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Irish Championship Tipping Competition

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  • #102
    sodacat11
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,300 ✭✭✭sodacat11


    Rd 5 Sodacat (17pts) Fox draw,,,,,Mustakim win,,,,,,,,,Trisha win


  • #103
    zeitnot
    Registered Users Posts: 271 ✭✭zeitnot


    23 points (of which 12 in round 4).

    Round 5

    Melaugh S draw
    Harding draw
    Fox draw


  • #104
    Rathminor
    Registered Users Posts: 290 ✭✭Rathminor


    Round 5

    Wins for Jacob, Mustakim and Stephen Moran


  • #105
    Tim Harding
    Closed Accounts Posts: 954 ✭✭✭Tim Harding


    One draw correctly predicted today (3 pts), no landmines, so I have 4 points now.
    I should have made some braver predictions evidently.
    Hoping to catch up, I will try for tomorrow:

    Round 5.
    Wins for Shane Melaugh, Peter Cafolla, Stephen Moran


  • #106
    cdeb
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,265 Mod ✭✭✭✭cdeb


    cdeb wrote: »
    For round 4, I'll go all in with a win for G Melaugh v Butler, for Lyons v Cafolla, and for Byrne v Flynn.
    Read em and weep - 18 points! :pac:


  • #107
    cdeb
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,265 Mod ✭✭✭✭cdeb


    Tim Harding wrote: »
    One draw correctly predicted today (3 pts), no landmines, so I have 4 points now.
    Alas Lyons-Cafolla the draw was a landmine - won by the lower-rated player, so a deduction of 3 points drops you back to 1.
    sodacat11 wrote: »
    Rd 5 Sodacat (17pts)
    I have you on 11 points, not 17. Difference is the Jonathan O'Connor draw v Henry Li (actually won by the lower-rated player, so -3), the -3 for Alice to draw today.
    Soda_Bread wrote: »
    Rd 4, 9 points
    Likewise, I have you on 3 points, not 9. Is it the unknown Moran win in round 3 which is the difference?

    zeitnot, alicechristina, Retd.LoyolaCpt and anchor4208 have all posted their scores after the round, which agree with mine. So table after round 4 to follow now.


  • #108
    cdeb
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,265 Mod ✭✭✭✭cdeb


    Standings after round 4. As before, if your score looks wrong, let me know
    Pos	Poster	        1	2	3	Total	Op bal	Score
1	cdeb	        6	6	6	18	9	27
2	FourNaanJeremy	6	-3	0	3	21	24
3	zeitnot	        3	6	3	12	11	23
4	FMtoog	        6	6	-6	6	16	22
4	En Passant	0	6	6	12	10	22
6	Shanemelaugh	6	3	3	12	8	20
7	spidersweb	0	0	1	1	17	18
7	alicechristina	3	6	-3	6	12	18
9	Retd.LoyolaCpt	6	-3	-3	0	15	15
10	Gavinm21	-3	0	0	-3	15	12
10	checknraise	0	-3	0	-3	15	12
12	Sodacat11	6	3	-3	6	5	11
13	ishidaogo	6	0	0	6	3	9
14	anchor4208	-3	3	6	6	2	8
15	L1m1tless	6	0	-3	3	4	7
16	Soda_Bread	6	0	-3	3	3	6
17	Rathminor	6	-3	-3	0	3	3
18	Tim Harding	-3	0	3	0	1	1
18	murphygambit	-3	0	3	0	1	1

    Round 5 draw is here.

    I'll go a draw for Murray v Daly, a draw for Fox v Butler, and a win for O'Connell v Wallace.


  • #109
    Shanemelaugh
    Registered Users Posts: 22 ✭Shanemelaugh


    Rd5
    Fox draw butler
    Conor draw Lopez
    Mustakim win


  • #110
    EnPassant
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 277 ✭✭EnPassant


    R5

    Wins for Anthony Fox, Tim Harding and Gerry O'Connell.


  • #111
    sodacat11
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,300 ✭✭✭sodacat11


    Tim Harding wrote: »
    One draw correctly predicted today (3 pts), no landmines, so I have 4 points now.
    I should have made some braver predictions evidently.
    Hoping to catch up, I will try for tomorrow:

    Round 5.
    Wins for Shane Melaugh, Peter Cafolla, Stephen Moran

    Well you have certainly made a brave prediction today.Triple points(3) for Tim if I win!!


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  • #112
    sodacat11
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,300 ✭✭✭sodacat11


    EnPassant wrote: »
    R5

    Wins for Anthony Fox, Tim Harding and Gerry O'Connell.

    Funniest predictions I've ever seen :pac: I predict -5 for you tomorrow.


  • #113
    L1m1tless
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 2,165 Mod ✭✭✭✭L1m1tless


    R5
    Win Trisha
    Win Fox
    Win Haque Mustakim-Ul


  • #114
    spidersweb
    Registered Users Posts: 222 ✭✭spidersweb


    Rd5
    Conor o Donnell win against Alex Lopez
    Kanyamarala Tarun draw Sam Collins
    Peter Carroll win against Harding


  • #115
    anchor4208
    Registered Users Posts: 104 ✭✭anchor4208


    Running total; 8
    Round 5
    Daly 0-1 Murray
    Alice O'Gorman 0-1 Mustakim Ul Haq
    Cafolla 0-1 Flynn


  • #116
    FourNaanJeremy
    Registered Users Posts: 8 ✭FourNaanJeremy


    Cafolla 0-1 Flynn
    Alice 1/2 - 1/2 Mustakim
    Butler 1/2- 1/2 Fox


  • #117
    Tim Harding
    Closed Accounts Posts: 954 ✭✭✭Tim Harding


    sodacat11 wrote: »
    Well you have certainly made a brave prediction today.Triple points(3) for Tim if I win!!

    Thanks; I wanted to encourage you. It's not nice when everyone says you will lose.

    Actually I was going to raise another point.
    I think the landmine penalties should not apply when ratings are close - say 50 points or less between the players? As it stands I would lose 6 points if Jacob beats you but you are only 2 FIDE points higher than him.

    Boards 13 and 18 are also quite close on rating today and this is liable to happen more and more towards the end of the tournament,


  • #118
    EnPassant
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 277 ✭✭EnPassant


    Tim Harding wrote: »
    Thanks; I wanted to encourage you. It's not nice when everyone says you will lose.

    Actually I was going to raise another point.
    I think the landmine penalties should not apply when ratings are close - say 50 points or less between the players? As it stands I would lose 6 points if Jacob beats you but you are only 2 FIDE points higher than him.

    Boards 13 and 18 are also quite close on rating today and this is liable to happen more and more towards the end of the tournament,


    As per pdemp's recent analysis, maybe a higher-rated player with black should be counted as a lower-rated player if the rating difference is less than 50 points. And vice versa...


  • #119
    Soda_Bread
    Registered Users Posts: 24 ✭Soda_Bread


    Rd 5, 12 points
    (9+6+0-3)

    O'Donnell - Lopez 1/2-1/2
    Butler - Fox 1/2-1/2
    Moran - McCarthy 1-0


  • #120
    butchpotato
    Registered Users Posts: 1 ✭butchpotato


    Round 5

    Butler v Fox draw
    Kennedy v Lyons draw
    Trisha v Fitzsimons draw


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  • #121
    ishidaogo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 172 ✭✭ishidaogo


    9Both points


    Round 5


    wins for Both Tims and David M


  • #122
    alicechristina
    Registered Users Posts: 23 ✭alicechristina


    round 5
    18 points

    Win for Jacob

    fox vs butler draw

    Kennedy vs Lyons draw


  • #123
    sodacat11
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,300 ✭✭✭sodacat11


    cdeb wrote: »
    I'm going to have to call a steward's enquiry here. There's two Morans - Stephen won (6 points) but Darragh drew (-1)

    I'm inclined to give a void tip (0 points)

    sodacat - any thoughts?
    Agreed


  • #124
    FMtoog
    Registered Users Posts: 30 ✭FMtoog


    Note: round 4 I was given -6 for predicting Darragh beating Alice which happened so it should be +6
    Jacob Flynn wins
    Alice O'Gorman draws
    David Murray wins


  • #125
    Gavinm21
    Registered Users Posts: 13 ✭Gavinm21


    RD5
    Moran beat Brady
    Trisha beat fitzsimons
    Flynn beat cafolla


  • #126
    checknraise
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 285 ✭✭checknraise


    Round 5

    Conor O'Donnell win
    Daragh Moran Win
    Jacob Flynn Win


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  • #127
    murphygambit
    Registered Users Posts: 7 ✭murphygambit


    Points 1
    O Donnell draw
    Gavin draw
    Killian draw


  • #128
    EnPassant
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 277 ✭✭EnPassant


    EnPassant wrote: »
    R5

    Wins for Anthony Fox, Tim Harding and Gerry O'Connell.
    sodacat11 wrote: »
    Funniest predictions I've ever seen :pac: I predict -5 for you tomorrow.


    Fox has drawn already :( ... But at least Gerry is +7 :)


  • #129
    Retd.LoyolaCpt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 627 ✭✭✭Retd.LoyolaCpt


    EnPassant wrote: »
    Fox has drawn already :( ... But at least Gerry is +7 :)

    A fairly Foxy draw it was too... -2.5, better make sure of the half point.

    Strange mistake from Paul in that game, can't imagine what he missed before playing B*f6


  • #130
    cdeb
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,265 Mod ✭✭✭✭cdeb


    Tim Harding wrote: »
    Actually I was going to raise another point.
    I think the landmine penalties should not apply when ratings are close - say 50 points or less between the players? As it stands I would lose 6 points if Jacob beats you but you are only 2 FIDE points higher than him.
    I think there's a danger of making the scoring too complicated. I can barely get it right myself as it is. Case in point -
    FMtoog wrote: »
    Note: round 4 I was given -6 for predicting Darragh beating Alice which happened so it should be +6
    Correct; mistake on my part. So you also score a perfect 18 and go clear at the top.

    I think so long as the rules are the same for everyone, then the competition is fair. There's no need to be complicating it to rule on what exactly an upset is.


  • #131
    sodacat11
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,300 ✭✭✭sodacat11


    cdeb wrote: »
    I think there's a danger of making the scoring too complicated. I can barely get it right myself as it is. Case in point -


    Correct; mistake on my part. So you also score a perfect 18 and go clear at the top.

    I think so long as the rules are the same for everyone, then the competition is fair. There's no need to be complicating it to rule on what exactly an upset is.

    The organizing committee , me and my dog Jethro, will review the scoring next season if I haven't retired from chess before then :(


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  • #132
    Tim Harding
    Closed Accounts Posts: 954 ✭✭✭Tim Harding


    Since all my predictions were wrong again it doesn't really matter to me what the rules are (wooden spoon beckons again), but they do seem too complicated.

    It should be simpler next time, more like the old Treble Chance on the football pools, if anyone remembers that.

    Players should just pick (say) 5 games, not saying what result they expect.

    Home wins (=High rated player wins) scored 1
    Away wins (i.e. Lower rated player wins) scored 2
    Draws used to score 3 but then they started to distinguish between score and no score draws,

    For the tipping competition, draws should be 2 and "Away" wins maybe 4 or 5, perhaps a sliding scale depending on the rating difference.


  • #133
    sodacat11
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,300 ✭✭✭sodacat11


    Do me a favour Tim and tip my next four opponents to beat me!
    We can stick with the present scoring system for this year, I will modify it next year. I scored 9 today, Fox to draw is always a banker.


  • #134
    Retd.LoyolaCpt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 627 ✭✭✭Retd.LoyolaCpt


    Making the Fox draw an illegal pick would be my suggestion (although it did win me the competition last time)


  • #135
    Tim Harding
    Closed Accounts Posts: 954 ✭✭✭Tim Harding


    Retd.LoyolaCpt wrote: »
    Making the Fox draw an illegal pick would be my suggestion (although it did win me the competition last time)

    OK, before it's banned, I am picking a Fox draw for round 6.

    I am still on 1 point I think. Need a boost.

    Second pick, by special request of the management, is Alice to beat Peter.

    Third pick: Tarun to draw with Conor Murphy.


  • #136
    Retd.LoyolaCpt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 627 ✭✭✭Retd.LoyolaCpt


    3+3+6 for me today

    RLC (27)

    Jacob Win
    Gavin win
    Brady- Baburin draw


  • #137
    Joedryan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 479 ✭✭Joedryan


    sodacat11 wrote: »
    Do me a favour Tim and tip my next four opponents to beat me!
    We can stick with the present scoring system for this year, I will modify it next year. I scored 9 today, Fox to draw is always a banker.


    The Irish Petrosian


  • #138
    sodacat11
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,300 ✭✭✭sodacat11


    Joedryan wrote: »
    The Irish Petrosian
    More like Lalic. Petrosian became world champ .


  • #139
    Joedryan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 479 ✭✭Joedryan


    sodacat11 wrote: »
    More like Lalic. Petrosian became world champ .

    The Irish Bogdan then, think he'll settle for that :)

    Drew with S Brady in the last rd when I was needed him to for my first Irish ch, so he'll always be a Petrosian in my books :)


  • #140
    sodacat11
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,300 ✭✭✭sodacat11


    Sodacat (20) Tarun, Trisha and Flynn to win in rd 6


  • #141
    zeitnot
    Registered Users Posts: 271 ✭✭zeitnot


    26 points.

    Rd 6:

    Trisha K draw v Delaney
    Flynn win v Kennedy
    AOG draw v Cafolla


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  • #142
    L1m1tless
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 2,165 Mod ✭✭✭✭L1m1tless


    Round 6
    Stephen Moran Win
    Tarun Win
    Jacob Win


  • #143
    EnPassant
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 277 ✭✭EnPassant


    +1 in R5 (-5, 0, +6) giving 19.

    R6 Wins for Tarun Kanyamarala, Colm Daly and Trisha Kanyamarala


  • #144
    Shanemelaugh
    Registered Users Posts: 22 ✭Shanemelaugh


    Rd6
    Gavin win
    Sean murphy draw fox
    Flynn draw Kennedy
    Lost how many points I’m on so if someone knows let me know


  • #145
    cdeb
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,265 Mod ✭✭✭✭cdeb


    Didn't get time to post a table yesterday, but keep putting up your scores if you remember them and I'll check any discrepancies this evening

    In the meantime, I'll go a draw Cafolla v O'Gorman, a win for McCarthy v Melaugh, and a win for Trisha v Delaney


  • #146
    cdeb
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,265 Mod ✭✭✭✭cdeb


    That sounds more like a certain Latvian GM...


  • #147
    Soda_Bread
    Registered Users Posts: 24 ✭Soda_Bread


    Rd 6, 12 points

    Cafolla 0-1 A. O'Gorman
    O'Connell 0-1 G. Melaugh
    O'Connor 0-1 Carroll


  • #148
    spidersweb
    Registered Users Posts: 222 ✭✭spidersweb


    Rd6
    Sam Collins to draw with Joe Ryan

    Henry Li to win against Alex Byrne

    Kanyamarala Trisha to win against Killian Delaney


  • #149
    Gavinm21
    Registered Users Posts: 13 ✭Gavinm21


    Lyons to beat Harding
    Trishaw to beat Delaney
    Tarun to beat Murphy
    RD 6


  • #150
    checknraise
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 285 ✭✭checknraise


    Rd6

    Jacob Flynn win
    Darragh Moran win
    Fox win(bring on the minus points)


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  • #151
    FMtoog
    Registered Users Posts: 30 ✭FMtoog


    Rd6
    Cafolla - O'Gorman 0-1
    Flynn - Kennedy 1-0
    Delaney - Kanyamarala 0-1


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