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02-02-2021, 14:21   #1
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Buying from the UK

I've just been hit with a €25 fee for a package that only cost £29, anyone else experience same? Would using PM or addresspal work still as a UK address? or are we still in for customs hold ups and charges?

I would much rather of course, buy within Ireland, but the prices are already shocking on some sites, and I fear this might worsen because of the clamp down on purchasing from the UK.
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02-02-2021, 14:50   #2
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AP minimum charge is €10 (€6.50 + €3.50 handling fee).

With AP, you will end up paying UK VAT & Duties first and then charge Irish/EU on top of that amount.

See Online Buying & Auctions & Couriers sub forum.

How Brexit affects online buying Update 20th January

Rules out getting Nic affordably from UK.


Who did the order ship with that you where overcharge VAT etc. Shipping is include in the calculations for VAT

Edit: - £29 ~~ €32.83 * 21% Vat = €6.89 so surplus would be courier fees and handling charges?

Edit 2: - Who ever is the courier they may have overvalued the item for customs.

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AP minimum charge is €10 (€6.50 + €3.50 handling fee).

With AP, you will end up paying UK VAT & Duties first and then charge Irish/EU on top of that amount.

See Online Buying & Auctions & Couriers sub forum.

How Brexit affects online buying Update 20th January

Rules out getting Nic affordably from UK.


Who did the order ship with that you where overcharge VAT etc. Shipping is include in the calculations for VAT

Edit: - £29 ~~ €32.83 * 21% Vat = €6.89 so surplus would be courier fees and handling charges?

Edit 2: - Who ever is the courier they may have overvalued the item for customs.

Looking into it further looks like the extra charges were from UPS, unfortunately the likes of Darkstar [this order] use them over this side, maybe it's still worth it for larger orders - this order was made a little less painful as I got a free shortfill and if I calculated what the rest would cost ordering in ireland it's still possibly cheaper but something to be wary of.
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Vat calculation would be on all items + shipping.

So if you got complimentary short-fill, it's cost would also be included.

UPS have expensive handling fees for customs.

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Just got hit with a €25 charge for a parcel that originally cost just €40, only warning I got was the driver rang me from the next estate over - luckily I had the cash on me, normally wouldn't as I just use my card for everything these days. Safe to say I won't be ordering from anywhere that uses UPS to deliver in future.
Have you revalued your order in the above cross thread post?
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Vat calculation would be on all items + shipping.

So if you got complimentary short-fill, it's cost would also be included.

UPS have expensive handling fees for customs.



Have you revalued your order in the above cross thread post?
No, it was in Sterling, I'm just having a rough guess, didn't actually check what the exchange is atm, it was £29 plus delivery which I rounded up to €40 total in my head. I hadn't included that in my post here is all, wasn't sure if they factored in p+p but seems it is inc. Just checked the invoice, the extra shortfill isn't on the list of purchase - that would have bumped it another £10

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£29 + £5 + £7.50 = £41.50 ~~~ €47.08 * 21% Vat = €9.88
UPS Customs handling fee approx €15
Total: - approx €25

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After 31st December 2020 you may be charged import fees on products you order from us that are being delivered outside of the United Kingdom. This is a result of Brexit. We have not increased our shipping but these are import fees we cannot control, that will be charged by the courier on delivery of your products.
www(.)darkstar(.)co(.)uk/delivery
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£29 + £5 + £7.50 = £41.50 ~~~ €47.08 * 21% Vat = €9.88
UPS Customs handling fee approx €15
Total: - approx €25



www(.)darkstar(.)co(.)uk/delivery

Strange I seen none of this, and no £7.50 charge when placing the order. This is the first time I've been hit so was a bit of a bummer - only knew this morn when the courier rang to tell me he was on the way and would need payment, he was decent about it, actually gave out stink on how UPS are dealing with it as nobody he's delivering to seems to know anything about the charges until he calls. I had to give him the whole 25 btw, DS themselves never added any of the charges their end.

I'll have to do some actual calculating, see how much that lot would have cost me inc delivery from an Irish site. I think DS will still be very competitive but hmmm, was I ordering that amount because it was such good value to begin with? €25 on top is quite a chunk. Were it not for that 120ml shortfill [very tasty btw, strawberry watermelon candy] thrown in [it was a special for anyone who ordered on the day, not just for me] I'd be a little more peeved
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I just added the estimated cost of your complimentary short-fill to get that £7.50.

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First of all, the carrier, eg UPS or DHL, will likely impose a handling charge for processing goods through customs. At UPS, the charge is €14.50 regardless of the value of the package. So, even if you order a good for $20 (€14.8), you will still have to pay this. This is unrelated to charges imposed by the Revenue.
https://www.irishtimes.com/business/...line-1.1661947
^^^ Old article but is where I go UPS fees from. (Tue, Jan 21, 2014, 01:11)
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I just added the estimated cost of your complimentary short-fill to get that £7.50.



https://www.irishtimes.com/business/...line-1.1661947
^^^ Old article but is where I go UPS fees from. (Tue, Jan 21, 2014, 01:11)
Hmm, if it's fixed, then larger orders might still be worth, at least I'll know in future about the extra fees - cheers for all the info
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I ordered 1ltr 72mg nic plus 5ltr vg from nicotine hub. Courier was dpd. Just looked at tracking and it says it is being returned to the vendor. Can anyone tell me why this might be?
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^^^ Maybe a prohibited item for the Courier (DPD).

https://shipping.dpd.ie/prohibited-items

* Liquids
* Tobacco And Tobacco Products


Edit: - Use to order nicotine to here by using DPD PW but royal mail delivered to NI first.

Along with PM, that service is no longer available.

Address Pal also prohibits liquids,so rules out using them as well.

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We'll have to organise a trip over to England , like a booze cruise except for 1lt bottles of eliquid .
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We'll have to organise a trip over to England , like a booze cruise except for 1lt bottles of eliquid .
You maybe able to walk into a store and buy PG/VG over the counter.
But getting 72mg nicotine would be another matter, because technically they only sell that to business. (loophole in getting deliveries).

If you relative/friends in UK, you could possibly get it delivered to them and collect.

The next hurdle would be bringing it through customs here?
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I've been getting my nic from UK, I only ever order 100ml 72mg and have had no issues to date, but I fear that's now out the window too. They were sending the small plastic bottle in a jiffy bag via An Post, so maybe that's how they got through because it just looks like a harmless little package but not sure that'll pass now

Is our only option now nic shots? :/ PITA
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We'll have to organise a trip over to England , like a booze cruise except for 1lt bottles of eliquid .
Definitely, I'm finished all mine and buying eliquid in 10ml bottles. First time in 8 years that I'm buying ready-made juice. It's not quite as cost effective and I haven't found a juice I like yet.

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