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Now ye're talking - to a bus driver

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    greenspurs wrote: »
    Even if you are answering as a bus driver, you didn't answer either question.....

    Yes they are disciplined.


  • Company Representative Posts: 42 Verified rep I'm a Bus Driver, AMA


    Just looking to throw my question in the hat again incase you missed it: :)


    Just to reassure those who have questions relating to the Job of busdriving,that I'm not ignoring them,but I don't have unlimited time available to do the Boards Shuffle,so if it takes a few days,I humbly beg pardon.


    Also,the point of this AMA is to offer assistance,advice and personal experience on the Job in General.


    I try to stay clear of Canteen Talk,over-the-garden-wall gossip,rumour and the Us & Them Union stuff,which many observers appear to think fully occupies a Busdrivers every waking moment....however,for me,It really does'nt,so those who might need such input will have to search elsewhere for it,no offence intended.


    To return to your point KKV,regarding Sleep,it's something I have not experienced.
    It is a condition of employment,and also a legal requirement that a Driver be in a fit state to perform their duties,so ensuring you get sufficient rest,is part & parcel of the job.


    People differ in their ability to cope with sleep deprivation,an issue which is very well known across all Professional Driving sectors.


    The advent of ongoing Driver CPC courses ,and particularly the Health & Safety module,did raise awareness regarding Tiredness and also highlighted issues such as Sleep Apnoea and Narcolepsy,both of which can end a Professional Driving career.


    So I'd suggest that most Truck,Coach and Bus drivers are far more aware of the dangers now,than at any time up to this,but yet again,the individual human being van have vastly differing tolerances.


  • Company Representative Posts: 42 Verified rep I'm a Bus Driver, AMA


    Which routes are considered the good ones to get?


    Ask any group of Busdrivers from differing garages in any City and you're likely to get a broad range of answers.


    For example,some Drivers do not like cross-city routes,whilst other like the buzz of that type of operation.


    The job remains the same....Get from A to Z as safely and Comfortably as possible.


  • Company Representative Posts: 42 Verified rep I'm a Bus Driver, AMA


    Maldesu wrote: »
    Are there 'starter' routes for new drivers? How do you learn all the stops for a new route and are routes allocated based on proximity to where you live?


    Different operators have differing approaches I suspect.


    The prevailing situation in my own company is based on a gradual progression through routes in the location...gradually leading to full familiarity by the end of the probationary period.


    Training is the key.


    It is somewhat commonsensical to keep staff within a reasonable distance from their base,however the demands of individual locations can alter,so no guarantees can be given.


    Often a new entrant will become quite comfortable in their first location,and not bother following through on moving closer to home.


  • Boards.ie Employee Posts: 12,597 ✭✭✭✭✭Boards.ie: Niamh
    Boards.ie Community Manager


    Mod:
    Dog Man Star warned for uncivil posting. I have removed his post and any replies in an effort to keep this thread on topic.

    Dog Man Star, do not post in this thread again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,202 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    Em.....what is the best way to keep safe on a bus at night or anytime.

    Thank you :)


  • Company Representative Posts: 42 Verified rep I'm a Bus Driver, AMA


    Em.....what is the best way to keep safe on a bus at night or anytime.

    Thank you :)


    Be observant,be aware of your surroundings,take reasonable precaution as in using the available technology such as CCTV viewers,and plain ol' mirrors to see who's where in the vehicle.


    In short,take an interest,and be seen to be interested in what's happenin around you,an attitude which goes for the entirety of the Job,not just physical safety.


    It may not be the recieved wisdom,but Dublin remains a largely safe environment,even if the media would wish to portray it otherwise.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    Have you ever had anyone do the dirty on the bus???

    Ever had someone relieve themselves???

    How do you find taxi drivers towards you?

    Do you know what went on on the 18 route?

    What do you do when the bus stop is blocked by taxis or delivery vans or trucks?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,737 ✭✭✭Yer Da sells Avon


    Do you ever tactically use the accelerator to 'help' elderly passengers to sit down more quickly?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,526 ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    Has a passenger ever asked you out?


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  • Company Representative Posts: 42 Verified rep I'm a Bus Driver, AMA


    Have you ever had anyone do the dirty on the bus???
    Adult,no. Infant,yes.
    Ever had someone relieve themselves???
    See Above
    How do you find taxi drivers towards you?
    Generally grand,In fact quite often the driver holding back to allow me out,will be a Taxidriver.
    Do you know what went on on the 18 route?
    No.
    What do you do when the bus stop is blocked by taxis or delivery vans or trucks?
    Nothing. I don't have any power to physically move them,and it's totally unproductive to get myself upset about them,so I just deal with it as I would any other obstruction.


  • Company Representative Posts: 42 Verified rep I'm a Bus Driver, AMA


    Do you ever tactically use the accelerator to 'help' elderly passengers to sit down more quickly?


    Absolutely not....why would any trained Busdriver even want to do this ?


  • Company Representative Posts: 42 Verified rep I'm a Bus Driver, AMA


    Has a passenger ever asked you out?


    Nope.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,907 ✭✭✭Stephen15


    Hope this isn't the wrong place but what actually happened on the 18 a couple of years ago or is that top secret I'm genuinely curious to find out now?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,907 ✭✭✭Stephen15


    Is it actually true that some drivers refused to drive buses during the European elections for Gemma O'Doherty? I didn't think drivers just like most passengers would even look at the ads on the side of buses. Does it actually ever happen that drivers refuse to drive buses due to a moral objection to the ads that are on them?

    Also what's your opinion on spotters SG323?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,737 ✭✭✭Yer Da sells Avon


    A passenger places their Leap card on your underpowered and overworked Wayfarer machine to pay their €1.55 fare. You press the relevant button, and they take the card away after a reasonable amount of time, but before the transaction has been processed...

    Do you call them back?


  • Posts: 14,344 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Probably a silly question and apologies if already asked, but i haven't seen it:

    Did you set out to be a bus driver? A friend of mine's dad drove a bus, and my friend, during school, was obsessed with driving buses. Never actually did it in the end though.

    Or did you just happen to fall into it?

    Also, despite the AMA you're doing now, if you clock out and go home, and someone mentions buses, do you eagerly discuss the ins and outs of the bus world, or do you wish an early death on the person for talking to you about 'work' on your down time?

    Do you read up on the new bus models coming in, read online enthusiast forums, look at pics, etc. or is a bus just another random vehicle to potter about in and you don't actually care about it beyond it being comfortable?


    Stephen15 wrote: »
    Hope this isn't the wrong place but what actually happened on the 18 a couple of years ago or is that top secret I'm genuinely curious to find out now?




    Yeah me too. :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    In the doing the dirt I meant get it on.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,587 ✭✭✭john boye


    Ever had a dispute with the company and had full support from the union only for them to throw you under the (actual?) bus at the eleventh hour? Seems to be a common theme


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 701 ✭✭✭Sam the Sham


    Has any complaint to Dublin Bus (about drivers, speeding, etc.) ever been dealt with or do they all go directly into the bin?


  • Company Representative Posts: 42 Verified rep I'm a Bus Driver, AMA


    Stephen15 wrote: »
    Hope this isn't the wrong place but what actually happened on the 18 a couple of years ago or is that top secret I'm genuinely curious to find out now?


    As I replied to the OP asking this,who apparently,is also a Busdriver,I've no factual answer to their question,which then means entering into gossip,conjecture,and simple curiosity,which is not what the thread is about.


    You yourself earlier posted about your own interest in,and possible desire to go Busdriving,and keeping clear of tittle-tattle and canteen talk is one of the best pieces of advice you can ever be given,applicable within any group based environment.


  • Company Representative Posts: 42 Verified rep I'm a Bus Driver, AMA


    Stephen15 wrote: »
    Is it actually true that some drivers refused to drive buses during the European elections for Gemma O'Doherty? I didn't think drivers just like most passengers would even look at the ads on the side of buses. Does it actually ever happen that drivers refuse to drive buses due to a moral objection to the ads that are on them?

    Also what's your opinion on spotters SG323?


    I have no idea whether it's true or not,but I most likely drove Ms O'Doherty around Dublin on many occasions.
    I'm not aware of many Drivers who carry out surveys of the adverts on their buses,but there may well be some,but I'm not one of them.


    Apart from noticing them snapping away at some locations,I've no opinion good or bad about them...they've never interfered with my Driving or caused any problems.


  • Company Representative Posts: 42 Verified rep I'm a Bus Driver, AMA


    A passenger places their Leap card on your underpowered and overworked Wayfarer machine to pay their €1.55 fare. You press the relevant button, and they take the card away after a reasonable amount of time, but before the transaction has been processed...

    Do you call them back?


    If it's reasonably possible to get their attention,then yes I will ask them to return and retry,I will use my own judgement,but yes I do see it as part of my duties to make reasonable efforts to ensure they are processed.


    That does not mean I will turn somersaults or start roaring down the back of the bus,to get their attention,it's all about what is reasonable.


  • Company Representative Posts: 42 Verified rep I'm a Bus Driver, AMA


    Probably a silly question and apologies if already asked, but i haven't seen it:

    Did you set out to be a bus driver? A friend of mine's dad drove a bus, and my friend, during school, was obsessed with driving buses. Never actually did it in the end though.

    Or did you just happen to fall into it?

    Also, despite the AMA you're doing now, if you clock out and go home, and someone mentions buses, do you eagerly discuss the ins and outs of the bus world, or do you wish an early death on the person for talking to you about 'work' on your down time?

    Do you read up on the new bus models coming in, read online enthusiast forums, look at pics, etc. or is a bus just another random vehicle to potter about in and you don't actually care about it beyond it being comfortable?








    Yeah me too. :o


    Nah It was'nt my chosen path in life,but at one point it arrived along just when I was waiting for something :)


    No family connection,no friends in the job...just something flexible and reasonably well paid..pay the mortgage,put food on the table.


    I would have some degree of interest in Buses and equipment,which after all I might have to operate some day,however that would'nt stretch to taking photo's or noting registrations.



    If the Bus topic comes up in conversation then I'll chip in,but it's a Job to me,one which I enjoy and I would'nt ever get elevated so much over it to wish harm on anybody bringing it up.


    If I did start to feel that way,I'd get out of the Job as fast as I could.


  • Company Representative Posts: 42 Verified rep I'm a Bus Driver, AMA


    In the doing the dirt I meant get it on.....


    No,'fraid not.


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  • Company Representative Posts: 42 Verified rep I'm a Bus Driver, AMA


    john boye wrote: »
    Ever had a dispute with the company and had full support from the union only for them to throw you under the (actual?) bus at the eleventh hour? Seems to be a common theme


    No,never had that happen to me.


    It may well be a common theme,but it never occurred to me,nor to most of my immediate colleagues.
    Often,things that "seem" to be something,may in fact,be nothing at all like what they actually are.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    No,'fraid not.

    I did I'm afraid to say and it wasn't pretty.....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,907 ✭✭✭Stephen15


    No,'fraid not.

    Or at least not that you've noticed :D


  • Company Representative Posts: 42 Verified rep I'm a Bus Driver, AMA


    Has any complaint to Dublin Bus (about drivers, speeding, etc.) ever been dealt with or do they all go directly into the bin?


    I have to clarify that I'm not a spokesperson for Dublin Bus,or any other operator.
    Everything I post is my personal Opinion.


    That said,I hope you can see how no answer I can give could reasonably answer your question.


    All operators have complaints procedures,and these have never been more easily accessed,so I dunno, perhaps it'd be more productive to direct these observations to those who have that responsibility ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,907 ✭✭✭Stephen15


    You yourself earlier posted about your own interest in,and possible desire to go Busdriving,and keeping clear of tittle-tattle and canteen talk is one of the best pieces of advice you can ever be given,applicable within any group based environment.

    Good advice thanks for it. Yeah I'm fully aware of the tittle tattle being spread that goes on and it's a problem with social media these days and not just in the bus world.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,907 ✭✭✭Stephen15


    How do you deal with people asking to be let out at the lights?


  • Company Representative Posts: 42 Verified rep I'm a Bus Driver, AMA


    Stephen15 wrote: »
    How do you deal with people asking to be let out at the lights?


    Oddly enough,it's something also dying out as people generally have become so risk averse that such behaviour is alien to them.


    Today,it's only the odd old-timer who'd ask you to "Throw uz out there pal" :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 11 Craggo


    What is the purpose of the little window on some double deckers that people sitting at the top front can look down through and see the driver?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,737 ✭✭✭Yer Da sells Avon


    Craggo wrote: »
    What is the purpose of the little window on some double deckers that people sitting at the top front can look down through and see the driver?

    The periscope, with the convex mirror above it? I haven't seen one of them on a bus in years. All cameras now.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,907 ✭✭✭Stephen15


    The periscope, with the convex mirror above it? I haven't seen one of them on a bus in years. All cameras now.

    The ex DB RVs and the AVs from 2000 now with private operators would still have them


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,910 ✭✭✭begbysback


    Do ye ever feel like giving a go ahead, for old times sake?


  • Registered Users Posts: 11 Craggo


    The periscope, with the convex mirror above it? I haven't seen one of them on a bus in years. All cameras now.

    Oh, that’s what it’s for? Had no idea lol.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    Craggo wrote: »
    Oh, that’s what it’s for? Had no idea lol.

    Nothing worse on a wet day all sorts would come running down that onto anyone under namely the driver...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,819 ✭✭✭liam7831


    Does it wreck your buzz if someone keeps ringing the bell down the back of the bus ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    liam7831 wrote: »
    Does it wreck your buzz if someone keeps ringing the bell down the back of the bus ?

    Only rings once.....


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,060 ✭✭✭Sexual Chocolate


    Craggo wrote: »
    Oh, that’s what it’s for? Had no idea lol.

    Used to remember when I was a child on the old Olympians and RAs etc looking down it followed by the driver coming over the PA giving out :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,737 ✭✭✭Yer Da sells Avon


    Used to remember when I was a child on the old Olympians and RAs etc looking down it followed by the driver coming over the PA giving out :p

    "I can see up your nose"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    "I can see up your nose"

    No no no..... I can see up your trousers....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    Worst case would be when someone would take a pee upstairs then this would make its way down...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,709 ✭✭✭Tombo2001


    Hi - One of the most shocking things I've ever seen in Ireland was an attack on a black bus driver (Dublin bus).

    I was sitting on the bus with my then 1 year old, and even for me sitting there and not involved, it was fairly terrifying.

    Against that, the drivers calm but strong reaction was incredibly impressive.

    Do you get training to deal with thugs?

    And in general, do you find that passengers appreciate the service, or do you generally perceive a lack of gratitude.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,920 ✭✭✭dashcamdanny


    Are you glad to see the back of the AX buses?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,001 ✭✭✭The Enbalmer


    In your opinion how dangerous is the average cyclist?


  • Registered Users Posts: 41 129000000


    Why do a company like Bus Eireann who are 'screaming out for drivers' reject a large number of applicants despite the low level of interest in the job in the modern day, also why must someone who was previously rejected wait a minimum of 12 months to reapply.

    I'm a former coach driver myself for a private operator, is this something you will consider once you retire from your current position.

    I'd imagine they have either reached there quota or have looked at the CV and decided you would not be a ideal candidate, I am guessing you are from Cork obviously by the username they would have a smaller number of new recruits as say Dublin if you wanted to get a job in BE your better to apply to Dublin were they need more drivers but beware of the "long days"


  • Company Representative Posts: 42 Verified rep I'm a Bus Driver, AMA


    liam7831 wrote: »
    Does it wreck your buzz if someone keeps ringing the bell down the back of the bus ?


    No longer an issue.
    Since 2012 the Audible Bell only rings once per deck,then it defaults to a flashing light on the instrument panel.


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  • Company Representative Posts: 42 Verified rep I'm a Bus Driver, AMA


    Tombo2001 wrote: »
    Hi - One of the most shocking things I've ever seen in Ireland was an attack on a black bus driver (Dublin bus).

    I was sitting on the bus with my then 1 year old, and even for me sitting there and not involved, it was fairly terrifying.

    Against that, the drivers calm but strong reaction was incredibly impressive.

    Do you get training to deal with thugs?

    And in general, do you find that passengers appreciate the service, or do you generally perceive a lack of gratitude.


    I can't speak for all operators,but the larger ones do provide such training/advice under the Customer Service heading.


    Plenty of gratitude and basic civility is the norm,I dont need people to be OTT about it,as I get paid to do a Job,and,to the best of my ability I do it,and then go home.The VAST majority of Bus Users are 100% appreciative and decent folks,who never get involved in any ill tempered behaviour.


    Behaviours which some appear to feel is commonplace,is in fact,NOT the norm in an average Busdrivers working day.


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