Champions Cup 2019/20 Round 6 - All to play for

Brewster · 19-01-2020 5:55pm

So who do Ulster want? Toulouse or Exeter?

bilston · 19-01-2020 6:10pm

Brewster wrote: »

So who do Ulster want? Toulouse or Exeter?

Exeter probably. I think winning any knockout game in France is really difficult. Exeter are probably a better side than Toulouse, but for some reason I could see us winning there.

bilston · 19-01-2020 6:11pm

lotmc wrote: »

So if Leinster beat Sorrycheats, they get to play winners of Exeter V Northampton in the Semi, again at home in the Aviva. If they win, they probably get a French team in the final in France (sorry Ulster, but c'est la vie).

Nothing easy about it, but will be very sweet if they pull it off.

Could still be Exeter v Ulster and Toulouse v Northampton

degsie · 19-01-2020 6:18pm

Relish the Lein V Sar game, should be a sellout!

Brewster · 19-01-2020 6:21pm

Somehow Toulouse fail to score again to secure second seeds. Northampton would have been easier for them than Ulster. Going to very difficult for ulster but not impossible, Toulouse will give up tries, so could be a high scoring game.

ionadnapokot · 19-01-2020 6:29pm

degsie wrote: »

Relish the Lein V Sar game, should be a sellout!

Aye. Two “genuine” heavyweights

Exclamation Marc · 19-01-2020 7:05pm

lotmc wrote: »

So if Leinster beat Sorrycheats, they get to play winners of Exeter V Northampton in the Semi, again at home in the Aviva. If they win, they probably get a French team in the final in France (sorry Ulster, but c'est la vie).

Nothing easy about it, but will be very sweet if they pull it off.

That's incorrect. Exeter as Seed 2 are on the other side of the draw. We'd have the winner of Clermont v Racing in a semi final.

Eod100 · 19-01-2020 7:09pm

Squidgy Black wrote: »

Foregone conclusion that Toulouse have this bagged up, likely to get a BP as well so fixtures will look as follows:

1. 1 Leinster vs 8. Saracens
2 . 4 Clermont vs 5 Racing
3. 3 Toulouse vs 6 Ulster
4. 2 Exeter vs 7 Northampton

So Leinster/Saracens v Clermont/Racing. And Toulouse/Ulster v Exeter/Northampton? Tough draw for Leinster

Squidgy Black · 19-01-2020 7:10pm

For Leinster it'd be Sarries at home and then Clermont or Racing at home. Final would likely be Exeter or Ulster.

Other than the Exeter game, all of those semis are huge matchups.

Eod100 · 19-01-2020 7:16pm

Squidgy Black wrote: »

For Leinster it'd be Sarries at home and then Clermont or Racing at home. Final would likely be Exeter or Ulster.

Other than the Exeter game, all of those semis are huge matchups.

I think Toulouse at home would be very tough for Ulster. Exeter should beat Northamption alright

Squidgy Black · 19-01-2020 7:19pm

Eod100 wrote: »

I think Toulouse at home would be very tough for Ulster. Exeter should beat Northamption alright

Yeah it'd be a stretch definitely but I'd love to see them go far in the competition.

Eod100 · 19-01-2020 7:23pm

Squidgy Black wrote: »

Yeah it'd be a stretch definitely but I'd love to see them go far in the competition.

Oh yeah me too. Now that Munster are out will be backing Leinster and Ulster. Just that Toulouse away is a tough ole trip but plenty of rugby to br played between now and then!

lufties · 19-01-2020 7:47pm

Eod100 wrote: »

Oh yeah me too. Now that Munster are out will be backing Leinster and Ulster. Just that Toulouse away is a tough ole trip but plenty of rugby to br played between now and then!

I'm a munster fan, but want to see Exeter win it out. They are a home grown team at a local level. Great for the game to see teams like exeter thrive.
Leinster are a great team with the resources of saracens and more to hand. Leinster are the posh toffs of rugby, let's face it.

19-01-2020 7:51pm

lufties wrote: »

Leinster are the posh toffs of rugby, let's face it.

lufties · 19-01-2020 7:54pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Come on Exeter!!!

19-01-2020 7:58pm

lufties wrote: »

Come on Exeter!!!

Buer · 19-01-2020 8:07pm

lufties wrote: »

I'm a munster fan, but want to see Exeter win it out. They are a home grown team at a local level. Great for the game to see teams like exeter thrive.
Leinster are a great team with the resources of saracens and more to hand. Leinster are the posh toffs of rugby, let's face it.

Ironically, Leinster are the most home grown team left in the tournament by a mile.

Podge_irl · 19-01-2020 8:15pm

Buer wrote: »

Ironically, Leinster are the most home grown team left in the tournament by a mile.

That was true 3 months ago as well...

Eod100 · 19-01-2020 10:59pm

Anyone know if the player issue around Brexit is sorted for this year? Know they did something last year but not sure if it applies this season? Could only find this https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/rugby/european-cup/champions-cup-brexit-proof-eligibility-for-knockout-stages-1.3792609

Podge_irl · 19-01-2020 11:02pm

Eod100 wrote: »

Anyone know if the player issue around Brexit is sorted for this year? Know they did something last year but not sure if it applies this season? Could only find this https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/rugby/european-cup/champions-cup-brexit-proof-eligibility-for-knockout-stages-1.3792609

It would take a one line adjustment to the eligibility rules for the competition which they will do immediately if needs be. It is a non-story.

prawnsambo · 19-01-2020 11:03pm

Eod100 wrote: »

Anyone know if the player issue around Brexit is sorted for this year? Know they did something last year but not sure if it applies this season? Could only find this https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/rugby/european-cup/champions-cup-brexit-proof-eligibility-for-knockout-stages-1.3792609

It will be business as usual up to the end of the transition period. Things may get a bit different then. Visas and the like.

Squidgy Black · 19-01-2020 11:08pm

Came up as a discussion last year, no action was really taken. They won't let it affect the competition, they'll just put in an amendment last second if the mythical Brexit ever actually happens. No point in putting anything in place until then.

Eod100 · 19-01-2020 11:20pm

Podge_irl wrote: »

It would take a one line adjustment to the eligibility rules for the competition which they will do immediately if needs be. It is a non-story.

Ah yeah, was just curious. If Brexit actually happens this month it will be in place by time qfs roll around.

Exclamation Marc · 19-01-2020 11:36pm

Eod100 wrote: »

Ah yeah, was just curious. If Brexit actually happens this month it will be in place by time qfs roll around.

Transition period kicks in this month. Actual leaving effectively takes place way down the line (pre December) so the competition will likely be over before they're gone.

Digifriendly · 19-01-2020 11:50pm

Eod100 wrote: »

So Leinster/Saracens v Clermont/Racing. And Toulouse/Ulster v Exeter/Northampton? Tough draw for Leinster

BT Sport commentator kept saying that if Toulouse got a sixth try (which they didn't) they would be playing the semi final in the south of France. Is that correct or not? If they beat Ulster where will their semi final be played?

prawnsambo · 19-01-2020 11:54pm

Digifriendly wrote: »

BT Sport commentator kept saying that if Toulouse got a sixth try (which they didn't) they would be playing the semi final in the south of France. Is that correct or not? If they beat Ulster where will their semi final be played?

There's nothing set on the semi-finals yet. Not until the QFs have been played.

Podge_irl · 19-01-2020 11:59pm

Digifriendly wrote: »

BT Sport commentator kept saying that if Toulouse got a sixth try (which they didn't) they would be playing the semi final in the south of France. Is that correct or not? If they beat Ulster where will their semi final be played?

They would have been a 2 seed and have a home SF (assuming the win the QF) with another score. Now its to Exeter.

durkadurka · 19-01-2020 11:59pm

Digifriendly wrote: »

BT Sport commentator kept saying that if Toulouse got a sixth try (which they didn't) they would be playing the semi final in the south of France. Is that correct or not? If they beat Ulster where will their semi final be played?

That have qualified as third overall, another five points would have meant they qualified 2nd, which would have meant hypothetical home country advantage for a semi, which Leinster have.

Exeter have that honour. They would likely have a trip to wherever Exeter would have their semi.

PTH2009 · 20-01-2020 2:37am

Racing to win It all

Riskymove · 20-01-2020 10:36am

Eod100 wrote: »

Ah yeah, was just curious. If Brexit actually happens this month it will be in place by time qfs roll around.

This is what the rule says:

3.9 Each club is permitted a maximum of two ‘non-European players’ in each match squad and for the 2019/20 season at least, a player who is a UK citizen will be regarded as a European player.

They use the term "European" in the rule so why would there be an issue?

Or is that while they say "European" they mean "EU citizen"

There is an obvious difference after all

Eod100 · 20-01-2020 10:51am

Riskymove wrote: »

This is what the rule says:

They use the term "European" in the rule so why would there be an issue?

Or is that while they say "European" they mean "EU citizen"

There is an obvious difference after all

In quote is days UK citizens will be considered Euotoean player for 18/19. They tweaked the rules to do that so may have been different . Think it's to do with Kolpak ruling but SA also part of that so may not be necessary for UK ton be in EU to be party to it. But someone with more knowledge than me maybe be able to confirm!

20-01-2020 11:36am

PTH2009 wrote: »

Racing to win It all

I watched Saracens v Racing yesterday, only one of those teams was potential winners and it wasn't Racing. They're massively overrated imo, mostly on the back of being in the same pool as Munster.

Eod100 · 20-01-2020 12:01pm

Uriah Nutty Ignoramus wrote: »

I watched Saracens v Racing yesterday, only one of those teams was potential winners and it wasn't Racing. They're massively overrated imo, mostly on the back of being in the same pool as Munster.

I think their defence and mentality is an issue. Think they and Clermont have been runners up the most without winning comp, 3 and 2 times each. I'd like to see either them or Clermont win at some stage but dont think I see it happening this season but ya never know!

Digifriendly · 20-01-2020 3:11pm

durkadurka wrote: »

That have qualified as third overall, another five points would have meant they qualified 2nd, which would have meant hypothetical home country advantage for a semi, which Leinster have.

Exeter have that honour. They would likely have a trip to wherever Exeter would have their semi.

Thanks as I was confused - for after the Toulouse match had concluded, BT Sport had Toulouse vs Ulster as second QF rather than Exeter vs Northampton.

pickarooney · 21-01-2020 1:24pm

Riskymove wrote: »

This is what the rule says:

They use the term "European" in the rule so why would there be an issue?

Or is that while they say "European" they mean "EU citizen"

There is an obvious difference after all

Who does this rule actually apply to? Montpellier had, I think, 6 South Africans and two Georgians starting against Connacht and two more Georgians and a Samoan on the bench.

Eod100 · 21-01-2020 1:40pm

pickarooney wrote: »

Who does this rule actually apply to? Montpellier had, I think, 6 South Africans and two Georgians starting against Connacht and two more Georgians and a Samoan on the bench.

SA and Samoa are in Kolpak agreement . I'd say Georigia too.

Eod100 · 24-01-2020 2:16pm

Qfs out https://twitter.com/CianTracey1/status/1220693525765009409?s=19

nc6000 · 24-01-2020 2:28pm

Two games on at the same time. Great move.

scott1974 · 24-01-2020 2:42pm

nc6000 wrote: »

Two games on at the same time. Great move.

Bring back SKY!!

Cookiemunster · 24-01-2020 4:18pm

scott1974 wrote: »

Bring back SKY!!

It's not just about BT. BeIN in France have a say in this too.

Eod100 · 24-01-2020 4:21pm

Cookiemunster wrote: »

It's not just about BT. BeIN in France have a say in this too.

Dont games with French teams usually happen the Sunday? Clermont already then so Ulster fans have to travel for a game on Sunday

kooga · 24-01-2020 4:23pm

bummer that the leinster game is not the FTA option on virgin media or channel 4

scott1974 · 24-01-2020 4:37pm

kooga wrote: »

bummer that the leinster game is not the FTA option on virgin media or channel 4

Is there a FTA quarter final?

kooga · 24-01-2020 4:38pm

scott1974 wrote: »

Is there a FTA quarter final?

Toulouse v Ulster on the sunday

24-01-2020 4:38pm

scott1974 wrote: »

Is there a FTA quarter final?

It's listed above there. Toulouse v Ulster is on C4 and Virgin.

icdg · 24-01-2020 4:41pm

Very surprised at the simultaneous kickoff times for the QF, don’t think that’s happened in the knockout stages before.

Podge_irl · 24-01-2020 4:44pm

My ghast is well and truly flabbered.

Amazed both French semis aren't on the Sunday. Two games at the same time is highly unusual.

scott1974 · 24-01-2020 5:18pm

Uriah Nutty Ignoramus wrote: »

It's listed above there. Toulouse v Ulster is on C4 and Virgin.

Twitter is blocked for me in work.:mad:

Champions Cup 2019/20 Round 6 - All to play for

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