Two teenage boys assaulted in Dublin park

macpaccrack · 25-09-2020 7:20pm #1

https://www.thejournal.ie/witness-appeal-assault-eamonn-ceannt-park-5215115-Sep2020/

Absolute disgrace. I was thinking the attackers were kids but they were adults.

They put a 14 year old child in hospital.

seenitall · 25-09-2020 7:24pm

Very, very emotive vocabulary of reporting there. I could hardly believe I was reading a news page?

macpaccrack · 25-09-2020 7:25pm

seenitall wrote: »

Very, very emotive vocabulary of reporting there. I could hardly believe I was reading a news page?

I mean do you not think it was cowardly to attack two children as adults? Is it not thugish and its been confirmed by the Garda it was racially motivated so what issue do you have?

macpaccrack · 25-09-2020 7:28pm

Witcher wrote: »

Where did the Gardai confirm it to be racially motivated?

Yesterday.

Man with broke phone · 25-09-2020 7:29pm

Maybe it was racist, maybe it was some sort of vigilante stuff, maybe they owed money.

We dont know yet.

I wouldnt believe Dublin Live, they just make stuff up from half stories and facebook rants.

Garda just called it an assault.

emo72 · 25-09-2020 7:30pm

macpaccrack wrote: »

What do you mean? The guards and witnesses have confirmed the children were eating lunch in the park and were viciously assaulted because of their ethnicity

Are you actually trying to defend the brutal assault of children?

Terrible that the kids were attacked at all. But the dublin live website is garbage. "Disgusting yobs". That's not how we talk. Maybe they were just normal yobs. Normal violent racist ones.

Birneybau · 25-09-2020 7:30pm

Gatling wrote: »

So what really happened?

2 kids were on their break in Sundrive Park. 3 scumbags started giving one of them sh!t because be was black. The black young fella was just having his lunch.

Gatling · 25-09-2020 7:30pm

macpaccrack wrote: »

What do you mean?

What really happened ,

Your claiming far right and the gardai have confirmed it which I don't believe they did

XsApollo · 25-09-2020 7:31pm

What ethnicity were that attackers and victims?

Spanish Eyes · 25-09-2020 7:31pm

I would call it an attack, GBH, assault whatever. Racism should never come in to it really, sorry probably opened myself up for attack online now!

Birneybau · 25-09-2020 7:31pm

Man with broke phone wrote: »

Maybe it was racist, maybe it was some sort of vigilante stuff, maybe they owed money.

We dont know yet.

I wouldnt believe Dublin Live, they just make stuff up from half stories and facebook rants.

Garda just called it an assault.

2 young fellas having their lunch. Vigilantes? Ffs. 3 scumbags.

Witcher · 25-09-2020 7:31pm

macpaccrack wrote: »

Yesterday.

I asked where they confirmed it.

Have you a link?

Man with broke phone · 25-09-2020 7:31pm

XsApollo wrote: »

What ethnicity were that attackers and victims?

We dont know.

Birneybau · 25-09-2020 7:33pm

https://www.thejournal.ie/witness-appeal-assault-eamonn-ceannt-park-5215115-Sep2020/

Gatling · 25-09-2020 7:33pm

Birneybau wrote: »

Vigilantes? Ffs. 3 scumbags.

Vigilantes would sugguest it wasn't a random attack on two kids eating lunch in crumlin

Birneybau · 25-09-2020 7:34pm

Gatling wrote: »

Vigilantes would sugguest it wasn't a random attack on two kids eating lunch in crumlin

I'm from around there, 3 scumbags and a scumbag bird with a baby in a buggy.

This forum has gone to sh!te

seenitall · 25-09-2020 7:35pm

macpaccrack wrote: »

I mean do you not think it was cowardly to attack two children as adults? Is it not thugish and its been confirmed by the Garda it was racially motivated so what issue do you have?

I just said I found the writing very emotive for a supposed news report. I didn’t put a judgment value on the event itself at all, but just to answer your question, it is despicable to beat up children. The thing that struck me about the article is that this is the first time I see such emphatic, emotionally charged first report on any crime. Perhaps I don’t read enough of these type of articles.

Gatling · 25-09-2020 7:37pm

Birneybau wrote: »

This forum has gone to sh!te

This thread exactly

TheBlackPill · 25-09-2020 7:39pm

seenitall wrote: »

I just said I found the writing very emotive for a supposed news report. I didn’t put a judgment value on the event itself at all, but just to answer your question, it is despicable to beat up children. The thing that struck me about the article is that this is the first time I see such emphatic, emotionally charged first report on any crime. Perhaps I don’t read enough of these type of articles.

There is an agenda with the article. Also detailed description of the attackers' jackets but not the attackers... terrible there is such scum but why cant they release physical descriptions so we can all look out for them

Birneybau · 25-09-2020 7:40pm

Gatling wrote: »

This thread exactly

With your talk of vigilantes, sure.

Here's a Facebook post from one of the parents:

francois · 25-09-2020 7:42pm

If it was 2 white kids who were beaten up by 2 black adults, the tone of replies would be quite different.

bfa1509 · 25-09-2020 7:46pm

seenitall wrote: »

Very, very emotive vocabulary of reporting there. I could hardly believe I was reading a news page?

I thought it was very descriptive given they put "allegedly" before everything. Very precise reporting for something that was done allegedly.

TheBlackPill · 25-09-2020 7:50pm

bfa1509 wrote: »

I thought it was very descriptive given they put "allegedly" before everything. Very precise reporting for something that was done allegedly.

The parent's post was much better than the article. Concise , loads of relevant information. I hope the feral scrotes are caught soon and hope the young man recovers quickly and we all support him.

Rothko · 25-09-2020 7:54pm

Regardless of the motive, they're complete scumbags.

Birneybau · 25-09-2020 8:00pm

francois wrote: »

If it was 2 white kids who were beaten up by 2 black adults, the tone of replies would be quite different.

Perfect

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 25-09-2020 8:02pm

Man with broke phone wrote: »

Maybe it was racist, maybe it was some sort of vigilante stuff, maybe they owed money.

Would this have made it acceptable in your mind?

Guy:Incognito · 25-09-2020 8:02pm

francois wrote: »

If it was 2 white kids who were beaten up by 2 black adults, the tone of replies would be quite different.

yeah, there a distinct lack of replies asking what race the attackers were and saying how its only being left out because they are not white. odd, theres usually a good few of those............

Ash.J.Williams · 25-09-2020 8:08pm

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

I would call it an attack, GBH, assault whatever. Racism should never come in to it really, sorry probably opened myself up for attack online now!

Huh?

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 25-09-2020 8:18pm

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

I would call it an attack, GBH, assault whatever. Racism should never come in to it really, sorry probably opened myself up for attack online now!

Well the accusation said "racial slurs" so that would indicate racism.

Gatling · 25-09-2020 8:25pm

francois wrote: »

If it was 2 white kids who were beaten up by 2 black adults, the tone of replies would be quite different.

Actually no we would be told it never happened and absolutely no mention in media .

This is fact

francois · 25-09-2020 8:26pm

Gatling wrote: »

Actually no we would be told it never happened and absolutely no mention in media .

This is fact

No, that's an opinion

Gatling · 25-09-2020 8:26pm

francois wrote: »

No, that's an opinion

No it's actually Fact

olestoepoke · 25-09-2020 8:32pm

Absolute scum, should be rooted out and heavily punished. Reading that article it doesn't say which direction the racial attack was. I'm presuming it was white adults that attacked black teens otherwise its almost never reported.

olestoepoke · 25-09-2020 8:35pm

francois wrote: »

No, that's an opinion

Unfortunately it is more than an opinion. I live in Balbriggan and there have been numerous racial attacks that don't make the news local or national.

Gatling · 25-09-2020 8:37pm

olestoepoke wrote: »

Unfortunately it is more than an opinion. I live in Balbriggan and there have been numerous racial attacks that don't make the news local or national.

It's quite a regular occurrence unfortunately across the country ,pure silence when it happens

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 25-09-2020 8:38pm

Gatling wrote: »

No it's actually Fact

If it's fact, then can you provide empirical documened evidence.

If you can;t, it's bull****.

Simple really.

Gatling · 25-09-2020 8:40pm

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

If it's fact, then can you provide empirical documened evidence.

Yes ,

Even to the point gardai won't even give descriptions of those involved in attacks and robbery against people on a regular basis

And it's comes up quite regularly and whenever someone speaks up the racist card gets played .

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 25-09-2020 8:46pm

Gatling wrote: »

Yes ,

Even to the point gardai won't even give descriptions of those involved in attacks and robbery against people on a regular basis

And it's comes up quite regularly and whenever someone speaks up the racist card gets played .

That's not what you claimed was fact. Nor is it empricial evidence. Of anything.

Gatling wrote: »

Actually no we would be told it never happened and absolutely no mention in media .

This is fact

Gatling · 25-09-2020 8:49pm

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

That's not what you claimed was fact.

I'm still saying it's fact .

Now the question can I be proved wrong you could try but I'm firmly believe you won't Have anything to dispute the claim

Sephiroth_dude · 25-09-2020 8:52pm

Mod

Thread re-opened, I cleaned up some posts and replaced the dublinlive link with the journal link, keep it civil please and stay on topic.

Deebles McBeebles · 28-09-2020 11:19pm

Witcher wrote: »

I asked where they confirmed it.

Have you a link?

New link in the OP has more details. Its not confirmed but being treated as a possibility.

It’s understood it is being investigated as a possible racially-motivated incident.

https://www.thejournal.ie/witness-appeal-assault-eamonn-ceannt-park-5215115-Sep2020/

Eric Cartman · 28-09-2020 11:25pm

francois wrote: »

If it was 2 white kids who were beaten up by 2 black adults, the tone of replies would be quite different.

if it was that way round the journal probably wouldn't have even run the story. I was wondering was there a colour or sexual orientation difference to the victims that they left the comments open and were so emotive about it.

Errashareesh · 28-09-2020 11:29pm

Whether it was racially motivated or not (and we have no evidence that it wasn't) fixating on the possibility that it wasn't, rather than the attack itself, is bizarre. Poor lads.

We would not be told that an attack on white lads by black lads "never happened". A difference in reporting approach yes but not outright denial.

Gatling · 28-09-2020 11:34pm

Anything odd that 6/7 teenagers in park together and zero evidence it was racially motivated ,ok two lads got a few digs yet no videos or social media steams showing this attack .
There wasn't just two lads enjoying a picnic lunch in the park as reported and soap boxed by the op.

Deebles McBeebles · 28-09-2020 11:36pm

Eric Cartman wrote: »

if it was that way round the journal probably wouldn't have even run the story. I was wondering was there a colour or sexual orientation difference to the victims that they left the comments open and were so emotive about it.

Whats emotive about the article? Seems fairly straightforward reporting of the facts to me.

And where are you getting the idea that it wouldn't be reported if skin colours were reversed?

Deebles McBeebles · 28-09-2020 11:39pm

Gatling wrote: »

zero evidence it was racially motivated

Zero evidence it wasn't. If we're being fair here.

Gatling wrote: »

There wasn't just two lads enjoying a picnic lunch in the park as reported and soap boxed by the op.

Zero evidence for that too.

Eric Cartman · 28-09-2020 11:43pm

Deebles McBeebles wrote: »

Whats emotive about the article? Seems fairly straightforward reporting of the facts to me.

And where are you getting the idea that it wouldn't be reported if skin colours were reversed?

because young lads get digs every day in parks in bad areas. every Saturday night it happens, young lads getting beaten up by lads in their 20s for drug debts happens loads too (not saying this is what this was, just the beating part) , almost none of it is ever reported.

But the second the victim is a woman, black, gay, whatever... and its in the papers.

Yyhhuuu · 28-09-2020 11:46pm

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

I would call it an attack, GBH, assault whatever. Racism should never come in to it really, sorry probably opened myself up for attack online now!

GBH is not in Irish Criminal Law

Gatling · 28-09-2020 11:48pm

Deebles McBeebles wrote: »

Zero evidence it wasn't. If we're being fair here.

Zero evidence for that too.

There has been multiple reports in the media where they said a group of lads were in the park when one was apparently assaulted and a second too .

So the media is wrong about what they were told happened or people on boards who are saying it was only two teenagers

Deebles McBeebles · 28-09-2020 11:54pm

Eric Cartman wrote: »

because young lads get digs every day in parks in bad areas. every Saturday night it happens, young lads getting beaten up by lads in their 20s for drug debts happens loads too (not saying this is what this was, just the beating part) , almost none of it is ever reported.

That's not what you said though. You said if black guys attacked white guys, it wouldn't be reported. I haven't seen any evidence for this.

Eric Cartman wrote: »

But the second the victim is a woman, black, gay, whatever... and its in the papers.

Pretty sure they report crimes where white people are the victims too though. I can understand the view that it might not be racially motivated but crimes on white people being swept under the carpet is a bit far for me. The media were all over the white guy being attacked in Cork, in a suspected racial attack, earlier this year.

Eric Cartman · 28-09-2020 11:58pm

Deebles McBeebles wrote: »

That's not what you said though. You said if black guys attacked white guys, it wouldn't be reported. I haven't seen any evidence for this.

Pretty sure they report crimes where white people are the victims too though. I can understand the view that it might not be racially motivated but crimes on white people being swept under the carpet is a bit far for me. The media were all over the white guy being attacked in Cork, in a suspected racial attack, earlier this year.

im genuinely interested to see this, for the media to label an attack on a white person as racially motivated would be something I've genuinely never seen in Ireland.

Two teenage boys assaulted in Dublin park

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