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UFC 247: Jones vs Reyes

  • 05-02-2020 10:21pm
    #1
    Axwell
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 10,462 Mod ✭✭✭✭Axwell


    Mailburners post from other thread.


    Usual times 11.15/1.0/3.0 BT SPORTS 2


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    Can't wait for this...Reyes I think has a chance but I don't think he's
    quite ready for the puzzle that is jon jones just yet.
    Could see him picking up a round, two at a push...


    I like Katlyns confidence but I just can't see how she beats the second best fighter in the worlds...Valentino by murder

    Latifi has a shot for me even though a big underdog

    Two title fights but I don't see the womens one being much of a contest.
    Rest of it looks weak enough, prelims as weak as I've seen for a ppv card and not a whole lot better/worse than the mc gregor cowboy card

    Who will win both titles? 48 votes

    Jones by KO
    0%
    Jones by Sub
    12%
    [Deleted User]MellorAxwellsrfc d16charleseirePyreOfHellfire 6 votes
    Jones by Pts
    0%
    Reyes by KO
    37%
    mailburnerxtal191callaway92eurokevRezidentmcgucc22hawaii501Zero-CoolderfderfMr. ManagerriceroASOTrickyjbGamb!tWrongway1985akelly02PorthallianUS2 18 votes
    Reyes by Sub
    10%
    mayordeniscalifanosmilerf[Deleted User]SlowBlowin 5 votes
    Reyes by Pts
    0%
    Shevchenko by KO
    2%
    jousting with chairs 1 vote
    Shevchenko by Sub
    25%
    mailburnercallaway92Axwelleurokevmcgucc22Mr. ManagerASOTsrfc d16jousting with chairsPorthallianUS2PyreOfHellfire 12 votes
    Shevchenko by Pts
    2%
    Wrongway1985 1 vote
    Chookagian by KO
    10%
    califanoxtal191Rezidentsmilerfderfderf 5 votes
    Chookagian by Sub
    0%
    Chookagian by Pts
    0%


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  • #2
    Axwell
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 10,462 Mod ✭✭✭✭Axwell


    Shevchenko by Sub
    Mod: Poll fixed.


  • #3
    Porthallian
    Registered Users Posts: 2,353 ✭✭✭Porthallian


    Shevchenko by Sub
    Honestly it looks weaker than the McGregor V Cowboy card. Or equally bad anyway.
    Not much interest in ANY of the prelims.

    Bektic v Ige has FOTN potential.
    Think Black Beast will be far too powerful for Latifi.
    Juan Adams. Meh.
    Valentina steamrolls Chookagian.
    Jones outpoints and outsmarts Reyes.


  • #4
    Still Ill
    Registered Users Posts: 1,435 ✭✭✭Still Ill


    Tough to get excited about a Jon Jones card. Unless he actually loses. Then I'll be retroactively excited.


  • #5
    ricero
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,348 ✭✭✭✭ricero


    Reyes by KO
    Better card than McGregor thats for sure.

    Looking forward to the main event I actually think Reyes has a decent chance but I fancy Jones by decision.


  • #6
    Mellor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,598 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Jones by Sub
    ricero wrote: »
    Better card than McGregor thats for sure.
    You really think so? Seems a bit forced tbh.

    Which fights do you find interesting? (outside of Jones and Valentina obviously)


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  • #7
    theteal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,593 ✭✭✭theteal


    What are the chances of him being beaten?
    I don't know anything about Reyes apart from the 12/0 headline but I happen across a face-off pic yesterday and he looked taller which is a nice change for Jones opponent. I can't watch anything Jones related so I'll be avoiding this, it'd be good if he got a spanking though.


  • #8
    ricero
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,348 ✭✭✭✭ricero


    Reyes by KO
    Mellor wrote: »
    You really think so? Seems a bit forced tbh.

    Which fights do you find interesting? (outside of Jones and Valentina obviously)

    Always love watching shevchenko and black beast fighting is also always fun


  • #9
    Fox Thousands Orate
    Posts: 13,688 ✭✭✭✭ Fox Thousands Orate


    Reyes by Sub
    Hopefully a Reyes KO.


    I fancy the Decision Queen Chookagian to win...via decision.


  • #10
    The Nal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,009 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    Valentina the pick of tonight for me Love watching her fights


  • #11
    Mellor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,598 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Jones by Sub
    ricero wrote: »
    Always love watching shevchenko and black beast fighting is also always fun
    Yeah, Shevchenko is probably most exciting female to watch. Black beast is either great or gasses out. But after than I think it takes a nose dive fast. Probably just catch the main card.


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  • #12
    Rezident
    Registered Users Posts: 1,802 ✭✭✭Rezident


    Chookagian by KO
    20% think Reyes will beat Jones, how and why?


  • #13
    Rezident
    Registered Users Posts: 1,802 ✭✭✭Rezident


    Chookagian by KO
    Also, an even longer shot: but is anywhere likely to be showing the fight in town tonight? Could get dragged to leeson st. later but I really want to see the fight, I was just going to go home early instead but it could be a great night.


  • #14
    US2
    Registered Users Posts: 2,651 ✭✭✭US2


    Shevchenko by Sub
    Jones , Shevchenko and Lewis all by decision 38/1


  • #15
    Mellor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,598 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Jones by Sub
    Rezident wrote: »
    20% think Reyes will beat Jones, how and why?

    For what it’s worth the bookies think he has a 20% chance of winning also.


  • #16
    Still Ill
    Registered Users Posts: 1,435 ✭✭✭Still Ill


    Rezident wrote: »
    Also, an even longer shot: but is anywhere likely to be showing the fight in town tonight? Could get dragged to leeson st. later but I really want to see the fight, I was just going to go home early instead but it could be a great night.

    Which fight do you want to watch? The main card doesn't start til 3AM.


  • #17
    Still Ill
    Registered Users Posts: 1,435 ✭✭✭Still Ill


    Quiet in here! No-one bothering with this one?


  • #18
    chips1234
    Registered Users Posts: 1,511 ✭✭✭chips1234


    Still Ill wrote: »
    Quiet in here! No-one bothering with this one?

    watching and laughing at rogan and cruz saying the judges werent even looking at the womens fight in main pre lim, and were just talking to each other instead of watching. not sure lewis won his fight either could be some weird decisions tonight. hoping bektic takes this one.


  • #19
    weemcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,435 ✭✭✭weemcd


    I don't see how you can score the Lewis fight as anything other than rd 1 & rd 3 for Lewis and rd 2 Latifi. Latifi started well in the third, but did no damage, by the end of the round Lewis was landing big punches and could have had him out of there. Zero problem with the scores.

    Hopefully we get a ko here to speed this card up.


  • #20
    chips1234
    Registered Users Posts: 1,511 ✭✭✭chips1234


    weemcd wrote: »
    I don't see how you can score the Lewis fight as anything other than rd 1 & rd 3 for Lewis and rd 2 Latifi. Latifi started well in the third, but did no damage, by the end of the round Lewis was landing big punches and could have had him out of there. Zero problem with the scores.

    Hopefully we get a ko here to speed this card up.

    you're prob right and i was just being swayed by rogan, yep please lets get a quick 1st round ko.


  • #21
    weemcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,435 ✭✭✭weemcd


    Quick KO as I had hoped with the heavies, serious uppercut there from Tafa.

    Shevchenko was absolutely ridiculous there, it was like a professional versus an amateur. Glad the referee stopped it, was only ever gonna go one way. She's ****ing brilliant.


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  • #22
    Still Ill
    Registered Users Posts: 1,435 ✭✭✭Still Ill


    Great first round. Let's go Reyes!


  • #23
    darced
    Registered Users Posts: 7,056 ✭✭✭darced


    I have reyes 3-0, crazy Jon needs a finish.


  • #24
    Still Ill
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    Could be 2-2 tbh


  • #25
    mangobob
    Registered Users Posts: 1,149 ✭✭✭mangobob


    Reyes is 3 - 1 up for me going into the last. But he looks shattered. If he survives this round, he should be the champ.


  • #26
    mangobob
    Registered Users Posts: 1,149 ✭✭✭mangobob


    3 - 2 Reyes for me. I think he has done it.


  • #27
    Still Ill
    Registered Users Posts: 1,435 ✭✭✭Still Ill


    I just think they'll find a way to give round 2/3 to Jones.


  • #28
    darced
    Registered Users Posts: 7,056 ✭✭✭darced


    Jones done very little, lots of forward pressure but completely outstruck and lost the wrestling. It'll still be close though.


  • #29
    Still Ill
    Registered Users Posts: 1,435 ✭✭✭Still Ill


    49-46?!


  • #30
    darced
    Registered Users Posts: 7,056 ✭✭✭darced


    What a joke, Jesus.


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  • #31
    mangobob
    Registered Users Posts: 1,149 ✭✭✭mangobob


    no ****ing way.


  • #32
    Shane St.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,797 ✭✭✭Shane St.


    ****ing joke


  • #33
    hawaii501
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,095 ✭✭✭hawaii501


    Reyes by KO
    How did one judge score that 49-46, just shows you have to stop the champ.
    Will never get a decision against the champ with these judges. Absolute farce.


  • #34
    mangobob
    Registered Users Posts: 1,149 ✭✭✭mangobob


    "I thought I won 1 through 3". Thats because you did.

    **** those judges.


  • #35
    spix
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,577 ✭✭✭spix


    Jon got beaten in every way except endurance but that shouldn't win you a fight. Reyes had all the bigger moments, clearly stunning Jon a few times, landed harder kicks, punches throughout the whole fight.


  • #36
    al87987
    Registered Users Posts: 705 ✭✭✭al87987


    Yeah I'll echo the rest that i thought Reyes won the first 3. Lost the last two but no 10-8's in there.

    Great fight though, would like to see it run back.


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  • #37
    mangobob
    Registered Users Posts: 1,149 ✭✭✭mangobob


    al87987 wrote: »
    Yeah I'll echo the rest that i thought Reyes won the first 3. Lost the last two but no 10-8's in there.

    Great fight though, would like to see it run back.

    You would need a different set of judges though. You could not beat him by decision with a panel of judges like that no matter how many times you ran it back. Unless you manage to finish him.


  • #38
    al87987
    Registered Users Posts: 705 ✭✭✭al87987


    All the judges gave Reyes the first, two gave Jones the 2nd and two gave Jones the 3rd also.

    Think they were maybe influenced a little too much by the forward pressure of Jones, controlled the octagon but was outstruck through three quite clearly for me.

    Rogan and Co. Going off on the judging system and tonights judges now, think they had Reyes winning the first three also.


  • #39
    Mr. Manager
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 11,139 Mod ✭✭✭✭Mr. Manager


    Shevchenko by Sub
    Despite winning my bet, I had Reyes winning. Especially when it was called 49-46.. Crazy judging all night. Gotta feel sorry for Reyes


  • #40
    ASOT
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    Shevchenko by Sub
    The 49-46 was a joke. I had it 2-2 going into the last that Jones won. I'll rewatch it again as it could have been the forward pressure that swayed me in the third. Jon's been in a few stinkers lately I did think this fight was good at all.


  • #41
    Zero-Cool
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    Reyes by KO
    Just watched the fight, Jesus Christ Reyes was robbed of that belt. He clearly won the first 3 in my opinion, Jones had the last 2, thought it was a simple fight to call. ****ing hell, sickened with that result and not because of a dislike for Jones, Reyes was the better man there.


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  • #42
    ERG89
    Registered Users Posts: 11,611 ✭✭✭✭ERG89


    Jones struggling again to beat not exactly elite competition. He's fortunate the light heavyweight division is such a poor division for this long.


  • #43
    Still Ill
    Registered Users Posts: 1,435 ✭✭✭Still Ill


    ERG89 wrote: »
    Jones struggling again to beat not exactly elite competition. He's fortunate the light heavyweight division is such a poor division for this long.

    Really hoping this post doesn't kick off another 'definition of elite' conversation. :pac:


  • #44
    Zero-Cool
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    Reyes by KO
    ERG89 wrote: »
    Jones struggling again to beat not exactly elite competition. He's fortunate the light heavyweight division is such a poor division for this long.

    Reyes looked really good but Jones looked bang average, far from goat.


  • #45
    BanditLuke
    Registered Users Posts: 2,600 ✭✭✭BanditLuke


    Zero-Cool wrote: »
    Just watched the fight, Jesus Christ Reyes was robbed of that belt. He clearly won the first 3 in my opinion, Jones had the last 2, thought it was a simple fight to call. ****ing hell, sickened with that result and not because of a dislike for Jones, Reyes was the better man there.

    Agreed, thought Reyes was superb and deserved the victory.


  • #46
    ERG89
    Registered Users Posts: 11,611 ✭✭✭✭ERG89


    Still Ill wrote: »
    Really hoping this post doesn't kick off another 'definition of elite' conversation. :pac:

    Reyes' biggest win was against Weidman who's won 1 fight since May, 2015 & has been finished in every other fight. (Most at middleweight)
    Santos beat Anders, Manuwa & Blachowicz which isn't exactly a killers row. It might be one of the easiest routes to a title fight you will get, bar Aldo getting a shot after losing to Moraes.

    Zero-Cool wrote: »
    Reyes looked really good but Jones looked bang average, far from goat.

    Wonder what his picogram count will be??


  • #47
    mdwexford
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,280 ✭✭✭✭mdwexford


    Latifi was so boring it was unbelievable.

    Valentina is so awesome to watch. Love to see her go up again and take out Nunes.

    Reyes definitely won the first two rounds.
    Jones won the last two.
    That middle round is the fight decider imo. It was a very close fight.

    Shocked two judges gave Jones round two and the 4-1 Jones guy is obviously a numbskull. Reyes takedown defence and ability to get back up was really impressive. Real pity he didn’t have some five round experience. If he had more gas in the tank those last two rounds Jones was in big trouble. There was nothing behind Reyes shots in rounds four and five.


  • #48
    Mellor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,598 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Jones by Sub
    Rounds 1,2,4,5 were clear cut.
    Round 3 was the decider and I gave it to Reyes. Could see how a judge could go the other way though.
    The 4-1 scorecard and unanimous decision will make it go down as a bigger robbery than it was.


  • #49
    Rezident
    Registered Users Posts: 1,802 ✭✭✭Rezident


    Chookagian by KO
    So relieved Jones won after foolishly lumping on him and I love Jon Jones but I thought Reyes won the fight. I thought Reyes won the first three rounds. Jones won the last two and Reyes was backing off for those two but he was well ahead by then..

    I need to rewatch it, but at the time I thought Reyes did more to win it.


  • #50
    xtal191
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    Chookagian by KO
    https://twitter.com/John_Kavanagh/status/1226564468622098432


  • #51
    PyreOfHellfire
    Closed Accounts Posts: 146 ✭✭PyreOfHellfire


    Shevchenko by Sub
    Can't remember which fight it was exactly but Rogan and Cruz were calling out the judges long before the main card began because they weren't looking at the fight. Rogan even pointed out that it had been a solid minute since they looked up from the desk and him and Cruz kept referring to the judges all night. I think they were boxing judges aswell because a fight went to the ground and Rogan remarked that the judges won't know how to score grappling exchanges since they've never done it before. Texas really has a reputation for poor judges and a poor commission.


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