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Rebuilding Ireland home loan

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  • Registered Users Posts: 82 ✭✭3283winnie


    Wondering if anyone has a guide on time so I applied in March was sent to the housing agency the end of March I have rang sdcc to ask for an update I have been asked to send new payslips and bank statements any idea how long more after this or what the next step is thanks


  • Registered Users Posts: 8 GizmoIE


    No, it's a bit of a pain in the arse for Dublin in particular - you can only buy in the catchment of the council who approves your loan. That means for Dublin you probably have to apply to the three different councils and SDCC in particular takes 6+ months to approve.

    You can only apply to four councils at most iirc too
    About the 6 months, as far as i know, same practice in other banks, they need to see let's call it "positive tendency" on your account, at least one of the broker was explaining that somewhere :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 130 ✭✭deise121


    GizmoIE wrote: »
    About the 6 months, as far as i know, same practice in other banks, they need to see let's call it "positive tendency" on your account, at least one of the broker was explaining that somewhere :)

    what's the point of sending in a year's worth of banking statements if they're just going to do that then?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3 c.m.a


    Hi

    Has anyone recently been bought a house recently with Wicklow county council? I am wondering what documents they will ask for drawdown stage?
    Thanks


  • Registered Users Posts: 18 89char9


    Hey, I've been saving but I had to withdraw some money from my savings. Since I withdrew the money I've continued to save and will have the 30%of the deposit saved when I apply. I'm just wondering if that time I withdrew some of my savings will be a problem. Anyone know? Thank you in advance.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,169 ✭✭✭diceyreilly


    89char9 wrote: »
    Hey, I've been saving but I had to withdraw some money from my savings. Since I withdrew the money I've continued to save and will have the 30%of the deposit saved when I apply. I'm just wondering if that time I withdrew some of my savings will be a problem. Anyone know? Thank you in advance.

    No one can no for certain. Once you have your deposit saved I don’t see why it should be a problem.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,090 ✭✭✭jill_valentine


    GizmoIE wrote: »
    About the 6 months, as far as i know, same practice in other banks, they need to see let's call it "positive tendency" on your account, at least one of the broker was explaining that somewhere :)

    Ah just to clarify - I mean SDCC literally take six months or more to approve you. I submitted my application 3rd of Feb, as of last week it still hadn't even gone to the Credit Committee.


  • Registered Users Posts: 16 LaurenMcHugh


    c.m.a wrote: »
    Hi

    Has anyone recently been bought a house recently with Wicklow county council? I am wondering what documents they will ask for drawdown stage?
    Thanks

    Hey, we’re just waiting on Wicklow coco to release funds this week. We were asked for last 3 payslips , proof of funds and letters from work stating we don’t receive any subsidies due to the pandemic.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3 c.m.a


    Hey, we’re just waiting on Wicklow coco to release funds this week. We were asked for last 3 payslips , proof of funds and letters from work stating we don’t receive any subsidies due to the pandemic.

    Perfect thanks. We are signing contracts this week . Vendor is getting fed up waiting on us because the whole process is so slow. Can I ask how long it has been for you from signing contracts to drawdown ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 16 LaurenMcHugh


    c.m.a wrote: »
    Perfect thanks. We are signing contracts this week . Vendor is getting fed up waiting on us because the whole process is so slow. Can I ask how long it has been for you from signing contracts to drawdown ?

    We signed contracts on the 9th June and then we both had to have telephone interviews for the Mortgage Protection which slowed us down and then I had to wait on hospital results which slowed us down again. And then the funds are being released Thursday so not too bad considering we had a few bumps in the road


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3 c.m.a


    We signed contracts on the 9th June and then we both had to have telephone interviews for the Mortgage Protection which slowed us down and then I had to wait on hospital results which slowed us down again. And then the funds are being released Thursday so not too bad considering we had a few bumps in the road

    Thank you for the info , hopefully it will be just as quick for us too .So worth it when you get to the end .Good luck in your new home.


  • Registered Users Posts: 16 LaurenMcHugh


    c.m.a wrote: »
    Thank you for the info , hopefully it will be just as quick for us too .So worth it when you get to the end .Good luck in your new home.

    No problem. The Revenue side of things seem to be a lot faster at handling things than the rest of process. Thanks you too!


  • Registered Users Posts: 130 ✭✭deise121


    Who do we contact about finding out if the limits for these loans are being raised? Every house in my area has a starting price of between 230k and 250k. I'm going to be outbid on ****ing everything once we're approved. Surely they'll be changing the loan amount due to the current real estate market?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,526 ✭✭✭✭Darkglasses


    deise121 wrote: »
    Who do we contact about finding out if the limits for these loans are being raised? Every house in my area has a starting price of between 230k and 250k. I'm going to be outbid on ****ing everything once we're approved. Surely they'll be changing the loan amount due to the current real estate market?

    Your TD or County Councillor, that's a Government decision


  • Registered Users Posts: 130 ✭✭deise121


    Your TD or County Councillor, that's a Government decision

    Anything I’ve ever brought up to any politician has fallen on deaf ears.


  • Registered Users Posts: 32 janandbren


    Anyone know average time cork city council takes for a decision?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,002 ✭✭✭antimatterx


    Why do they ask for an address in the "DETAILS OF PROPERTY TO BE MORTGAGED"? The amount I get will dictate the property I will buy.


  • Registered Users Posts: 130 ✭✭deise121


    Why do they ask for an address in the "DETAILS OF PROPERTY TO BE MORTGAGED"? The amount I get will dictate the property I will buy.

    my local council said to leave it blank


  • Posts: 14,344 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Why do they ask for an address in the "DETAILS OF PROPERTY TO BE MORTGAGED"? The amount I get will dictate the property I will buy.




    It's a bizarre application form. Both the amount you want and the house you want are left blank.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,002 ✭✭✭antimatterx


    It's a bizarre application form. Both the amount you want and the house you want are left blank.

    What hahahaha? That is bizzare.


  • Registered Users Posts: 130 ✭✭deise121


    When the council says the application is with the underwriter, is the underwriter county specific? Or is there one person for the entire country doing all these applications? My application has been with the underwriter for over 6 weeks now with no updates. Every week the council just keep saying I should hear back this week.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7 Barbara1234


    Hi Anyone get recently approved? Waiting 8 weeks now and no reply...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,090 ✭✭✭jill_valentine


    It's a bizarre application form. Both the amount you want and the house you want are left blank.

    Some of the councils will insist you put in a figure "or highest available", but don't worry, they won't advise you of any of this in advance or anything.


  • Posts: 14,344 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Looks like RI interest rates will drop and, more importantly (if im reading it right) the MPI cost will now be built-in to the price of the loan (rather than an extra cost?)


    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/rise-in-income-limit-to-makemore-people-eligible-for-state-mortgage-40613097.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,815 ✭✭✭✭Ace2007


    Looks like RI interest rates will drop and, more importantly (if im reading it right) the MPI cost will now be built-in to the price of the loan (rather than an extra cost?)


    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/rise-in-income-limit-to-makemore-people-eligible-for-state-mortgage-40613097.html
    Under plans being considered as part of the soon-to-be-announced Housing for All plan, the income ceiling for the home-loan scheme will be increased to €65,000 for single people seeking their first mortgage.
    The loans allow people on low to moderate incomes draw down a mortgage from their local authority to buy a new or second-hand home.

    Moderate incomes is now 65k by sounds of it, correct me if i'm wrong on this , but the whole basis of the scheme originally was set up for those on low incomes' that couldn't afford an affordable house, it's been morph now for anyone up to 65k. Your going to end up with those in most need be outbid because of the many thousands that can now be added to it.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 130 ✭✭deise121


    Looks like RI interest rates will drop and, more importantly (if im reading it right) the MPI cost will now be built-in to the price of the loan (rather than an extra cost?)


    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/rise-in-income-limit-to-makemore-people-eligible-for-state-mortgage-40613097.html

    and they're also increasing the income requirements instead of increasing the max value property can be? very little can be bought for for 250k in most areas and 320k in the other areas.


  • Registered Users Posts: 130 ✭✭deise121


    Ace2007 wrote: »
    Moderate incomes is now 65k by sounds of it, correct me if i'm wrong on this , but the whole basis of the scheme originally was set up for those on low incomes' that couldn't afford an affordable house, it's been morph now for anyone up to 65k. Your going to end up with those in most need be outbid because of the many thousands that can now be added to it.

    people that earn 65k can easily get a mortgage unless their finances are in disarray. this loan was for people on low incomes or people who are considered to be low incomes because banks have magic numbers they subtract from salary for having children.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,526 ✭✭✭✭Darkglasses


    Looks like RI interest rates will drop and, more importantly (if im reading it right) the MPI cost will now be built-in to the price of the loan (rather than an extra cost?)


    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/rise-in-income-limit-to-makemore-people-eligible-for-state-mortgage-40613097.html

    Not really - the journalist there is just expressing the MPI as the interest rate (which is inaccurate). The current actual interest rate is 2.995% for 30 year fixed rates, so it can't be "reduced" to 3.05%


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,526 ✭✭✭✭Darkglasses


    It's a bizarre application form. Both the amount you want and the house you want are left blank.

    It's an *awful* form alright. That address field would be used by someone buying out their council house, or maybe doing a family sale, and it's meaningless for everyone else. But of course, they don't just bloody put that on the form to save everyone the confusion.

    It's also quite out of date since it still asks you for a P60 :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,815 ✭✭✭✭Ace2007


    deise121 wrote: »
    people that earn 65k can easily get a mortgage unless their finances are in disarray. this loan was for people on low incomes or people who are considered to be low incomes because banks have magic numbers they subtract from salary for having children.

    So we will have a situation that means those people will be worse off, but we be spun as if it's a good thing this change.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 130 ✭✭deise121


    Ace2007 wrote: »
    So we will have a situation that means those people will be worse off, but we be spun as if it's a good thing this change.

    exactly.

    i haven't felt this depressed in my entire life. we've sent in our application over 8 weeks ago and every week for the past 4 weeks have been told the application is with the underwriters and will hear back this week. meanwhile, housing prices continue to climb and there are exactly 5 houses on daft that haven't gone sale agreed already for under 250k in waterford. what good is this mortgage if it's not suitable for housing prices in the current market?


  • Posts: 14,344 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    deise121 wrote: »
    people that earn 65k can easily get a mortgage unless their finances are in disarray. this loan was for people on low incomes or people who are considered to be low incomes because banks have magic numbers they subtract from salary for having children.

    Yeah I can see that being a problem alright. 65K should, in theory, be plenty for your standard, everyday mortgage.

    It also brings up (to me) the issue of social housing. I've mentioned this before, but the income limits for social housing are very low (single applicant in most of the country making 25k is excluded, in dublin it's 35k). Surely if the government feel that anyone making 65k cant afford a house (without government assistance), they should be increasing the income ceiling on social housing, too?

    Government numbers are all over the place in regards to housing.


  • Registered Users Posts: 256 ✭✭DonnieCorko


    Looking at the salary certificate part of the form, does this really have to be filled out and stamped by the company. I already asked them to do the AIB one. Can I use that instead.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,090 ✭✭✭jill_valentine


    Looking at the salary certificate part of the form, does this really have to be filled out and stamped by the company. I already asked them to do the AIB one. Can I use that instead.

    Depends which council you're applying to. DCC accepted the one my company generates automatically, SDCC would only accept the RI template filled out by my HR people.


  • Registered Users Posts: 28 Benci


    Hi there. Can anyone help me regarding to MPI.
    I have been declined, so I need to seek private Mortgage Protection insurance for myself.
    Can anyone advice on this matter? I go online to find some company then I need to send to my solicitor? Also I don't know yet the drawdown date?
    Thanks in advance.


  • Registered Users Posts: 256 ✭✭DonnieCorko


    Depends which council you're applying to. DCC accepted the one my company generates automatically, SDCC would only accept the RI template filled out by my HR people.

    Cool. That's fine so, thanks for that. Separately, there are some other things I am unsure of if you know I'd appreciate it.

    1) They ask how much did I ask for and get refused for off a bank. I only did the online calculator for the bank. Can I just send in a screenshot of that and say I wanted X amount above it or whatever?

    2) Do I need to get credit union statement if I don't use it? It's a years old account and could be difficult to get a statement.

    3) Did you hand it into the council in person or via post/email? I read they said it could be delayed due to omissions if sent by post which I could see happening as many fields I am unsure of, but equally don't want to spend a day driving around to 4 different council buildings as I am pretty sure I may not be entitled to this yet due to the requirement for saving for one year.

    4) I presume property mortgage details can be left empty? And same for the property cost etc?

    Thanks


  • Registered Users Posts: 1 danckelly


    Not really - the journalist there is just expressing the MPI as the interest rate (which is inaccurate). The current actual interest rate is 2.995% for 30 year fixed rates, so it can't be "reduced" to 3.05%

    Yeah I found that confusing in the article. It makes you wonder whether to hold out to hear if we have the possibility of getting a lower rate or just go with what is approved for. When they say there will be more info in a "couple of weeks", that could be months! On the other side though, if they do actually reduce the current interest rate, it could save a heft chunk of change over time.

    It might entail having to reapply though and it took 4 months to get my approval in the first place...
    Has anyone found more info than the Independent article?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,284 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    Ace2007 wrote: »
    Moderate incomes is now 65k by sounds of it, correct me if i'm wrong on this , but the whole basis of the scheme originally was set up for those on low incomes' that couldn't afford an affordable house, it's been morph now for anyone up to 65k. Your going to end up with those in most need be outbid because of the many thousands that can now be added to it.

    Ya but affordability is gone out the window for someone on 65k. That currently gets you 227k from a bank. You couldn't buy a shed for it in most places.
    The new income limit will allow someone on 65k to borrow about 320k which will get them into the market.
    It's another terrible move though, increasing demand further on a non existent supply.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,815 ✭✭✭✭Ace2007


    rob316 wrote: »
    Ya but affordability is gone out the window for someone on 65k. That currently gets you 227k from a bank. You couldn't buy a shed for it in most places.
    The new income limit will allow someone on 65k to borrow about 320k which will get them into the market.
    It's another terrible move though, increasing demand further on a non existent supply.

    In Dublin perhaps, but outside Dublin you could get some lovely houses on the commuter belt with a mortgage of 227k, which coupled with a deposit of say 30k gives you 257k.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,284 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    Ace2007 wrote: »
    In Dublin perhaps, but outside Dublin you could get some lovely houses on the commuter belt with a mortgage of 227k, which coupled with a deposit of say 30k gives you 257k.

    Obviously not Dublin and you can include cork too.

    We are experiencing serious inflation it's possible wages will have to go up to meet this too.


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  • Posts: 14,344 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    danckelly wrote: »
    It might entail having to reapply though and it took 4 months to get my approval in the first place...
    Has anyone found more info than the Independent article?




    From my reading of the article (and articles like this are a mess as the person writing it rarely cares and is just trying to get something typed and out there) it would appear that even if you've already applied, the new interest rates will apply to any loans that are drawndown upon after whatever date the rates come into effect.


    I'm interested in hearing about it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 130 ✭✭deise121


    Finally got approval from our local council. Credit comittee won't meet until next month, but was notified via email this morning. It's a bit less than what I thought it would be to be honest. They literally only went with by base salary and not with anything on my P60. What's the **** point of sending in your P60 then if no income from that is actually counted? Boils my blood. My P60 from last 5 years is 15k over my base salary.



  • Posts: 14,344 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Out of curiousity, seen as you're working off what they offered being your base salary, can you give an idea as to what multiplier of your salary they offered? Was it just 3.5* or did they offer higher?



  • Registered Users Posts: 130 ✭✭deise121


    it actually appears to be 4.5 times my salary to be honest



  • Registered Users Posts: 7 Barbara1234


    Hi how many weeks you were waiting for approval? Mine 11 weeks and nothing



  • Registered Users Posts: 1 LyleG


    Hi guys so. Jumping on here to share our experience with RI. We count ourselves as the lucky ones I guess as the experience have been relatively straight forward (Apart from South Dublin which we are still waiting). We've applied for a joint mortgage with my girlfriend to every Council in Dublin and are now close to closing a house (Hopefully). The application was straight forward depending on how organized you guys are with preparing the documents needed and replying back to them with any of their queries or additional documents. In order to expedite everything I dropped the additional documents they asked to the actual council as to avoid the delay time of postage and the peace of mind that it has arrived. Our application was well laid out with every single sections separated using post it notes with the title of the paperwork it contained. We Poly pocketed our paperwork in relation to our individual documents. They appreciated that as one email said it helped out with the sorting of our application. It surely didn't hurt making life easier on them as they have to sort through thousands upon thousands of applications.

    Once they were happy they will notify you or you'll have to hound them what the status is on your application. They were more than helpful to cater to any questions we had in relations to our application so I wouldn't expect them to be any different to any of you guys. South Dublin gave us the run around saying it's with the "Committee" for the final evaluation but still no word and this has been more than 6 months. Just be respectful (not saying you people aren't) The councils that got back immediately were DCC with about 2/2.5 months then Fingal with around 3 and as said above we are still waiting for South Dublin. A pity as there were properties we were looking at but couldn't even bid. We also applied for Dun Laoghaire Council because we have nothing to lose and wishful thinking we could afford any property in the area for 320K 😂 , Hey if you don't try, you'll never know. Still awaiting. I assumed the delay was to do with Covid and one person from a council relayed to me that it was.

    I do feel like since this is a scheme they do take more time and really get down with a fine tooth comb on your situation. A lot slower than the bank route anyways but then again RI are giving close to 4.5X/5X your wages. I myself make around 22K and my girlfriend 29K. On the calculator they offered 269K but for DCC and Final they offered less at 249,300.

    For me personally, I think that capping properties at 320K in this climate is a hard ask. Daft and Myhome on refresh and a 3 Bedroom house just seems to get higher and higher during the bidding wars and can go easily past 400K. We were looking at Drimnagh on a Guide price of 295K and when I rang it had gone up to 450K. In one scenario we missed the it by 10K which we would have been able to add using our deposit but unfortunately reached the cap. There is nothing wrong with this scheme per say. It is the current climate of house shortage on the market. My advice to people that are wanting to use this scheme or are in line with their application is to go for it and be patient. We have been trying to close and ran into so many problems on the sellers side but just be patient. I know it can be quite discouraging not hearing back for ages and with the house prices only going higher you are eager and anxious to at least put a bid down but you will get there. Again, I count ourselves as the lucky ones to be in this position.

    This was our experience with it. I can only speak from our side of things. I really hope you guys pull through this and can finally achieve owning your own home.



  • Registered Users Posts: 5 chigg06


    Hi,

    Has anybody had any experience with the MPI underwriting? I had to answer the questions truthfully for the form as I had a prostate infection in 2019/202 and I was on antibiotics for 6 weeks. Nothing serious but I was advised to let them know.

    Does a nurse call you from the underwriters and if so how long does this take and do I need to get any letters from my GP or consultant?

    Would something like this be reasons for rejection or something more medically serious?

    Many thanks in advance! :)



  • Registered Users Posts: 58 ✭✭noler123


    Hi. I've recently got my loan offer from Kildare county council and while I'm delighted to get it, I can't help but wonder will the rate be reduced as part of the Housing For All plans which are supposed to be announced in August.

    https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/rise-in-income-limit-to-makemore-people-eligible-for-state-mortgage-40613097.html

    Presuming the rates are lowered, does anyone know if I haven't actually drawdown the mortgage, would I automatically get the lower rates or would I have to apply all over again?

    For anyone applying to Kildare County Council, I found them great. When I sent in the paperwork I got an email from the council office asking for clarification on a couple of things, around 4 weeks later we had the offer. I know some people had an awful time with them but hopefully they're on top of things now!



  • Registered Users Posts: 170 ✭✭bleaks


    Hi folks,

    Do you need 10% saved of the maximum Rebuilding Ireland will offer you before applying? ie, if they will offer a maximum loan of 288k, do we need evidence of 28.8k in savings accounts prior to applying?



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  • Registered Users Posts: 776 ✭✭✭Jafin


    You need 10% of the actual (expected) property price. So if for example your budget is 320k then you need 32k saved. At least 30% of that has to be from your own savings, and up to 70% can be from unborrowed sources, for example a gift from your parents. You also need to show that you've been saving regularly for at least 12 months. Although it does say in the FAQ on the website that rent payments can be used a form of evidence of savings, since obviously you wouldn't be paying rent if you buy a property.



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