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Disability Access Certificate for stepped entrance

  • 01-09-2019 7:40pm
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    I'm submitting a change of use application form retail to office which will involve raising the ground floor by 500mm so that the basement level can used as office space.

    I'm looking at Part M of the building Regs particularly sections

    1.1.3.5 stepped access routes
    1.2.3 accessible entrances

    Does anyone know what the general guidance is on stepped entrances at street level or if stepped entrances are specifically disallowed?


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  • #2
    Gumbo
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    brenbrady wrote: »
    I'm submitting a change of use application form retail to office which will involve raising the ground floor by 500mm so that the basement level can used as office space.

    I'm looking at Part M of the building Regs particularly sections

    1.1.3.5 stepped access routes
    1.2.3 accessible entrances

    Does anyone know what the general guidance is on stepped entrances at street level or if stepped entrances are specifically disallowed?

    If you are making the ground floor inaccessible just to create the basement, then it will be refused.

    Can you not look at a different layout keeping the level entry and maybe increasing the floor height elsewhere once you proved all the services at the accessible level such as WC etc


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    kceire wrote: »
    If you are making the ground floor inaccessible just to create the basement, then it will be refused.

    Can you not look at a different layout keeping the level entry and maybe increasing the floor height elsewhere once you proved all the services at the accessible level such as WC etc

    There's already an existing step into the entrance at street level but what I was proposing was to raise the floor level by 500mm as you enter the property by having a landing which would accommodate a wheelchair lift which I thought would be a suitable workaround. I would then have WC on both floors so all services will be accessible on both levels.

    I don't think there is much scope to redesign the layout without losing a significant amount of floor space which would defeat the whole purpose of raising the floor.


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    Gumbo
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    brenbrady wrote: »
    There's already an existing step into the entrance at street level but what I was proposing was to raise the floor level by 500mm as you enter the property by having a landing which would accommodate a wheelchair lift which I thought would be a suitable workaround. I would then have WC on both floors so all services will be accessible on both levels.

    I don't think there is much scope to redesign the layout without losing a significant amount of floor space which would defeat the whole purpose of raising the floor.

    That's more detail then what was posted in your first post.
    Based on that, it sounds possible.

    Is it Dublin city?
    You can prepare your plans and email them to the Building Control Section for an opinion on particular aspects of your design. They wont go though the whole application but if you have concerns with the entrance for example, then they will discuss that with you.

    Also worth noting, if there's an existing step, then there are allowances for existing buildings.


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    kceire wrote: »
    That's more detail then what was posted in your first post.
    Based on that, it sounds possible.

    Is it Dublin city?
    You can prepare your plans and email them to the Building Control Section for an opinion on particular aspects of your design. They wont go though the whole application but if you have concerns with the entrance for example, then they will discuss that with you.

    Also worth noting, if there's an existing step, then there are allowances for existing buildings.

    Thanks I'm also in the middle of something similar. Out of interest, would a wheelchair or platform lift be a work around for any set of internal steps? It was pointed out to me that some people with restricted mobility don’t like or can’t use ramps and prefer steps.


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    Gumbo
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    Anabelle Unkempt Curb wrote: »
    Thanks I'm also in the middle of something similar. Out of interest, would a wheelchair or platform lift be a work around for any set of internal steps? It was pointed out to me that some people with restricted mobility don’t like or can’t use ramps and prefer steps.

    Depends on the building, design and layout and subsequent DAC Application.
    I can assure you, people in wheelchairs do not prefer steps.


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    kceire wrote: »
    That's more detail then what was posted in your first post.
    Based on that, it sounds possible.

    Is it Dublin city?
    You can prepare your plans and email them to the Building Control Section for an opinion on particular aspects of your design. They wont go though the whole application but if you have concerns with the entrance for example, then they will discuss that with you.

    Also worth noting, if there's an existing step, then there are allowances for existing buildings.

    Thanks for this. Do you know what the allowances are for existing steps I can't find the section in Part M tgd? I measured up today and the existing step to the entrance is 170mm.


  • #8
    Gumbo
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    brenbrady wrote: »
    Thanks for this. Do you know what the allowances are for existing steps I can't find the section in Part M tgd? I measured up today and the existing step to the entrance is 170mm.

    No specific allowance.
    If it’s the existing entrance, and they can’t be altered you have to clearly explain it in the application.


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