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Veg plans for 2020

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,131 ✭✭✭Living Off The Splash


    Everything growing well now. Peas, Mange Touts, Broad Beans putting out their tendrils. French Beans still slow. Some mixed variety lettuces very slow to grow also. Watering daily. Using Beetroot leaves in salads. Celeriac....nothing.


  • Registered Users Posts: 364 ✭✭Frogeye


    I had a cheap small polytunnel. It got wacked Friday morning. The cover was blown off exposing all my tomato plants to the wind. I had a few in pots which I brought in when I got home Friday night and I put up a wind breaker around the rest. It was Sunday before the wind was calm enough to put the cover back on. It wasn’t too badly damaged but the tomato plants have a lot of shrivel dried leaves and branches on them. I watered and fed them , hopefully they will recover because I don’t think the garden centres around me have any tomato plants in stock….

    Hopefully that is the end of the wind and frost!

    Frogeye


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,647 ✭✭✭beggars_bush


    Frogeye wrote: »
    I had a cheap small polytunnel. It got wacked Friday morning. The cover was blown off exposing all my tomato plants to the wind. I had a few in pots which I brought in when I got home Friday night and I put up a wind breaker around the rest. It was Sunday before the wind was calm enough to put the cover back on. It wasn’t too badly damaged but the tomato plants have a lot of shrivel dried leaves and branches on them. I watered and fed them , hopefully they will recover because I don’t think the garden centres around me have any tomato plants in stock….

    Hopefully that is the end of the wind and frost!

    Frogeye

    Unlucky
    Most garden centres will have tomatoes or can get them in.
    Bit of potash to help them along


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,067 ✭✭✭✭Seve OB


    About time I threw up a few pics. So the spuds in the pots came up first a good few weeks ago now but the ones in the bed really only took off about a week ago. How does one know when they are ready to harvest? I know it says something like 12 weeks but is that from when they shoot up or when you stick them in the ground. I suppose I’ll be alright taking one up at a time (pots anyway, maybe not the ones in the bed).

    Then the beetroot, three of them there doing ok and one more if you can make it out which just showed yesterday. Did I read something above about chard? Is that the leaves and stalks? What can I do with that? Actually same re the spuds or do you just chuck them in the composter?

    Then the poor little pots with the seeds for sunflowers and beans still showing nothing at all. I keep firing water on them in hope.

    You can also see I like to take a few clippings from my hedge. My dad has a full hedge in his garden from my precious clippings, so hoping I can get even half of these to take and sort him out with another one. I find it can be hit and miss. Other clippings there are roses and climbing geraniums which I snipped out of my grandads garden a few weeks ago. He was a fantastic gardener and I suppose I learnt pretty much most I know about gardening from him. Gone almost 11 years so it’s nice to have a memory of him in my garden.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,067 ✭✭✭✭Seve OB


    Lastly is a little patch which came free a few weeks back when we shifted the kids playhouse. I happened to be in B&Q last week and in the queue for the till they were selling off onions, garlic and spuds for a euro each so I picked up a selection. Wrong time of year I know to be growing them, but sure worst thing that can happen is that they don’t grow. Mind you, perhaps you can see that they are indeed starting to grow already.

    I didn’t use them all, does anyone know if they keep or do they die off if not used?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,067 ✭✭✭✭Seve OB


    Speaking of my grandad, a few years back in high stormy winds a couple of sizeable branches snapped off a standard rose that he had growing. The rose took a right battering and was blown over but I managed to get it back in place and save it for my Nana........ well for a few years anyway. It’s since gone along with her alas.

    But the branches that fell off that time came home with me and thanks to a bit of rooting powder and a pot of compost they don my front and back garden so a nice reminder of them when the summer comes along and they start to bloom.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,890 ✭✭✭CelticRambler


    Seve OB wrote: »
    onions, garlic and spuds for a euro each so I picked up a selection. ...

    I didn’t use them all, does anyone know if they keep or do they die off if not used?

    They will do their best to die off! You can throw them in the salad drawer of the fridge and that might hold them in their current state for several months; alternatively, put them in a box of damp sand/soil in the coolest part of the house/garden where they can grow slowly. Onion sets are already on their way to the finish line when you buy them, so it can be tricky to stop them running to seed; but they're also contrary yokes and (in my garden, at least) seem to grow as and when the mood takes them!

    If you can keep the potatoes on hold, you could consider planting them later in the summer, fairly close together in a bed that's become free. You won't be able to feed the family off the crop, but you should get enough seed potatoes for next year (leave them in the ground till as late as possible)

    Depending on how much garlic you've got (or want), the same applies: put each bulb into a small pot (e.g. yoghurt-sized), let it germinate, water it a bit but not too much, and let it "die" in the autumn. Every bulb will give you half a dozen cloves or more from which to start next year's crop.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,890 ✭✭✭CelticRambler


    My veg plans are being re-written in the light of new weather predictions - another heat-wave, and probable drought - forecast for my part of France. :( We're not even into June and my 1000l reserve of rainwater is gone with no immediate prospect of the butts being re-filled. Temperatures of around 27°C every day this week, so my lettuce is growing too fast and tastes bitter, a few of the onions grown from sets have bolted already, whereas those grown from seed are still miserable weedy things :mad: and the peas are flowering and running to seed before almost as soon as they've germinated! :eek:

    The tomatoes seem happy though - planted out 36 of a standard-sized variety this week, to join 20 cherries. Carrots and green beans are doing ok too, as are the assortment of melons, squashes and other cucurbits.

    And the sun has sent the slugs off to greener, damper pastures, leaving my strawberries in peace! Ten pots of jam made this week. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,647 ✭✭✭beggars_bush


    Onions leaves are all turning yellow.
    Oh dear.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,370 ✭✭✭pconn062


    Onions leaves are all turning yellow.
    Oh dear.

    My onions are a complete disaster. 90% have bolted before making any size. Must be the funny weather, a very wet winter then near drought like conditions where I am for the last two months. Planted them last October but not going to bother overwintering again, they got too beaten up over the winter. Luckily I have some spring sown sets that look much happier and healthier.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭ednwireland


    just filling these with compost

    planning to do salad leaves and will get kales and broccoli in there for the winter

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,131 ✭✭✭Living Off The Splash


    Using a lot of water trying to keep everything alive at the moment. We need a good fall of rain.

    Eating our salad leaves, beetroot leaves at the moment. Peas, runner beans, grown from seed all in flower now. French Beans still stubbornly small. Good growth of swede, turnip and spinach, chard.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    I'm no longer sowing as there's no point really, just keep what I have wet for the time being.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,890 ✭✭✭CelticRambler


    My veg plans are being re-written in the light of new weather predictions - another heat-wave, and probable drought - forecast for my part of France. :( We're not even into June and my 1000l reserve of rainwater is gone with no immediate prospect of the butts being re-filled.

    Be careful what you wish for, they say ... Waterbutts replenished to overflowing this afternoon in 15 minutes flat! :eek:

    Unfortunately, a torrential rainstorm was preceded by a shower of hailstones as big as marbles. Not sure my tomatoes, peppers or chilis will have appreciated those. :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,370 ✭✭✭pconn062


    We could really do with some rain here. Grass and verges are starting to go brown like in 2018. I have bit too big of an area outside to be watering it all so prioritising the polytunnel and things that are nearly ready like peas and broad beans for now. Not much rain forecast for the next ten days either.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,647 ✭✭✭beggars_bush


    Weather getting colder from Wednesday on
    Hopefully some rain too


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,980 ✭✭✭s1ippy


    Seve OB wrote: »
    Lastly is a little patch which came free a few weeks back when we shifted the kids playhouse. I happened to be in B&Q last week and in the queue for the till they were selling off onions, garlic and spuds for a euro each so I picked up a selection. Wrong time of year I know to be growing them, but sure worst thing that can happen is that they don’t grow. Mind you, perhaps you can see that they are indeed starting to grow already.

    I didn’t use them all, does anyone know if they keep or do they die off if not used?
    They should keep for the year if stored in a dark airtight container. Those ones you planted will probably be ready next year, they generally take that long to develop.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,131 ✭✭✭Living Off The Splash


    Be careful what you wish for, they say ... Waterbutts replenished to overflowing this afternoon in 15 minutes flat! :eek:

    Unfortunately, a torrential rainstorm was preceded by a shower of hailstones as big as marbles. Not sure my tomatoes, peppers or chilis will have appreciated those. :(

    What part of France do you live in?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,890 ✭✭✭CelticRambler


    What part of France do you live in?

    Right in the middle, 650km from each corner! :)

    These were my hailstones yesterday:

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    My potatoes seemed to have suffered worse than anything else, but no serious damage done. In fact, the cucurbits of every kind appeared to have all doubled in size overnight!

    And the ground - previously turning to concrete - was wonderfully workable this morning, making today's weeding very easy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,736 ✭✭✭✭kylith


    The mini greenhouse which I had put aside to tape back into some usefulness just sailed across the garden and landed on the onions. Ye joints have been smashed just hoping that the tomatoes survive the wind now.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    My onions are starting to bolt. Chopping off the tips before they seed. The bed was way too dry! Now watering enthusiastically.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,647 ✭✭✭beggars_bush


    Broccoli turning yellow with black spots on leaves, then leaves dying


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,207 ✭✭✭a148pro


    I've suffered about a 1 in 9 germination rate for courgettes and squash this year, anyone any tips as to why? I do put the seeds on their edge (like a knife cutting through something) as that helped in years previous, but still very poor. Seeds are some from last year and some bought this season and from two different sources. Room they're germinating (or not germinating in) is pretty constant 22 degrees.

    Anyone any ideas what's going wrong, its really annoying as would have been a good year to get them out early.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,207 ✭✭✭a148pro


    Another day in the garden and another bed done.
    Gigantes beans, Swede, turnip, okra, dwarf beans and salad leaves.

    Is this in Ireland and outdoors? Is okra viable, I'd love to grow it? And gigantes


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,647 ✭✭✭beggars_bush


    Grass frost promised for tonight.
    Ridiculous


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,980 ✭✭✭s1ippy


    *legs it outside to apply a fleece to the courgettes*


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,927 ✭✭✭SouthWesterly


    Spread a, load of wood chips on my, remaining beds yesterday. Any moisture will now be preserved in the soil.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    My onions are starting to bolt. Chopping off the tips before they seed. The bed was way too dry! Now watering enthusiastically.

    Disaster averted :) But a close thing.

    The weather right now is the worst of everything - dull, at times chilly wind, but still dry. Having to try to keep the tomato seedlings warm but outside to avoid becoming leggy so the pots are in a washing up bowl which has a broken pane of glass over it.

    Sowed another batch of spicy greens, the last failed to germinate bar one which I abandoned as a lost cause. Going to have to pay daily attention to them in these conditions (the irony is that a bunch of spilt seeds from the previous go did germinate successfully in the cracks of the patio area)


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Using a lot of water trying to keep everything alive at the moment. We need a good fall of rain.

    Eating our salad leaves, beetroot leaves at the moment. Peas, runner beans, grown from seed all in flower now. French Beans still stubbornly small. Good growth of swede, turnip and spinach, chard.

    Are beetroot leaves nice, do you eat them raw or cooked? how many do you remove at a go and how many leaves do you leave? I am following Charles Dowding a lot and trying to follow his way


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,131 ✭✭✭Living Off The Splash


    I just mix my beetroot leaves in among my other salad leaves. I also mix in young spinach leaves. It bulks out the salad leaves.....to be honest it is probably the type of dressing that you put on salad leaves that make them tasty.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,890 ✭✭✭CelticRambler


    Are beetroot leaves nice, do you eat them raw or cooked? how many do you remove at a go and how many leaves do you leave?

    Yes, they're nice, especially when picked young, and can be eaten raw like lettuce or cooked like spinach. Adds a great bit of colour to a bowl of regular green salad leaves.

    I don't know if there's a specific recommendation for how many leaves to leave, but you wouldn't want to go mad, at least not too early in the season. You need to be a bit careful when pulling them too - it's easy to yank out the young beets if you're a bit rough. Fortunately, they tolerate transplanting/replanting really well, so it's just a nuisance, not catastrophic.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I just mix my beetroot leaves in among my other salad leaves. I also mix in young spinach leaves. It bulks out the salad leaves.....to be honest it is probably the type of dressing that you put on salad leaves that make them tasty.

    Thanks, must try that this evening.

    Is it good to thin out the beetroots?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,890 ✭✭✭CelticRambler


    Is it good to thin out the beetroots?

    Yes - not just good, but essential. You can thin to a spacing of 5cm initially, then harvest 1-in-2 of those as baby beets in a few week's time.

    Seeing as I love (pickled) beetroot, I re-plant the thinnings in a separate bed to triple/quadruple my crop. They can be left in the ground for harvest as required until the following spring, and as I discovered this year, if you're not too quick to lift them then flowering beetroot has a wonderful perfume.


  • Posts: 7,499 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Harvesting a few of the winter set onions I planted in October!
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    Tomatoes and cucumbers flying in the greenhouse too.

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    Have more tamatos outside with a few other rows.
    Few more weeks till the garlic is ready too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,647 ✭✭✭beggars_bush


    Harvesting a few of the winter set onions I planted in October!
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    Tomatoes and cucumbers flying in the greenhouse too.

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    Have more tamatos outside with a few other rows.
    Few more weeks till the garlic is ready too.

    how did you grow the garlic?
    I'm jealous of anyone with a decent greenhouse


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,456 ✭✭✭scarepanda


    @brownfinger, is this your fist year with the finished greenhouse? How's it going? Would you do anything differently? I remember following a thread a while ago where you gave details about it and I was very jealous :)


  • Posts: 7,499 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    scarepanda wrote: »
    @brownfinger, is this your fist year with the finished greenhouse? How's it going? Would you do anything differently? I remember following a thread a while ago where you gave details about it and I was very jealous :)

    Yea first year.
    I wish we had of gotten a bigger one :D, Its 2.5m x 4.5m.
    Its still not kitted out with beds on the right etc
    Going to let it evolve a bit instead of jumping in.
    You can see the grape on the back wall there coming from outside.
    Might live to regret growing that in there but time will tell!

    Dont think I would have done it differently.It has power but no running water yet.

    As for the Garlic,I just broke up a load of cloves from aldi and lashed them in a bed late last year.Just cut the flower heads off them on saturday (thanks Monty!)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,456 ✭✭✭scarepanda


    Ah! I was wondering what that was!

    Yikes! What size do you wish you'd gone for? I've saved the link to the greenhouse you gave in the other thread! We bought a house a few months ago, and while it does have a greenhouse, its small, I think 7ftx7ft, I want a bigger one. I really like the dwarf wall style, so I'm very envious of yours! I'll be going at the veg garden in the autumn and I'm planning on leaving room for a new greenhouse up beside the existing one.

    We've sown garlic from Aldi/Lidl and a garden centre at the same time a couple of years ago and the grocery store cloves did way better than the garden centre garlic.


  • Posts: 7,499 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    A meter or wider would have been nice but couldn't find a dwarf wall with a black frame within budget,talking 1000s more.
    Black frame was essenal.
    Its a room to be enjoyed rather than a pure production greenhouse so we have a little table and 2 seats taking up valuable floor space.
    I'll take a few more pics later.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,456 ✭✭✭scarepanda


    Interesting! I'd be going for either black or silver. I love the look of the black frame, but the existing one is the standard silver/galvanise frame and I'll be keeping that one. But it's a couple of years down the road before I'll be in a position to build it so plenty of time to figure out what I need/want. I'll be concentrating on the actual veg garden first, I'm not completely stuck regarding a greenhouse because I have the small one.
    I'd love to see photos!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,802 ✭✭✭MacDanger


    Sprayed the potatoes for blight today, would rather not have but didn't want to chance it. Once I harvest the earlies, is there anything that's suitable for planting for the rest of the summer / autumn?

    Thinned out the carrots also - should this have been done sooner?

    Planted a few leeks and celery too


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,370 ✭✭✭pconn062


    MacDanger wrote: »
    Sprayed the potatoes for blight today, would rather not have but didn't want to chance it. Once I harvest the earlies, is there anything that's suitable for planting for the rest of the summer / autumn?

    Thinned out the carrots also - should this have been done sooner?

    Planted a few leeks and celery too

    You could still plant swedes, calabrese, winter cabbage, beetroot, lettuce, spring onions or purple sprouting broccoli for next spring.

    It's fine thinning carrots now, just might delay the harvest by a few weeks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 731 ✭✭✭Hesh's Umpire


    I threw a few parsnip seeds in the ground today. Am I too late?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,927 ✭✭✭SouthWesterly


    I threw a few parsnip seeds in the ground today. Am I too late?

    Never too late


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,647 ✭✭✭beggars_bush


    Anyone grow pak choi?
    I've seedlings ready to go into garden but every website I read says they need partial shade.
    Any thoughts.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 27 jack_frost_09


    Anyone grow pak choi?
    I've seedlings ready to go into garden but every website I read says they need partial shade.
    Any thoughts.

    Yeah growing great in a small container outpacing some spinach nearby. Without any great thought beforehand, mine is growing in an area that gets morning sun and afternoon shade


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭ednwireland


    went all lazy on the planting (went down the garden centre and they had a load of veg plants !
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    so theres broad breans, dwarf beans, cabbage, cauliflower, lettuce and from seed, kohl rabi, radishes, swiss chard and ill be getting some kale and sprouting broccoli in

    and ive a 3x3 bed to make as well, thats the bits lying there !


  • Posts: 7,499 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Good harvest of garlic and onions.
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    Still a good few onions in the ground and gave a good few away.should have planted more.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    First potato plant dug today, 700 grammes. I'll leave the rest until they've flowered and hopefully a kilo a plant from then on.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,131 ✭✭✭Living Off The Splash


    Picked our first batch of blackcurrants this week. Getting very tempted to pick our Gooseberries but I know they are not ready yet. Mange Touts, I expect to pick these in the next day or so.


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