The Tipperary GAA (Club and Intercounty) Thread

14-07-2019 3:32pm

cork "defence" making james barry look ok today

Mokuba · 14-07-2019 4:43pm

Real Barry didn't take long to come out. Rubbish.

Crap performance in general. Not the intensity I would have hoped for after the Limerick trouncing.

Ompala · 14-07-2019 4:46pm

Brutal so far. Been far too greedy going for goals and overplaying the ball.

Donadea Leo · 14-07-2019 7:47pm

Ompala wrote: »

Brutal so far. Been far too greedy going for goals and overplaying the ball.

I think that was a worrying performance not so much that Laois stuck with them, they gave it everything and were hungrier and more enthusiastic in general.
That one of the things that worries me, we had no hunger or desire today, we didn't have it in the munster final either and I know maybe they were playing within themselves and expecting to win but I saw nobody breaking themselves trying to get on the ball, Callinan has turned into our hardest working player, which is definitely a strange phenomenon. I m struggling to see anyone else looking for ball. They 're all hanging around looking for it handy.
The other thing that worries me is a lack of any game plan, James Barry hurled more ball than anyone else today, he was consistently free and left deliver countless balls badly without any change up, if they were leaving the full back free to deliver the ball, surely we could have put Brendan Maher back in there to deliver quality ball, and brought on another wing back. Some of the forwards need a wake up call, or did Bonner Maher' s ferocity really make up for their lack of fight. Unless we find a bit of fight and hunger, wexford will have no problems with us. I m hoping we 're just not showing our hand yet but Liam sheedy s reactions on the side line Don t seem to indicate that.

robbiezero · 14-07-2019 10:17pm

Donadea Leo wrote: »

I think that was a worrying performance not so much that Laois stuck with them, they gave it everything and were hungrier and more enthusiastic in general.
That one of the things that worries me, we had no hunger or desire today, we didn't have it in the munster final either and I know maybe they were playing within themselves and expecting to win but I saw nobody breaking themselves trying to get on the ball, Callinan has turned into our hardest working player, which is definitely a strange phenomenon. I m struggling to see anyone else looking for ball. They 're all hanging around looking for it handy.
The other thing that worries me is a lack of any game plan, James Barry hurled more ball than anyone else today, he was consistently free and left deliver countless balls badly without any change up, if they were leaving the full back free to deliver the ball, surely we could have put Brendan Maher back in there to deliver quality ball, and brought on another wing back. Some of the forwards need a wake up call, or did Bonner Maher' s ferocity really make up for their lack of fight. Unless we find a bit of fight and hunger, wexford will have no problems with us. I m hoping we 're just not showing our hand yet but Liam sheedy s reactions on the side line Don t seem to indicate that.

I think the showing the hand thing is clinging on to false hope. Very disappointing performance when expecting somewhat of a backlash today. I think Laois had their homework done and had decided that James Barry could have the ball as he is our weakest defender, so had Brendan gone in there, they would have marked him.
Forwards form a big worry. Bubbles and John McGrath have hardly touched the ball 10 times in the last 4 games. Seem completely unable to get into space at all. Back to square one for a partner for Noel In midfield, O'Meara touch very poor today.
I really can't believe we are strong favourites versus Wexford. I'm struggling to see where the big advantage we supposedly have is.

kilkennyboy · 14-07-2019 10:25pm

As a Kilkenny supporter happy enough with today.but it's not a surprise
The two province's have a very contracting styles. Munster big scoring threats but a real lack of defending and hard work.cork couldn't live with the high work rate of the Kilkenny middle 3rd.and ye boys are going to get that 2 fold against wexford. Let me tell ye they are a horrible team to play against. With pace in the forwards.

digzy · 14-07-2019 10:41pm

kilkennyboy wrote: »

As a Kilkenny supporter happy enough with today.but it's not a surprise
The two province's have a very contracting styles. Munster big scoring threats but a real lack of defending and hard work.cork couldn't live with the high work rate of the Kilkenny middle 3rd.and ye boys are going to get that 2 fold against wexford. Let me tell ye they are a horrible team to play against. With pace in the forwards.

Ya won’t know who to shout for !!!

Tipp 77 · 15-07-2019 7:10am

Let us know your opinion on the difference between the two contrasting styles and difference between the level of defending in the provinces after you play Limerick.

kilkennyboy wrote: »

As a Kilkenny supporter happy enough with today.but it's not a surprise
The two province's have a very contracting styles. Munster big scoring threats but a real lack of defending and hard work.cork couldn't live with the high work rate of the Kilkenny middle 3rd.and ye boys are going to get that 2 fold against wexford. Let me tell ye they are a horrible team to play against. With pace in the forwards.

kilkennyboy · 15-07-2019 8:12am

Tipp 77 wrote: »

Let us know your opinion on the difference between the two contrasting styles and difference between the level of defending in the provinces after you play Limerick.

I don't have to wait to play them .big physical team who can hurl

citykat · 15-07-2019 8:25am

digzy wrote: »

Ya won’t know who to shout for !!!

I’ll be shouting for Tipp.

15-07-2019 10:16am

kilkennyboy wrote: »

I don't have to wait to play them .big physical team who can hurl that's why they rolled over ye like ye were a minor team.

tipp77 ,you sure asked for that !

Joe_ Public · 15-07-2019 5:49pm

For me our biggest problem is rather easy to diagnose: the loss of Bonner. Without him there's no target man up front, nobody to take or bat down ball and there's a ripple effect, going back through midfield to half back to full back line. Mightn't be the only factor, but it's the most telling one. Impossible to know whether bonner would have kept his form going from the round robin, but we'd be a damn sight more fluent and confident with him there, that's an absolute certainty.

Thing is: what can management do to counter that loss, given that nothing has worked so far. Bubbles is a man for secondary, not primary, ball. Dan isn't yet the player he was in 16 or 17. Niall is a capable ball winner, but his momentum has consistently been checked, has never had a run of games that would stand to him. And it's too much to be asking the likes of Browne, Kehoe, Cahill etc to fulfill that role at this stage of their careers.

Teams just have to strangle the life out of us in that middle/half forward section and our whole enterprise creaks. And a physical Wexford are more than capable of achieving that.

Dont honestly know what they do. Thought about Seamie playing deeper, but we need his goal threat close to goal. There's not really an obvious game changer on the bench and don't see the likes of Breen or Jake (for all his ability) making the difference this year. Ultimately, i imagine he stays faithful to the same unit and works on intensity somehow, could be last chance for an all ireland medal for a few of these guys, if they're going to die then let it be with their boots on kind of thing.

Mantis Toboggan · 15-07-2019 9:00pm

What would we think of:

Hogan

O'brien
Barrett
Flynn

Kennedy
Paudie
Ronan

Brendan
Breen
Noel

O'Meara
John McGrath
Dan

Seamie
Forde

Joe_ Public · 15-07-2019 9:44pm

I dont know will Rory O'Connor start full forward but i certainly see the sense in detailing Barrett on him if he does, or wherever he plays. I'd swap Forde for John McGrath in that line up, i think what John Mac needs is well directed ball into the corners he can chase or run onto, not to be out horsing for ball around the middle third.

farmerval · 15-07-2019 10:39pm

Joe_ Public wrote: »

For me our biggest problem is rather easy to diagnose: the loss of Bonner. Without him there's no target man up front, nobody to take or bat down ball and there's a ripple effect, going back through midfield to half back to full back line. Mightn't be the only factor, but it's the most telling one. Impossible to know whether bonner would have kept his form going from the round robin, but we'd be a damn sight more fluent and confident with him there, that's an absolute certainty.

Definitely we look unbalanced between primary and secondary ball winners, but we don't have any replacement primary ball winners to come in. I think what we could look to do more especially against Wexford would be to get the half backs to drive forward more with the ball. Against Cork in Cork Paidi, Sean O Brien, Brendan drove forward a lot with the ball, crossing the halfway line they were popping beautiful ball into our forwards. I think James Barry's weakness at full back has seen Paidi being held deeper. We have players like Brendan, Alan Flynn who can drive forward with the ball.
As the year has progressed we have looked a little leggy, and have been sending a lot more long 50-50 balls than we were against Cork and Waterford.

Donadea Leo · 16-07-2019 1:24pm

farmerval wrote: »

Joe_ Public wrote: »

For me our biggest problem is rather easy to diagnose: the loss of Bonner. Without him there's no target man up front, nobody to take or bat down ball and there's a ripple effect, going back through midfield to half back to full back line. Mightn't be the only factor, but it's the most telling one. Impossible to know whether bonner would have kept his form going from the round robin, but we'd be a damn sight more fluent and confident with him there, that's an absolute certainty.

Definitely we look unbalanced between primary and secondary ball winners, but we don't have any replacement primary ball winners to come in. I think what we could look to do more especially against Wexford would be to get the half backs to drive forward more with the ball. Against Cork in Cork Paidi, Sean O Brien, Brendan drove forward a lot with the ball, crossing the halfway line they were popping beautiful ball into our forwards. I think James Barry's weakness at full back has seen Paidi being held deeper. We have players like Brendan, Alan Flynn who can drive forward with the ball.
As the year has progressed we have looked a little leggy, and have been sending a lot more long 50-50 balls than we were against Cork and Waterford.

Good points, I wonder is there an argument for rotating the backs in the same way as we often do with the forwards, so saying to the likes of Ronan Maher, for the next 10 minutes you 're marking arron gillane, stick to him like glue and in 10 minutes you 'll be back out on the half line catching and driving forward. Obviously that system has it's risks but if there s an expectation of fluidity then lads could play on without any despondency. We might need one specialised full back and one specialised half back in the line at all times. Hardly going to implement this system at this stage but we do need a bit of freshness.

Calvin001 · 16-07-2019 4:42pm

Wexford will deploy the sweeper, to crowd out our half forwards / midfield with the hope of stopping everything on this line. Why not start Heffernan (or Connors or someone who can win a ball) instead of Barry, and send him to midfield / half forward to mark the sweeper?

If the rest of our backs cant mark the Wexford forwards, were doomed anyway, no??

An additional Tipp fella on this line may help?

Pogue eile · 16-07-2019 4:53pm

Calvin001 wrote: »

Wexford will deploy the sweeper, to crowd out our half forwards / midfield with the hope of stopping everything on this line. Why not start Heffernan (or Connors or someone who can win a ball) instead of Barry, and send him to midfield / half forward to mark the sweeper?

If the rest of our backs cant mark the Wexford forwards, were doomed anyway, no??

An additional Tipp fella on this line may help?

Surely sending out an extra body plays into the hand of the team that wants to crowd out the middle.

It's not a concern at all for me, we have plenty of concerns but this is not one of them, Tipp have always comfortably, more than any other county, countered the sweeper. People are putting far too much stock in what happened at the weekend, same as they did after the Westmeath match in 2017, we bounced back after that and were very unlucky to lose a classic to Galway in the semi, a performance on a par with that would see us in the AI fiinal.

digzy · 16-07-2019 5:12pm

Pogue eile wrote: »

Surely sending out an extra body plays into the hand of the team that wants to crowd out the middle.

It's not a concern at all for me, we have plenty of concerns but this is not one of them, Tipp have always comfortably, more than any other county, countered the sweeper. People are putting far too much stock in what happened at the weekend, same as they did after the Westmeath match in 2017, we bounced back after that and were very unlucky to lose a classic to Galway in the semi, a performance on a par with that would see us in the AI fiinal.

Dunno if I’d agree with you there. If I remember correctly Callanan had an absolute blinder that day. Which kinda papered over the cracks on the rest of the team..

Pogue eile · 16-07-2019 5:14pm

digzy wrote: »

Dunno if I’d agree with you there. If I remember correctly Callanan had an absolute blinder that day. Which kinda papered over the cracks on the rest of the team..

You dont remember correctly, that was 2015.

Joe_ Public · 16-07-2019 6:11pm

Pogue eile wrote: »

Surely sending out an extra body plays into the hand of the team that wants to crowd out the middle.

It's not a concern at all for me, we have plenty of concerns but this is not one of them, Tipp have always comfortably, more than any other county, countered the sweeper. People are putting far too much stock in what happened at the weekend, same as they did after the Westmeath match in 2017, we bounced back after that and were very unlucky to lose a classic to Galway in the semi, a performance on a par with that would see us in the AI fiinal.

Agree with most of this. What tends to happen in these situations from what i remember anyway is teams line up with a sweeper and Paidi gets left as a loose man in our defence and more often than not ends up with motm award. Wouldnt bother me unduly either.

Where you lose me is the unlucky bit about the 2017 sf. In truth, we were well beaten that day, at least everywhere except the scoreboard. Still amazes me that Canning had to get that mircacle point from the sideline to squeeze it. But they really horsed us out of it that day, though to be fair we stuck at it and Bubbles could have saved us at the end. If Dan could find the form he showed that day again, we'd be in a great position now.

Xenophile · 16-07-2019 9:01pm

A pity to see Tipperary play in such dull strip last Sunday, completely devoid of colour not the sort of jersey that most young people would be rushing to wear.

The blue and gold strip is very attractive and as far as I can see many young people are very happy to wear it almost every day of their school holidays.

At this time of year the jersey is very functional as it can be dumped into the washing machine almost every day.

The jersey is quite expensive and parents and young people should get full value for the considerable amount of money they shell out for same.

By the way the same applies to the Kerry and the dull strip they wore last Sunday.

farmerval · 16-07-2019 9:54pm

Wexford will definitely play a sweeper against us which means we will have at least one free defender at all times.
What we do with him is the big question. Does he sit deep and protect James Barry? Or can we use him to bridge the gap between backs and forwards?

The ball into our forward line has declined in quality all year. Noel delivers beautiful ball forward but if he's crowded out we're in trouble. Paidi sitting deep and Brendan on man marking duty leaves two thirds of our half back line too occupied or too far from our forwards. Ronan and Noel are lovely ball strikers but both are quite static players they get possession and deliver it. We really lack a dynamic player in the middle third that will link our backs and forwards.

Maybe Alan Flynn might get onto ore ball and link to our attackers. As the year goes on we are looking a bit more like Michael Ryan's team all the time.

16-07-2019 10:29pm

Interesting hearing people opinions on what’s gone wrong for Tipp lately .i think in the round robin other teams tried to mark our forwards in the usual ways with little joy as the balls were flying into them perfectly, limerick as they did twice last year and again in the Munster final go for the source of the delivery and put huge effort into preventing aimed ball heading in which seems to be the only way we know how to play . The problem for us is our forwards are slowish and are inept at winning hard ball regularly resulting in total collapse of our forwards and our game plan . Even Laois had success . Dare I say we hurled better under mike Ryan than our last two games under sheedy

Pogue eile · 17-07-2019 3:05pm

Joe_ Public wrote: »

Agree with most of this. What tends to happen in these situations from what i remember anyway is teams line up with a sweeper and Paidi gets left as a loose man in our defence and more often than not ends up with motm award. Wouldnt bother me unduly either.

Where you lose me is the unlucky bit about the 2017 sf. In truth, we were well beaten that day, at least everywhere except the scoreboard. Still amazes me that Canning had to get that mircacle point from the sideline to squeeze it. But they really horsed us out of it that day, though to be fair we stuck at it and Bubbles could have saved us at the end. If Dan could find the form he showed that day again, we'd be in a great position now.

My memory of the game is quite different to be honest, although I do admit that I had spent the previous week in Galway at the races, so wasnt exactly in the full of my health! I thought we improved exponentially from what we were hurling like in the previous games and that the referee was particualrly harsh on us that day.

Pogue eile · 17-07-2019 3:07pm

Xenophile wrote: »

A pity to see Tipperary play in such dull strip last Sunday, completely devoid of colour not the sort of jersey that most young people would be rushing to wear.

The blue and gold strip is very attractive and as far as I can see many young people are very happy to wear it almost every day of their school holidays.

At this time of year the jersey is very functional as it can be dumped into the washing machine almost every day.

The jersey is quite expensive and parents and young people should get full value for the considerable amount of money they shell out for same.

By the way the same applies to the Kerry and the dull strip they wore last Sunday.

It's good that you are focusing on the real issues of importance :rolleyes:

Joe_ Public · 17-07-2019 3:51pm

Pogue eile wrote: »

My memory of the game is quite different to be honest, although I do admit that I had spent the previous week in Galway at the races, so wasnt exactly in the full of my health! I thought we improved exponentially from what we were hurling like in the previous games and that the referee was particualrly harsh on us that day.

No worries, end of the day the scoreboard is the one arbiter that matters and we came within inches of emerging with our lives intact. As i said Dan McCormack was magnificent at midfield that day and also worth remembering that James had an excellent day at full back so, although i'm worried about his confidence at this stage, he's yet to let us down on the big stage in HQ so i'm going to use that for reassurance in the days and week ahead.

Joe_ Public · 17-07-2019 4:04pm

farmerval wrote: »

Wexford will definitely play a sweeper against us which means we will have at least one free defender at all times.
What we do with him is the big question. Does he sit deep and protect James Barry? Or can we use him to bridge the gap between backs and forwards?

The ball into our forward line has declined in quality all year. Noel delivers beautiful ball forward but if he's crowded out we're in trouble. Paidi sitting deep and Brendan on man marking duty leaves two thirds of our half back line too occupied or too far from our forwards. Ronan and Noel are lovely ball strikers but both are quite static players they get possession and deliver it. We really lack a dynamic player in the middle third that will link our backs and forwards.

Maybe Alan Flynn might get onto ore ball and link to our attackers. As the year goes on we are looking a bit more like Michael Ryan's team all the time.

Fair points. I still believe Wexford withdrawing a forward plays into our hands as much as theirs. They have a couple of troublesome forwards but a free man helps us cover some of our deficiencies, kind of allows us to play with a sweeper too without it being a deliberate strategy.

I wonder about the Noel being so static line, though. In the round robin games, at least, i dont we had any single player cover so much ground, whether he was emerging up front to score that goal against Clare, or covering deep to launch that beautiful pass to Brendan in midfield against Limerick, or working back to hook young Boylan as he was pulling the trigger in the same game. He's scored 1-9 from play which is a very good return i think, though it is fair to say his last two performances have seen a definite levelling off. Still, i personally think there is an issue in midfield but it's not Noel.

Ompala · 17-07-2019 9:04pm

What I find has changed a lot from the last 2 games versus early rounds is our movement off the ball is next to non existent in the forwards. Whatever about open play, our puckouts are a prime example of this. Contrast ourselves and Laois on Sunday. Numerous Laois puck outs were won by playing a lower angled ball at a forward running in towards the ball. In contrast we bunched up under a long high ball from Brian Hogan, which favours the defender every time. What kills me is they are capable of playing so much better, they aren't a bad group of players.

farmerval · 17-07-2019 9:14pm

Joe_ Public wrote: »

Fair points. I still believe Wexford withdrawing a forward plays into our hands as much as theirs. They have a couple of troublesome forwards but a free man helps us cover some of our deficiencies, kind of allows us to play with a sweeper too without it being a deliberate strategy.

I wonder about the Noel being so static line, though. In the round robin games, at least, i dont we had any single player cover so much ground, whether he was emerging up front to score that goal against Clare, or covering deep to launch that beautiful pass to Brendan in midfield against Limerick, or working back to hook young Boylan as he was pulling the trigger in the same game. He's scored 1-9 from play which is a very good return i think, though it is fair to say his last two performances have seen a definite levelling off. Still, i personally think there is an issue in midfield but it's not Noel.

I agree, what I was trying to say was when Noel gets on the ball he delivers it long, usually really well, what I think we are badly lacking around the middle is a busy player that gets on lots of ball and links the play well. Cian Lynch is teh outstanding operator at this, but lots of teams use a deep playing wing forward or whatever to support the player in possession all the time. I think we deliver a lot of ball long into our forwards and it's getting easier to defend against.

Noel really looks so well suited to midfield, but being near a generally slow half backline I think exasperates our lack of pace around the middle.

Michael Breen rarely gets many possessions in a game, when he gets the ball he shoots or plays it in quickly. We rarely play with much possessions around the middle.

Joe_ Public · 17-07-2019 9:47pm

farmerval wrote: »

I agree, what I was trying to say was when Noel gets on the ball he delivers it long, usually really well, what I think we are badly lacking around the middle is a busy player that gets on lots of ball and links the play well. Cian Lynch is teh outstanding operator at this, but lots of teams use a deep playing wing forward or whatever to support the player in possession all the time. I think we deliver a lot of ball long into our forwards and it's getting easier to defend against.

Noel really looks so well suited to midfield, but being near a generally slow half backline I think exasperates our lack of pace around the middle.

Michael Breen rarely gets many possessions in a game, when he gets the ball he shoots or plays it in quickly. We rarely play with much possessions around the middle.

Yeah, i see what you're getting at. Spot on too i'd say. Dont think we're a running team really, and never have been, its getting possession and quick, low ball into forwards for scores and goal chances. Not been good past couple of games and thats partly fault of backs, i'd say, but also have a twinge of sympathy for them as its obvious when they're on the ball, they're struggling to locate targets further ahead. Same issue for puck outs. Thats a consequence of opposition marshalling us well too. Have to find a way to counter that.

My issue with Mick Breen is we can all see what a powerful athletic player he is, but you dont really see him using that physique or pace around the middle where i think we're crying out for it. He can cut loose when a game has opened up, he can find space and have a free run forward or to take a score. Ger Browne and Jerome Cahill are better longer term bets, but a lot to ask of them at this stage of their careers, so i think it's probably likely we'll see them sticking with Breen.

Ompala · 22-07-2019 7:31pm

under 20 team announced to play Cork tomorrow night

1. Aaron Browne – Knockavilla-Donaskeigh Kickhams
2. Conor McCarthy – Nenagh Éire Óg
3. Michael Purcell – Thurles Sarsfields
4. Craig Morgan – Kilruane MacDonaghs (Capt.)
5. Eoghan Connolly – Cashel King Cormacs
6. Paddy Cadell – JK Brackens
7. Bryan O’Mara – Holycross-Ballycahill
8. Ciarán Connolly – Loughmore-Castleiney
9. Jerome Cahill – Kilruane MacDonaghs
10. Gearóid O’Connor – Moyne-Templetuohy
11. Jake Morris – Nenagh Éire Óg
12. Joe Fogarty – Moneygall
13. Seán Hayes – Kiladangan
14. Billy Seymour – Kiladanagn
15. Conor Bowe – Moyne-Templetuohy

16. Eoin Collins – Drom-Inch
17. Niall Heffernan – Golden-Kilfeacle
18. Robbie Quirke – Toomevara
19. Kieran Breen – Knockavilla-Donaskeigh Kickhams
20. Darragh Woods – Holycross-Ballycahill
21. Kian O’Kelly – Kilruane MacDonaghs
22. Johnny Ryan – Arravale Rovers
23. Andrew Ormond – JK Brackens
24. Ray McCormack – Borris-Ileigh

Ompala · 23-07-2019 9:01pm

Great win by the Under 20s, full time 3-15 to 2-17 with a last gasp Jake Morris goal saving Tipp.
Munster Champs with Wexford next up.

digzy · 23-07-2019 9:47pm

Ompala wrote: »

Great win by the Under 20s, full time 3-15 to 2-17 with a last gasp Jake Morris goal saving Tipp.
Munster Champs with Wexford next up.

There’s a real never say die attitude about that team. Thought cork had the more talented hurlers ( much like Galway last year) but our work rate and attitude are incredible.

That Conor Bowe is some player and thought the hb line are top class.

Sweet.Science · 23-07-2019 10:22pm

Some fine hurlers in that back line

plumber77 · 24-07-2019 6:02am

In fairness to Cahill, he really does seem to get a good honest work rate from his team's.

nw5iytvs0lf1uz · 24-07-2019 11:47am

great win, some good players on that team.
cadell, bryan o mara and bowe look like players who need to be fast tracked to the senior squad.
Liam cahill, what a man.

24-07-2019 12:09pm

Great game last night whether we won lost or drew. A briliant advertisement for the game. The lads just never say die under Liam Cahill and when you have that attitude in spades, the gods will favour you more often than not.

Credit to Cork though who are a lovely side to watch for the neutral. Its hard not to feel a degree of sympathy for them. They more than contributed to a classic.

Great refereeing performances rarely get a mention but the man in the middle last night, Tom Walsh, was fantastic. Hope he gets to referee more big games in the future.

lonestar 74 · 24-07-2019 2:55pm

What a game that was last night. It had a bit of everything great scores, last ditch defending, fantastic saves, hunger, desire, a never say die attitude and an unreal finish. Hopefully that result will rub off on the seniors on Sunday.

nw5iytvs0lf1uz · 24-07-2019 3:36pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Great game last night whether we won lost or drew. A briliant advertisement for the game. The lads just never say die under Liam Cahill and when you have that attitude in spades, the gods will favour you more often than not.

Credit to Cork though who are a lovely side to watch for the neutral. Its hard not to feel a degree of sympathy for them. They more than contributed to a classic.

Great refereeing performances rarely get a mention but the man in the middle last night, Tom Walsh, was fantastic. Hope he gets to referee more big games in the future.

agreed, i am firmer believer that whistle should be kept in the pocket and only used when there is a blatant free.

Pogue eile · 24-07-2019 3:59pm

Malik Sparse Okra wrote: »

great win, some good players on that team.
cadell, bryan o mara and bowe look like players who need to be fast tracked to the senior squad.
Liam cahill, what a man.

Cadell is already on the senior panel, I would add Craig Morgan to that list - Turnbull is the main man in that Cork forward line and he never gave him a sniff, from the front hurling just like Barrett.

Joe_ Public · 24-07-2019 6:20pm

Was a terrific contest that, last 20 minutes tipp were superb, would have been very unlucky to lose it. Have another good keeper in Aaron Browne and very impressed with Ormond too. Bowe and Cadell, as mentioned, are prospects and they really do seem to play to the whistle for Liam Cahill for sure.

nw5iytvs0lf1uz · 25-07-2019 2:46pm

Pogue eile wrote: »

Cadell is already on the senior panel, I would add Craig Morgan to that list - Turnbull is the main man in that Cork forward line and he never gave him a sniff, from the front hurling just like Barrett.

Bowe for me has the look of a very talented player

osullic · 25-07-2019 6:15pm

Lads the closer it gets to Sunday the more worried about this match I become.

I'm living down in Wexford and there is a serious buzz about the place. These lads will be right up for it and they have some tidy hurlers too.

Tipp's work rate will have to match/surpass Wexford's. I hope they can as the Laois performance was so off colour.

Wexford only hit three or four wides against Kilkenny, I hoping they don't repeat that sort of accurate shooting again.

We need a big performance from the two Johns, Bubbles and McGrath need to deliver and they normally do in Croke Park.

Tiobraid Árann ABÚ

Joe_ Public · 25-07-2019 9:43pm

The closer i get the more optimistic i'm feeling! I think that's just because i was feeling a tad gloomy after the Laois performance and it's just kind of washed off me a bit by now. Will be really interested to see what if any changes they go with this week, assuming everybody is fit to go. I think it should be worth persevering with Ger Browne, he didn't pull up any trees the last day but he didn't do too badly either and i'd like to see them show a bit of faith in him. If it doesnt work, can always make a change.

farmerval · 25-07-2019 10:52pm

It's very hard to have any form line on Tipp and Wexford, it's so rare we meet in championship hurling, as well as the Davy factor, this Wexford will be a really well drilled team.
Looking at them in the Leinster final they were very organised in making scores, good support play and very structured, not the traditional Wexford way.
This weekend will tell all about the merits of the Munster and Leinster championships this year.

Tipp 77 · 26-07-2019 12:03pm

I agree with you there. I was leaving the Laois match thinking we are going to really struggle in a semifinal we looked glued to the ground. Then you think the players were on a hiding to nothing in that match and you know when they get to a semifinal they know what's at stake and they will up it. We could put in a great performance and not win because Wexford have a good team but I don't think lack of effort and physicality will be an issue on Sunday

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The closer i get the more optimistic i'm feeling! I think that's just because i was feeling a tad gloomy after the Laois performance and it's just kind of washed off me a bit by now. Will be really interested to see what if any changes they go with this week, assuming everybody is fit to go. I think it should be worth persevering with Ger Browne, he didn't pull up any trees the last day but he didn't do too badly either and i'd like to see them show a bit of faith in him. If it doesnt work, can always make a change.

Donadea Leo · 26-07-2019 8:30pm

The joys of being a tipp supporter, roller coaster ride all the time, which tipp will turn up, that's such a theme with this team. Undoubtedly the most talented wristy hurlers in the country but hurling has changed, physicality, tactics and aggression means you need to be able to take on your man and burst away for a few yards to use your skill, kilkenny do this very well and why they 've been so successful, Saturday night will be interesting but we seem to be always trying to create space, super to watch when it works, back off us and we 'll destroy you, but teams are getting better all the time at denying space, wexford are as good if not better than anybody else at this.
I think it's too late to change tactics so this comes down to whether we can come up with a plan to get our players into space and get ball to them. I m not sure we can though really hope we can. Going forward we need some players who can take on their men and create two or three yards themselves, ala t j Reid, Richie Hogan.

Ompala · 27-07-2019 12:23am

The Tipperary team to play Wexford in the All-Ireland Senior Hurling Championship Semi-Final on Sunday next, July 28th, at 3.30pm in Croke Park has been announced by manager Liam Sheedy.

There are two changes from the side that lined out in the recent quarter-final win, which sees Barry Heffernan and Michael Breen come into the starting fifteen for Sunday.

The Tipperary team is as follows;

1. Brian Hogan – Lorrha-Dorrha
2. Cathal Barrett – Holycross-Ballycahill
3. James Barry – Upperchurch-Drombane
4. Barry Heffernan – Nenagh Éire Óg
5. Brendan Maher – Borris-Ileigh
6. Padraic Maher – Thurles Sarsfields
7. Ronan Maher – Thurles Sarsfields
8. Noel McGrath – Loughmore-Castleiney
9. Michael Breen – Ballina
10. Dan McCormack – Borris-Ileigh
11. John O’Dwyer – Killenaule
12. Niall O’Meara – Kilruane MacDonaghs
13. Jason Forde – Silvermines
14. Séamus Callanan (Capt.) – Drom-Inch
15. John McGrath – Loughmore-Castleiney

16. Paul Maher – Moyne-Templetuohy
17. Ger Browne – Knockavilla-Donaskeigh Kickhams
18. Robert Byrne – Portroe
19. Jerome Cahill – Kilruane MacDonaghs
20. Willie Connors – Kiladangan
21. Alan Flynn – Kiladangan
22. Mark Kehoe – Kilsheelan-Kilcash
23. Séamus Kennedy – St. Mary’s
24. Donagh Maher – Burgess
25. Jake Morris – Nenagh Éire Óg
26. Seán O’Brien – Newport

Joe_ Public · 27-07-2019 12:20pm

Read a comment in the examiner this morning to the effect Breen and Heffernan had been brought in for their physicality. Must say in all i've seen of Barry so far, he's a very smart hurler but getting stuck in to physical scraps not really his thing. Earned a lot of plaudits after the Waterford game, but played mostly as a loose man that game and was able to hurl a serious amount of ball. Maybe the intention tomorrow is to play him as the loose man which would make sense to me anyway as delivery to forwards is generally good and can take a long range score pretty well too.

As for Michael, a powerfully built, athletic guy for sure, but i can't say personally i've seen a huge amount of evidence that he thrives in physical, robust encounters. Going to be very congested in middle third and a lot of ruck ball to be won or lost. Not sure that's his game, then again he has a habit of popping up every now and again with massive contributions so hopefully it's a going day for him tomorrow.

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