The Tipperary GAA (Club and Intercounty) Thread

Pogue eile wrote: »

JeffKenna wrote: »

Fair play to Tipp after a fantastic performance Sunday. Hard to see anyone beating them this year.

I certainly wouldn't go that far, but to dismiss them as contenders is equally bizarre.

Should have beaten Galway 2 years ago in the semi, where they would have gone on and won the final after. One bad year doesn't make a bad team. They'll have 10 - 15 points on Waterford Sunday anyway.

Pogue eile wrote: »

Can I ask you both that if Tipp aren't one of the top contenders who to jaysus are?

"Tipp were without a win in the Munster Senior Hurling Championship since the 2016 final and they’d won just two of their last nine games in all competitions. Their summer last year was over on 10 June."

Tipp and all the teams are contenders (!) but lets not get carried away with one win against Cork - one game at a time

Mantis Toboggan wrote: »

Certainly in the league just when you thought they were up and running they turned in a listless performance so having answered alot of questions last week that's the next one up - put two good performances back to back.

I'd imagine Sheedy will start with a very similar team to Sunday, Dan for O'Meara if he doesn't make it. Forde didn't have his best day but I'd expect for him to be retained. Waterford will try to flood the middle so it'll be interesting to see how we react to that. They generally play their best stuff in Thurles so this will be a big test.

Apart from Limerick I think most teams had a similar league, one or two good performances and a couple of very low energy/ poor games.

I think the round robin has had a very detrimental effect on the effort levels for the league.

Dan back for Niall O Meara is the logical move, Dan and Bonnar will clog up a lot around the Waterford half backs/ midfield where they try and outnumber opponents. Looking at the Waterford gme on the telly during the week, some of the Waterford players were very quiet against Clare, Paudric Mahony, the two Bennetts.

maximo31 wrote: »

I hear there will be 1 change ; Alan Flynn in at wing back and Ronan M back into the corner. O'Brien to drop out.

While Ronan in at corner back doesn't make any sense I'd imagine the thinking is that Waterford will only play 1 or 2 in the inside line so Ronan most likely will be the free man.

Joe_ Public wrote: »

Strange to see no Cian Darcy in the 26 after getting game time last week and Mark Kehoe gone too, unless its fitness issues in either or both cases. Two defenders in to replace them which is interesting.

Thought the same, not a huge amount of forward options on the bench.
Last weeks performance is a big step in the right direction. Much more aggressive and urgent, but mainly the use of the ball to not hit it in high on top of the forwards was massively encouraging.

Not the perfect performance though. Lots of frees conceded that were the only reason Cork were in it in the first half. We also took the foot off the gas towards the end and probably left about 2-05 behind us that we should have scored. Scoreline did flatter Cork a bit in the end imo.

Waterford won't be easy. They know if they lose that will in all likelihood be them finished for the year. If we perform like we can, then I see us winning. But we need to put 2 good performances back to back.

That was far from a complete performance but it’s great to beat anyone by double scores so I will take it happily !!!

OAOB wrote: »

One of the teams that has shown an ability to put back to back performances together. That would be Limerick, Galway, Clare and Kilkenny for me.
If Tipp can repeat that level of performance against Waterford and Clare then they can be considered a contender

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

I'd love to be proven wrong but I don't see us being anywhere close this year.

You can't trust them, they're great one day and terrible the next. No consistency.

Tough men to please!

And when exactly have Clare of Kilkenny last put back to back performances together?

The younger players looked very light, maybe that's what's holding them back. Barry Heffernan has good ability but again very light, good in the loose but was physically dominated. If he bulked up he could nail a starting position.

Delighted for Breen, possibly his best performance in the blue and gold. Has pace, work rate, ability, can take a score, has all the right attributes.

Clare in ennis will be a war zone. Another 50/50 game. Reasons to be optimistic going forward.

Pogue eile wrote: »

The most pleasing thing for me was the fact that the two players that were criticised from the first game were the two best players on the pitch and the majority of subs contributed very well.

Indeed very pleasing, particularly for Jason, but i honestly dont know where the criticism for Mick Breen would have been coming from after the Cork game. Simply performed a different role that day, a much more containing one, and did it very well. Stopped a raft of Cork runs coming through the middle. Yesterday, obviously freed up for a more attacking role, but still kept a tight rein on Jamie Barron i thought. A very complete midfield performance. Like others, I have been critical of him in the past, on a number of occasions it must be said, but his attributes are obvious for all to see and great if he can keep imposing himself on matches. Confidence wont be an issue if we can keep our momentum going anyway.

A few things after the first two games.
Tipp are hurling with great passion and commitment, every single plyer looks fitter sharper than last year.
Cathal Barret has been outstanding, James Barry composed, we've looked solid at the back. Cork must have thought our half back line would be the weak link, after playing Aidan Walsh for most of the league they throw him in against Limerick and fire long ball over the Limerick half back line and take possibly Limerick's strongest line out of the game.

You wonder against Tipp did they think Tipp's lack of pace at half back could be exploited?
Credit to Seamie, on a poor day by his standards his workrate was again outstanding, himself and Bonnar really shut down the Waterford half back line in th esecond half.
One small dissappointment yesterday was our half back line didn't drive forard like they did against Cork. We ended up hitting a lot of long direct ball end of the first half early second half. Last week we would have been driving forward more forcing our opponents onto the backfoot.
Two from two is a fantastic return, but two tough games await.
All credit to Michael Breen, I was critical of him in Cork, but yesterday he was outstanding. Breen, Ronan, John Mc. and Jason Forde are all players with an amazing talent. Finding playing tactics patterns etc to maximise them as the next leaders is massive for Tipperary Hurling.

farmerval wrote: »

A few things after the first two games.
Tipp are hurling with great passion and commitment, every single plyer looks fitter sharper than last year.
Cathal Barret has been outstanding, James Barry composed, we've looked solid at the back. Cork must have thought our half back line would be the weak link, after playing Aidan Walsh for most of the league they throw him in against Limerick and fire long ball over the Limerick half back line and take possibly Limerick's strongest line out of the game.

You wonder against Tipp did they think Tipp's lack of pace at half back could be exploited?
Credit to Seamie, on a poor day by his standards his workrate was again outstanding, himself and Bonnar really shut down the Waterford half back line in th esecond half.
One small dissappointment yesterday was our half back line didn't drive forard like they did against Cork. We ended up hitting a lot of long direct ball end of the first half early second half. Last week we would have been driving forward more forcing our opponents onto the backfoot.
Two from two is a fantastic return, but two tough games await.
All credit to Michael Breen, I was critical of him in Cork, but yesterday he was outstanding. Breen, Ronan, John Mc. and Jason Forde are all players with an amazing talent. Finding playing tactics patterns etc to maximise them as the next leaders is massive for Tipperary Hurling.

Good post. I've no doubt Cork did think they could run through our defence and exploit that much talked about lack of pace. Sure wasnt every second pundit in the country pretty much assuming the same thing? One thing i think people overlooked was that if you could take anything from the League, it was that the Tipp defence was gelling very well together and performing as a solid unit. The key was restoring faith in Barry, who should never have been scapegoated for last years league final debacle to begin with, getting Barrett back to somewhere approaching 2016 levels and having Brendan fit again. Flynn could be the final piece of that jigsaw. Whether its good enough for an all ireland i cant really say, but personally i believe its as good as whats out there.

BOSTIK wrote: »

Donagh Maher, Sean O'Brien & Seamus Kennedy & all left on the bench last Sunday. Wouldn't have thought that Barry Heffernan was ahead of Maher as a wing back. Not a bad complaint I suppose.

Willie Connors was good again when sprung, though seeing Robert Byrne playing as a forward was surprising. I don't think we'd get away with that again.

A point out of Ennis should see us through, a win there is certainly feasible as Clare's backs are nowhere near as mean as the '90s crowd.

I think Barry Heff would have more pure hurling in him than the others mentioned so was possibly the chosen option on sunday as waterford were a man down, but as to the overall pecking order, i'd find it hard to say. Donagh and SOB are solid enough without ever having bowled me over while i'm not sure Seamie has pushed on since 2016, but remains a great option to have on the bench. Barrys been a bit unlucky with injury and definitely has the ability, just that question of the intensity of championship games tending to pass him by a bit. He's obviously going well, though, which is good as we need these guys pushing those ahead of them again.

I think the last 10-15 minutes of last sundays game are worth nothing much, they'd given up and it had less intensity than a training match. Ennis is going to be savage, we need to cut out the few little lapses in concentration we've showed both weeks so far, will be a tighter game i'm certain, but still confident we have enough to get a result.

1373 wrote: »

i think seamie is a lot better than an option off the bench

Not really sure what you could possible base this on? Since 2016 he has been poor at best and if you are starting Kennedy who are you proposing to leave out?

digzy wrote: »

Maybe someone's confusing the two 'seamies' !

To be fair there is only one Seamie - Tipperary's all time record goal scorer in little over a week!

1373 wrote: »

lucky im not picking the team, would have seamie call at corner back and seamie kennedy taking frees at 14

How are you keeping Babs

Ompala wrote: »

Any word on Brendan Maher or Niall O'Meara? Tough trip to Ennis coming up, need both players fit

Think Maher was only feeling unwell so he should be ok anyway