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Do you work hard?

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    #122
    Ush1
    Registered Users Posts: 11,461 ✭✭✭✭Ush1


    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »
    Can you really not remember your degree classification? I understand that degree results become less important as one’s career progresses but I can’t fathom not being able to remember my degree classification.

    Nope, to be honest I couldn't tell you the classification the day after I did it. It really wasn't a big thing of interest to me at all. I'm just into tech, not loads of qualifications.


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    #123
    Ush1
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    Zachary Putrid Bread wrote: »
    The fact is though you won’t get the job to gain the experience without the required qualifications.

    The vast majority of of job advertisements have relevant degree in the “mandatory requirements” many now require a masters or even PhD depending on the area.

    You will also see lots of people who have great experience but no qualifications hit a roof in the career where they can’t progress further without having qualifications it’s why you see people doing night degrees etc in many areas.

    Once you get a certain experience level in IT/OT it makes no difference whatsoever. One of my former bosses was the best engineer in a particular technology in the country and didn't have a degree. He could have walked into many six figure roles(aside from the one he was in).


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    #124
    sbsquarepants
    Registered Users Posts: 11,812 ✭✭✭✭sbsquarepants


    Long story, but I feel like offloading!

    I used to work very hard, but to be honest it got me nowhere. I don't know if it's true of all jobs, but in mine the more you do the more you're expected to do. It got out of hand and led to me insisting I was put on a hourly rate rather than salary as the workload was just ridiculous - they agreed and my wages increased about 60 - 70% overnight. Not for nothing mind - there was a ton of extra work, which I done well and without complaint (after they start paying for it obviously!).

    After 2 or 3 years of this they decided I was being overpaid and tried to strong arm me back on to salary - I politely told them to fúck right off. Business slowed down so it became a bit of a non issue for a while, but now we have another busy spell on the horizon and the new manager is already making noises about how my pay is structure out of sync with everyone elses.

    Again I told him to poilitely fúck off.

    There is absolutely nothing as demotivating as your job actively begrudging you your pay after you've genuinely worked hard and performed well for them.

    Long story short - my days of breaking a sweat for them are over, it's just not my style to actively sabotage or even work to rule, but i'll just mosey along at my own pace. Their problems are not mine, if work builds up, they may hire someone else. I can absolutely guarantee I won't be stressing over it and they really only have themselves to blame.

    Penny wise and pound foolish as my auld nanny used to say.:D


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    #125
    bnt
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    In the job I recently finished, I pretended to work, while they pretended to pay me.

    From out there on the moon, international politics look so petty. You want to grab a politician by the scruff of the neck and drag him a quarter of a million miles out and say, ‘Look at that, you son of a bitch’.

    — Edgar Mitchell, Apollo 14 Astronaut



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    #126
    begbysback
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    Harry Palmr wrote: »
    Work hard when I working yes - and outside to boot. Fairly knackered when I get home at the moment but I'll never work indoors with any luck and certainly not at a desk, must be quite soul destroying.

    I don’t get where people think sitting at a desk is soul destroying, if I was at home I’d be on the laptop anyways, and my soul is fine.


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    #127
    HBC08
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    Bridger Big Swinger wrote: »
    Came off a 24 hour shift at 9am this morning. Physically I didn't work very hard, ie I wasnt building walls or running through ditches with a rifle and combat equipment fighting order, but I worked very long hours for very little money and that's hard on me and my family.

    Had a sleep when I came home and off out for a run now, but I'm still exhausted.

    Can i ask how you can work 24 hour shifts as most of the time its against law?
    Do you have a set time to sleep at work? One of my jobs is as above,a 24hr shift but 8 hours of that is for sleeping. It doesnt always work out like that and sometimes on a very difficult shift you might be pretty much on the go for 24hrs.If this happens you get extra pay of course.


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    #128
    Deebles McBeebles
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    begbysback wrote: »
    I don’t get where people think sitting at a desk is soul destroying, if I was at home I’d be on the laptop anyways, and my soul is fine.

    Big difference between deciding which porn site you are "using" next and doing actual work at your desktop.

    Its all relative but some people just aren't cut out for office work and for them it is soul destroying.


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    #129
    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts
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    Ush1 wrote: »
    Nope, to be honest I couldn't tell you the classification the day after I did it. It really wasn't a big thing of interest to me at all. I'm just into tech, not loads of qualifications.

    There are only four though. You really can’t remember if you got a first, an upper or lower second or a third?


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    #130
    sbsquarepants
    Registered Users Posts: 11,812 ✭✭✭✭sbsquarepants


    Deebles McBeebles wrote: »
    Big difference between deciding which porn site you are "using" next and doing actual work at your desktop.

    Its all relative but some people just aren't cut out for office work and for them it is soul destroying.

    My job is getting more and more office based as time goes by. Used to 50 / 50 more like 80 / 20 now - the more time I spend in the office listening to the bolloxology that gets spouted the more I want to get out and about!


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    #131
    pq0n1ct4ve8zf5
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    Sporadically yes. Today there's eff all to be doing, other days I'd not have time to take a bathroom break.

    I do two days of double shifts about every other weekend, which is two 14/15 hour days in a row, customer facing. Those are pretty taxing but there is no sweeter feeling on earth than waking up the next day and having it stretch out gloriously free in front of me. Thank Christ I haven't kids or anyone else to take care of, those are hard-core do absolutely nothing days, I get supplies in ahead of time!


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    #132
    begbysback
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    Deebles McBeebles wrote: »
    Big difference between deciding which porn site you are "using" next and doing actual work at your desktop

    Strangely enough you are incorrect, I used to work for a big internet company and one of the roles there was checking the links on porn sites.


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    #133
    Deebles McBeebles
    Registered Users Posts: 5,753 ✭✭✭Deebles McBeebles


    sbsquarepants wrote: »
    My job is getting more and more office based as time goes by. Used to 50 / 50 more like 80 / 20 now - the more time I spend in the office listening to the bolloxology that gets spouted the more I want to get out and about!

    Tell me about it. Seriously thinking about truck driving as an option.


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    #134
    Deebles McBeebles
    Registered Users Posts: 5,753 ✭✭✭Deebles McBeebles


    begbysback wrote: »
    Strangely enough you are incorrect, I used to work for a big internet company and one of the roles there was checking the links on porn sites.

    TBF that job is one in a million, most office jobs encourage you not to check porn links.


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    #135
    chrissb8
    Registered Users Posts: 1,169 ✭✭✭chrissb8


    Yer Da sells Avon wrote: »
    No. I work long and unsociable hours, but I have a very easy job.

    You sell Avon just like your Dad before you?


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    #136
    Fifty grades of shay.
    Registered Users Posts: 779 ✭✭✭Fifty grades of shay.


    begbysback wrote: »
    Strangely enough you are incorrect, I used to work for a big internet company and one of the roles there was checking the links on porn sites.

    :eek:, we may have interacted before.


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    #137
    begbysback
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,910 ✭✭✭begbysback


    Fifty grades of shay. wrote: »
    :eek:, we may have interacted before.

    You were a porn link clicker?


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    #138
    Ush1
    Registered Users Posts: 11,461 ✭✭✭✭Ush1


    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »
    There are only four though. You really can’t remember if you got a first, an upper or lower second or a third?

    Nope, just that I got a cert with Bachelor of Science. Even if I did remember it would be totally irrelevant. What I studied in college is completely different from the tech used now.


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    #139
    JupiterKid
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 12,616 Mod ✭✭✭✭JupiterKid


    I tend to put things I have to do on the long finger and can doss with the best of the dossiers but then there is a deadline (and let’s face it, without deadlines sweet FA would get done) and I am under pressure I can pull out all the stops and work hard to deliver the goods.


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    #140
    sbsquarepants
    Registered Users Posts: 11,812 ✭✭✭✭sbsquarepants


    begbysback wrote: »
    Strangely enough you are incorrect, I used to work for a big internet company and one of the roles there was checking the links on porn sites.

    Happy is the man who gets paid for his hobby!:D:D


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    #141
    Trump Is Right
    Closed Accounts Posts: 81 ✭✭Trump Is Right


    I work efficiently and intelligently, but no not particularly hard.

    My hours are streamlined down. But there is no wasted time in my day. Quality rather than quantity! :)


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    #142
    djan
    Registered Users Posts: 1,753 ✭✭✭djan


    HBC08 wrote: »
    Can i ask how you can work 24 hour shifts as most of the time its against law?
    Do you have a set time to sleep at work? One of my jobs is as above,a 24hr shift but 8 hours of that is for sleeping. It doesnt always work out like that and sometimes on a very difficult shift you might be pretty much on the go for 24hrs.If this happens you get extra pay of course.

    There's no such law if say, you are a doctor. Having one in the family 30+ hour shifts are not all that uncommon in busy times, and about 5 hours of "sleep". Astounding given the level of concentration needed.


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    #143
    Sugar Free
    Registered Users Posts: 1,639 ✭✭✭Sugar Free


    HBC08 wrote: »
    Can i ask how you can work 24 hour shifts as most of the time its against law?
    Do you have a set time to sleep at work? One of my jobs is as above,a 24hr shift but 8 hours of that is for sleeping. It doesnt always work out like that and sometimes on a very difficult shift you might be pretty much on the go for 24hrs.If this happens you get extra pay of course.

    If I remember rightly, Makikomi is a member of the Defence Forces. I'm not sure if all of the usual emploment laws apply to them. I'm sure he can confirm if/when he reads this.


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