Gary linekar fish and chips

yoke · 07-09-2020 2:44pm

Thomas Hudson wrote: »

1200 German women assaulted in one night by migrants. The perpetrators were the same 'refugees' that Merkel had shipped in. I don't need that kind of diversity in my country, thanks.

I will support anti-immigration parties and candidates and I will convince others to do so.

Can the law not deal with these people, without tarring the millions of law abiding immigrants with the same brush?

If the law can't deal with them, then the law couldn't deal with a group of ethnic germans who decided to do the same thing either, so the solution is to fix or strengthen the law.

circadian · 07-09-2020 2:44pm

Oh, hi there new user with 14 posts banging on about the national party and incidents without any context or supporting evidence.

You must have been a boards user in a previous life.

Thomas Hudson · 07-09-2020 2:44pm

Penfailed wrote: »

Islamic terrorism...in Ireland? Really?

Why do you think Ireland won't experience Islamic terrorism?

Thomas Hudson · 07-09-2020 2:46pm

yoke wrote: »

Can the law not deal with these people, without tarring the millions of law abiding immigrants with the same brush?

If the law can't deal with them, then the law couldn't deal with a group of ethnic germans who decided to do the same thing either, so the solution is to fix or strengthen the law.

You could just have a sensible immigration policy where small numbers of educated people are allowed in. Not Swedish/German open door insanity.

The men attacking those women should never have been in Germany in the first place.

kenmm · 07-09-2020 2:47pm

Thomas Hudson wrote: »

Why do you think Ireland won't experience Islamic terrorism?

Why do you think it will?

Most Muslims I've met have been hard working family types. You seem to be sh!tting yourself and spreading fear that because a few scammers get through another countries borders that we are going to be over run by extremists. Get a grip lads, it's not going to happen.

Thomas Hudson · 07-09-2020 2:49pm

kenmm wrote: »

Why do you think it will?

Most Muslims I've met have been hard working family types. You seem to be sh!tting yourself and spreading fear that because a few scammers get through another countries borders that we are going to be over run by extremists. Get a grip lads, it's not going to happen.

Because it's happened in Britain, Germany, Sweden, Finland, Spain, Belgium, France.

You are naive to think it could never happen here.

Thelonious Monk · 07-09-2020 2:50pm

Thomas Hudson wrote: »

There's the National Party and there are independents.

Oh well then, maybe they can form a coalition with FF/FG/Greens after the next election.

Thomas Hudson · 07-09-2020 2:53pm

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

Oh well then, maybe they can form a coalition with FF/FG/Greens after the next election.

Why shouldn't I be angry when I see what immigration is doing to Europe?

Problem with your kind is, you are so arrogant you dismiss every valid concern about immigration as 'racism'. You seem to think Europeans are serfs with no say in the future of their countries.

Thelonious Monk · 07-09-2020 2:54pm

Thomas Hudson wrote: »

Why shouldn't I be angry when I see what immigration is doing to Europe?

Problem with your kind is, you are so arrogant you dismiss every valid concern about immigration as 'racism'. You seem to think Europeans are serfs with no say in the future of their countries.

I don't dismiss anything as racism. Race doesn't come into this for me.
Immigration is doing nothing to Europe. It's the most prosperous place in the world with an incredible standard of living. I'll take a few dodgy immigrants if we can have Sweden's healthcare, social services, etc.

yoke · 07-09-2020 2:55pm

Thomas Hudson wrote: »

You could just have a sensible immigration policy where small numbers of educated people are allowed in. Not Swedish/German open door insanity.

The men attacking those women should never have been in Germany in the first place.

Whats a sensible immigration policy?
Any attempt to separate people permanently into "countries" will always lead to conflict between said "countries", as it will always be "us" and "them". It sounds like a sensible policy but it is actually a very stupid policy, exclusivity and isolationism always lead to conflict.

Snickers Man · 07-09-2020 2:56pm

Good man Gary. I've always liked him. Or at least, ever since he couldn't hit a cow's arse with a banjo that day in Stuttgart in 1988

And he's dead right about refugees/immigrants/fish and chips.

All of those terrified at the prospect of their grandchildren being black/brown or (gasp) Polish can feck off! Suggest they watch a couple of episodes of Who Do You Think You Are, to see how ethnically diverse we are already.

Thomas Hudson · 07-09-2020 2:58pm

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

I don't dismiss anything as racism. Race doesn't come into this for me.
Immigration is doing nothing to Europe. It's the most prosperous place in the world with an incredible standard of living.

It has also brought crime and Islamic terrorism. All I want is quite life on my Island home. I don't want Islamic terrorism, I don't want 'asian grooming' gangs or taharrush mass sexual assaults (how come these things never happen in Poland or Hungary?)

I want a sensible immigration policy, small numbers of skilled people, genuine refugees too. Not millions of young men from North Africa and the middle east. I also want foregin criminals to be deported.

It's really not too much to ask, is it?

GT89 · 07-09-2020 2:59pm

Penfailed wrote: »

Islamic terrorism...in Ireland? Really?

https://www.thejournal.ie/jihadist-extremism-ireland-4833339-Oct2019/
https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-30954346.html
https://www.thejournal.ie/man-jailed-funding-islamic-state-4111114-Jul2018/
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/islamic-radicals-met-on-camping-trips-to-wicklow-mountains-1.3763059
https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/courtandcrime/arid-40021364.html

Snickers Man · 07-09-2020 2:59pm

Thomas Hudson wrote: »

You can't send me anywhere friend, I'm Irish

Meh. We could put you on a paddle board and tell the fishing community of the Arran Islands to stay at home for the night.
Just an idea.

yoke · 07-09-2020 3:01pm

To put it another way, its better to have those extra couple of billion people of African or Asian or whatever descent under your banner and contributing to your economy, than uniting under someone else's banner and contributing to them.

America was a prime example of this - even with all it's problems, it was easy for America to eventually beat all the other "established" countries economically and then due to that economic success, in militarily strength due to this. They seem to have forgotten their own mantra of "give us your sick, your poor" etc. which was probably one of their greatest strengths in the past, which no other country had.

Thomas Hudson · 07-09-2020 3:02pm

Snickers Man wrote: »

Meh. We could put you on a paddle board and tell the fishing community of the Arran Islands to stay at home for the night.
Just an idea.

Sounds good to me. I'll have you placed in Molenbeek or Rinkeby or some other vibrant gettho.

kenmm · 07-09-2020 3:19pm

Thomas Hudson wrote: »

Because it's happened in Britain, Germany, Sweden, Finland, Spain, Belgium, France.

You are naive to think it could never happen here.

I'm not naive, but in my list if things to worry about, a random terror attack by extremists pretending to act in the name of God is pretty low down.

Go live on fear then. A few isolated terror incidents by extremists. Hint, the clue items in the name, few people acting at the extreme end of the spectrum.

Like I say, calm down, very little will happen. Plus, no one actually gives a fu(k about about Ireland.

OneEightSeven · 07-09-2020 3:20pm

Penfailed wrote: »

Where did he say that he supported illegal immigration?

When the UK government took in "children" from the Calais Jungle in 2016. In Gary's self-righteous mind, they're refugees. In the real world, they're illegal immigrants.

https://twitter.com/GaryLineker/status/788407048031600640

I'm almost certain he once Tweeted that everybody can come here, but I can't locate the tweet.

OneEightSeven · 07-09-2020 3:25pm

kenmm wrote: »

I'm not naive, but in my list if things to worry about, a random terror attack by extremists pretending to act in the name of God is pretty low down.

Go live on fear then. A few isolated terror incidents by extremists. Hint, the clue items in the name, few people acting at the extreme end of the spectrum.

Like I say, calm down, very little will happen. Plus, no one actually gives a fu(k about about Ireland.

Ireland mightn't have an Islamic terror attack, but these statistics speak volumes about the effects Islamic immigration has on a country.

statesaver · 07-09-2020 3:28pm

kenmm wrote: »

I'm not naive, but in my list if things to worry about, a random terror attack by extremists pretending to act in the name of God is pretty low down.

Go live on fear then. A few isolated terror incidents by extremists. Hint, the clue items in the name, few people acting at the extreme end of the spectrum.

Like I say, calm down, very little will happen. Plus, no one actually gives a fu(k about about Ireland.

Seems to me you're preparing yourself.
I'm sure the British, Germans, Swedes, Spanish, French etc once felt the same as you.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts · 07-09-2020 3:28pm

Birneybau wrote: »

How much do you pay towards it? This place has gone to the dogs, all the sockpuppet moronic accounts.

I know, right? Yes, yes, defund that thing I pay the square root of fuck all for. Unless that poster is in the UK, what is with the adoption of slogans from other countries?

kenmm · 07-09-2020 3:30pm

OneEightSeven wrote: »

Ireland mightn't have an Islamic terror attack, but these statistics speak volumes about the effects Islamic immigration has on a country.

I don't think you can tar all Muslims with the same brush. You have some stats that show something going on all right, needs a little more work.

kenmm · 07-09-2020 3:33pm

statesaver wrote: »

Seems to me you're preparing yourself.
I'm sure the British, Germans, Swedes, Spanish, French etc once felt the same as you.

Preparing for what? I'm not saying nothing terror related will ever happen on Irish soil. Ive lived UK and other countries where attacks happen. It's just pretty low down on my list of this to be concerned about. If you want to hide under the duvet, go for it!

Thomas Hudson · 07-09-2020 3:35pm

kenmm wrote: »

I don't think you can take all Muslims with the same brush. You have some stats that show something going on all right, needs a little more work.

In Sweden the majority of rapes are committed by non-EU migrants. The vast majority of stranger and gang rapes are committed by non-EU migrants. I don't accept that as an acceptable price to pay for diversity.

walshb · 07-09-2020 3:37pm

GT89 wrote: »

Anyone see the cringeworthy video of this complete and utter tosspot talking about fish and chips and how if it weren't for refugees coming to England that there wouldn't be fish and chips as if that was justifiable a reason to accept illegal
economic migrants coming to your country to sponge off the system.

Btw I am not one bit racist I am just against illegal immigration. Here's the video it has to be the most cringeworthy thing I have ever seen in my life. Honestly who advised him to do a video like this was a good idea.

https://youtu.be/x-OsT1jA7N8

Forget the message..

Wtf happened to Lineker? He looks like Benjamin fooking Button, at the start of Benjamin’s journey!!!

kenmm · 07-09-2020 3:39pm

Thomas Hudson wrote: »

In Sweden the majority of rapes are committed by non-EU migrants. The vast majority of stranger and gang rapes are committed by non-EU migrants. I don't accept that as an acceptable price to pay for diversity.

I know little about Swedish culture or how their numbers compare to ours.

But I've heard this line a number of times. Sounds a lot like fear mongering to me, but I must look into it.

No idea what this is got to do with Gary Lineker tho?

Thomas Hudson · 07-09-2020 3:42pm

kenmm wrote: »

I know little about Swedish culture or how their numbers compare to ours.

But I've heard this line a number of times. Sounds a lot like fear mongering to me, but I must look into it.

No idea what this is got to do with Gary Lineker tho?

Point is I can see evidence that immigration has had a negative effect on a European country, and yet I am supposed to be 100% ok with immigration into my country, not ask any questions and not have any concerns about the future of my country.

MrStuffins · 07-09-2020 3:42pm

walshb wrote: »

Forget the message..

Wtf happened to Lineker? He looks like Benjamin fooking Button, at the start of Benjamin’s journey!!!

To think that he's six years older than Gazza!

walshb · 07-09-2020 3:54pm

MrStuffins wrote: »

To think that he's six years older than Gazza!

He looks ancient. The neck a real give away..

You would have thought for tv they’d done some better disguising!!

Thelonious Monk · 07-09-2020 3:54pm

Thomas Hudson wrote: »

Point is I can see evidence that immigration has had a negative effect on a European country, and yet I am supposed to be 100% ok with immigration into my country, not ask any questions and not have any concerns about the future of my country.

You're not supposed to be ok with it. You're free to protest outside the Dail if you like. If I were you though I just wouldn't waste my thoughts on something that you can't change. The chances of you getting raped or blown up are still pretty slim, don't worry.

yoke · 07-09-2020 3:58pm

Thomas Hudson wrote: »

Point is I can see evidence that immigration has had a negative effect on a European country, and yet I am supposed to be 100% ok with immigration into my country, not ask any questions and not have any concerns about the future of my country.

And yet you can't see that a large part of the German economy was helped greatly by immigrants - Turkish workers etc.

Why not focus on strengthening or fixing the law instead, because sooner or later if theres a loophole, some home grown crowd or ring or gang will exploit it too.

rightmove · 07-09-2020 4:01pm

kenmm wrote: »

Sounds a lot like fear mongering to me, but I must look into it.

maybe look into it so before commenting

Snickers Man · 07-09-2020 4:03pm

OneEightSeven wrote: »

Ireland mightn't have an Islamic terror attack, but these statistics speak volumes about the effects Islamic immigration has on a country.

Get up the yard, you pea-brained disingenuous muppet!!
OK, I know I'm not supposed to engage in personal attacks but you are insulting the intelligence of everybody here with these misleading and meaningless statistics.

They're misleading because they are offered on a "per 10,000 or per 100,000" basis. Which greatly distorts the alleged guilt of very small communities.

Example: 138 Afghanis (er, per 10,000) committed sexual offences in Finland. Are there 10,000 Afghanis in Finland, or more? If so, that would not reflect well on their sexual behaviour.

But if there were only 1,000 it would mean that, in fact, 14 offences (to round up) had been committed by Afghanis. If there were 500 it would mean that 7 Aghanis had committed a "sexual offence", which could be rape or could be a pinched bottom.

We're already down to single figures. If there were any fewer than 500 Afghanis in Finland, it would mean that a very small number of Afghani men had committed any sort of sexual offence. [EDIT: And that's accumulated over a period of five years!!!. I have no idea how many Afghanis are in Finland but if it's around the 500 mark, it could be argued that these statistics show them to be a very abstemious people in sexual matters.]

This is not to suggest that there is an acceptable level of rape or sexual assault, but it's a nasty statistical trick to suggest that Afghanis are more sexually aggressive than others.

If you doubt this, have a look at the statistics for Corona virus. You know the country with the worst death rate from Coronavirus? By far and away?

San Marino.

Yup. Off the charts, the worst rate. 1,237 deaths per million. More than twice the rate of the UK which has 611, and way more than the American rate of 583 per million. (All of these are today's figures Sept 7, 2020).

What's that in absolute terms? A mere 42 people dead from Covid 19 in San Marino, compared with 41,551 in the UK (nearly 1,000 times as many!!!!) and 193,226 in the USA (more than 4,500 TIMES the number of deaths!!!)

Which is the worst place to be in?

Tell you what: throw up a chart of sexual offences per head of population for each county in Ireland and see where the majority of Irish sexual predators come from per head of population. You can almost guarantee it will be from a sparsely populated county because that's the way statistics roll.

See how credibly your results will be taken.

kenmm · 07-09-2020 4:14pm

rightmove wrote: »

maybe look into it so before commenting

Oh sorry - I forgot about the high quality of posting we have here.

kenmm · 07-09-2020 4:22pm

Snickers Man wrote: »

See how credibly your results will be taken.

I was politely getting around to that, but I am fed up giving people free arithmetic and stats lessons.

The charts sure do look pretty tho, all the colours!

statesaver · 07-09-2020 4:28pm

So, has Gary taken in a refugee yet ?

Penfailed · 07-09-2020 5:14pm

GT89 wrote: »

https://www.thejournal.ie/jihadist-extremism-ireland-4833339-Oct2019/
https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-30954346.html
https://www.thejournal.ie/man-jailed-funding-islamic-state-4111114-Jul2018/
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/islamic-radicals-met-on-camping-trips-to-wicklow-mountains-1.3763059
https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/courtandcrime/arid-40021364.html

So no terrorist attacks then? Just as I thought.

rightmove · 07-09-2020 5:33pm

kenmm wrote: »

Oh sorry - I forgot about the high quality of posting we have here.

No just the blind liberal mafia

kenmm · 07-09-2020 6:30pm

rightmove wrote: »

No just the blind liberal mafia

lol (actual)

GT89 · 07-09-2020 7:54pm

Penfailed wrote: »

So no terrorist attacks then? Just as I thought.

Just because they are not committing atrocities here does not mean they aren't active.

Thelonious Monk · 07-09-2020 8:39pm

GT89 wrote: »

Just because they are not committing atrocities here does not mean they aren't active.

If you want to worry about terrorism in Ireland, the usual suspects are who should concern you. They were in the news today for court case against men who planned on blowing up police cars. Imagine that was a Muslim, the Irish internet would break.

07-09-2020 9:22pm

statesaver wrote: »

So, has Gary taken in a refugee yet ?

bet his creepy brother is interested in who he takes in

Edgware · 08-09-2020 12:52am

Madilynn Slow Manatee wrote: »

bet his creepy brother is interested in who he takes in

Lineker likes the Gary Glitter style beard

GT89 · 08-09-2020 1:13am

Funny thing is people saying it's his free time and money he put it to whatever cause he likes would be out with the pitchforks if he called for tougher border controls and deportations or even involved himself in something a lot less radical like black face or some saucy comments.

The liberals will always twist the argument to suit themselves. Look at the way they have treated Morrissey for supporting Anne Marie Waters versus the way they treat Linekar for supporting refugees.

GT89 · 08-09-2020 1:23am

The fact the Irish left Ireland in the past to seek a better life abroad is completely irrelevant. Firstly during the famine which is an inncorrect term as it was actually a genocide the Irish would have been classed as genuine refugees. I am all for supporting genuine refugees like the Palestinians being persecuted by the Jews but not economic migrants.

If you say but the Irish were once economic migrants too that is irrelevant and quite frankly not our problem.

OneHedge1 · 08-09-2020 2:11am

If I showed up unsolicited at your house I'm fairly certain you'd want me to ring your doorbell. If instead you find me sitting in your kitchen, your anticipated rational reaction is not "racism" but rather a common sense concern. That concern would be heightened if you knew I'd spent the previous nights in your neighbours house. The concern is heightened again because the political classes are thick/greedy/sociopathic.

I do wonder* about the profile of Irish persons who advocate so strongly in the other direction and whether they've accidentally swallowed the line being peddled by some in our media that we were a terribly racist little island back in the '80s.
(*I don't really. Carry on.)

bobbyy gee · 08-09-2020 2:14am

Next he will be telling us with global warming and overfishing
Fish and chips will be off the. Menu

bassy · 08-09-2020 2:23am

fish is slippery to hold and lineker comes across as a slliperary individual.

bassy · 08-09-2020 2:24am

statesaver wrote: »

So, has Gary taken in a refugee yet ?

ye most of the ones at arsenal.

TragicJohnson · 08-09-2020 7:08am

GT89 wrote: »

The fact the Irish left Ireland in the past to seek a better life abroad is completely irrelevant. Firstly during the famine which is an inncorrect term as it was actually a genocide the Irish would have been classed as genuine refugees. I am all for supporting genuine refugees like the Palestinians being persecuted by the Jews but not economic migrants.

If you say but the Irish were once economic migrants too that is irrelevant and quite frankly not our problem.

The Palestinians are being persecuted by the Israelis, not by the Jews.

Gary linekar fish and chips

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