Could you drink the American way ?

Lillyfae · 17-03-2021 1:06pm

PCeeeee wrote: »

And product placement.

Ya I was going to say this. The bottles on tv and in films is more to do with product placement and advertising. It's very annoying.

For Forks Sake · 17-03-2021 1:27pm

To every problem, a solution. 1l cans. Can be gotten in most offies here.

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banie01 · 17-03-2021 1:29pm

Back in the before time...
A pub in Limerick used to do 5btls in a bucket of ice and a pizza for €20...

Pints are grand, but I have zero aversion to btls in a bar other than the exorbitant pricing.

Zaph · 17-03-2021 2:25pm

ceadaoin. wrote: »

I'm sure its already been said but there's plenty of beers on draft here. Not usually pints though, not sure what the measurement is but it's smaller.

Probably US pints, which are 16 fluid ounces compared to an Irish/UK pint which is 20 fluid ounces.

OMM 0000 · 17-03-2021 4:08pm

For Forks Sake wrote: »

To every problem, a solution. 1l cans. Can be gotten in most offies here.

Oh wow, bringing back memories.

I was on Olkhon Island in the middle of Siberia and there would be little wooden huts selling cans of Baltika.

There was nothing to do there except walk around and enjoy fresh air and lack of people... so me and the other foreigners there enjoyed a lot of these beers.

hynesie08 · 17-03-2021 4:24pm

Beer is one of the few things where the American system of measurement makes sense, a can/bottle is 3/4 of a pint, a pint is 1/4 of a pitcher, and every measurement in between is 4oz.

Lot handier than the Irish system if you actually need to break down how much you had.

partyguinness · 17-03-2021 5:07pm

American drink bottles, the same in Europe or halves. In fact not many countries drink "pints". Bottles are far better and civilised.

I mean when you think about it...a pint is ridiculous.

Zaph · 17-03-2021 5:26pm

partyguinness wrote: »

American drink bottles, the same in Europe or halves. In fact not many countries drink "pints". Bottles are far better and civilised.

I mean when you think about it...a pint is ridiculous.

I fail to see how a bottle of beer can be used as a determination of how civilised a place is. I've been to plenty of bars in the States where pretty much everyone was drinking pints of draft beer, unless it was a particularly strong beer in which case the glass was smaller. And after giving it some thought, I don't see anything especially ridiculous about a pint. If that was the case then how would you describe a 1 litre mass in Munich?

NSAman · 17-03-2021 5:29pm

AlejGuzman68 wrote: »

What is the fixation lately on American standards?

It's obviously Trump's fault!

Can't wait till the beer is deemed cancelled under Biden..;)

blade1 · 17-03-2021 5:29pm

hynesie08 wrote: »

Sometimes, but usually it's cheaper.

I occasionally drink bottles if I'm watching a match over there, because the bartenders swarm like flies as soon as your drink is empty, and you can hide the contents of a bottle easier.

I want my bartenders to swarm when my drink is empty.

partyguinness · 17-03-2021 5:38pm

Zaph wrote: »

I fail to see how a bottle of beer can be used as a determination of how civilised a place is. I've been to plenty of bars in the States where pretty much everyone was drinking pints of draft beer, unless it was a particularly strong beer in which case the glass was smaller. And after giving it some thought, I don't see anything especially ridiculous about a pint. If that was the case then how would you describe a 1 litre mass in Munich?

I suppose ridiculous in the sense that no other fluid/liquid is consumed in such volumes. The beer in Germany is far better...actually no comparison.

Don't get me wrong...I'll pinting away soon enough myself.

OMM 0000 · 17-03-2021 5:41pm

partyguinness wrote: »

Bottles are far better and civilised.

Bottles may be better (debatable) but I don't agree they're more civilised. I've travelled a lot and in general the poorer the country the more likely they are to use bottles, because (a) pints require equipment which costs money and (b) bottles are more trustworthy (less likely to be contaminated). That's why in places like China and North Korea (I've spent time in both) are almost all bottles. Similar with Vietnam, Cambodia, etc.

Then you have the UK, Germany, etc. which are big into pints.

I do get where you're coming from (bottles are "prettier" than a pint and there's less booze in them) but I think in practice places with pints tend to be wealthier.

Tell me how · 17-03-2021 5:42pm

AlejGuzman68 wrote: »

What is the fixation lately on American standards?

To paraphrase Homer Simpson speaking on a topic related to this thread.

"To Alcohol America, the cause of, and solution to all of life's problems."

Rodin · 17-03-2021 5:46pm

An American pint is smaller than our pint.

partyguinness · 17-03-2021 5:57pm

OMM 0000 wrote: »

Then you have the UK, Germany, etc. which are big into pints.

I do get where you're coming from (bottles are "prettier" than a pint and there's less booze in them) but I think in practice places with pints tend to be wealthier.

Maybe it is just that there is a bigger drinking/pub culture in western civilisation rather than wealth (a slightly unusual angle) and perhaps it is just another example of plain old greed/gluttony?

I guess as well it is easier to stay more sensible on bottles than knocking back pints.

silliussoddius · 17-03-2021 6:06pm

Rodin wrote: »

An American pint is smaller than our pint.

The beer tends to be stronger, a lot are over the 7% range and not too difficult to find some over 10%, and you don’t taste the strength

partyguinness · 17-03-2021 6:10pm

silliussoddius wrote: »

The beer tends to be stronger, a lot are over the 7% range and not too difficult to find some over 10%, and you don’t taste the strength

The same in Germany and Begium. Having a gallon of beer is all well and good but you are fcuked after 2-3.

Have you every tried knocking back 10 pints of Erdinger...:o It does not end well.

whatawaster81 · 17-03-2021 6:18pm

Have an aversion to bottles, just not the same at all. Even watching the empties sit there until I make a trip to the bottle bank is a right pain. I like to clear up the evidence of how many I had last night asap.

PTH2009 · 17-03-2021 6:20pm

For Forks Sake wrote: »

To every problem, a solution. 1l cans. Can be gotten in most offies here.

Got a can of that last weekend and enjoyed it, wouldn't drink many of em tho

banie01 · 17-03-2021 8:24pm

PTH2009 wrote: »

Got a can of that last weekend and enjoyed it, wouldn't drink many of em tho

About half as many as I would of Heineken on a sesh

:P

beggars_bush · 17-03-2021 9:10pm

In belgium, France, Germany you get a store rebate for each bottle returned

Mister Vain · 17-03-2021 9:13pm

I haven't drank pints in years. Far too much pissing involved.

Bass Reeves · 17-03-2021 9:33pm

OMM 0000 wrote: »

Bottles may be better (debatable) but I don't agree they're more civilised. I've travelled a lot and in general the poorer the country the more likely they are to use bottles, because (a) pints require equipment which costs money and (b) bottles are more trustworthy (less likely to be contaminated). That's why in places like China and North Korea (I've spent time in both) are almost all bottles. Similar with Vietnam, Cambodia, etc.

Then you have the UK, Germany, etc. which are big into pints.

I do get where you're coming from (bottles are "prettier" than a pint and there's less booze in them) but I think in practice places with pints tend to be wealthier.

You would want to be sure that the bottles were not somewhere that the bottle itself could get contaminated.

I heard of stories of people getting infections from drinking bottles from the bottle itself

tony1980 · 17-03-2021 9:35pm

Mister Vain wrote: »

I haven't drank pints in years. Far too much pissing involved.

Switch to Jameson ðŸ˜‰

Mister Vain · 17-03-2021 10:03pm

tony1980 wrote: »

Switch to Jameson &#55357;&#56841;

I actually did recently.

Strumms · 17-03-2021 10:26pm

partyguinness wrote: »

I suppose ridiculous in the sense that no other fluid/liquid is consumed in such volumes. The beer in Germany is far better...actually no comparison.

Don't get me wrong...I'll pinting away soon enough myself.

German beers can be seriously strong... 5.5% up. Pikantus is 7.3 or something Just a personal thing but I find that quite a lot of beers with an alcohol content of about 5.5% up are not that nice or refreshing...i like a fresher, crisper lighter taste with the French beers you get that..

Bass Reeves · 17-03-2021 10:28pm

tony1980 wrote: »

Switch to Jameson ðŸ˜‰

Powers, a superior whiskey unless you go up a grade in the Jameson

silliussoddius · 17-03-2021 10:29pm

Strumms wrote: »

German beers can be seriously strong... 5.5% up. Pikantus is 7.3 or something Just a personal thing but I find that quite a lot of beers with an alcohol content of about 5.5% up are not that nice or refreshing...i like a fresher, crisper lighter taste with the French beers you get that..

Have you ever had Saisons, they're a Belgian style and are usually very light with a nice funky flavor.

Strumms · 17-03-2021 10:38pm

silliussoddius wrote: »

Have you ever had Saisons, they're a Belgian style and are usually very light with a nice funky flavor.

Nope, never heard of it, good ?

Feisar · 18-03-2021 9:22am

Strumms wrote: »

German beers can be seriously strong... 5.5% up. Pikantus is 7.3 or something Just a personal thing but I find that quite a lot of beers with an alcohol content of about 5.5% up are not that nice or refreshing...i like a fresher, crisper lighter taste with the French beers you get that..

I'd be he same, grand up to 5.9% but after that I can taste the alcohol and it's like meh.

Joe_ Public · 18-03-2021 9:35am

partyguinness wrote: »

The same in Germany and Begium. Having a gallon of beer is all well and good but you are fcuked after 2-3.

Have you every tried knocking back 10 pints of Erdinger...:o It does not end well.

Some years back i spent a bit of time in germany, in the south, and pretty sure i never suffered anything but moderately bad hangovers from drinķing beer, which i consumed in fittingly copious quantities. Would usually be in the absolute horrors but their beer, perhaps something to do with anti chemical production laws, never had that effect. Often ask myself why i never stayed there!

Marcusm · 18-03-2021 12:19pm

Charlie19 wrote: »

I was sold 25 ounce cans over there at a hockey game, now that was a big beer and I would definitely welcome that size over here in a beer I like.

That’s effectively a 750ml bottle which is available here for some beers. I had one of Deuvel last night. San Miguel also comes in a screw top version.

ShatterAlan · 18-03-2021 2:33pm

Quantum Erasure wrote: »

Do Americans pay over $5 for a bottle of beer? I wouldn't mind drinking bottles, if they were the right price

I've paid $10 for a bottle of beer in Manhattan and that was back in 2012. So that's basically $60 for 3 pints. Not cheap.

ShatterAlan · 18-03-2021 2:38pm

Charlie19 wrote: »

I was sold 25 ounce cans over there at a hockey game, now that was a big beer and I would definitely welcome that size over here in a beer I like.

There's a Danish beer called Faxe and it comes in a huge can like a bloody oil drum. Some Spars have it. It's a litre can which is 33 fl oz. It's a good Danish lager too.

Fill your boots.

ShatterAlan · 18-03-2021 2:41pm

TheChizler wrote: »

It's a much easier prop to work with than a pint that will lose head, bubbles, and level that obviously changes.

I don't believe the beers in the movies are actually real on set. The cigarettes certainly aren't. They're herbal cigarettes.

Joe_ Public · 18-03-2021 2:46pm

Remember being in a hotel in ny and paying $12 for a small can of cider, 33ml size i'd say, and it wasn't even nice. In fairness, though, there are certain pubs in dublin city centre where you'd pay close to €8 for a pint so it's not that much different really.

ShatterAlan · 18-03-2021 2:47pm

McGaggs wrote: »

In New York I found loads of places that did pints. The only problem was, the glasses didn't have the 'safety bulge' we'd be familiar with. You be standing holding your pint, and one sufficient condensation had built up on the glass, it'd slip out of your had and smash on the floor. Not good drawing attention to yourself like that when you're under 21 in an American bar.

A beer glass that doesn't have curvature is an abomination.

ShatterAlan · 18-03-2021 2:53pm

PTH2009 wrote: »

Forgot you have to be 21 to drink legally in the USA

would that system work here ??

I don't think there would be a better way to rally every single 18-21 year old to the polls to vote out whatever government brought in such a law.

ShatterAlan · 18-03-2021 5:04pm

Tony EH wrote: »

That's dead in a lot of places now. It used to be called a buy back. You'd get a "freebie" to keep you at the bar.

Didn't see it the last time I was in NYC though. Didn't see it anywhere in San Francisco and that was nearly 10 years ago.

When I lived there in the 90's the rule of thumb was generally every 4th drink was free. You'd put your cash on the bar and the barman would just take from that as you got a new drink. After 3 he'd put a shotglass in front of you denoting that the next one was on the house. Sometimes if you were in a group and having a good time and drinking away he would also just give free shots to your group of 3 or 4. Not being a spirit drinker I'd give HIM the shot or to someone else. A good American barman will remember you if you only come in for 2 or 3 and then leave and when you come back on another day he'll spot you your freebie straight away when you walk in.

I always found it weird to drink bottles in a pub because I'm of the opinion that beer in bottles or cans are for people who don't own a keg setup...i.e. at home or at a party / outing. You go to the pub for draft beer. During my college summers there we used to go to a bit of a dive bar on Long Island. Good fun but they actually didn't have any taps. Everything was in bottles. A lot of sports bars and these places like Chili's have a piss-poor selection of draft beer like Bud, Bud Light, Miller, Coors and crap like that and nothing else. But some will have a few better ones like Stella, Becks and Dinkel Acker or Yuengling on tap. Found a couple of places like that when I was in Kansas in 2019.

I find the American selection of cocktails and mixed drinks to be mind-blowing and though I;m not a spirit drinker per se or even a cocktail fan I am fond of a Bloody Mary and I have had the best BM's in the US.

Their draft beers need improvement though. Their mainstream stuff is just piss.

ShatterAlan · 18-03-2021 5:17pm

Tony EH wrote: »

Doesn't really work in America either. Under 21's can get drink if they want. Just not in pubs.

Plus, as a Yank friend of mine once said, it builds up drinking as something of a Mecca for people. So a lot of kids when they can drink legally get buggered and continue to get buggered until they end up with serious drink problems.

He said he and his mates didn't just go for beers, they went to Whiskey and the likes. Before they knew it several of his friends had an alcohol problem and he developed a nasty habit himself too.

He doesn't drink any more.

Thing is, most Irish people look at drinking as beers and a night out with the mates. Whereas a lot of Americans look at drinking in terms of hard liquor that can get out of control really fast.

+1

I used to see kids aged 21 and thus legal in the bar getting wankered on shots of tequila, peppermint schnapps between rounds of beer. And the girls getting obliterated on Jack and Coke. "Chugging" Jaeger bombs and various other concoctions until they were palatic which wouldn't take long when you're young and quaffing that stuff.

Could you drink the American way ?

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