A drill for jobs around the house

IvoryTower · 03-07-2019 12:07pm #1

I'm upping my handyman game and I think it's time to get a drill. I always see drills in Lidl but unsure whether they would be of good quality. The house is old with solid brick walls everywhere, so likely needs to be powerful enough

Any suggestions?

JoeySully · 03-07-2019 3:28pm

for ~€200 you will be a DIY ninja with these 2 !

https://www.ie.screwfix.com/dewalt-dcd776d2t-gb-18v-2-0ah-li-ion-xr-cordless-combi-drill.html

https://www.ie.screwfix.com/titan-ttb278sds-5kg-sds-plus-hammer-drill-230-240v.html

IvoryTower · 03-07-2019 5:11pm

Thanks I'll have a proper look when I get home.

The lidl one is a parkside 20v for 30e

CoBo55 · 03-07-2019 5:14pm

Chorded for me all the way, rechargeable are a pain in the nuts, both batteries are always flat when you want it.

victor8600 · 03-07-2019 5:18pm

CoBo55 wrote: »

Chorded for me all the way, rechargeable are a pain in the nuts, both batteries are always flat when you want it.

I have the 20V rechargeable drill from Lidl (Parkside). In the hammer mode, it drills through concrete just fine and its battery lasts quite a good time (I also have a spare battery).

IvoryTower · 03-07-2019 5:19pm

I do have a huge single extension lead so that could be a runner. Is there any youd recommend?

IvoryTower · 03-07-2019 5:20pm

So could a 30e drill be as good as a 100e drill or do you get what you pay for

Inviere · 03-07-2019 5:21pm

CoBo55 wrote: »

Chorded for me all the way, rechargeable are a pain in the nuts, both batteries are always flat when you want it.

Same, I don’t have a lot of time for rechargeables. I also went and got an sds drill for less than 150, it was literally a game changer for bigger jobs. Still have an old black and decker for easier/softer materials.

victor8600 · 03-07-2019 5:36pm

IvoryTower wrote: »

So could a 30e drill be as good as a 100e drill or do you get what you pay for

It really depends on the intensity of the usage. The €30 one most probably won't suit a professional who needs it every day. But for my occasional DIY jobs, I have not used my large corded drill for a year, since I got the 20V drill.

IvoryTower · 03-07-2019 5:42pm

First job I want to use it for is putting a climbing wall in my son's bedroom. So that'll likely mean drilling into brick wall. Is that something 20v can handle well or should I go bigger. I don't want to be spending 10min on one hole which I have done so before using a friends drill!

victor8600 · 03-07-2019 5:55pm

IvoryTower wrote: »

First job I want to use it for is putting a climbing wall in my son's bedroom. So that'll likely mean drilling into brick wall. Is that something 20v can handle well or should I go bigger. I don't want to be spending 10min on one hole which I have done so before using a friends drill!

If you start drilling, can you ever stop?

I would recommend getting two drills anyway. Buy the rechargeable in Lidl and try it. For walls in my house it is perfectly adequate, but yours could be made of the reinforced concrete, so who knows.

IvoryTower · 03-07-2019 6:04pm

120 year old red brick, solid enough i would say. That might be the way to go alright.

Hoboo · 03-07-2019 6:05pm

Lads if anyone needs a plasterer when you're finished, just shout.

Tell me how · 03-07-2019 6:10pm

CoBo55 wrote: »

Chorded for me all the way, rechargeable are a pain in the nuts, both batteries are always flat when you want it.

Not for me. I've a Makita which holds the charge in batteries for several weeks at least. A fewmDewalt were also used over ten year period with hardly any issues with available power.

Cord is cumbersome and a trip hazard if in use for an extended period. Can't beat the portability of a battery drill.

Drumorig · 03-07-2019 7:03pm

A cheap corded hammer drill from Lidl or aldi is grand for brick. You don't need to spend mad money for diy, burn it out and replace it years later as they are cheap enough.

The new Lidl 20v li ion yokes are pretty decent for the money, they can hold a charge pretty well. I'd go corded for brick though. 100 euro would get you a cordless and corded with a spare battery or near enough.

IvoryTower · 03-07-2019 8:27pm

Just watched video on how to do job and checked wall, its not actually brick, wall was moved at some stage so lidl drill would be fine to start I reckon.

CoBo55 · 03-07-2019 10:50pm

I got a chorded Hitachi on sale in a local farm shop in the depths of the recession, it's brilliant. Father in law got a lend of it he nearly drilled into the neighbours house:eek::eek:

rock22 · 04-07-2019 1:42pm

If you will be using it regularly then a rechargeable might be fine. If it gets left in a tool box for months on end then you will be better with a corded one.

Don't know about the rechargeable one but I got a Parkside corded drill. After little use the drive shaft was loose in the drill. I have a Black and Decker corded drill since 1970 and this has never happened.

An SDS drill might be better for drilling into concrete. I bough this one for about €100 couple a years ago

IvoryTower · 04-07-2019 2:47pm

Thanks

I got the Parkside one to start anyway. First wall I have to do is wood so should be fine. Will get SDS then should I need it when I get to the other walls.

Payton · 04-07-2019 3:04pm

I'm purchasing 1 of these, great price and reliable.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Makita-HR2630-Rotary-Hammer-Drill/dp/B01636IZ0G/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?keywords=makita+sds+drill+240v&qid=1562249002&s=gateway&sprefix=Makita+SDS+Drill+&sr=8-1

Drumorig · 04-07-2019 5:29pm

IvoryTower wrote: »

Thanks

I got the Parkside one to start anyway. First wall I have to do is wood so should be fine. Will get SDS then should I need it when I get to the other walls.

An sds is for drilling into pure concrete with big bits etc you wouldn't need it for diy. Your only drilling into bricks/blocks so your Parkside will be grand, I've a corded one probably the same as yours and it's fine.
Just make sure you use the right bits.

Lumen · 04-07-2019 5:46pm

I was helping/hindering a friend drill into his new build masonry walls the other day, and was surprised that a regular battery drill managed to go through like butter.

Whereas my 1980s block built house requires an SDS.

Is that because those low-density Quinn Lite blocks are being used now?

antiskeptic · 04-07-2019 10:56pm

Tell me how wrote: »

Not for me. I've a Makita which holds the charge in batteries for several weeks at least. A fewmDewalt were also used over ten year period with hardly any issues with available power.

Weeks? More like months (and I've read li-ion should be stored about 40% charge rather than full). Dunno what a lidl type number would do though

Cord is cumbersome and a trip hazard if in use for an extended period. Can't beat the portability of a battery drill.

Corded is to DIY what terry towelling is to nappies.

The OP's redbrick will be a doddle - brick is quite soft. Just make sure not to attach a climbing knob thingy into mortar instead of brick - the mortar will pull out.

antiskeptic · 04-07-2019 10:57pm

Lumen wrote: »

I was helping/hindering a friend drill into his new build masonry walls the other day, and was surprised that a regular battery drill managed to go through like butter.

Whereas my 1980s block built house requires an SDS.

Is that because those low-density Quinn Lite blocks are being used now?

Concrete goes harder over years. Probably the new build walls were built using blocks made a few weeks before.

jack of all · 05-07-2019 11:47am

antiskeptic wrote: »

Concrete goes harder over years. Probably the new build walls were built using blocks made a few weeks before.

May be part of the explanation but I remember in the case of my parents' house (built 40+ years ago) my father remarked that the blocks were exceptionally hard and difficult to cut, drill and chase. Concrete batching and block making was most likely not as scientific as it is now where mixes are designed so possibly more cement was used, denser mixes with more fines, who knows?

looksee · 06-07-2019 10:00am

I work on the basis - buy cheap/decentish - Lidl are fine - and if you do burn it out it won't cost a fortune to replace. I burned out one in my lifetime - using one of those circular blade hole cutters on kitchen countertop. Otherwise for ordinary diy around the house, a corded lidl drill is perfect.

AVFC.Stephen · 06-07-2019 10:10am

I buy Hilti. I bought cheap before and while if you have patience its grand... I just don't like changing tools that I'm use to, dewalt is good blue Bosch even green bosch is ok. Parkside is for a random small job you may do once a month... a decent sds drill is well worth its price in any household

lapua20grain · 06-07-2019 10:18am

The likes of Heiton Buckley will be able to help you don't bother with the likes of woodies or B&Q talk to the experts they will be able to help, I got a dewalt cordless and impact driver set with 2 spare batteries and a charger for â‚¬178 in buckleys in Santry after I spoke to the power tool chap. I bought a Parkside once and it was fine but not great for most jobs the Dewalt has done everything I needed to do and extremely well.

garv123 · 06-07-2019 10:41am

IvoryTower wrote: »

I'm upping my handyman game and I think it's time to get a drill. I always see drills in Lidl but unsure whether they would be of good quality. The house is old with solid brick walls everywhere, so likely needs to be powerful enough

Any suggestions?

Are you looking for a drill just for drilling concrete or one that'll do screws too?

2 drills is a good choice too, an SDS for drilling the concrete and the smaller one for driving screws. I have a smaller parkside drill and its grand for putting in screws and drilling a few holes. I wouldnt go using it for concrete tho, just like I wouldn't try and use and SDS for driving in screws.

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loyatemu · 09-07-2019 11:12am

my experience with Lidl/Aldi is that the batteries don't last and then you can't get replacements.

Last Aldi hammer drill I bought:
Isn't powerful enough to drill concrete (admittedly this is a 1970s house with very hard walls)
the bits work themselves loose from the chuck
battery doesn't last long and it only came with one.

probably worth spending a little more if you're going to be doing a lot of DIY.

09-07-2019 11:16am

loyatemu wrote: »

my experience with Lidl/Aldi is that the batteries don't last and then you can't get replacements.

While I'm not a fan of Aldi tools at all they have started using a single battery system.
Also if your bit is coming loose you are not using the right tool for the job.
You need an SDS drill not one with a key/keyless chuck.

looksee · 09-07-2019 11:27am

loyatemu wrote: »

my experience with Lidl/Aldi is that the batteries don't last and then you can't get replacements.

Last Aldi hammer drill I bought:
Isn't powerful enough to drill concrete (admittedly this is a 1970s house with very hard walls)
the bits work themselves loose from the chuck
battery doesn't last long and it only came with one.

probably worth spending a little more if you're going to be doing a lot of DIY.

I don't think you can refer to Lidl/Aldi in the same breath as far as tools go. Aldi are possibly ahead on food but Lidl's tools and equipment are far superior.

Tell me how · 09-07-2019 11:35am

Seems to be a lot of people with interest and opinions on tools.

I find this guy very interesting. His videos cover a wide range of topics and his style manner is refreshing in a world of 'influencers' who are paid to promote and only tell you how good something is.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLvgS71fU12Mbx-w18Chu_Sg9v6loipEFO

Any guy who uses a CNC machine to open a cardboard box is worth paying attention to in my view.

loyatemu · 09-07-2019 3:18pm

BrownFinger wrote: »

While I'm not a fan of Aldi tools at all they have started using a single battery system.
Also if your bit is coming loose you are not using the right tool for the job.
You need an SDS drill not one with a key/keyless chuck.

I've drilled the same walls with a wired B&D drill that has a key chuck and have had no problem with bits coming loose - it's just a bad chuck on the Aldi drill.

CoBo55 · 09-07-2019 7:34pm

loyatemu wrote: »

I've drilled the same walls with a wired B&D drill that has a key chuck and have had no problem with bits coming loose - it's just a bad chuck on the Aldi drill.

Life's too short to be using key chucks, they're dreadful.

RoscommonTom · 09-07-2019 8:28pm

if you get the wireless ones get a second battery,

cletus · 10-07-2019 9:54am

Tell me how wrote: »

Seems to be a lot of people with interest and opinions on tools.

I find this guy very interesting. His videos cover a wide range of topics and his style manner is refreshing in a world of 'influencers' who are paid to promote and only tell you how good something is.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLvgS71fU12Mbx-w18Chu_Sg9v6loipEFO

Any guy who uses a CNC machine to open a cardboard box is worth paying attention to in my view.

He's skookum all right, but I don't think he's ever reviewed Lidl or Aldi tools.

He did do a boltr on that little black drill IKEA sell, if I remember correctly, but only for tits and pickles, mind...

mloc123 · 10-07-2019 3:03pm

BrownFinger wrote: »

While I'm not a fan of Aldi tools at all they have started using a single battery system.
Also if your bit is coming loose you are not using the right tool for the job.
You need an SDS drill not one with a key/keyless chuck.

At the moment they are even selling the batteries on their own for 20e

RoscommonTom · 10-07-2019 10:28pm

mloc123 wrote: »

At the moment they are even selling the batteries on their own for 20e

where is that, in aldis or somewhere else,

IvoryTower · 11-07-2019 8:30am

The lidl battery pack is €30, battery and charger

Darando · 11-07-2019 11:10am

loyatemu wrote: »

my experience with Lidl/Aldi is that the batteries don't last and then you can't get replacements.

Last Aldi hammer drill I bought:
Isn't powerful enough to drill concrete (admittedly this is a 1970s house with very hard walls)
the bits work themselves loose from the chuck
battery doesn't last long and it only came with one.

probably worth spending a little more if you're going to be doing a lot of DIY.

https://www.kompernass.com/index.php?route=product/search

Seen the website on the instruction manual from a Lidl item I bought recently. Seems to have a fair few replacement parts for DIY items from the German discounters

my3cents · 11-07-2019 12:52pm

A note on 20V battery stuff. Don't be thinking its any better than 18V as they are identical.

18V batteries charge to 20V and if you put a test meter on them they read about 20V give or take. When you use the battery and start draining current from it the voltage drops to 18V. In the US DeWalt sell their 18V XR batteries as 20V XR batteries they are both the same its just a marketing ploy the same with Lidl Parkside 20V battery tool systems.

I've seen a few of the Lidl 20V tools now and for the money they are all surprisingly good even the angle grinder (short battery life) and the reciprocating saw.

iamtony · 16-07-2019 12:26am

I've a little workshop out the back and use my tools quite a bit and the new Aldi ferrex drill outperforms my DeWalt xr 18v. I was using a spade bit recently and the DeWalt wouldn't do it and kept stopping and getting very hot. The ferrex didn't struggle at all. True story.

I've the cordless Lidl SDS drill and it has gone through anything I've throw at it.

The only tool I'm not 100% satisfied with and wish I'd bought better is the Lidl bandsaw.

From DIY the Lidl and Aldi stuff is great value for money.

sligojoek · 18-07-2019 3:06am

iamtony wrote: »

I've a little workshop out the back and use my tools quite a bit and the new Aldi ferrex drill outperforms my DeWalt xr 18v. I was using a spade bit recently and the DeWalt wouldn't do it and kept stopping and getting very hot. The ferrex didn't struggle at all. True story.

I've the cordless Lidl SDS drill and it has gone through anything I've throw at it.

The only tool I'm not 100% satisfied with and wish I'd bought better is the Lidl bandsaw.

From DIY the Lidl and Aldi stuff is great value for money.

Is this the one?
Aldi drill

I see Aldi UK batteries are 20 volt. Would they be compatible with the ones sold here?

I bought a Tesco brand one reduced from e30 (far too much in the first place) to e9.99 5 years ago and it did fine for very light DIY dtuff. THe battery is now shagged and I'm on the lookout for something else for around the house. I've heaiver drills for other stuff.

iamtony · 18-07-2019 5:05pm

sligojoek wrote: »

Is this the one?
Aldi drill

I see Aldi UK batteries are 20 volt. Would they be compatible with the ones sold here?

I bought a Tesco brand one reduced from e30 (far too much in the first place) to e9.99 5 years ago and it did fine for very light DIY dtuff. THe battery is now shagged and I'm on the lookout for something else for around the house. I've heaiver drills for other stuff.

That's a bit different. Mine was 20v and has hammer action which I don't think that one does.
The pictures are a bit misleading on that. It shows the drill with a traditional battery in the first pic and then the rest it had a cylinder shape battery that integrates into the handle.
It's say it's fine if you don't need the hammer action for masonry stuff.

sligojoek · 19-07-2019 1:23am

iamtony wrote: »

That's a bit different. Mine was 20v and has hammer action which I don't think that one does.
The pictures are a bit misleading on that. It shows the drill with a traditional battery in the first pic and then the rest it had a cylinder shape battery that integrates into the handle.
It's say it's fine if you don't need the hammer action for masonry stuff.

Yes I see what you mean. The first pic has a rectangular battery and the last pic has a cylindrical one.

If it's the cylindrical type I'll leave it. The rectangular ones are universal with other tools. I was hoping to get a cordless angle grinder at some stage and alternate batteries,

The hammer action is not an issue. I've other drills for that I just want something for screws and an odd pilot hole. Capability with the the angle grinder would be a bonus too.

iamtony · 19-07-2019 10:19am

sligojoek wrote: »

Yes I see what you mean. The first pic has a rectangular battery and the last pic has a cylindrical one.

If it's the cylindrical type I'll leave it. The rectangular ones are universal with other tools. I was hoping to get a cordless angle grinder at some stage and alternate batteries,

The hammer action is not an issue. I've other drills for that I just want something for screws and an odd pilot hole. Capability with the the angle grinder would be a bonus too.

yeah I've the ferrex lawnmower, hedge trimmer, drill, impact gun, multitool and angle grinder all running off 2 of the bigger 20/40v batteries and it's all great. I see they have a cordless circular saw coming soon but it's the older workzone brand and I don't think it's the same battery which is a shame as I've been waiting for the ferrex one to pop up. I think they are shifting old stock or something.

sligojoek · 20-07-2019 1:40am

I had a look in Aldi today. They had a drill/battery but no charger for 49.99. I was i there last week and there were batteries and chargers piled sky high.

iamtony · 20-07-2019 7:08pm

sligojoek wrote: »

I had a look in Aldi today. They had a drill/battery but no charger for 49.99. I was i there last week and there were batteries and chargers piled sky high.

The one you linked to isn't out until tomorrow and has a charger included for €39.99.
The batteries and chargers you seen were the ones I got for the ferrex range they released. I'm waiting for them to release other tools that don't come with a battery and are cheaper to add on to my collection bit I've been left waiting unfortunately. Everytime I see DIY coming soon I get excited but im disappointed everytime so far.

sligojoek · 15-08-2019 1:05am

Sorry it took me so long to get back/ I decided against buying that drill as it was 16 v and the supplied charger looked completely different to the ones on sale otherwise.

Today I bought a battery and charger for 40e total and they are waiting for a drill and angle grider to slot into. Today they only had a circular saw and a cooling fan.

Maybe next week

iamtony · 15-08-2019 8:17am

Just a warning. I bought the ferrex nail gun last week and thought the battery would fit seemlessly into my growing ferrex collection. Turns out the Samsung battery they use now is completely different from the 20/40v ones that was released with the original ferrex stuff.

A drill for jobs around the house

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