Tour de France 2019 General Thread

24-07-2019 10:36am

MPFGLB wrote: »

Oomen, Kelderman ,Roche & Kemna are as good as any team out there (when fit) to support Dumoulin ... And no way was the team in 2017 better ...out right wrong

Really annoying when poor comms by Hatch & Kirby is 1. Believed and 2. spouted back verbatim

Most of what Kirby & Hatch say on 'weak' teams is redundant

Dumoulin is not leaving cos of team...the is leaving becasue of money

Sad really that Ineoa & JV will have all the top riders....not much chance for the rest with the smaller budgets .Plus we wont see some top riders ride against each other .Very bad for the sport

It's only a little insulting for you to think I'm incapable of forming my own opinion :rolleyes:

MPFGLB · 24-07-2019 10:45am

Deleted User wrote: »

It's only a little insulting for you to think I'm incapable of forming my own opinion :rolleyes:

Apologies...does sound bad.... if that what you believe you are entitled to you opinion and after all we only all here have opinions

More furious with comms for everyday on and on about weak teams ...
Riders on a climb man o man o and all they say is Alaphilipe or Dumoulin or whoever is isolated and the team is weak ....everyone is isolated at that point and even if they weren't its not much anyone can do ...unless you have Bernal with you and even then? Rob Hatch is particularly annoying

dastardly00 · 24-07-2019 10:47am

Andrey Amador's "modified" Fizik R1 shoes :eek:

De Bhál · 24-07-2019 11:02am

MPFGLB wrote: »

....everyone is isolated at that point and even if they weren't its not much anyone can do ...

in fairness, it is very useful having a teammate there with you if you have any bike issues and need to take his. Could be the winning or losing of the Tour for someone.

Weepsie · 24-07-2019 11:04am

De Bhál wrote: »

in fairness, it is very useful having a teammate there with you if you have any bike issues and need to take his. Could be the winning or losing of the Tour for someone.

Unless you're Conor Dunne. Twould be like me on a child's bike if he had to take a team mates

De Bhál · 24-07-2019 11:08am

Weepsie wrote: »

Unless you're Conor Dunne. Twould be like me on a child's bike if he had to take a team mates

"have you got your allen key set on you there Conor, and we'll get about dropping this saddle a bit"

Didn't a rider take a fans bike years ago to get down a mountain? maybe not...

edit...maybe so
https://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/latest-news/fan-gives-tyler-farrar-shoes-and-bike-after-crash-to-save-his-tour-down-under-207960

and an even more extreme example
http://www.stickybottle.com/latest-news/pro-rider-climbs-summit-finish-on-fans-1980s-granny-bike-after-crash/

Tim76 · 24-07-2019 11:12am

De Bhál wrote: »

Didn't a rider take a fans bike years ago to get down a mountain? maybe not...

Did Froome take the runners off a jogger and start running up a mountain? :P

24-07-2019 11:48am

What happened to Luis Leon? Non starter today, was he involved in the crash yesterday?

MPFGLB · 24-07-2019 11:51am

Deleted User wrote: »

What happened to Luis Leon? Non starter today, was he involved in the crash yesterday?

He hurt his back at the very beginning of the race

Inquitus · 25-07-2019 1:51pm

Ineos losing most of the team there no?

fryup · 25-07-2019 5:33pm

Luke Rowe, was thrown out of the race, together with his Jumbo Visma counterpart Tony Martin, after the pair had an altercation towards the end of stage 17.

a bit OTT?

jimbobaloobob · 25-07-2019 7:18pm

fryup wrote: »

a bit OTT?

Not really the rules are clear to the riders. Apparently there's more than what the live feed picked up. Get the impression that Luke Rowe isn't the most popular rider in the peloton

fryup · 25-07-2019 11:01pm

bit of an @sshole?

CramCycle · 25-07-2019 11:05pm

They both deserved it, no matter the instigator. One grabbed the other by the neck, the other switched out, on purpose, repeatedly. Christ, any other riders pulled this sh1t at an amateur race and they'd struggle to be let ride again if seen by the Comms. They got off lightly and am shocked everyone else seems to think a fine would have been more appropriate. Both maneuvers, regardless of instigation, could leave half the group in hospital very easily.

martyc5674 · 25-07-2019 11:20pm

CramCycle wrote: »

Both maneuvers, regardless of instigation, could leave half the group in hospital very easily.

Exactly my thoughts... could have caused carnage.

MPFGLB · 25-07-2019 11:23pm

jimbobaloobob wrote: »

Not really the rules are clear to the riders. Apparently there's more than what the live feed picked up. Get the impression that Luke Rowe isn't the most popular rider in the peloton

That is what Nicolas Roche told Orla of Eurosport

jimbobaloobob · 25-07-2019 11:28pm

MPFGLB wrote: »

That is what Nicolas Roche told Orla of Eurosport

Oh right I didn't think anyone would openly say it.

MPFGLB · 25-07-2019 11:35pm

jimbobaloobob wrote: »

Oh right I didn't think anyone would openly say it.

Oral said to Wiggo yesterday that Nicolas Roche told her Luke Rowe wasn't liked in the peloton ...not sure he meant it to be said live on TV though

jimbobaloobob · 25-07-2019 11:38pm

MPFGLB wrote: »

Oral said to Wiggo yesterday that Nicolas Roche told her Luke Rowe wasn't liked in the peloton ...not sure he meant it to be said live on TV though

He can pass that off with a "she said that he said" and he won't need body armour next time he rides along side him in the peleton.

Just a note I think all former ras riders are now out of the tour. Postelberger went today and Martin yesterday , is or was there any more than them in this years tour?

MPFGLB · 25-07-2019 11:40pm

jimbobaloobob wrote: »

He can pass that off with a "she said that he said" and he won't need body armour next time he rides along side him in the peleton.

Just a note I think all former ras riders are now out of the tour. Postelberger went today and Martin yesterday , is or was there any more than them in this years tour?

Did Xandro Merruise ride the RAS ??

jimbobaloobob · 25-07-2019 11:42pm

MPFGLB wrote: »

Did Xandro Merruise ride the RAS ??

When do you think he might have?

CramCycle · 25-07-2019 11:50pm

jimbobaloobob wrote: »

When do you think he might have?

I don't think he did, I know he rode for AP-CRC but he didn't come out for the Ras

tuxy · 25-07-2019 11:54pm

jimbobaloobob wrote: »

When do you think he might have?

He's in this provisional start list for 2015. Did he actually take part though?

http://www.stickybottle.com/latest-news/its-getting-close-now-start-list-for-the-2015-an-post-ras/

26-07-2019 12:04am

Someone's feeling the heat at DQS. Lefevre responds to a tweet about the Alaphillipe/soigneur pushing incident by calling Thijs Zonneveld a loser, half journalist and failed pro.

A bit petty, you'd assume someone in his position has better things to do in the evening these days than responding to inflammatory tweets from journalists.

dastardly00 · 26-07-2019 10:34am

The driver won't be able to see out the windscreen soon!

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Mefistofelino · 26-07-2019 10:52am

JA's goatee just reminds me of Blackadder

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dastardly00 · 27-07-2019 9:34am

https://twitter.com/robhatchtv/status/1155009440879448065

neris · 27-07-2019 10:02am

dastardly00 wrote: »

The driver won't be able to see out the windscreen soon!

he wouldnt be far out the carpark like that before being pulled over by an eagle eyed gendarme for having his vision obstructed

Acosta · 27-07-2019 10:20am

Just saw a video of it snowing heavily at the finish.

Lumen · 27-07-2019 10:24am

Acosta wrote: »

Just saw a video of it snowing heavily at the finish.

Here's a webcam from the resort. Looks OK.

https://www.valthorens.com/en/webcam/restaurant-la-maison

fryup · 27-07-2019 10:58pm

any chance Bernal could be overtaken on the final day?? flat tyre, crash?

tuxy · 27-07-2019 11:03pm

Crash, yes but unlikely he will be very careful.
Unwritten rule is you don't attack the yellow jersey because of mechanical/flat. Even if someone did attack the stage is so flat(take a look at the profile) he won't have trouble getting back on and that person would just end up looking like a scumbag with nothing to show for it.

Tomorrows stage is all about the sprinters and celebrating another tour rolling into Paris.

fryup · 27-07-2019 11:09pm

tuxy wrote: »

Unwritten rule is you don't attack the yellow jersey because of mechanical/flat. Even if someone did attack the stage is so flat(take a look at the profile) he won't have trouble getting back on and that person would just end up looking like a scumbag with nothing to show for it.

really

honour amongst cyclists as such?

27-07-2019 11:15pm

It's long been a procession stage , and a sprint finish.

I like that in the Giro they seem to alternate between a procession and a TT on the final day.

tuxy · 27-07-2019 11:27pm

fryup wrote: »

really

honour amongst cyclists as such?

Tradition and logic. If you look at the results from the other flat stages there is no time to be gained, these stages are won and lost by millimetres. There has to be more than one second between groups for time difference to GC if there are no real gaps everyone gets the same time for the stage.
Then if you take into consideration that the profile for tomorrow is even easier than the previous flat stages.
Everyone knows that the final GC stage is really stage 20.
Riders get to ride into Paris tomorrow and celebrate another tour while the sprinters put on a show for the crowd.

27-07-2019 11:43pm

Checking the results of some other racing and I see Cavendish was a DNF in an Italian stage race yesterday. Likely out of the time limit on the queen stage can't see any reporting on it in English and from the other stages wasn't exactly competitive or finishing in a position you'd expect if he'd even helped someone else in a sprint.

jimbobaloobob · 28-07-2019 12:01am

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Checking the results of some other racing and I see Cavendish was a DNF in an Italian stage race yesterday. Likely out of the time limit on the queen stage can't see any reporting on it in English and from the other stages wasn't exactly competitive or finishing in a position you'd expect if he'd even helped someone else in a sprint.

Was that the same one Conor Dunne was in that had a 20 min hail storm that had the grupetto take cover in bushes and cars. They came back for some of the bikes later. Wouldn't blame him if he DNF there

28-07-2019 12:09am

jimbobaloobob wrote: »

Was that the same one Conor Dunne was in that had a 20 min hail storm that had the grupetto take cover in bushes and cars. They came back for some of the bikes later. Wouldn't blame him if he DNF there

Yikes :eek:

Same race, Dunne is still there as of stage 3 and cav was dnf yesterday stage 2 which given events at the tour yeah can't blame him if he was caught him bad conditions.

jimbobaloobob · 28-07-2019 12:14am

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Yikes :eek:

Same race, Dunne is still there as of stage 3 and cav was dnf yesterday stage 2 which given events at the tour yeah can't blame him if he was caught him bad conditions.

Check up Conor Dunne's twitter account to see the video of it. Crazy hail stones

Angliru · 28-07-2019 11:06am

Eamonnator wrote: »

I'll bet you €20 that Dan finishes in the top 5.
If I win you pay to my charity, if you win I'll pay to your charity.

I've just had two glasses of wine with dinner.

Edit:I've looked at the odds on Paddy Power. Dan is 50/1 to win

Angliru wrote: »

I originally said for him not to podium, but **** it, I'm in. 20 quid it is.

Guess I won this :P

Barnardos Ireland is the charity I pick.

If you name your charity I'll donate €20 to them too, no hard feelings. The Tour was unreal this year besides the ****ty last two days due to the weather. I'm feeling I owe someone something as Tours happen once a decade, almost literally.

Shedite27 · 28-07-2019 1:07pm

tuxy wrote: »

Tradition and logic. If you look at the results from the other flat stages there is no time to be gained, these stages are won and lost by millimetres. There has to be more than one second between groups for time difference to GC if there are no real gaps everyone gets the same time for the stage.

Wait till Ineos are posing for the champagne on bikes photo, then attack. TTT to the end.

Eamonnator · 28-07-2019 1:35pm

Angliru wrote: »

Guess I won this :P

Barnardos Ireland is the charity I pick.

If you name your charity I'll donate €20 to them too, no hard feelings. The Tour was unreal this year besides the ****ty last two days due to the weather. I'm feeling I owe someone something as Tours happen once a decade, almost literally.

Yes, looks like you did.
I Have, just now, donated €30 to Barnardos Ireland.
If you PM your email, I'll forward the receipt, that I got from them.
My charity is Down Syndrome Ireland. Thank you kindly.
It's seldom, that nobody loses, where betting is concerned.
Pleasure dealing with you.

E.

Angliru · 28-07-2019 1:52pm

Eamonnator wrote: »

Yes, looks like you did.
I Have, just now, donated €30 to Barnardos Ireland.
If you PM your email, I'll forward the receipt, that I got from them.
My charity is Down Syndrome Ireland. Thank you kindly.
It's seldom, that nobody loses, where betting is concerned.
Pleasure dealing with you.

E.

Fair play. Yera that's grand, you can screenshot the email if you like.

30euro to Down Syndrome Ireland.

Pleasure dealing with you too.

dastardly00 · 28-07-2019 1:54pm

Fair play lads

Eamonnator · 28-07-2019 2:17pm

Angliru wrote: »

Fair play. Yera that's grand, you can screenshot the email if you like.

30euro to Down Syndrome Ireland.

Pleasure dealing with you too.

Chance would be a fine thing. I don't know how to take screen shots, and if I did, I don't know how to attach them here.

Edit.
I've just gone to school. I hope I've learned something.
Nope didn't work.

griffin100 · 28-07-2019 6:18pm

Nice to see that AG2R have finally got their ass in gear and given Bardet a set of polka dot shorts to match his jersey rather than making him wear the manky brown team shorts.

28-07-2019 6:35pm

https://www.vilaweb.cat/noticies/video-volta-penedes-tour-franca-temporal/

That wouldn't happen in France...

Dcully · 28-07-2019 10:27pm

Love this

https://twitter.com/i/status/1154510127174684672

Dr. Bre · 28-07-2019 10:58pm

Have the last stage a TT. It would hve made today fascinating

jimbobaloobob · 28-07-2019 11:20pm

Dr. Bre wrote: »

Have the last stage a TT. It would hve made today fascinating

That has happened many times before in GTs not sure it makes them more fascinating. I think today is a great way to honour the finishers and the ride in around the Louvre Museum was special, today's stage really show cases Paris.

Really good tour, great parcours, glad they werent afraid to mix it up a bit.

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