have a weather obsession that is abnormal and unusual.. It seems to be the main topic of conversation here. No other race has anywhere near the weather preoccupation of the Irish.
    And most other races would also think that a bit of wind would be worthy of a "weather warning" to be ridiculous and laughable

    And so what if the 'Irish' have certain cultural idiosyncrasies? Why do we need others to point this out to us? Tbh I see a lot of this on Boards where we have somebody tell us locals / natives what and how to think. Even what we should be freekin eating and believing :rolleyes:

    It's patronising and bordering on racism imo. If the country is really that seriously annoying / bad - how do you stand it?


  • #63
    Hitman3000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,596 ✭✭✭Hitman3000


    Fair play to the minister hopefully someone will think of some method to inform the populace of impending bad weather . Maybe a bulletin after the news on RTE .....


  • #64
    dxhound2005
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,388 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    I thought RTE closed down years ago.


  • #65
    Franz Von Peppercorn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,070 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn


    Olsky wrote: »
    The point of these alerts is the creation of fear and anxiety in the population.
    So yes . Be afraid. The wind might kill you.

    No. You keep repeating this inane crap.

    By the way other countries like the US have multiple dedicated weather channels - 24 hours of weather reporting, most of it panicky. Tropical storm Florence being the latest example of ten day 24 hour coverage.

    Ireland has a met.ie app and a 5 minute weather forecast after the 9 O’clock news. Oh, and a minister tweeted.

    In fact I know there’s a weather warning because this thread mentioned it.


  • #66
    Olsky
    Registered Users Posts: 199 ✭✭Olsky


    lawred2 wrote: »
    What?

    This is an actual storm which people need to be warned about.

    This isn't "just a bit of wind."

    Is it really? Has your reality perhaps been shaped by the weather warning and the weather hysteria you purport to not be affected by.

    No idea where in Ireland you are but try a little experiment.
    Open you front door and step outside for a few minutes.
    Is it really an actual dangerous storm as you have been informed and as you have come to believe.

    Or is it maybe just a bit of wind?


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  • #67
    Franz Von Peppercorn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,070 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn


    Hitman3000 wrote: »
    Fair play to the minister hopefully someone will think of some method to inform the populace of impending bad weather . Maybe a bulletin after the news on RTE .....

    Oh fcuk no that would panic the population.


  • #68
    Star Bingo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,366 ✭✭✭Star Bingo


    What a fart monger. He’s like the uncle that sits on your face and lets rip


  • #69
    Franz Von Peppercorn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,070 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn


    Olsky wrote: »
    Is it really? Has your reality perhaps been shaped by the weather warning and the weather hysteria you purport to not be affected by.

    No idea where in Ireland you are but try a little experiment.
    Open you front door and step outside for a few minutes.
    Is it really an actual dangerous storm as you have been informed and as you have come to believe.

    Or is it maybe just a bit of wind?

    Hasn’t arrived yet, genius.


  • #70
    dxhound2005
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,388 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    Olsky wrote: »
    Is it really? Has your reality perhaps been shaped by the weather warning and the weather hysteria you purport to not be affected by.

    No idea where in Ireland you are but try a little experiment.
    Open you front door and step outside for a few minutes.
    Is it really an actual dangerous storm as you have been informed and as you have come to believe.

    Or is it maybe just a bit of wind?

    I'm going for a swim in the sea now. But for the love of God please please do not follow that advice tomorrow.


  • #71
    Gimme A Pound
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,482 ✭✭✭Gimme A Pound


    Ninthlife wrote: »
    Whats wrong with him tweeting this?
    He's a politician, simple as that.
    Olsky wrote: »
    Whenever I hear a weather warning I am reminded of the use of fear as a means of controlling and distracting populaces in 1984
    A lot of people compare Orwell's 1984 to very non 1984 type stuff.


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  • #72
    Odyssey 2005
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,065 ✭✭✭✭Odyssey 2005


    He must be going to make a speech...


  • #73
    dav3
    Registered Users Posts: 1,671 ✭✭✭dav3


    porsche boy wrote: »
    Proof/source please?

    9,891 Homeless according to the government and worst housing minister we've had for some time.

    https://www.housing.gov.ie/housing/homelessness/minister-murphys-statement-july-homeless-figures

    Watch out for the wind folks.


  • #74
    gozunda
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    Odyssey 2005 wrote: »
    He must be going to make a speech...

    Who - the minister or the OP? ;)


  • #75
    dxhound2005
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,388 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    dav3 wrote: »
    9,891 Homeless according to the government and worst housing minister we've had for some time.

    https://www.housing.gov.ie/housing/homelessness/minister-murphys-statement-july-homeless-figures

    Watch out for the wind folks.

    200,000 empty houses out there.


  • #76
    Wheeliebin30
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,593 ✭✭✭Wheeliebin30


    dav3 wrote: »
    9,891 Homeless according to the government and worst housing minister we've had for some time.

    https://www.housing.gov.ie/housing/homelessness/minister-murphys-statement-july-homeless-figures

    Watch out for the wind folks.

    https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=2153182491599325&id=100007227857780&_rdr


  • #77
    Fr_Dougal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,166 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    dav3 wrote: »
    9,891 Homeless according to the government and worst housing minister we've had for some time.

    https://www.housing.gov.ie/housing/homelessness/minister-murphys-statement-july-homeless-figures

    Watch out for the wind folks.

    The number you have quoted have a roof over their heads, they’re not homeless, no more than renters are homeless.


  • #78
    JupiterKid
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 12,888 Mod ✭✭✭✭JupiterKid


    Eoghan Murphy should insread issue a hot air warning...

    ...all the guff that comes out of his gob and sweet FA all action.


  • #79
    JupiterKid
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 12,888 Mod ✭✭✭✭JupiterKid


    Eoghan Murphy should insread issue a hot air warning...

    ...all the guff that comes out of his gob and sweet FA all action.


  • #80
    Wheeliebin30
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,593 ✭✭✭Wheeliebin30


    JupiterKid wrote: »
    Eoghan Murphy should insread issue a hot air warning...

    ...all the guff that comes out of his gob and sweet FA all action.

    Genius.


  • #81
    Jimmy.
    Site Banned Posts: 386 ✭✭Jimmy.


    JupiterKid wrote: »
    Eoghan Murphy should insread issue a hot air warning...

    ...all the guff that comes out of his gob and sweet FA all action.

    He should do an apprenticeship in block laying.


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  • #82
    dav3
    Registered Users Posts: 1,671 ✭✭✭dav3


    Fr_Dougal wrote: »
    The number you have quoted have a roof over their heads, they’re not homeless, no more than renters are homeless.

    The numbers I quoted are from the Department of Housing, Planning and Local Government. Signed off by the Minister for Housing. Data referred to as 'Homelessness Data' by the government.

    Did you read the link? It has big Minister Murphy’s statement on July homeless figures at the top of the page.

    Perhaps you should take it up with him?

    It's certainly getting a lot windier in here.


  • #83
    Hitman3000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,596 ✭✭✭Hitman3000


    Jimmy. wrote:
    He should do an apprenticeship in block laying.


    Would be constructive at least....


  • #84
    whisky_galore
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,515 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    Fr_Dougal wrote: »
    The number you have quoted have a roof over their heads, they’re not homeless, no more than renters are homeless.

    A roof over your head is not necessarily a 'home'.


  • #85
    ChikiChiki
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,950 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    amcalester wrote: »
    Obviously he shouldn’t be doing anything else but building homes by hand until all the “can’t pay, won’t pay” brigade have their fur’eva home.

    Comments like this really worry me. It's as if people that are OK are undermining a very very real housing crisis. A lot of anger seems to be focused away from our highly incompetent governments past and present.

    Divide and conquer alive and well.


  • #86
    Bubbaclaus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,461 ✭✭✭Bubbaclaus


    Kevin Finnerty wrote: »
    Reported. Try thinking for yourself once or twice instead of following the crowd.

    Why? You called the actions of the minister of the department responsible for Met Eireann "juvenile at best" for providing an update from Met Eireann. Very odd.

    Even if he wasn't the minister, describing the posting of a Met Eireann update onto a personal account on twitter as juvenile is both odd and juvenile at best.


  • #87
    Fr_Dougal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,166 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    whisky_galore wrote: »
    A roof over your head is not necessarily a 'home'.

    In that case should renters be allowed to call themselves homeless if they choose? If you don’t have a garden to your liking and your gaff doesn’t feel like a ‘home’ should you be able to change the definition of homeless to suit yourself?

    Homeless seems to have been redefined over the last few years. For me, homeless is when you don’t have a roof over your head.


  • #88
    McMurphy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    I'm certainly not one from shying away from giving Eoghan or any of his pals some criticism, but I can't find any to throw at him here.

    Minister/TD issues wind warning when when we have a dose of windy weather (or more aptly - a storm)?

    What's to be outraged by here:confused:


  • #89
    Signore Fancy Pants
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,687 ✭✭✭Signore Fancy Pants


    Fr_Dougal wrote: »
    There are very few people in this country without a roof over their head. Actual homeless numbers are being inflated by the ‘Foreva Home’ crew.

    You're full of poop Fr.Doodoohead.

    "Der r 5 milleon poeple in Irelend but der r 8 milleon homless poeple on da streets.

    De guvrnmint has 10 milleon housez boarded up but dey wont give dem to da poeple becoz de gubbermint need them for demselves.

    All i want is a foweva home fur my crotch gremlins. I dont want ta wurk for da money, 50 grand is enuf fur me. I mit hav two mor kids to get me up ta 60 grand if a few years.

    Im a traveller dat refuses to travel. I cant be gettin da Luas.

    The gubbermint neess to get dese homeless poeple jobs so dey can fund my lifestyle".


    I love Ireland and it's people but theres something wrong when career welfare recipients "earn" more money than a person working full time hours.

    I have no problem with people who genuinely cant work for whatever reason...its just the lazy and entitled that get up my goat.

    Its worse when these fcukers give out about not being looked after enough by the State.

    How's about doing something productive with yourselves....and not in the form of a "protest" to get more from the country than what you have put in.

    It seems these protests are the only thing they are willing to do....as long as its not a job, they will do it.


  • #90
    TheShow
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,157 ✭✭✭TheShow


    ChikiChiki wrote: »
    Comments like this really worry me. It's as if people that are OK are undermining a very very real housing crisis. A lot of anger seems to be focused away from our highly incompetent governments past and present.

    Divide and conquer alive and well.

    Who is undermining the housing crisis. This thread is having a pop at the minister for tweeting a weather alert warning.
    The perpetually offended are a laughing stock really.

    There is no doubt he is over his head, however he is entitled to make a tweet about a weather warning.


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  • #91
    Turnipman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 789 ✭✭✭Turnipman


    Olsky wrote: »
    The point of these alerts is the creation of fear and anxiety in the population.
    So yes . Be afraid. The wind might kill you.

    The following should wipe the cretinous smirk off your smug face - although it probably won't. :mad:

    Woman Dies After Caravan Blown Off Cliff in Galway


  • #92
    Magnatu
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 260 ✭✭Magnatu


    Turnipman wrote: »
    The following should wipe the cretinous smirk off your smug face - although it probably won't. :mad:

    Woman Dies After Caravan Blown Off Cliff in Galway

    Thousands of people die every day from accidents. And from normal weathee. That is part of life. Does this mean that that we should wrap ourselves up in cotton wool and stay inside fear and apprehension?
    Does not negate the point at all. That warnings designed to make us fearful and apprehensive are not a good thing. So you are terrified of the wind you sad little man and the death of a woman in Galway allows you to justify your fear.


  • #93
    Franz Von Peppercorn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,070 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn


    Magnatu wrote: »
    Thousands of people die every day from accidents. And from normal weathee. That is part of life. Does this mean that that we should wrap ourselves up in cotton wool and stay inside fear and apprehension?
    Does not negate the point at all. That warnings designed to make us fearful and apprehensive are not a good thing. So you are terrified of the wind you sad little man and the death of a woman in Galway allows you to justify your fear.

    Jesus wept. Nobody is terrified you quarterwit sock-puppet.

    Its a warning. You can ignore it or not. One person has died by ignoring it. I pretty much ignored it by cycling to work but I probably wouldn't again.

    But its up to you. Nobody is forcing anything here ( unlike a red warning, the orange is just advisory).

    But you should go wild and go sailing, or kite sailing or whatever you want to do rather than being the hard man on the internet. In fact, please do.


  • #94
    Fr_Dougal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,166 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    Magnatu wrote: »
    Thousands of people die every day from accidents. And from normal weathee. That is part of life. Does this mean that that we should wrap ourselves up in cotton wool and stay inside fear and apprehension?
    Does not negate the point at all. That warnings designed to make us fearful and apprehensive are not a good thing. So you are terrified of the wind you sad little man and the death of a woman in Galway allows you to justify your fear.

    What the hell is your problem?

    It is a valid weather warning.


  • #95
    amcalester
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,121 ✭✭✭amcalester


    Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »
    Jesus wept. Nobody is terrified you quarterwit sock-puppet.

    Its a warning. You can ignore it or not. One person has died by ignoring it. I pretty much ignored it by cycling to work but I probably wouldn't again.

    But its up to you. Nobody is forcing anything here ( unlike a red warning, the orange is just advisory).

    But you should go wild and go sailing, or kite sailing or whatever you want to do rather than being the hard man on the internet. In fact, please do.

    Quarterwit is my new favourite word.

    Bravo sir, bravo.


  • #96
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Kevin Finnerty wrote: »
    It's not in his remit to issue weather warnings. Tweeting for tweeting sake from a professional account is juvenile at best.

    You mean he shouldn’t be warning people to take responsibility for themselves?

    Or he was warning of the possible risk to lives, like this? https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/caravan-with-woman-50s-inside-blown-off-cliff-in-co-galway-37332432.html


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  • #97
    Jimmy.
    Site Banned Posts: 386 ✭✭Jimmy.


    Fr_Dougal wrote: »
    What the hell is your problem?

    It is a valid weather warning.

    Say a mass there will ya.


  • #98
    Sonics2k
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,253 ✭✭✭Sonics2k


    Magnatu wrote: »
    Thousands of people die every day from accidents. And from normal weathee. That is part of life. Does this mean that that we should wrap ourselves up in cotton wool and stay inside fear and apprehension?
    Does not negate the point at all. That warnings designed to make us fearful and apprehensive are not a good thing. So you are terrified of the wind you sad little man and the death of a woman in Galway allows you to justify your fear.

    I feel like you use the word 'sheeple' quite often.


  • #99
    gozunda
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    National ploughing cancelled today due to storm and wind damage...

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/attachment.php?attachmentid=461643&d=1537354078

    https://m.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=2146001325662795&id=1465738413689093&set=pcb.2146001582329436&source=48

    https://www.facebook.com/96796398469/posts/10156932219733470/


  • #100
    skinny90
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,489 ✭✭✭skinny90


    A young man in northern ireland has died from a falling tree due to the storms...


  • #101
    Irish Guitarist
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,736 ✭✭✭Irish Guitarist


    People in Ireland need to be warned about severe weather as much as possible. During storm Ophelia I could see from my window people carrying on as if nothing was happening. There were people walking, cycling and taking their dogs for a walk. There was this barrier thing around a telephone pole that the council had been working on. At the exact moment a man was walking around this pole a gust of wind blew it down. It missed him by about an inch.

    I don't get this shite of downplaying it. "It's a bit windy". No, there's a storm. And just because it's not that bad where you are it doesn't mean it's the same all over the country.

    This is the kind of shite teenagers do, act like they're too hard to be affected by weather.


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