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Irish Rail 100% fare increase on GCD -> Newbridge services!?

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  • 14-12-2018 10:18am
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    LuckyLloyd
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    I have been a frequent user of the PPT service from GCD to Newbridge since it’s inception a couple of years ago. I don’t use it every day and would purchase a ticket in the train station - usually a single - when I did.

    During the last two years the fares between ParkWest and the City Centre were stable at €2.30 for a single and €3.95 a return. Imagine my surprise this morning to see the fares set at €4.40 a single and €8.80 a return. Wtf?! How is that justified?!

    Was this announced somewhere? There were certainly no signs at Pearse / Parkwest heralding this massive increase. Any insight appreciated!


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    L1011
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    There aren't 4.40/8.80 return fares in the fare determination as far as I can see - was this cash or leap? Or did you forgot to tag out / not see the credit return?

    The old fares don't match any on the tables either as it happens


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    LuckyLloyd
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    L1011 wrote: »
    There aren't 4.40/8.80 return fares in the fare determination as far as I can see - was this cash or leap? Or did you forgot to tag out / not see the credit return?

    The old fares don't match any on the tables either as it happens

    Cash, at the ticket machines. Pearse to Parkwest.

    Could previously be purchased for €2.30 single / €3.95 return


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    L1011
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    There was a 17% increase in zone 2 fares and some re-zoning but I can't find either the old or new fares on the tables, which must not be complete.

    Would you not use a Leap card? It'll pay for itself within a few trips


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    goingnowhere
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    Heuston Parkwest & Cherry Orchard OD pair was moved to zone 2

    Zone 2 is 2.70
    Extra for tunnel, 1.70
    4.40 single


    Return
    Zone 2 is 4.80
    Extra for tunnel, 3.40
    8.20 return


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    LuckyLloyd
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    goingnowhere wrote: »
    Heuston Parkwest & Cherry Orchard OD pair was moved to zone 2

    Zone 2 is 2.70
    Extra for tunnel, 1.70
    4.40 single


    Return
    Zone 2 is 4.80
    Extra for tunnel, 3.40
    8.20 return

    Where was this announced? Leaving aside the technical element of 'rezoning' it's a bloody 100% increase on the exact same trip in one go!
    L1011 wrote: »
    There was a 17% increase in zone 2 fares and some re-zoning but I can't find either the old or new fares on the tables, which must not be complete.

    Would you not use a Leap card? It'll pay for itself within a few trips

    I have an annual bus and luas ticket loaded to my leap card, so I was happy to pay cash for the couple of times I used the service a week. This new price is uneconomical relative to my other options, but that's a purely personal perspective.


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    L1011
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    You can still use epurse on a taxsaver ticket for other modes.

    The fare determination was a few weeks ago and was publicised. Fares within the short hop zone are being merged towards a flat multi mode fare over a few years so there were some significant increases and decreases


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    Dravokivich
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    It's odd alright, can't seem to lookup the journey on their website to get the fare. Have you been into them about it to clarify?


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    ArmaniJeanss
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    goingnowhere wrote: »
    Heuston Parkwest & Cherry Orchard OD pair was moved to zone 2

    Zone 2 is 2.70
    Extra for tunnel, 1.70
    4.40 single


    Return
    Zone 2 is 4.80
    Extra for tunnel, 3.40
    8.20 return

    I can't be of help to the OP, but the underlined bit seems a bit mad.
    From memory this was a really cheap re-opening, something around €10M was quoted for re-signalling and clearing the banks. It was a no-brainer as it opened up a key new artery.
    I don't really see why commuters should have to pay what amounts to a 'toll' for using it. It's not like it's the Dublin Port tunnel or the M50, the bloody thing was already built 130 years ago and is a few hundred metres long.

    No reason why Pearse to Park West shouldn't be the same price as equivalent journeys on other Dublin commuter lines - I'm guessing Pearse to Clonsilla, Dun Laoighre or Howth would be rough equivalents.


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    Jamie2k9
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    goingnowhere wrote: »
    Heuston Parkwest & Cherry Orchard OD pair was moved to zone 2

    Zone 2 is 2.70
    Extra for tunnel, 1.70
    4.40 single


    Return
    Zone 2 is 4.80
    Extra for tunnel, 3.40
    8.20 return

    Those from NTA?

    I think it should be about 6.50 return.


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    loyatemu
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    railusers.ie seem to think it's 3.30 single, 6.25 return:

    http://www.railusers.ie/passenger_info/fare_calc_2019.php?station_from=PERSE&station_to=CHORC&stage1=Submit

    pretty poor that Irish Rail's fare calculator can't show the fare, the note on the page still says that you have to get the Luas to get from the Kildare line to Connolly.


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    LuckyLloyd
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    This is ridiculous


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