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Fox service

  • 01-07-2019 1:54pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 671 ✭✭✭


    Looking at getting my shock and fork serviced, where is good to get it done? And how much does it cost roughly?

    Thanks


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 252 ✭✭crosswords




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,773 ✭✭✭C3PO


    Expert Cycles Rathfarnham


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,903 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    Got tf to do a dropper last year, done a good job, but it has died a death, nothing to do with tf, they warned me of it, thankfully my lbs now services shocks and droppers etc, south east if its any good to you op?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,999 ✭✭✭Tenzor07


    C3PO wrote: »
    Expert Cycles Rathfarnham

    As C3PO says, Expert cycles, the head mechanic Robin is a whizz with shox...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,045 ✭✭✭fatbhoy


    Genuine question: for a service, why would anyone post their forks/shock over to TF Tuning in the UK when postage is £30? Why not get a service done here?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 686 ✭✭✭steamsey


    fatbhoy wrote: »
    Genuine question: for a service, why would anyone post their forks/shock over to TF Tuning in the UK when postage is £30? Why not get a service done here?

    I'd say it's people who live no where near a bike shop that can do suspension or maybe someone wants a specific upgrade that TF can do.

    Anyone teach themselves to do their own suspension? Along with frame bearings, I've been meaning to give it a go.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,903 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    fatbhoy wrote:
    Genuine question: for a service, why would anyone post their forks/shock over to TF Tuning in the UK when postage is £30? Why not get a service done here?


    I would have had to travel a bit to get services done, as none of my lbs's were willing or able to do so, they all sent them to the UK for this. One of my lbs's only charged me tk's charge, so no gain for themselves


  • Registered Users Posts: 223 ✭✭Biopace


    This may depend on the age of your bike, but I recently went about getting my rear Fox Shock serviced with TF for my 2017 bike, turned out it was cheaper and quicker to buy a new (old stock) shock on CRC.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 686 ✭✭✭steamsey


    Might give the shock a go - this article makes it sounds very easy

    https://www.mbr.co.uk/mountain-bike-videos/workshop/service-fox-float-air-can-video-321871

    They reckon 30 mins work.

    They say to do it every 7 or 8 weeks!!!!! Jaysus. I'm about 60 weeks since mine was serviced.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,903 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    Biopace wrote:
    This may depend on the age of your bike, but I recently went about getting my rear Fox Shock serviced with TF for my 2017 bike, turned out it was cheaper and quicker to buy a new (old stock) shock on CRC.


    Yea its not cheap, I should have just bought a new dropper, but it annoys me when stuff can be fixed or serviced, without the need to be replaced


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,630 ✭✭✭prunudo


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    Yea its not cheap, I should have just bought a new dropper, but it annoys me when stuff can be fixed or serviced, without the need to be replaced

    Maybe not for shocks or forks but when you see the price of some droppers its hard not buy new vs the price of repair and having to bring back to a shop if there isn't one near by.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,059 ✭✭✭kirving


    Serviced my Fox 34 Rhythm recently.

    You do have to be careful and a little bit creative when it comes to disassembly and reassembly without the exact right tools, but not too hard a job at all for a DIYer.

    One thing I would say for the fork, is be careful not to coat the damper shaft in oil when re-assembling. ie: swift it in slowly and use a tube on the syringe.

    There is no actual feature to stop the shaft spinning inside the fork housing as you tighten the on the outside nut, so it requires just the friction of the shaft against the housing to hold the shift in place. Oil here is not your friend.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,261 ✭✭✭saccades


    fatbhoy wrote: »
    Genuine question: for a service, why would anyone post their forks/shock over to TF Tuning in the UK when postage is £30? Why not get a service done here?

    They were the dtswiss service agent for UK/Ireland so no choice for a warranty repair. Also the last place to do spv rear shocks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,373 ✭✭✭iwillhtfu


    You could service a shock yourself no bother its just a few seals and O rings you can get a pack to suit your shock.

    I'm not sure about the fork but I'm sure with a bit of research it wouldn't be to difficult.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 477 ✭✭FirstinLastout


    Do it yerself, easy job!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,999 ✭✭✭Tenzor07


    Do it yerself, easy job!

    I'd give it a bash meself if it were older forks, not in warranty...a few oul youtube videos and will be grand...

    But for newer forks costing around €1000 still in warranty, I would leave it to the professionals...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 686 ✭✭✭steamsey


    Do it yerself, easy job!

    I've the seals and oil in the post for my shock. Cost €30 quid. Been meaning to try it for years. If that goes well, I'll look at the forks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,373 ✭✭✭iwillhtfu


    steamsey wrote: »
    I've the seals and oil in the post for my shock. Cost €30 quid. Been meaning to try it for years. If that goes well, I'll look at the forks.

    It couldn't easier no more than a 30min job but be sure to let the air out of it before you go unscrewing the thing :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,903 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    steamsey wrote:
    I've the seals and oil in the post for my shock. Cost €30 quid. Been meaning to try it for years. If that goes well, I'll look at the forks.


    Where did you get the bits and bobs?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 686 ✭✭✭steamsey


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    Where did you get the bits and bobs?

    https://www.bike-components.de/en/Fox-Racing-Shox/Float-Line-Air-Sleeve-Rebuild-Kit-p20050/

    Did a bit of googling and found this kit should do my shock which is a Fox Float X DPS Factory. It does say that this kit does all Fox Shocks since 2000 so that's handy.

    I was going to just get the oil and do a clean and re-oil but it's been a year at least since that shock saw any love so I decided to just do all the seals when I'm at it


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 686 ✭✭✭steamsey


    Official FOX video for servicing Float shocks is here - https://www.ridefox.com/fox17/help.php?m=bike&id=570

    I'll prob use this vid when I do it though - https://www.mbr.co.uk/mountain-bike-videos/workshop/service-fox-float-air-can-video-321871


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,458 ✭✭✭Gerry


    In terms of shops I'd use expert, I'm sure there are others also. As mentioned after postage you are going to be saving money and keeping the business in ireland. However they do not service fox pull shocks which the jekyll I had borrowed had.. so i sent that to silver fish.

    I did with help from a friend service a fox 32 years ago and more recently did a full uppers and lowers on the pike. Sram provide a very detailed full service manual ( I think fox do also )
    It took a bit of time but was a satisfying project. You need to be somewhat mechanically minded and patient. Of course as with anything if you were to do them regularly youd get much quicker
    There wasnt any particular special tool needed and no clamping in a vice which I remember from the fox service.

    In short I think lowers on the fork and air can on the shock is doable for most folks and those are the more frequent services needed anyways


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 686 ✭✭✭steamsey


    Did the rear shock air can service over the weekend.

    Was very easy. Was always slightly afraid to go near suspension in case I messed it up but followed the official Fox video I posted a few posts back and it was pretty straight forward. Replaced all the seals when I was at it. It wasn't in too bad condition inside, after 2 years or so since last service but needed a clean out. No way I'll be paying €120 for that again in a shop.

    The only thing that stumped me was trying to get screw the air can off. For the life of me I couldn't get it to move. Read online that the negative air chamber can hold pressure and keep the air can from screwing off. Pumped the shock back up to 150psi (on the bike). Let out 50 psi, cycle it through full stroke, let put 50 psi and repeat. Then the air can came straight off.

    Did all pivot bearings when I was at it. Bought a bearing press which was useful but not perfect. Replaced BB, headset bearings, new brake lever, bled brakes. Back brake was a bastard to bleed - the lever (master cylinder) wouldn't take the fluid. Eventually some went through but it's not perfect. Front bled perfectly. Put new pads in too.

    I think for €25 per brake, it's worth getting a shop to do the brakes - I spent waaay to long on the back brakes.

    Also new stans valves and fluid in both tyres. Old valves were sticking and cores were bent.

    Left to do are forks and dropper but might get the LBS to do them in the interest of getting back out on bike soonest.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 421 ✭✭covey123


    Fair play, I've two forks and shocks that are overdue that I've been putting off doing, must get the finger out and get stuck in!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,028 ✭✭✭boomdocker


    forks and shock - leave it to the experts in the bike shops, everything else can be done at home

    I used to do my own forks, but then realised that the bike shop was doing them much better than I could. Simple things like using the correct grease makes a huge difference

    Recently used Bikeology in Naas to have a fork and shock service done and they did a great job, really plush after the service
    Expert Cycles in Rathfarnham as well


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,903 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    boomdocker wrote:
    Recently used Bikeology in Naas to have a fork and shock service done and they did a great job, really plush after the service Expert Cycles in Rathfarnham as well

    How much was that?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,028 ✭✭✭boomdocker


    about 80 for the fork and 50 for the shock


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 686 ✭✭✭steamsey


    boomdocker wrote: »
    about 80 for the fork and 50 for the shock

    That's very reasonable. Back in the day OC Tuning would charge about €120 for each. Not sure if he was doing air can / lower or getting in any deeper than that.

    €50 for rear air can service makes it probably worth getting the shop to do. Seal and oil kit costs €30-ish plus say hour of your time.

    I think Expert were about €100 each for forks and shock but it's been a while.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,373 ✭✭✭iwillhtfu


    The price will vary depending on the type of for and shock. I can't see how a store services a shock for €50 that would leave little to be made from it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,059 ✭✭✭kirving


    boomdocker wrote: »
    forks and shock - leave it to the experts in the bike shops, everything else can be done at home

    I used to do my own forks, but then realised that the bike shop was doing them much better than I could. Simple things like using the correct grease makes a huge difference

    Recently used Bikeology in Naas to have a fork and shock service done and they did a great job, really plush after the service
    Expert Cycles in Rathfarnham as well

    To be fair, it doesn't take an expert to use the correct grease. All the specs are available online, the parts available in kits, and there are a myriad of instructional videos. If you can assemble Ikea furniture and have a basic socket set, you can service a fork.

    People place quite a lot of mystery around their expensive bike, but there's nothing more to them than a few nuts and bolts really.

    I do draw the line at specialist tools though, it sometimes just isn't worth investing in and the storing something like a wheel truing stand for example.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,400 ✭✭✭Caroline_ie




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