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25-04-2017, 15:12   #31
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Freedom to counter demonstrate.
& would you being demonstrating peacefully?
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25-04-2017, 15:18   #32
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Perhaps not, but then again I'm somewhat hard pressed to think of an occasion when the KKK rallied in force. If I recall correctly last year they managed a convoy of a whole ten vehicles which drove nearby somewhere they had intended to protest.

So this is the problem, groups like the KKK are long gone and almost all we have left is gangs of bruisers looking for fights against 'someone' they can paint as fascist.
Richard Spencer and Nathan Damigo's groups are every bit as extreme and dangerous as the KKK. Just because they have aren't covered in tattoos or white robes.
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It's a bit more than "merely expressing views". This guy has an SS tatoo. Like he saw the holocaust and thought those guys were cool and went so far as to get an SS tatoo.Mein Kampf was mearly expressing a view, so were Hitlers early speeches. Didn't work out wel..
Yes he had a horrible tattoo, can you not see the difference between someone expressing terrible views and actual violence? I think your views are terrible, you are expressing them, would you find it acceptable if I physically assaulted you because of your terrible views?
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Other than defending themselves the Antifa girl getting hit was the only questionable incident. If you find something else then please let me know
In that same incident there were six or seven people beating one young man on the ground. One of the attackers looked like Jimmy saville. Highly questionable even if it was not the return of Jimmy
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In that same incident there were six or seven people beating one young man on the ground. One of the attackers looked like Jimmy saville. Highly questionable even if it was not the return of Jimmy
Not to forget the guy in the Jesus jacket stomping on people. If only he stopped long enough for his victims to have a discussion.
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Richard Spencer and Nathan Damigo's groups are every bit as extreme and dangerous as the KKK. Just because they have aren't covered in tattoos or white robes.
Are you sure about that? I mean I only heard about the latter when you mentioned him and I see he has a princely 13 thousand twitter followers - not exactly the makings of a dangerous man. As for Richard Spencer, apart from a few speaking engagements what exactly has he achieved?

This broader trend of looking for smaller and smaller figures seems to reflect the problem of bigot supply and demand that Douglas Murray has identified; basically in the absence of any real campaigns or threats, people feel the need to become more and more hysterical about more and more insignificant figures. This is just an example of that.
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In that same incident there were six or seven people beating one young man on the ground. One of the attackers looked like Jimmy saville. Highly questionable even if it was not the return of Jimmy
Yes & they were punching him then someone said enough & they helped him up, where when its Antifa they would be stamping & using sticks to hurt as much as possible. It wasnt Saville it was Flash Gordon
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Not to forget the guy in the Jesus jacket stomping on people. If only he stopped long enough for his victims to have a discussion.
Violence breeds violence. I asked for examples other than people defending themselves. I'm sure that commie stamped on a few people during the day
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Violence breeds violence. I asked for examples other than people defending themselves. I'm sure that commie stamped on a few people during the day
The charging and stamping on people defense method!
Why were they there if they just left the area they would have been totally safe.
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The charging and stamping on people defense method!
Why were they there if they just left the area they would have been totally safe.
they were having a free speech demonstration, no property damage, no violence, then antifa showed up and crossed the line the police set up, threw fireworks indiscriminately into a peaceful crowd, and the violence started. No antifa presence, no violence, why were antifa in the area? Now contrast this to an antifa ''demonstration'' on their own and what do you get? 100k worth of damage done to a school.
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Who decides who are the fascists, and who are "only" rightwing? Doesn't seem very transparent.
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Who decides who are the fascists, and who are "only" rightwing? Doesn't seem very transparent.
20cent seems to be on the committee.
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Who decides who are the fascists, and who are "only" rightwing? Doesn't seem very transparent.
To Antifa, anyone somewhat to the right is fascist, while to the fascist anyone who does subscribe their bile is race traitor, cuck, libtard or whatever bollocks terms they use.

Both groups may talk about free speech, but when presented with a different opinion, they run away to their safe spaces.

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To Antifa, anyone somewhat to the right is fascist, while to the fascist anyone who does subscribe their bile is race traitor, cuck or whatever bollocks terms they use.

Both groups may talk about free speech, but when presented with a different opinion, they run away to their safe spaces.
From what I've seen its far more extreme than this, Ive seen every position on the political spectrum that isn't far left socialism decried as fascist by these mentalists. And for what its worth the far right is just as bad
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The charging and stamping on people defense method!
Why were they there if they just left the area they would have been totally safe.
No they wouldnt because Antifa would have followed them back down the street. If you dont like violence then dont start it
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