Just bought house- concerning neighbor behavior

Marengo · 15-01-2019 9:39pm

Just reading through. I think you got a very lucky warning and best to look elsewhere.

katiek102010 · 15-01-2019 9:54pm

It’s good that you have given yourselves time to think about it.

15-01-2019 10:36pm

bri007 wrote: »

We didn’t sign today, we notified our solicitor and he got the contract signing extended by a week to investigate further.

EA is making contact with owner of house we are sale agreed on to see what her input about it is.

We did some knocking on neighbours doors and appears to be just a trouble member of one particular family. Waiting on Garda to come back to me, friend asked one he knows so hopefully he will give us some more insight. Other than that we will have a good think about it this week and do some more information gathering before we commit any further

I think that's a good approach. You're getting all the information before making the final decision. It sounds like a house and location worth fighting for. Best of luck on your final decision. Whatever it is, it will be right for you.

bri007 · 15-01-2019 10:45pm

Thanks

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I think that's a good approach. You're getting all the information before making the final decision. It sounds like a house and location worth fighting for. Best of luck on your final decision. Whatever it is, it will be right for you.

eurokev · 15-01-2019 11:08pm

Isn't it bloody awful that people buying houses have to go through this crap, when that trouble maker (whom I'm postulating) is an utter drain, contributing nothing to society, causes this trouble to decent honest hard-working people mortgaging themselves to the hilt, to have a steady home.

This country is just unfair to ordinary people imo, I hope all works out for you op

sdanseo · 15-01-2019 11:12pm

There is literally no decision to make here. If you haven't signed the contracts, run a million miles.

16-01-2019 12:13am

sdanseo wrote: »

There is literally no decision to make here. If you haven't signed the contracts, run a million miles.

In fairness, he's taking the correct approach. Taking time to suss it out before deciding.

Cork981 · 16-01-2019 1:25am

To be honest I’d walk away from the whole deal, not worth the risk. You want to feel comfortable and safe in your own home.

We loved a house we viewed and almost went sale agreed but googled the street name and found that a guy living across from the house had numberous court appearances for theft, assault and drug use.

Loved the house but walked away and ended up with a much better house a few weeks later.

Cypher_sounds · 16-01-2019 1:36am

Go over across the road, knock on the door and see what they’re like.

TallGlass · 16-01-2019 1:52am

Firstly. I feel sorry for the people selling. Moving on from that point however, you wouldn't buy a used car with a fault. So why a house. Again moving on from that point.

My main concern apart from the activities these guys could get up to IE general public order, burglary etc.. is that if one of these fúckers took a general dislike to you etc.. That could make for a very miserable time, these fúcks know the law and how to get away with it too.

16-01-2019 2:05am

TallGlass wrote: »

Firstly. I feel sorry for the people selling. Moving on from that point however, you wouldn't buy a used car with a fault. So why a house. Again moving on from that point.

House doesn't have a fault as far as we're aware. The location may or may not have one- that's to be decided by the OP. Either way, the house will sell - either to the OP or to someone else, and either at the current price, a reduced price or an even more expensive price.

TallGlass · 16-01-2019 2:18am

[Deleted User] wrote: »

House doesn't have a fault as far as we're aware. The location may or may not have one- that's to be decided by the OP. Either way, the house will sell - either to the OP or to someone else, and either at the current price, a reduced price or an even more expensive price.

The house has a fault. It's not a physical fault. But it's a social fault and just as big as any structural fault.

Alot of ifs and buts. Fact of the matter here is there are undesirables living across the way. Might be harmless might not be harmless.

A large sum of cash is involved here let's not forget that either. Sound like alot of tunnel vision going on with the OP, might be a nice house, but people fighting in the front garden? No thanks.

Rubberchikken · 16-01-2019 2:23am

id run and never look back.
no matter how lovely the house or how excellent the location or good the price, a crap neighbour can destroy your life.
personally id live in a tent dangling over a cliff before id put up with the type of people the op described.

Linoge · 16-01-2019 2:27am

bri007 wrote: »

We didn’t sign today, we notified our solicitor and he got the contract signing extended by a week to investigate further.

EA is making contact with owner of house we are sale agreed on to see what her input about it is.

We did some knocking on neighbours doors and appears to be just a trouble member of one particular family. Waiting on Garda to come back to me, friend asked one he knows so hopefully he will give us some more insight. Other than that we will have a good think about it this week and do some more information gathering before we commit any further

Is the house below the price you would expect it to be? That’s would b the first flag.

I would take what the neighbours say with a pinch of salt. Nobody is gonna talk down their own area or purposefully drive down the price of their own house. Your sale falls through and the house gets sold eventually for 30k cheaper - that’s then the going value of houses on that street.

Unless it is a hard to find house - as in a rare one that ticks all your boxes - it should be an easy decision to walk away. There are always other houses.

16-01-2019 2:43am

TallGlass wrote: »

The house has a fault. It's not a physical fault. But it's a social fault and just as big as any structural fault.

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It’s all down to what degree it will effect the OP when living there and to what degree they can l8ve with it for the duration they’re in the house considering the liklihod of appreciation in value of the property over time.

They could buy another house tomorrow morning with noisy neighbors next door 24/7- and may not know that before they purchase- they’res no guarantee they will get the “perfect” house -unless they move to a detached property on substantial grounds in an affluent area- but even then as we’ve seen recently with both a former well known RTÉ presenter and a Rock/Blues singer, even that doesn’t always work out well

sunnysoutheast · 16-01-2019 10:29am

Run a mile.

Junkies who would be living opposite you have been fighting in your front garden! That is not something that a quiet chat over tea and biscuits will resolve.

tigger123 · 16-01-2019 10:43am

bri007 wrote: »

We didn’t sign today, we notified our solicitor and he got the contract signing extended by a week to investigate further.

EA is making contact with owner of house we are sale agreed on to see what her input about it is.

We did some knocking on neighbours doors and appears to be just a trouble member of one particular family. Waiting on Garda to come back to me, friend asked one he knows so hopefully he will give us some more insight. Other than that we will have a good think about it this week and do some more information gathering before we commit any further

Just a note of caution here: the EA's goal right now is to get contracts signed, they can then bank their fee and move on to their next sale. It might be worth considering having your solicitor ask the vendors solicitor these questions instead.

I'm not saying the EA will be dishonest, I'm just saying that their motivations in this are very different to yours.

Also, you can extend the contract signing for way longer than a week. The EA and vendor are not gonna pull the sale that quickly. You're in total control here.

tigger123 · 16-01-2019 10:44am

Also, there's other houses.

secman · 16-01-2019 10:50am

To OP, although you are discreetly trying to get a better picture of the problem , you don't kmow who are friendly with the occupants of the problem house and it may get back to them and be a potentially bigger problem for you.

Just pointing out this potential issue.
Best of luck in your decision, don't envy you.

screamer · 16-01-2019 10:53am

bri007 wrote: »

We didn’t sign today, we notified our solicitor and he got the contract signing extended by a week to investigate further.

EA is making contact with owner of house we are sale agreed on to see what her input about it is.

We did some knocking on neighbours doors and appears to be just a trouble member of one particular family. Waiting on Garda to come back to me, friend asked one he knows so hopefully he will give us some more insight. Other than that we will have a good think about it this week and do some more information gathering before we commit any further

If that’s not enough for you to know that you should run I don’t know what is... Garda I trouble junkies..... imagine trying to sell that house yourself with them next door. Run and buy somewhere else, don’t let the blinkers of getting your own house blind you. A mortgage and a house can turn from a haven to a hellhole with the wrong neighbours.

Mango Joe · 16-01-2019 11:11am

Sorry - Have to say run too, we sold a house years ago cause of Landlords renting to horrible tenants. In retrospect they did us a favour by giving us a push to move on.

Do you want to spend the next 25-30 years working hard to pay your mortgage while this filth lounges around in their pyjamas watching Jeremy Kyle while drinking Tesco beer, injecting heroin and beating their kids?

What area is this? Maybe you can help someone else avoid this trap....

Poll Dubh · 16-01-2019 11:37am

bri007 wrote: »

appears to be just a trouble member of one particular family.

If it's an out of control teenager in an otherwise decent family then chances are the teenager will eventually leave and things will settle down.

Edgware · 16-01-2019 11:54am

Poll Dubh wrote: »

If it's an out of control teenager in an otherwise decent family then chances are the teenager will eventually leave and things will settle down.

How long will that take?
If this teenager has a drug problem it could go on for years. He/she will have other junkie pals calling, will probably need to get funds for his habit and the new neighbours are a handy target.
Read the signs, leave and dont look back

Poll Dubh · 16-01-2019 12:10pm

Edgware wrote: »

How long will that take?
If this teenager has a drug problem it could go on for years. He/she will have other junkie pals calling, will probably need to get funds for his habit and the new neighbours are a handy target.
Read the signs, leave and dont look back

You're right it could take some time. Any family can have a youngster go off the rails. It depends on how the family are dealing with it. The fight witnessed could be the family attempting to reign in the problem person. I don't know if there are other junkie pals coming to visit - there's no indication in previous posts that there is a stream of them landing and the family may have barred them. Finding a new home in Dublin is not that easy. Having an individual like that nearby is definitely concerning but is nowhere as catastrophic as having a family of drug dealers on your doorstep.

Moonjet · 16-01-2019 12:36pm

Vegetarian2017 wrote: »

Sent the OP a dm

Thanks for the update.

malinheader · 16-01-2019 1:14pm

secman wrote: »

To OP, although you are discreetly trying to get a better picture of the problem , you don't kmow who are friendly with the occupants of the problem house and it may get back to them and be a potentially bigger problem for you.

Just pointing out this potential issue.
Best of luck in your decision, don't envy you.

Have to agree here. If it ever got back to them you were asking around about them to see what kind of people they are could end up being a total nightmare. And it always seems to somehow. Not worth the risk.

DEFTLEFTHAND · 16-01-2019 1:19pm

You don't have to apologise for 'drugs bashing'.

Nobody in the right mind would want heroin users/dealers as neighbours.

kravmaga · 16-01-2019 7:33pm

bri007 wrote: »

Hi all,

We have gone sale agreed and signing contracts this week for our house.

We have checked the area inside out over the last 6 months all hours of night and mornings..... all looked great.

Well, this evening we did a drive over as we do many evening planning what we will be/want to do to it once we get the keys.

While we were there, we pulled in outside and two people came out from the house opposite ours and were screaming and shouting and one another. This escalated and then went across into our property to be and got pretty violent. We then decided to get ready to go but we wanted to make sure they weren’t going to damage the house we were buying.

We obviously didn’t get involved but we made out what they were saying. The fight was over heroin and money owed to them. The girls were killing each other until eventually one of the girls got what looked like drugs and went back into the house.

We were shocked, I know this can go on anywhere, but to go on literally in our garden we will be hoping planting trees and plants in in a few weeks time, last thing we want is syringes in the garden.

Is there anything anyone could advise we could do, obviously they haven’t done anything to us other than that and don’t want to start off getting in bad books with them but we are very concerned now.

We love the area and know this can happen anywhere but we don’t want it on our doorstep and especially in our own garden!

Thanks, and I’m not drugs bashing by any means, just don’t want it at my

front door.

Where is the area in question/location? is it a private estate or a council estate?
If anything their behaviour is going to get worse until they get kicked out by the landlord or an ASBO order from AGS.

Maybe thats why the owner of the house you have gone sale agreed with moved out in the 1st place, I wouldnt want to be living across the road from drug abusers.

handlemaster · 16-01-2019 8:36pm

OP I Would not sign. Plain and simple. Move on and.count yourself Lucky to have been there at the time it happened. Its very innocent of you to think planting a few trees would hid you from the issue.

snickers · 16-01-2019 9:01pm

You cannot choose your neighbors no matter we’re you go you will get good and bad you said you visited many times over a 6 month period and this was the only thing you observed so chances are it was an isolated incident but at they end of the day this is the biggest purchase you will probably ever make so trust your gut instinct if it doesn’t feel right walk away .

Sono · 16-01-2019 9:04pm

Unless this is your absolute dream home for life this is a no brainer and even if it is it’s still a no brainer, you have to pull the plug on this deal.

I understand you’re probably frustrated at trying to find a home but take this as a blessing and move onto the next home.

There will be others that’s for sure...

CollyFlower · 17-01-2019 12:59am

Wow, what a dilemma, you could be living beside sober teenagers, kids/gangs sitting on your wall at all hours, I don't know what would be worse... If it's a mature/settled area and all the other neighbors are OK it could be worth buying, if not, then maybe you should pull out of the sale.

theteal · 18-01-2019 12:59pm

It's good that the OP is not rushing it. Like others here I feel I'd run a mile too but that's easy to say as we don't know the particulars in actual detail.

What I would say to the OP, don't let the fact that you have spent a few hundred quid already sway you into following through with this. If this place turns out bad, that could be the best money you've ever spent.

We had to pull out of a sale at signing (we actually had the contracts in our possession for a week, mulling it over) and while it did cost quite a bit in fees/searches etc, over a grand iirc, it worked out to be a very good decision, we're in a considerably better position now.

El_Bee · 21-01-2019 12:46pm

I look at this story and I see how it would be like if we tried to sell, run a mile and don't look back, there will be other houses in better areas, also don't trust the neighbours, you don't know who's friends/relatives with who, try to find out their names and look them up on social media, it should give you a clearer picture.

italodisco · 21-01-2019 1:09pm

Cypher_sounds wrote: »

Go over across the road, knock on the door and see what they’re like.

Otna bad idea, go over intro yourself, tell them you're thinking of buyi g that house and ask them if they're aware of any issues or things to be aware of etc, be friendly and chatty..... Get an idea from that what they're like.

You'll be surprised, they won't bite but at least it might help you get and idea about them.

They may not be any trouble at all, might just je 1 arse in the family

ELM327 · 21-01-2019 1:12pm

italodisco wrote: »

Otna bad idea, go over intro yourself, tell them you're thinking of buyi g that house and ask them if they're aware of any issues or things to be aware of etc, be friendly and chatty..... Get an idea from that what they're like.

You'll be surprised, they won't bite but at least it might help you get and idea about them.

They may not be any trouble at all, might just je 1 arse in the family

+1
And if they are rude etc then you know the caliber of people there and it makes your decision easier!

Rackstar · 21-01-2019 1:13pm

Radio silence from OP. I'd imagine they're going ahead with purchase.

23-01-2019 10:54pm

Rackstar wrote: »

Radio silence from OP. I'd imagine they're going ahead with purchase.

Fair enough if they are and if they haven't also fair enough- they've informed themselves- that's the main thing.

Rackstar · 23-01-2019 11:03pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Fair enough if they are and if they haven't also fair enough- they've informed themselves- that's the main thing.

Can just picture the OP getting mixed up with Renton, Begbie, Spud, Sick boy etc :pac:

24-01-2019 1:30am

Rackstar wrote: »

Can just picture the OP getting mixed up with Renton, Begbie, Spud, Sick boy etc :pac:

Big assumption and their decision still

Sono · 24-01-2019 8:33am

Rackstar wrote: »

Radio silence from OP. I'd imagine they're going ahead with purchase.

Not good alright, the resounding response on this thread was possibly ignored, I hope he doesn’t live to regret this decision if in fact the OP did go through with it.

Irish_rat · 24-01-2019 9:27am

The OP would be insane to sign contracts. Emotionally attached to property is not a good thing.

Black_Knight · 24-01-2019 10:57am

Rackstar wrote: »

Radio silence from OP. I'd imagine they're going ahead with purchase.

They've developed a heroin addiction and pulled out of the sale to spend their deposit on heroin... Good thing the dodged the house though. :pac:

bri007 · 24-01-2019 12:44pm

I didn’t post an update as I didn’t have one to update you all until this morning.

We have decided to pull out of the sale, we are looking at another house in a different area but close to where we work so it’s all good. Just considering how much to offer for it. If not we will wait until a few months or the summer before jumping in again.

Thanks for all the help and advice folks

Graham · 24-01-2019 1:34pm

Best of luck OP, glad to hear you came to a conclusion you're comfortable with.

As there's little to be added, thread closed.

Just bought house- concerning neighbor behavior

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