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General Emulation Discussion

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,068 ✭✭✭✭Tom Mann Centuria


    This is a good written guide. There's a Rom collection called Tiny Best Set on archive. org that has the artwork all ready to go for the rg35 too, and it's a lot better than the collection that comes with the device, I'd advise getting a better quality microSD card as well, as the one that comes with it is supposedly very flaky.


    Tl;dr probably an hour or two of messing will make it a better experience.

    Oh well, give me an easy life and a peaceful death.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,282 ✭✭✭gucci


    Thanks for that link. Hopefully il be playing it by the weekend.....ahem I mean hopefully I'm testing it and making sure its correct for my son 😄😄



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,630 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    The new Powkiddy RGB30 looks pretty nice, with an interesting 1:1 screen, perfect for handheld shenanigans


    https://a.aliexpress.com/_mNqtb0U



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,755 ✭✭✭Inviere


    For men and women too, according to the product page.

    That reminds me of the old non politically correct blurb we used to have for the Nomad around these parts. What could be use now to be more socially acceptable? People love Nomadz?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,253 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    I quite like the design of that - as with all these cheaper handhelds, it'll be made or broken based on how good those controls are. I even found the PSP hard to use as an emulation machine due to the D pad being awful.

    😁

    I don't know about you guys but I was always referencing female dogs with that line.



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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,630 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    Oh,

    It was beaches, they love da nomadz

    Which is interesting because the hospital I work in, St Itas in Portrane, is right next to a couple of beaches and not one of them ever expressed affection or anything approaching arousal in the presence of my Sega Nomad, not even my Turbo Express had an effect.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,282 ✭✭✭gucci


    This has been delivered and I am very impressed (have only had a quick dabble) feels re-assuringly solid, and the screen resolution is great.

    Had a little game of crash bandicoot and bubble bobble that was preloaded on it. Going to give the tidy up advised above a go, and should be all set for Xmas morning.

    Thank you for the advise, this seems to be exactly what i was after.


    Im sure il be back next christmas for an upgrade/dads or mums gift 😁



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,755 ✭✭✭Inviere


    Don't ask about upgrades, it's a very slippery slope....next thing you know you'll have a DE10 on the way....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,718 ✭✭✭romperstomper


    I always liked the PC engine games, has anyone heard of this new system?


    https://www.wired.com/review/analogue-duo/



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 51,831 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 327 ✭✭tomcosgrave


    Just got the Anbernic RG35xx + which was released in November. It's an upgrade to the RG35xx and has WiFi, Bluetooth and an upgraded chipset. Still plays up to to PS1 so really best for that console and previous. The firmware is not there yet, but the GarlicOS which is meant to be brilliant on the RG35Xxx is being redeveloped to V.2 so I'd say when that gets done it will become a brilliant machine. It's a shame Anbernic don't spend more time on firmware before releasing their devices, they really let themselves down in that regard. Both these devices have a mini-HDMI out port so it is a great option for using as a console as well as going mobile with it. Overall great value for money if you are prepared to do the leg work with the firmware and replace the cheapy SD card that comes with it. I'd say a goodly number of the ROMS are not the best either, so I have the previously mentioned Best Set Go collection ready to deploy but will hold until GarlicOS 2.0 comes out.

    My 15 year old self and his friends from 30 years ago would be absolutely beside themselves if they could see the devices playing the games we played back then now. Truly, we are living in the future!



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,630 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    The RGB30 is a cracking little device, though the OS is a tad flaky at times, has a hard time with anything other than a basic phone charger and the screen plastic attracts greasy fingerprints like it was starting a collection.

    Handheld emulation is wonderful, GB, GBC and A, even DS and then the likes of PSP, Lynx and so on.

    Sure, it has DC, N64 and PS1 but I don't want it for that stuff at all.

    The 8bit and 16bit home consoles look good too.

    But the handheld stuff, on the 1:1 screen, just fantastic



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,282 ✭✭✭gucci


    Unfortunately our one is going back to santas workshop.

    Played and loved for 3 days solid by young lad, day 4 didn't switch on (back light lit up but fails to boot) tried the tips online about replacing cards and etc but no joy.

    Very disappointing, but will chance another one as it was such a big hit with my son. Loves bomberman and Mario.

    I know he didn't drop it or anything as he literally didn't leave it out of his hands



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,068 ✭✭✭✭Tom Mann Centuria


    Do you want me to send you mine as a loaner until you get the new one? I'm more than happy to, while you wait for Santa and his lazy Elves to pull their fingers out (and you wait for delivery from AliExpress or wherever) Only downside with mine is I made a balls of sticking the screen protector on, and I don't have the original box anymore but its all good otherwise.

    Hopefully An Post would have it to you in a day or two.

    Post edited by Tom Mann Centuria on

    Oh well, give me an easy life and a peaceful death.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,718 ✭✭✭romperstomper


    Anyone using a steam deck for emulation? Just wondering if the form factor suits any particular genre/generation. I assume it has the horses to do ps1/dreamcast without sweat?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,242 ✭✭✭MrVestek


    My Steam Deck easily handles PS2 emulation let alone PS1 / Dreamcast. Definitely recommend checking out Emu Deck if you end up going down this route as it'll auto configure all the emulators for you and make entries in the Steam library on your behalf.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,718 ✭✭✭romperstomper


    Really? I've been trying everything to get gran Turismo 4 (ps2) working. Would you happen to know if this title works?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,897 ✭✭✭megaten


    I thought this was fixed but GT4 need something call SMT threading disabled which can be doen via the decky powertools plugin. think it still sturggles with certain tracks but most of the game should work.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,755 ✭✭✭Inviere


    Other people do what Nintendon't....

    Absolutely bananas that Nintendo never bothered to do this.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,253 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    'lets release a 3D console that supports legacy consoles but lets not port over the one legacy console that actually has 3D games and that most people are locked out from playing'

    I can only imagine there must have been some legal issue, i mean it was an absolute no brainer. Probably the least accessible Nintendo library until now.

    And sure you can't even say it never occurred to them as an idea, Ciderman sent them a letter! :D



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,164 ✭✭✭Quigs Snr


    I will download this only if someone confirms that it gives you brain damage like the original did. I want that authentic experience.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,253 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Between that and the Nintendo scope supposedly making you go cross-eyed I'm not sure how any of us made it out of childhood 😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,164 ✭✭✭Quigs Snr


    The release of the emulator coincides with me sending my VB to inviere for an attempted repair. Thread incoming in the coming weeks I expect. Experimental permanent-repair of the (presumed to be the problem) dodgy ribbon cables.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,058 ✭✭✭Doge


    There's an emulator for the meta quest headsets that can run the VB games and you can choose the colour from red to others. Doesn't give you brain damage though, and the 3d effect works very well!



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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 51,831 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    If it comes to a verdict Nintendo will lose this case. There's legal precedence already set that emulation is legal. They are going to do the bleed dry and settle tactic.

    Honestly I see this could well be an own goal for Nintendo, I could see Yuzu crowd fund their defense.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,755 ✭✭✭Inviere


    Normally I'd agree, but with the way US courts have gone over the years, I wouldn't at all he surprised to see Nintendo drop enough coin in order to change established precedent. Yes it's a gamble, but nowadays, I've far less faith in 'what's right' to triumph over money and connections.

    I'm not saying Yuzu are innocent here, I don't know enough about the software to have a definite stance. I'll say two things though.

    1) Yuzu have been absolutely coining it for years now, 5 figures a month (€40k around the launch of TotK.) It was also an emulator for a current Gen machine, and as such, was ALWAYS bound to draw fire. Nintendo quite rightly takes issue with people making money from them. Ethically it's **** that that's happened to the Switch yes, but similarly, Yuzu doesn't come with the decryption files needed to actually use it for piracy etc. It's closed source afaik, so I don't know if there's more going on there, but if it's been cleanly developed and has nothing to hide, I really have no issue with that as a concept. At that point it's up to manufacturers to stay ahead of homebrew developers. If it's using actual Nintendo files etc, that's obviously different.

    2) The wording from what I've seen is eye rollingly generalized....typical 'Emulation is Bad' crap you hear from Nintendo at times. No doubt if this develops, they're going to have to really tighten down on wording and syntax. You've gold standard stuff like MAME out there, and even Nintendo's own commerical emulator products....they're not ALL bad.

    Nintendo do tend to piss me off with their approach to things like this, but I've learned not to automatically jump on them as the villian (they've been kindly quiet on a lot of things at times.) But if this is another baby step towards taking on Emulation as a concept, then I'd be firmly, firmly, against that. We owe emulators and their authors enourmous praise for essentially becoming preservationists due to the lazy mishandling of decades of content by IP owners over the years.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 51,831 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer




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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 51,831 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    Yeah maybe limit to the bad gems engine games and the 32x doom port.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,553 ✭✭✭✭Skerries


    Play DOS and Windows games in browser



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,755 ✭✭✭Inviere


    Pretty exciting developments around dynamic recompilation techniques for N64 games here. Granted individual games will require individual tweaks etc, but I can imagine a library of such being formed and the frontend pulling down the fixes automatically in the future. Amazing results...

    Post edited by Inviere on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,885 ✭✭✭Steve X2


    Texture pack support as well. Should lead to some pretty nice looking conversions.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 51,831 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    Got an anbernic rg35xx for the nephew so he can try some retro games. He hasn't managed to grasp modern games yet so maybe this will help and he is obsessed with the old Mario games despite not having played them.

    Decent little device although the aspect ratio being stretched is annoying. It says it supports PS1 emulation but that's a big stretch. The sound is lags way behind and it feels horrible to control. It's not worth bothering with but I think it would be beyond my nephew.

    Anyway I cleaned up the roms and added some of my own and updated a favourites list for him. Got rid of most of the junk on there (some amount of shite was released on the GBA) and curated the game lists. Also got rid of the more violent games like splatter house, narc and MK.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,068 ✭✭✭✭Tom Mann Centuria


    Are you using GarlicOS? Most people find it better than stock, including me, also the SD card and the ROM images that comes with it are junk.

    I've found PS1 performance pretty good on virtually all games to be honest, I can't remember what setting you need to adjust but a couple of tweaks and PS1 is decent (it's not frameskip it's something else), there are threads on Reddit about it, because that's where I initially found it.

    You could try overclocking it too to see if it improved performance but I've never needed to myself. (Pressing select on home screen on GarlicOS cycles through the underclock and overclocks two - - up to two + +.

    You can change the aspect ratio, device by device in the Retroarch menu, not perfect but doesn't stretch to fill the screen, and you can add the overlays etc then. The Gameboy ones are decent.

    Oh well, give me an easy life and a peaceful death.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,790 ✭✭✭Jack burton


    Converting a 1up into a raspberry pi arcade for a friend.

    Just wondering what's the best solution? Retropi or is there anything else?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 734 ✭✭✭80s Synth Pop


    Lot of sd card images on arcadepunks but the pi has 7 frames of input lag so it's not great.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,253 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Take some photos as you go! Would love to see how that all works.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,790 ✭✭✭Jack burton


    Using a pi4, do they all have input lag no matter what?

    It's actually pretty basic. Just a LCD controller board and then some cheap Amazon parts is all



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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 51,831 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    Gave the rg35xx to the nephew. He had trouble with the OS. Had to tell him there's no touch screen 🤣 he eventually got it but then had trouble with the buttons in the games. Had to teach him how to use the buttons and how start was how you started most games. Still had a lot of trouble playing the likes of Mario, he just isn't there yet with games. He did settle on the sonic games, much simpler due to only using one button. Hopefully it teaches him to get better.

    Anyway he was totally engrossed and wouldn't talk unless he wanted me to show him something.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,755 ✭✭✭Inviere


    Seemingly not an issue with a Pi4, as it can handle runahead. You may need to configure it per game though, and not all cores support it so it depends...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,790 ✭✭✭Jack burton


    Yeah I was looking more at Retropi there and tbh I'm not up on emu stuff a whole lot but the recommended mame for pi4 anyway



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,058 ✭✭✭Doge


    Have to give this game a go again overlooked in an emulator.

    I rented it back in the day and got to the final mission despite the slow frame rate.

    It was the first combat or flight SIM I ever played and seemed impressive for the time. Probably the best combat sim on the mega drive.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,253 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    That and LHX Attack Chopper are crying out for someone to do an optimisation on them like that Road Rash improvement version.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,790 ✭✭✭Jack burton


    Have that 1up arcade converted now and having serious problems getting the roms over.

    I have my pc working off a deco for wifi and for some reason I cant access the pi to transfer files on the windows network.

    Trying the transfer over USB isnt working at all. Tried multiple sticks with reformatting and everytime I insert the USB to the pi and then back into my pc its done nothing. Tried with mame and mega drive roms and its picking up nothing.

    Looked up a few other people with the same problem and the answers were usually "just use wifi its easier"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,277 ✭✭✭KeRbDoG


    This made me look again what the improvement version was, ended up with Road Rash 1-to-3 playing on MiSTer with CD music in the MegaCD core (but low/regular fps). Didn't realise that the normal roms would have a FPS improvement in the old Mega Drive core, which should have been obvious when you use the 'CPU Turbo' setting.

    RR3 is still a let down when you had the 3DO version looking amazing at the same time

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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,630 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    Road Rash 3 is a let down, but only until you see the trainwreck of Road Rash CD, on the Mega CD, and then it isn't so bad.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,058 ✭✭✭Doge


    Road rash 3 was the first one I played and I still prefer it to road rash on the playstation / pc / 3do. I'm like a broken record saying it at this stage but the latter is missing the mechanic where the faster opponents match your speed and you get into some epic fights and combat on the mega drive games.

    That is totally missing from the latter and ruins the gameplay for me as you just speed past the leading racers most of the time.

    Still had one of the best game intros though with Soundgarden's Rusty Cage!



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,630 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    I bought the 3DO on release and nothing could convince that, at that time, there were better games to play on any format ahead of Road Rash, Need for Speed, Return Fire and Star Control 2.

    To some extent those remain the seminal titles of their franchises, if not of gaming in general.

    I put unhealthy amounts of time into them, never wasted a minute!



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