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Ulster Team Talk Thread IV... Go On My Henderson...

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    #362
    Hands Like Flippers
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    Lucas44 wrote: »
    Good to see Nathan Doak in training with seniors for pre season, should take over from cooney in 2-3 years

    Clearly highly rated by UR.

    Have you seen him play?


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    #363
    Lucas44
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    Hands Like Flippers wrote: »
    Clearly highly rated by UR.

    Have you seen him play?

    Yeah he’s very good, equally as good at 10 as he is at 9. Played 2 years at Irish schools, one at 9 and one at 10.. will be guaranteed an academy deal straight out of school


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    #364
    bilston
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    He still has another year at school?

    That's impressive if he is training with the seniors. Similar to Sexton I suppose.

    One thing to do it as a winger, more impressive to be doing it as a half back.


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    #365
    Locke_Lamora
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    I think that might say more about our situation at 9, rather than how how good he is tbh.


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    #366
    Lucas44
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    Locke_Lamora wrote: »
    I think that might say more about our situation at 9, rather than how how good he is tbh.

    Considering bar this years u20 ulster have had Irish internationals at u18 and 19s would suggest future is bright and Stewart was Irish 20s the last two years. Doak ahead of Lewis Finlay by looks of it who by all accounts could be the starting Irish 20s 9 next year


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    #367
    Locke_Lamora
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    Lucas44 wrote: »
    Considering bar this years u20 ulster have had Irish internationals at u18 and 19s would suggest future is bright and Stewart was Irish 20s the last two years. Doak ahead of Lewis Finlay by looks of it who by all accounts could be the starting Irish 20s 9 next year
    Haven’t been impressed with Stewart, makes a few howlers and passing wasn’t too sharp or accurate. I liked what little I saw of Finlay, but a poster on uafc mentioned Rhys O’Donnell is ahead of him at Ballynahinch.

    I reckon 9 has just been identified as a problem position for the future, as we’ve our spent money on other positions, so we’re in need of homegrown talent. There aren’t too many spare 9’s knocking about the other provinces, so I think the coaches might be trying to get the next prospect up to speed as soon as possible.


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    #368
    Digifriendly
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    Nathan Doak is a pretty useful goal kicker. I've seen him play at Wallace HS at OT and he can control a game which IMHO Billy Burns can't.


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    #369
    Hands Like Flippers
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    Locke_Lamora wrote: »
    Haven’t been impressed with Stewart, makes a few howlers and passing wasn’t too sharp or accurate. I liked what little I saw of Finlay, but a poster on uafc mentioned Rhys O’Donnell is ahead of him at Ballynahinch.

    I reckon 9 has just been identified as a problem position for the future, as we’ve our spent money on other positions, so we’re in need of homegrown talent. There aren’t too many spare 9’s knocking about the other provinces, so I think the coaches might be trying to get the next prospect up to speed as soon as possible.

    What club does Stewart play for?


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    RobbieRuns
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    Locke_Lamora wrote: »
    Haven’t been impressed with Stewart, makes a few howlers and passing wasn’t too sharp or accurate. I liked what little I saw of Finlay, but a poster on uafc mentioned Rhys O’Donnell is ahead of him at Ballynahinch.

    I reckon 9 has just been identified as a problem position for the future, as we’ve our spent money on other positions, so we’re in need of homegrown talent. There aren’t too many spare 9’s knocking about the other provinces, so I think the coaches might be trying to get the next prospect up to speed as soon as possible.


    It will be interesting to see how Hinch go next year. Only Ulster team in 1A, hopefully they will get support of the Pro's and use the league to grow a few good youngsters. I assume that Ulster Rugby will want Hinch to stay in 1A


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    #371
    Hands Like Flippers
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    Digifriendly wrote: »
    Nathan Doak is a pretty useful goal kicker. I've seen him play at Wallace HS at OT and he can control a game which IMHO Billy Burns can't.

    IMHO ND is a better 10 than 9. See above plus no threat at 9. Good kicker and passer though.


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    #372
    Locke_Lamora
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    Hands Like Flippers wrote: »
    What club does Stewart play for?

    Banbridge I think


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    #373
    Lucas44
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    RobbieRuns wrote: »
    It will be interesting to see how Hinch go next year. Only Ulster team in 1A, hopefully they will get support of the Pro's and use the league to grow a few good youngsters. I assume that Ulster Rugby will want Hinch to stay in 1A

    With the Celtic cup running for the 8 weeks if they are dependant on ulster players It will be a short stay in 1A


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    #374
    RobbieRuns
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    Lucas44 wrote: »
    With the Celtic cup running for the first 8 weeks of the Ail season if they are dependant on ulster players It will be a short stay in 1A

    I am aware, but still, UR should do all that it can to help Hinch if possible. I still find it strange that 1A is so Dublin centric. No Connacht club and only one from Ulster. I'd like that to change


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    #375
    The Lost Sheep
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    Lucas44 wrote: »
    Good to see Nathan Doak in training with seniors for pre season, should take over from cooney in 2-3 years
    would hold on building him too much. Still in school. Never played open grade rugby yet.
    Digifriendly wrote: »
    Nathan Doak is a pretty useful goal kicker. I've seen him play at Wallace HS at OT and he can control a game which IMHO Billy Burns can't.
    that's both out on doak and very unfair on burns. Doak is good at school boy level but would wait til hes seen at AIL level and A level etc before talking him up that much...
    RobbieRuns wrote: »
    It will be interesting to see how Hinch go next year. Only Ulster team in 1A, hopefully they will get support of the Pro's and use the league to grow a few good youngsters. I assume that Ulster Rugby will want Hinch to stay in 1A
    only 6 pros a match squad and you can be better off with a regular squad than pros dropping in out each week.
    RobbieRuns wrote: »
    I am aware, but still, UR should do all that it can to help Hinch if possible. I still find it strange that 1A is so Dublin centric. No Connacht club and only one from Ulster. I'd like that to change
    not that strange. Was very Limerick centric for years as well. Connacht clubs cant keep players for work in the area... same with many Munster clubs. Look at many Dublin club team sheets. And Ulster clubs have always in general under performed in the AIL.


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    #376
    sydthebeat
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    https://www.ultimaterugby.com/news/ulster%27s-new-recruit-struck-with-long-term-injury/617603

    Ulster's new front row recruit Gareth Milasinovich has been dealt a cruel blow ahead of the new season after he suffered a knee injury in pre-season training that will delay his debut for the club.


    The prop, who arrived at Ulster from Premiership club Worcester Warriors, will now miss nine months after undergoing surgery to repair what has been confirmed by Ulster as an anterior cruciate ligament (ACL) injury.


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    #377
    thomond2006
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    Ulster have had absolutely no luck when signing backup props in the last few years. Awful news.


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    #378
    bilston
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    First and foremost a huge blow for the player himself. He was probably one of the less heralded new signings, but I'm sure was desperate to hit the ground running to make an impression. To miss 9 months is a massive blow. The only minor positive is that the season starts and ends late so he could be available come the last couple of months of the campaign.

    For Ulster it's a blow because it seems as though he could play both sides of the scrum, so while he was never likely to be first choice, his versatility would have been important.

    Let's hope that's an end to these nasty injuries.


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    #379
    bilston
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    Coetzee on the bench for SA against Australia this weekend.

    Great news for Marcel, maybe not so great for us, but I suppose it's an indication of how well he has played for us.


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    #380
    launish116
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    bilston wrote: »
    Coetzee on the bench for SA against Australia this weekend.

    Great news for Marcel, maybe not so great for us, but I suppose it's an indication of how well he has played for us.

    Well deserved! Sets the stall and gives Dan preseason to work/focus with our young back row options in his absence.


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    #381
    bilston
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    So it looks like our back rows to choose from at the start of the season will be...

    Matthew Rea
    Sean Reidy
    Clive Ross
    Nick Timoney
    Greg Jones
    David O'Connor
    Marcus Rea

    Obviously it would be nice to see Hall, McCann and Allison involved as well...maybe in pre season


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    #382
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    Great news on Coetzee. Having a back rower on the books who is part of a current Springbok setup is a a great bit of business after a rocky start. Hope he comes back fit and firing after a quarter final loss to Ireland :D


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    #383
    Paul Smeenus
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    bilston wrote: »
    So it looks like our back rows to choose from at the start of the season will be...

    Matthew Rea
    Sean Reidy
    Clive Ross
    Nick Timoney
    Greg Jones
    David O'Connor
    Marcus Rea

    Obviously it would be nice to see Hall, McCann and Allison involved as well...maybe in pre season

    McCann has another year at U20s - surely he won't make an appearance? Think our best row out of that lot is Mattie Rea, Reidy and Timoney. Would like to see Hall get another crack.


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    #384
    Lucas44
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    bilston wrote: »
    So it looks like our back rows to choose from at the start of the season will be...

    Matthew Rea
    Sean Reidy
    Clive Ross
    Nick Timoney
    Greg Jones
    David O'Connor
    Marcus Rea

    Obviously it would be nice to see Hall, McCann and Allison involved as well...maybe in pre season

    Don’t forget dunleavy aswell he will be ahead of McCann and Allison


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    #385
    Locke_Lamora
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    bilston wrote: »
    So it looks like our back rows to choose from at the start of the season will be...

    Matthew Rea
    Sean Reidy
    Clive Ross
    Nick Timoney
    Greg Jones
    David O'Connor
    Marcus Rea

    Obviously it would be nice to see Hall, McCann and Allison involved as well...maybe in pre season

    Not the most inspiring backrow, I'm really hoping Matt Rea and Timoney can find that extra gear this year - they both had a couple of games where they showed they were capable of it. Allison looked off the pace a bit at the JWC, his lack of game time this year really showed and didn't look back to full fitness. McCann is u19 so I wouldn't expect him to see the pitch tbh. Really pulling for Hall though, it would be heartbreaking if the lad can't get a proper crack at it because of injuries at that age.


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    #386
    bilston
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    Locke_Lamora wrote: »
    Not the most inspiring backrow, I'm really hoping Matt Rea and Timoney can find that extra gear this year - they both had a couple of games where they showed they were capable of it. Allison looked off the pace a bit at the JWC, his lack of game time this year really showed and didn't look back to full fitness. McCann is u19 so I wouldn't expect him to see the pitch tbh. Really pulling for Hall though, it would be heartbreaking if the lad can't get a proper crack at it because of injuries at that age.

    I wouldn't judge Allison on the JWC. He had a stop start tournament because of an HIA and had his injury problems prior to that. Probably not unlike Hume or Lowry the year before.


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    #387
    Hands Like Flippers
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    bilston wrote: »
    I wouldn't judge Allison on the JWC. He had a stop start tournament because of an HIA and had his injury problems prior to that. Probably not unlike Hume or Lowry the year before.

    Agreed. He is v quick for a BR.


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    #388
    Jump_In_Jack
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    Milasinovich sidelined for 9 months
    https://www.the42.ie/milasinovich-injury-ulster-4727940-Jul2019/?amp=1


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    #389
    Hands Like Flippers
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    U18 clubs/schools side play Americans at 1pm today.


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    Hands Like Flippers
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    Hands Like Flippers wrote: »
    U18 clubs/schools side play Americans at 1pm today.

    36 10


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    #391
    Paul Smeenus
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    Hands Like Flippers wrote: »
    36 10

    Any idea of team?


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