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Is This An Example Of Racism Or Not?

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  • #52
    cruizer101
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,205 ✭✭✭cruizer101


    I thought of clouds and then a 99 ice-cream with a flake, the perfect coming together of white and brown


  • #53
    munchkin_utd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,907 ✭✭✭munchkin_utd


    vetinari wrote: »
    <snip>
    Being white and living in Boston, it's definitely a benefit, you're the same skin color as the "majority" who also have most of the money and power.
    It's always interesting to see videos that offer a different perspective.
    indeed,
    I was in Boston for my J1 summer, and seeing I was escaping the protestant marches in Northern Ireland, I'd often express how happy I was at getting away from a place scourged by rioting black b-tards

    definitely something which got lost in translation .


  • #54
    ScumLord
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    rab!dmonkey wrote: »
    Extraordinary claim. Where can I read more about this?
    Well there's emperor Mansa Musa who was so rich he destabilized the economy of mecca when he made a pilgrimage there he was so rich.

    There's a bit of a problem with finding archeology in south africa because the white people are stamping out any finds because it could be used to counter their claim that south Africa was empty when they got there.


  • #55
    LeeLooLee
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 422 ✭✭LeeLooLee


    Eugene Norman wrote: »
    The problem I have with American identity politics is that it uses "white" rather than euro-American. If it was the latter we probably wouldn't care over here.

    But it's odd to have people from the world's dominant empire tell the Albanians how privileged they are.

    Exactly. These people are just showing their ignorance. How is a black person in NYC worse off than a white person living in total poverty in rural Romania or Albania?


  • #56
    RDM_83 again
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,116 ✭✭✭RDM_83 again


    ScumLord wrote: »
    There's a bit of a problem with finding archeology in south africa because the white people are stamping out any finds because it could be used to counter their claim that south Africa was empty when they got there.

    Not excusing SA apartheid etc but there is the question about where do you draw the line? didn't the Bantu migrations push out the "native" bushmen (who are genetically and culturally very different) and the Zulu empire expand its territories and push out other tribes at the same time as European colonialism
    Its definitely a thing where if "natives" or "native culture" is mentioned for a European country people will start talking about Normans, Saxons Romans (or whatever the local equivalent is) but will presume that if the locals are non white the population is native since time immemorial.

    Racism and privilege are definitely useful concepts, currently though they seem to be most useful for those that want to gloss over their own class, economic and educational backgrounds.
    I'm guessing most if the black academics and media types have as much in common with the guy from the projects getting beat by cops as I have with an Irish traveller (when I am outside Ireland but in an area where there is travellers eg judged by those that are ignorant)


  • #57
    El_Duderino 09
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,552 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    darkpagandeath wrote:
    True, But I know of no country that I can play the race card in either.

    I can't help feeling you didn't think very hard about it. Clarkson probably feels that the UK is one country where you could 'play the race card'. The ' race card' cost him £100k today.

    BTW 'race card' is a fairly dismissive term for, what can be, a serious issue in people's lives. It sounds scheming and devious. Sounds like you should feel sorry for someone who has the 'X card' played on them.


  • #58
    rab!dmonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 629 ✭✭✭rab!dmonkey


    ScumLord wrote: »
    Well there's emperor Mansa Musa who was so rich he destabilized the economy of mecca when he made a pilgrimage there he was so rich.

    There's a bit of a problem with finding archeology in south africa because the white people are stamping out any finds because it could be used to counter their claim that south Africa was empty when they got there.
    The Mali Empire existed up until the seventeenth century. Archaeology would have had little to do with proving its existence. Is there anywhere I can read specifically about white people obscuring evidence of previous civilisations in Africa?


  • #59
    ScumLord
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    RDM_83 again wrote: »
    Not excusing SA apartheid etc but there is the question about where do you draw the line? didn't the Bantu migrations push out the "native" bushmen (who are genetically and culturally very different) and the Zulu empire expand its territories and push out other tribes at the same time as European colonialism
    Its definitely a thing where if "natives" or "native culture" is mentioned for a European country people will start talking about Normans, Saxons Romans (or whatever the local equivalent is) but will presume that if the locals are non white the population is native since time immemorial.
    I think there's no doubt black Africans were fighting each other and wiping out cultures we never knew about for time immemorial, and I'm vaguely remembering a documentary on ancient African cultures/empires.

    But the story was about an archeological dig where they bassically tore away the archaeology they found that was clearly linked to black Africa in the assumption they'd find greek archaeology at the bottom of it, as black people wouldn't be able to just build these empires off their own bat and there must be a link to European cultures (and the treasure to go along with it).

    I think the documentary may have had something to do with the early treasure hunting days of archaeology and the amount of damage and loss that occurred during that time.

    There were certainly plenty of civilizations in the north of the country during medieval times that were at least as advanced as anything in the middle east and Europe.


  • #60
    Eugene Norman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,191 ✭✭✭Eugene Norman


    El_Duderino 09 wrote: »
    I can't help feeling you didn't think very hard about it. Clarkson probably feels that the UK is one country where you could 'play the race card'. The ' race card' cost him £100k today.

    BTW 'race card' is a fairly dismissive term for, what can be, a serious issue in people's lives. It sounds scheming and devious. Sounds like you should feel sorry for someone who has the 'X card' played on them.

    Was he not penalised for hitting someone? Was the payout increased because of the ethnic slurs?

    Btw nobody should be mocked at work, for being Irish, black, English, red headed, or Coldplay fans.


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  • #61
    Eugene Norman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,191 ✭✭✭Eugene Norman


    LeeLooLee wrote: »
    Exactly. These people are just showing their ignorance. How is a black person in NYC worse off than a white person living in total poverty in rural Romania or Albania?

    American supremacy. American privilege. That's what the Americans don't talk about.


  • #62
    El_Duderino 09
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,552 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    Eugene Norman wrote:
    Was he not penalised for hitting someone? Was the payout increased because of the ethnic slurs?

    The case was for racial discrimination and personal injury. The exact sum isn't known but it's in excess of 100k.


  • #63
    colossus-x
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    When I think 'white' I think of a white sliced loaf of bread.


  • #64
    Ice Maiden
    Closed Accounts Posts: 600 ✭✭✭Ice Maiden


    Racism is discrimination or hatred of someone based on skin colour. Therefore anyone of any colour can be racist. Sure, there are different histories and other factors, but it's still pretty straightforward as to what racism, on the (whatever coloured) face of it, is. It really is black and white, in my opinion.

    Saying "people of colour cannot be racist" is kinda racial discrimination in and of itself in a way. I doubt many people genuinely think "people of colour" cannot be racist though.

    With regard to the economic opportunities angle again, e.g. a middle-class black/white person with plenty of opportunities is not comparable to a black/white person who grew up in the ghetto, just because they have skin colour (and history going back 50 years) in common.


  • #65
    cowboyBuilder
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    Wow chips on their shoulders or what ??

    Christ, who teaches this crap to kids ?


  • #66
    El_Duderino 09
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,552 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    cowboyBuilder wrote:
    Christ, who teaches this crap to kids ?

    Life experience. I think that was the point of the video.

    It didn't happen to me, doesn't mean it doesn't happen to anyone.


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