Roscommon GAA Discussion Thread

rossie1977 · 19-01-2020 8:19pm

We are at bare-bones right now alright. Really lacking numbers in defense, forwards and struggling in midfield. Glennon is latest injury so it will be interesting to see who starts next Sunday in full forward line.

Thought O'Malley had a very poor first half in terms of kick outs. Someone said he was better finding the Galway players than the Galway keeper.. second half he improved.

We tired very quickly yesterday after a decent start. Nobody outside Lennon really put their hand up for selection vs Laois.

Have to say I was impressed with Galway. The high press in first half killed us completely. They have a great pick now with so many young players coming through. Varley played out of his skin yesterday, no Roscommon player got near him all day. With the Corofin players to return you would have to fancy Galway for Connacht this year and then a semi final at minimum seems very achievable for this team especially given Connacht champions avoid Dublin and Kerry in super 8 group this year.

Farmer_3650 · 26-01-2020 6:33pm

Very disappointing game. Will struggle against the likes of Kildare and Armagh with performances like that.

rossie1977 · 26-01-2020 7:16pm

It's hard to know in this division, on the evidence of this we will get well beat but we lost at home to Down last time and still won division.

Today was poor. Conceding 20 points to a team promoted from division 3 is a problem. We barely laid a hand on the Laois lads all day, letting them run and kick to their hearts content. Leading by 6 in 34th minute and still only drawing suggests major issues.

I thought our approach play was so slow and ponderous all afternoon. The two times we injected some pace and power forward runs resulted in goal and penalty. Not starting Lennon was very strange because we had no focal point in attack to hit so kept passing it over and back.

Hyde continues to me of no advantage to Roscommon at all.

blazermel · 26-01-2020 8:43pm

A joke of a performance to put it mildly. Leggy, sluggish, no impetus in attack but still managed to go 6 points up. To squander that lead by conceding two cheap goals in injury time - beggars belief. Poor game management and we'll struggle now to pick up the points required elsewhere.

Edgware · 28-01-2020 1:07pm

Farmer_3650 wrote: »

Very disappointing game. Will struggle against the likes of Kildare and Armagh with performances like that.

I agree. Already its a case of maintaining D2 status and seeing what the Summer brings

megadodge · 31-01-2020 11:37pm

After the Laois game I was disappointed. And confused.
I couldn't figure how such a good outfit could play so badly.
I also couldn't understand how one or two simple changes that the dogs in the street could see, weren't made.

For the first 20 minutes, Roscommon players looked so..... listless, tired, whatever. I wondered had they had some heavy training too close to the match - in other words, were they were overlooking Laois? At least 5 times in that period a Roscommon player in possession was either pinged for overcarrying or dispossessed by multiple Laois players. This was simply because there was not a single Roscommon player helping them out. Nobody was looking for the ball, except Donie who was isolated with at least 2 markers.

They improved for the last 10 minutes or so, led by Brian Stack, who should simply never, ever be wasted at full-back. He's far too valuable to the team farther out the field. He's a dynamic player, not a man-marker. Yet, in spite of all the trouble he was having, when Conor Daly came on.... they played him at wing back????

Gary Patterson was eaten alive and stayed on for the whole match. Why? He's not good enough. Sorry for being so blunt, but it's the truth.

And I cannot let Noel Gately away with his incredibly greedy decision to NOT pass the ball to an unmarked Cian McKeown straight in front of a near-empty net, for what would have been a 99% certainty of a goal and a match sealer. If a 12 year old did that, you'd be taking him aside after the match to hammer home the importance of the TEAM!!! Personal glory is irrelevant. It's all about the TEAM Noel!! Unfortunately, like so many star players from small clubs, where they don't have much quality around them and feel they have to do it themselves, he took the stupid option. And he has a long history of doing the same, which is why I don't buy the excuse some have made for him of being inexperienced.

Anyway, sorry for the rant, but once I thought more about it, this could be a blessing in disguise, because if Roscommon had won that game by 5 or 6 points having played poorly, it would have papered over a lot of cracks and mistakes. Maybe this can act as a kick up the arse and make everyone realise that you cannot take any team for granted. If they have realised that, I believe they should beat Fermanagh on Sunday.

Hawkeye9212 · 01-02-2020 12:18am

megadodge wrote: »

After the Laois game I was disappointed. And confused.
I couldn't figure how such a good outfit could play so badly.
I also couldn't understand how one or two simple changes that the dogs in the street could see, weren't made.

For the first 20 minutes, Roscommon players looked so..... listless, tired, whatever. I wondered had they had some heavy training too close to the match - in other words, were they were overlooking Laois? At least 5 times in that period a Roscommon player in possession was either pinged for overcarrying or dispossessed by multiple Laois players. This was simply because there was not a single Roscommon player helping them out. Nobody was looking for the ball, except Donie who was isolated with at least 2 markers.

They improved for the last 10 minutes or so, led by Brian Stack, who should simply never, ever be wasted at full-back. He's far too valuable to the team farther out the field. He's a dynamic player, not a man-marker. Yet, in spite of all the trouble he was having, when Conor Daly came on.... they played him at wing back????

Gary Patterson was eaten alive and stayed on for the whole match. Why? He's not good enough. Sorry for being so blunt, but it's the truth.

And I cannot let Noel Gately away with his incredibly greedy decision to NOT pass the ball to an unmarked Cian McKeown straight in front of a near-empty net, for what would have been a 99% certainty of a goal and a match sealer. If a 12 year old did that, you'd be taking him aside after the match to hammer home the importance of the TEAM!!! Personal glory is irrelevant. It's all about the TEAM Noel!! Unfortunately, like so many star players from small clubs, where they don't have much quality around them and feel they have to do it themselves, he took the stupid option. And he has a long history of doing the same, which is why I don't buy the excuse some have made for him of being inexperienced.

Anyway, sorry for the rant, but once I thought more about it, this could be a blessing in disguise, because if Roscommon had won that game by 5 or 6 points having played poorly, it would have papered over a lot of cracks and mistakes. Maybe this can act as a kick up the arse and make everyone realise that you cannot take any team for granted. If they have realised that, I believe they should beat Fermanagh on Sunday.

Roscommon should beat Fermanagh. Most teams have figured out how to beat ultra defensive teams at this stage. Laois will be decent team going forward so I wouldn't read too much into it. It was the first proper game of the season as well.

blowitupref · 01-02-2020 12:35am

Hawkeye9212 wrote: »

Roscommon should beat Fermanagh. Most teams have figured out how to beat ultra defensive teams at this stage. Laois will be decent team going forward so I wouldn't read too much into it. It was the first proper game of the season as well.

By all accounts Fermanagh weren't ultra defensive against Kildare in Newbridge and could easily have got something out of that game as Fermanagh missed a number of goal chances.

Roscommon are apparently missing half of their championship team from last summer they will do well to come out of Brewster Park with a win i'd say.

Comic Book Guy · 01-02-2020 12:37am

I heard that Ronan Daly can be added to the long term injured list.

Hawkeye9212 · 01-02-2020 3:18am

blowitupref wrote: »

By all accounts Fermanagh weren't ultra defensive against Kildare in Newbridge and could easily have got something out of that game as Fermanagh missed a number of goal chances.

Roscommon are apparently missing half of their championship team from last summer they will do well to come out of Brewster Park with a win i'd say.

Roscommon have a larger panel than Fermanagh and the quality of football is higher so I would still expect them to come out with a win.

02-02-2020 3:33am

Laois beating Armagh fairly easy yesterday puts last week's result up as pretty decent imo.

franglan · 02-02-2020 9:51am

Coinciding two goals when you should have had one foot in the dressing room doesn't make it a good result. We were six points up and the better team

02-02-2020 1:57pm

I was trying to look at the positives

No one's disputing that it was poor form the level of profligacy at the end,
disgusting for the fan to see it. Laois being a decent yardstick at this level was mainly the point I was making.

Hopefully get back on track this afternoon against Fermanagh

blowitupref · 02-02-2020 6:03pm

Hawkeye9212 wrote: »

Roscommon have a larger panel than Fermanagh and the quality of football is higher so I would still expect them to come out with a win.

The team with the better panel today won. Roscommon struggling to cope with a injury crisis and will do well to avoid the drop now.

megadodge · 09-02-2020 8:16pm

Well, a win is a win. The points were badly needed and they were got.

Enda, Darcy and Stack were outstanding. Virtually all good Roscommon moves involved those players.

I know people were getting impatient during the second half with the bell retention, but from Roscommon's point of view, that was simply what was needed in order to win. And considering how bad it looked at half-time with 'only' a 6 point lead and a man down it was smart play.

Speaking of sending offs, when the hell are the Dalys going to realise that mouthing off at referees and acting the bolox in general is bad for the team? If you get booked in a match for mouthing at a ref, it should be the only time in your career it happens, otherwise there have to be serious question marks over your intelligence!

Roscommon were by far the better team when they opened up as it must be said Clare were terrible in the second half. They didn't even hit a wide in the first half and never looked like scoring from play in the second

windy shepard henderson · 09-02-2020 9:19pm

megadodge wrote: »

Well, a win is a win. The points were badly needed and they were got.

Enda, Darcy and Stack were outstanding. Virtually all good Roscommon moves involved those players.

I know people were getting impatient during the second half with the bell retention, but from Roscommon's point of view, that was simply what was needed in order to win. And considering how bad it looked at half-time with 'only' a 6 point lead and a man down it was smart play.

Speaking of sending offs, when the hell are the Dalys going to realise that mouthing off at referees and acting the bolox in general is bad for the team? If you get booked in a match for mouthing at a ref, it should be the only time in your career it happens, otherwise there have to be serious question marks over your intelligence!

Roscommon were by far the better team when they opened up as it must be said Clare were terrible in the second half. They didn't even hit a wide in the first half and never looked like scoring from play in the second

Clare were awful in fairness, it happens at least once every league. Normally on the 3rd week in a row we have no backbone to the panel and very little on the bench good enough to rotate

The winning and loosing of the game was ball retention and possession, roscommon controlled the second half, don't ask what our tactics were in the second half, we had nothing to offer today really

megadodge · 09-02-2020 11:21pm

Nearly forgot - I spend enough time giving out about the very regular poor winning of the breaking ball it's only fair that I should mention that Roscommon did extremely well on the breaking ball today. Wonder of wonders!

blazermel · 19-02-2020 10:11am

Anyone any suggestions on parking for the match in Newbridge? I seem to remember when we played them last in Division 2 it was a bit of a nightmare looking for on street parking.

Lundstram · 20-02-2020 1:18pm

blazermel wrote: »

Anyone any suggestions on parking for the match in Newbridge? I seem to remember when we played them last in Division 2 it was a bit of a nightmare looking for on street parking.

Whitewater Shopping Centre multi-story. 5 minute walk away. And you get free parking if you show them your programme from the game.

blazermel · 22-02-2020 11:36am

Lundstram wrote: »

Whitewater Shopping Centre multi-story. 5 minute walk away. And you get free parking if you show them your programme from the game.

Super, thanks for that!

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater · 24-02-2020 1:16am

Reads like a decent win (if not a brilliant performance) in Newbridge, anyone at it?

rn · 24-02-2020 1:31am

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote: »

Reads like a decent win (if not a brilliant performance) in Newbridge, anyone at it?

Yes. Fantastic result. Very strange game. Roscommon were outstanding for 10 mins, then completely dominated for 25. Went in just 2 points down. Second half was give and take for both sides until roscommon got a goal and introduced Cox and Compton. Second goal killed kildare and they gave up altogether in added time.

01-03-2020 2:20am

Hoping for wins for Fermanagh and Kildare, think Cavan will beat Clare. Should beat Westmeath handy enough and it's bonus territory with div 2 status pretty much guaranteed.

Two big games coming up so need to have a bit of a cushion in a division where all teams have at least some chance of promotion going by the points table and no one is consigned to relegation yet..

Roscommon to be in 2nd spot on their own come 16.00 will do atm :pac:

rn · 01-03-2020 1:30pm

If we play like we played in the first 10 mins last week for the majority of the game, we'll hammer Westmeath. But if that 25 minute snooze is repeated at wrong time in the game, we could easily lose.

megadodge · 01-03-2020 8:36pm

Good solid win.

After the poor first two matches, the team seem to be settling in and are playing much more assured football. They always looked the better team today and 7 points is a fair reflection of the difference between the sides.

As usual, some in the crowd were grumbling in the second half when Roscommon were comfortably playing keep-ball while holding an 8-9 point lead. Why? That's just good game management. If the opposition can't get a hand on the ball they can't win - simple stuff really.

I thought Hubert Darcy was excellent in the first half and he really is blossoming into an outstanding half-forward after spending a lot of his career unimpressively playing in the full-forward line. Davy Murray is also getting more and more attack concious while not fouling as much anymore. Great to see Cathal Compton getting more time. He really is vital to Roscommon's cause.

With Cavan's loss to Clare, Roscommon have a great chance to get promoted now. Obviously if Cavan can't beat Clare and with Roscommon's good record against Cavan that should be a winable game. The game against Armagh next week is hard to call, but if Roscommon keep improving at the steady pace they have been in recent weeks they could get a result there.

RoscommonTom · 08-03-2020 1:30am

absolutely humiliated in the u20 today, embarasing,

RossieMan · 09-03-2020 11:11am

RoscommonTom wrote:

absolutely humiliated in the u20 today, embarasing,

Always very insightful Tom. Full of useful and valuable feedback.

Beaten by a much better team, nothing embarrassing about it.

White lighting · 09-03-2020 12:03pm

RossieMan wrote: »

Always very insightful Tom. Full of useful and valuable feedback.

Beaten by a much better team, nothing embarrassing about it.

The margin of victory for Galway was embarressing. Players didnt perform but were badly set up by management and looked badly coached. Its a pity as on paper it was a talented Roscommon side. Hopefully County board can get in a better management team for next year

megadodge · 09-03-2020 4:04pm

That was a shocking performance by the U20s.

I know the conditions were atrocious, but when they had the wind in the first half some of the 'passing' to the small inside forwards was utterly abysmal. Big huge garryowens that wouldn't have been out of place on a rugby pitch. It just made no sense!

When Roscommon had the ball, the ease with which they were turned over was very disappointing. The forwards in particular were very light and totally dominated by a far more physically mature Galway side.

Once the first goal went in in the first half, I felt it was curtains, but the second one made it certain. And both goals came from cheap turnovers. I never leave a game early, but I was sorely tempted in the middle of the second half. Considering the ability of that team it was a very, very poor performance.

The only bright spot was seeing Shane Cunnane playing again. He made a big difference when he came on, even though the game was long lost. He's a serious talent.

Galway looked a very impressive outfit and I'd be interested in seeing how far they go.

rosknight · 10-03-2020 10:55am

Such was the shambles of Saturday's game, I am beginning to think that if St. Brigid's u20 team were lined out against Galway they would not have done any worse than the team Tully put out on the pitch. It appears that he is out of his depth and is obviously not able to communicate to the players when he had them back out on the pitch early for the second half getting soaked.

megadodge · 28-03-2020 5:39pm

Just heard the shocking news that former Roscommon player Conor Connelly dropped dead this morning. Only around 43/44 agegroup. Excellent player.
RIP

Pique · 28-03-2020 6:19pm

Jaysus. I went to school with him!

RIP Conor.

padd b1975 · 28-03-2020 9:15pm

RIP.

Jeju · 06-09-2020 9:12am

SF day today and being an ex pat I have seen more club football this year than ever before. One thing I was dreading was the rambling nonsense of Willy (apologies Willy) but we do have a few lads who are well capable who keeps it simple and keeps to whats happening on the field. A young Bridets vs Boyle up first is hard to call, Bridets growing in confidence and gelling nicely just might shade it, however this depends on the fitness if Donie Smith. If Smith plays then I can see the fire power and experience of Boyle get them over the line. Clan vs Pearses will be similarly close and I have enjoyed Cathal Shines midfield brilliance over the term. Pearses loss to Tulsk was a blip they needed and no doubt hammered into their heads, there is a draw all over this one. On a side note, there is a wealth of brilliant forwards around the county who are up against some great tenacious footballing backs, if we could unearth a midfield paring, we could be a top 4 team when we get back to business fully next year.

06-09-2020 3:37pm

TG4 showing the upcoming Clann na Gael - Pearses match

Rossvet · 07-09-2020 6:38pm

Had to stop listening to the Boyle/Brigids game as Willie was absolutely fkn awful.
Worst I've ever heard and needs to be put out to grass.

White lighting · 07-09-2020 6:54pm

Rossvet wrote: »

Had to stop listening to the Boyle/Brigids game as Willie was absolutely fkn awful.
Worst I've ever heard and needs to be put out to grass.

Kevin Egan provided some very good commentary during the course of the championship for the games Roscommon gaa showed. Hopefully he could be approached to do more. He was miles better than Duke and Willie talks about everything bar the match

beggars_bush · 07-09-2020 10:01pm

Surely they shouldn't have a full time employee doing commentary on those games?

Blanco100 · 08-09-2020 11:00am

White lighting wrote: »

Kevin Egan provided some very good commentary during the course of the championship for the games Roscommon gaa showed. Hopefully he could be approached to do more. He was miles better than Duke and Willie talks about everything bar the match

Willie Hegarty is disgracefully bad he really is. Listeners literally have no idea if the ball is in play or not. Only starts calling the play once the ball is near the goal.

He must have nobody at the station capable telling him his weaknesses. Personal cringe moment from weekend was when he christened pearses with the nickname Muhammed Ali.

Jaysus.

Jeju · 20-09-2020 9:32pm

Congrats to a very impressive St Brigids today, this could be a start of another dominant few years. 1st half was a tight ugly affair but as soon as STB got the goal Pearces were in trouble with what I thought was negative play. Oran in intermediate will be a great addition to the Senior championship next year and have some lovely natural ball players. Think we may have found a classy midfielder in Eddie Nolan and I think we are in a good place county wise with talent coming through

Rossvet · 21-09-2020 11:14am

Yep Eddie looked to have something to offer when he briefly wore the County Jersey earlier in the year.
Well done Brids, good to see football beating negativity.
Willie H even worse yesterday.
Really is an embarrassment at this stage.

Blanco100 · 21-09-2020 11:49am

Rossvet wrote: »

Yep Eddie looked to have something to offer when he briefly wore the County Jersey earlier in the year.
Well done Brids, good to see football beating negativity.
Willie H even worse yesterday.
Really is an embarrassment at this stage.

Willie obviously has alot of clout, nobody to answer to at Shannonside. He really is desperate bad.

He must think he is on television and the listener can see everything as he sh*tes on. Sooner they get a proper play by play man the better. You can tell he doesn't enjoy having a side kick either, he will often butt in when the co-commentator is recapping trying to describe the play that Willie has no intention of doing.

Rossvet · 21-09-2020 2:49pm

Yep.
On radio you want to hear where the ball is, where about on the field are they and what do they do with it.
Blathering on about strawberries and cream and Wimbledon and then saying "Oh that was a fabulous point ".....

rossie1977 · 21-09-2020 4:23pm

Bridgets very impressive considering how young many of the players are, if I was every other club in Roscommon I would prepare for a decade of domination based on that showing.

Pearses very disappointing, once Bridgets got the goal they simply waltzed through the defence over and over. Worrying to see heads drop so quickly on experienced players many with county experience.

Anyways congrats to Bridgets and Órán in the intermediate. The lads let themselves down in the under 20s final vs Galway but 8-9 of those players started for Órán and Bridgets this weekend and were top class.

rosknight · 12-10-2020 2:38pm

GARDAÍ IN ROSCOMMON have launched an investigation after it was alleged a GAA team held a dinner for up to 50 people following a challenge match over the weekend.
The investigation concerns an event in the town of Boyle following a match between Roscommon and Donegal.
Officers received a number of calls from concerned locals who informed them that the gathering was taking place, the Irish Daily Mail reporting this morning.
The organisers have told gardaí they were complying with the regulations and did not breach them, according to sources familiar with the investigation.

Rossvet · 12-10-2020 3:15pm

Post match meal for the team. All in order as "elite" sports people.
Meal in the Hall in Boyle which has capacity of hundreds in normal time.
Local busybodies having a field day.
Media reporting giving impression it was in a pub.

rosknight · 12-10-2020 3:46pm

Where exactly does it say in the Covid Guidelines that 50 people can dine together indoors.

tanko · 12-10-2020 4:03pm

rosknight wrote: »

Where exactly does it say in the Covid Guidelines that 50 people can dine together indoors.

It's grand, there was a partition down the middle of the room.

White lighting · 12-10-2020 4:12pm

rosknight wrote: »

Where exactly does it say in the Covid Guidelines that 50 people can dine together indoors.

In the specific guidelines that were issued by the Government to Elite sports teams.

Rossvet · 12-10-2020 6:43pm

Otherwise the Kerry kads will have to travel to Inniskeen and back with only a sandwich to eat over 16 or so hours.

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