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Carrantuohill easiest/safest route

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  • #152
    K09
    Registered Users Posts: 649 ✭✭✭K09


    Hi,

    I am thinking of trying a different route this weekend. I'm looking at O'Shea's Gully route.

    What is this route like? Is it quite exposed to drops? Looking at the photos on the Mountain Rescue site it looks very steep after Cummeenoughter lake. And is the scree very loose?

    Thanks!


  • #153
    UDP
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,188 ✭✭✭UDP


    K09 wrote: »
    Hi,

    I am thinking of trying a different route this weekend. I'm looking at O'Shea's Gully route.

    What is this route like? Is it quite exposed to drops? Looking at the photos on the Mountain Rescue site it looks very steep after Cummeenoughter lake. And is the scree very loose?

    Thanks!
    Its fine to ascend. A few slightly steep parts but nothing major. Worse descending though as the scree is a bit loose but there is a lot of it which is probably a good thing. Still, stay very close.


  • #154
    RamblingRuairi
    Registered Users Posts: 54 ✭✭RamblingRuairi


    K09 wrote: »
    Hi,

    I am thinking of trying a different route this weekend. I'm looking at O'Shea's Gully route.

    What is this route like? Is it quite exposed to drops? Looking at the photos on the Mountain Rescue site it looks very steep after Cummeenoughter lake. And is the scree very loose?

    Thanks!

    Did this route last weekend and it's perfectly ok. Took a group of beginners up and they managed it no problem. It is steepish after the lake but just take your time. If you've hiked/climbed before, you'll be fine.

    What's your descent route? If you're looking for a safe descent back in to the Hag's Glen, I'd recommend the ZigZags


  • #155
    K09
    Registered Users Posts: 649 ✭✭✭K09


    RamblingRuairi wrote: »
    Did this route last weekend and it's perfectly ok. Took a group of beginners up and they managed it no problem. It is steepish after the lake but just take your time. If you've hiked/climbed before, you'll be fine.

    What's your descent route? If you're looking for a safe descent back in to the Hag's Glen, I'd recommend the ZigZags

    Hi,

    Thanks for that. Yup planning descending the Zig Zag route. Is the Gully route well marked?


  • #156
    RamblingRuairi
    Registered Users Posts: 54 ✭✭RamblingRuairi


    K09 wrote: »
    Hi,

    Thanks for that. Yup planning descending the Zig Zag route. Is the Gully route well marked?

    Yep, pretty well marked alright. Just need to make sure you start the Gully ascent from the lake as if you continue straight up from the Steps, you could end up starting the Central Gully :)

    Shea's Gully is much wider than any other gully up there and is really unmistakable so just make sure you hit the lake before starting any gully


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  • #157
    Mac2010
    Registered Users Posts: 101 ✭✭Mac2010


    Hi guys, does anyone have picture, route, starting point of Zig-Zags? is it longer than Devil's ladder? how difficult is it?

    PS: used Devil's Ladder few years back and almost got killed by stones above my head :D

    don't really want to use Devil's ladder as mostly groups use it . unless you are the first person to climb early in the morning :D

    Thanks in Advance :)


  • #158
    duckysauce
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    Mac2010 wrote: »
    Hi guys, does anyone have picture, route, starting point of Zig-Zags? is it longer than Devil's ladder? how difficult is it?

    PS: used Devil's Ladder few years back and almost got killed by stones above my head :D

    don't really want to use Devil's ladder as mostly groups use it . unless you are the first person to climb early in the morning :D

    Thanks in Advance :)

    its around 40 mins longer than the ladder not difficult , have a gpx of route if thats any use .


  • #159
    Mac2010
    Registered Users Posts: 101 ✭✭Mac2010


    thank you very much DuckySauce!:)

    could you PM me or share here the file? it would be great:cool:

    This lovely weather making me itchy :D

    Thanks in advance


  • #160
    [Deleted User]
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    Mac2010 wrote: »
    This lovely weather making me itchy :D

    And you haven't even walked through the flying ants and midges yet!

    Bring repellent.


  • #161
    duckysauce
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,930 ✭✭✭duckysauce


    Mac2010 wrote: »
    thank you very much DuckySauce!:)

    could you PM me or share here the file? it would be great:cool:

    This lovely weather making me itchy :D

    Thanks in advance

    here you go :cool:


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  • #162
    Mac2010
    Registered Users Posts: 101 ✭✭Mac2010


    Thanks Ducky sauce. strangely im getting 503 service unavailable error when i try to download the attachment...something wrong with boards.ie or is it my end?


  • #163
    duckysauce
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,930 ✭✭✭duckysauce


    Mac2010 wrote: »
    Thanks Ducky sauce. strangely im getting 503 service unavailable error when i try to download the attachment...something wrong with boards.ie or is it my end?

    it's not working for some reason

    you can get it here just select export data to gpx.

    http://mountainviews.ie/track/1517/


  • #164
    mickman
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    Hello everyone

    Doing the o sheas gully route on saturday and zig zag back down.

    Once at the top, is it easy to find the zig zag route back down ???


  • #165
    UDP
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    mickman wrote: »
    Hello everyone

    Doing the o sheas gully route on saturday and zig zag back down.

    Once at the top, is it easy to find the zig zag route back down ???

    Head down from the summit back towards the top of the devils ladder but instead of turning left down to the devils ladder go straight on. I don't know after that though.


  • #166
    mickman
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    UDP wrote: »
    Head down from the summit back towards the top of the devils ladder but instead of turning left down to the devils ladder go straight on. I don't know after that though.


    thanks and one last question. starting in cronins yard , is the gully route well marked so that i dont accidentally end up on the devils ladder ?


  • #167
    UDP
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    mickman wrote: »
    thanks and one last question. starting in cronins yard , is the gully route well marked so that i dont accidentally end up on the devils ladder ?
    You need to turn off to the right from the main path before you get to lake.
    See google maps here where the path splits around lough gouragh. You obviously want to be on the top side of that lake looking at the map - so turning right off the main path coming from cronins yard.
    http://goo.gl/maps/vwuEM


  • #168
    hmmm
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    mickman wrote: »
    Once at the top, is it easy to find the zig zag route back down ???
    It is but you have to pay attention to what you're doing. When you descend from the top of Carrauntoohill, you'll pass the descent for the Devils ladder on your left. The ground will now climb for a few hundred metres - once the ground stops climbing you'll be on a wide grassy platea - keep to the left (not too far to the left!) and you'll come to a small cairn, with a clearly visible path leading down to the left.

    You can see a lot of the route in this nice video (except we came down the Bone.) The Zigzag path isn't visible on this, but it's at about 2.35 in the video.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwbXZPWrdo8


  • #169
    RamblingRuairi
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    This will give you the route up but as the others have said the Zig Zags descend is past the Devil's Ladder:

    http://www.kerrymountainrescue.ie/routes/brother_osheas.html


  • #170
    BriangC
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    here is a map of the route going up o'Sheas Gully and down Zig Zigs http://www.activeme.ie/guides/walks/carrauntoohil-via-osheas-gully-and-zig-zags-kerry/ you can download the gpx file too.

    here is a nice alternative and one of my favourites http://www.activeme.ie/guides/walks/reeks-loop-the-bone-and-heavenly-gates-kerry/


  • #171
    mickman
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    changed my mind now cos my gf is a bit scared so going to take the zig zags up and down.

    Do i just follow the sign for bothar na gige on way up ?


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  • #172
    K09
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    Hi,

    Any snow on carrauntoohil yet?

    Thanks


  • #173
    [Deleted User]
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    K09 wrote: »
    Hi,

    Any snow on carrauntoohil yet?

    Thanks

    Light covering yesterday. Can't see it for storm clouds today.


  • #174
    [Deleted User]
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    Storm clouds have rolled back slightly...and thick snow on the mountains.

    Keep an eye on Cronins Yard facebook page for updates, but they say its right down to the bottom of Chruach Mhor now.


  • #175
    jusmeig
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    hmmm wrote: »
    It is but you have to pay attention to what you're doing. When you descend from the top of Carrauntoohill, you'll pass the descent for the Devils ladder on your left. The ground will now climb for a few hundred metres - once the ground stops climbing you'll be on a wide grassy platea - keep to the left (not too far to the left!) and you'll come to a small cairn, with a clearly visible path leading down to the left.

    You can see a lot of the route in this nice video (except we came down the Bone.) The Zigzag path isn't visible on this, but it's at about 2.35 in the video.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwbXZPWrdo8

    The gully in this video is central gully, not O Shea's if I am not mistaken! O Shea's is to the right of this.


  • #176
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    jusmeig wrote: »
    The gully in this video is central gully, not O Shea's if I am not mistaken! O Shea's is to the right of this.

    Pretty sure it's O'Sheas..though unusually they seem to ascend via the entrance to the Curved Gully, then gone across the scree slope and presumably the foot of Central and emerged at the top of O'Sheas.


  • #177
    hmmm
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    Pretty sure it's O'Sheas..though unusually they seem to ascend via the entrance to the Curved Gully, then gone across the scree slope and presumably the foot of Central and emerged at the top of O'Sheas.
    Yup, exactly. It was a nice route.


  • #178
    [Deleted User]
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    On thinking about it, guess there is nothing unusual in what you did at all really. In fact going in and out of the start of the Curved Gully might add a nice if short scramble. It's just that most walkers are drawn to the route via Cummeenoughter.


  • #179
    jusmeig
    Registered Users Posts: 1,262 ✭✭✭jusmeig


    hmmm wrote: »
    Yup, exactly. It was a nice route.
    A so you passed the entrance to central and continued on to O Sheas.
    Must give curved a go...its certainly an interesting route when looking down from the top!!


  • #180
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    jusmeig wrote: »
    A so you passed the entrance to central and continued on to O Sheas.
    Must give curved a go...its certainly an interesting route when looking down from the top!!

    Full of snow and ice right now, no getting up without winter climbing gear.


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  • #181
    jusmeig
    Registered Users Posts: 1,262 ✭✭✭jusmeig


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Full of snow and ice right now, no getting up without winter climbing gear.

    Do you know what condition Central and O Sheas are in?
    I've been looking for an excuse to dust off the ice axe and crampons.


  • #182
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    jusmeig wrote: »
    Do you know what condition Central and O Sheas are in?
    I've been looking for an excuse to dust off the ice axe and crampons.

    Last weekend, you'd get to try them out a little in Central, not necessary for O'Shea's and a few did it just in boots...although if someone had crampons it would be no harm to put them on for safety, plus would be a lot faster.


  • #183
    jusmeig
    Registered Users Posts: 1,262 ✭✭✭jusmeig


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Last weekend, you'd get to try them out a little in Central, not necessary for O'Shea's and a few did it just in boots...although if someone had crampons it would be no harm to put them on for safety, plus would be a lot faster.

    Its a bit of a pain to be honest as we are heading from Dublin so its a whole weekend, and if the weather is bad its a long round-trip. I've been down 4 times now and only once was it clear :(


  • #184
    [Deleted User]
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    If you're down to use the ice axes and crampons, would head out anyway, clear or not. And you can figure out if there's snow by contacting Cronin's Yard and they would give you pretty regular updates, they need only look out their window. The one thing I would keep an eye out for much more than visibility is wind, if it's cloudy you miss the scenery but it's still fun, if it's windy it can just be a no go at all.


  • #185
    jusmeig
    Registered Users Posts: 1,262 ✭✭✭jusmeig


    Deleted User wrote: »
    If you're down to use the ice axes and crampons, would head out anyway, clear or not. And you can figure out if there's snow by contacting Cronin's Yard and they would give you pretty regular updates, they need only look out their window. The one thing I would keep an eye out for much more than visibility is wind, if it's cloudy you miss the scenery but it's still fun, if it's windy it can just be a no go at all.

    I never thought to call Cronin's yard, cheers!


  • #186
    comet
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    Any update on conditions on the mountain?


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  • #187
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    comet wrote: »
    Any update on conditions on the mountain?

    It seemed to melt off the Eastern Reeks during the week but it tends to linger in the gullies that bit longer, plus forecast tonight is cold...

    http://www.mountain-forecast.com/peaks/Carrauntoohil/forecasts/1038

    Again, would ring Cronins Yard.


  • #188
    Halloween Jack
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    I'm heading down in march with a couple of lads to do the horseshoe. They've done it before but I've never been on any kind of ridge walk before. Can anybody tell me how exposed it gets up there?

    I'm not too good with heights but I want to push myself a bit.


  • #189
    [Deleted User]
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    Halloween Jack wrote: »
    I'm heading down in march with a couple of lads to do the horseshoe. They've done it before but I've never been on any kind of ridge walk before. Can anybody tell me how exposed it gets up there?

    I'm not too good with heights but I want to push myself a bit.

    Coomloughra?

    Google image Beenkeragh Ridge. I mean, if you stick to the path as opposed to the proper ridge, and conditions are good - no snow or high wind - it's perfectly safe. But it is very high and while I would think it as not exposed at all, not sure I can prescribe how you should feel about it. It is more exposed than the Caher Ridge where there is only a drop off one side. Have seen people get nervous on it, so wouldn't be glib enough to say "oh tis grand, fire away".


  • #190
    shadowcomplex
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    What Route is this in the video?

    http://www.outdoorsireland.com/hillwalking.php#/userfiles/image/gallery/ClimbCarrauntoohil1.jpg


  • #191
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    shadowcomplex wrote: »
    What Route is this in the video?

    http://www.outdoorsireland.com/hillwalking.php#/userfiles/image/gallery/ClimbCarrauntoohil1.jpg

    The linked page has a number of climbs and walks. Outdoors Ireland is run by Nathan Kingerlee and he posts here, so drop him a line.

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/member.php?u=205212

    He has brought me up Howling Ridge and I did a winter climbing course with him, would highly recommend him.


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  • #192
    Halloween Jack
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    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Coomloughra?

    Google image Beenkeragh Ridge. I mean, if you stick to the path as opposed to the proper ridge, and conditions are good - no snow or high wind - it's perfectly safe. But it is very high and while I would think it as not exposed at all, not sure I can prescribe how you should feel about it. It is more exposed than the Caher Ridge where there is only a drop off one side. Have seen people get nervous on it, so wouldn't be glib enough to say "oh tis grand, fire away".

    Thanks for the info. I've looked at plenty of pics of the ridge, sometimes it looks like it's fine, other times a nightmare;)

    I suppose I won't know till I'm on it, also at least there is a path lower down if things get hairy;)


  • #193
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    Halloween Jack wrote: »
    Thanks for the info. I've looked at plenty of pics of the ridge, sometimes it looks like it's fine, other times a nightmare;)

    I suppose I won't know till I'm on it, also at least there is a path lower down if things get hairy;)

    It is impossible to advise the apprehensive climber as to whether things will be okay for him or her. And it's no good people saying "it's grand" or "don't worry" when someone gets a little weak at the knees. Everyone has a different threshold, and there's a lot to be said for a fear of heights, far more accidents are caused by and to the risk takers.

    The only thing I would say is warn your group that you don't know how you will feel till you are up there. I'm desperately impatient anyway, but it really annoys me when someone who said all along they would be fine suddenly announces that they can't go on, and someone else needs to take them down. I hope you do it and enjoy it.


  • #194
    Halloween Jack
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    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    It is impossible to advise the apprehensive climber as to whether things will be okay for him or her. And it's no good people saying "it's grand" or "don't worry" when someone gets a little weak at the knees. Everyone has a different threshold, and there's a lot to be said for a fear of heights, far more accidents are caused by and to the risk takers.

    The only thing I would say is warn your group that you don't know how you will feel till you are up there. I'm desperately impatient anyway, but it really annoys me when someone who said all along they would be fine suddenly announces that they can't go on, and someone else needs to take them down. I hope you do it and enjoy it.

    Cheers again, seems like sound advice. I've done a fair bit of walking at this stage, most of wicklow, Ben Nevis, about half the tour du Mont Blanc, but none of it has been too difficult underfoot or required hands etc, I'm hoping I can do this as it kind of represents the next stage for me.

    Thanks again for the advice.


  • #195
    theenergy
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    hi
    im really interested in joining a team to carrantuohill
    ive done the mourne mountains and croagh patrick a couple of times
    im based in dublin and would like suggestions on when to go and places to stay b&b wise
    thanks in advance


  • #196
    hmmm
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    Halloween Jack wrote: »
    I'm not too good with heights but I want to push myself a bit.
    It depends how much of the horseshoe they plan on doing. I'm not sure what level "good with heights" you are, but Benkeeragh should be possible and I would avoid the Big Gun if they plan on doing this.

    You have options to do most of the route with them.


  • #197
    Halloween Jack
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    hmmm wrote: »
    It depends how much of the horseshoe they plan on doing. I'm not sure what level "good with heights" you are, but Benkeeragh should be possible and I would avoid the Big Gun if they plan on doing this.

    You have options to do most of the route with them.


    Howdy, thanks for the reply, i think the intention is to go up skregmore to beenkeragh, across the ridge to carauntoohil and down via caher. The other guys in the group have done this route before.

    What would make me apprehensive is being unable to ascertain how narrow the ridge gets on the way across, although one of the guys showed me a video of their last outing there and it seems like the ridge is wide enough to keep a reasonable distance from the sheer drops into the horseshoe. Would i be correct in thinking this?

    Im not too sure what the big gun is?

    - Just googled the big gun, definitely a step too far at this stage:)-


  • #198
    Pat Mustard
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    theenergy wrote: »
    hi
    im really interested in joining a team to carrantuohill
    ive done the mourne mountains and croagh patrick a couple of times
    im based in dublin and would like suggestions on when to go and places to stay b&b wise
    thanks in advance

    You are unlikely to have a problem with accommodation in Killarney. The place is full of B&Bs and hotels.

    I'm not sure if you are asking about guided walks up Corrán Tuathail. There are several companies that operate in the area, which operate guided walks and other activities. I'm not 100% certain, but they might even organise accommodation for you as well.


  • #199
    hmmm
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    Halloween Jack wrote: »
    What would make me apprehensive is being unable to ascertain how narrow the ridge gets on the way across
    One thing you could suggest is they do the route in reverse - i.e. Caher first. At least that way you could do most of the circuit, have a look and decide - turning around and coming back via Caher if needs be.


  • #200
    Supernintento Chalmers
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    Anyone have a link to a GPS track of a decent route for running to the summit and back?


  • #201
    unkel
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    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    I think runners would usually go up the hydro-track and summit Carrantuohill via Caher

    Carauntoohil_route.gif

    Can you do it in less than 90 minutes up and down? :D

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