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  • #352
    Zero-Cool
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,909 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    Dunno what it is but Arkane games don't appeal to me in the slightest and this new vampire one is no exception.

    Some incredible looking Indies in that list and coming to gamepass day one as well, incredibly jealous of those.

    Forza looks fantastic!

    I thought on the whole, that was a brilliant showcase


  • #353
    J. Marston
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,224 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston


    I think I started Outer Worlds 3 times and could never stick with it. Just felt like a 6-7/10 game across the board.


  • #354
    Zero-Cool
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,909 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    Penn wrote: »
    The best news of the conference for me was Hades coming to console, as that means it's coming to PS5 as well.

    https://twitter.com/PlayStation/status/1404133252663816194?s=19


  • #355
    Zero-Cool
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,909 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    I NEED to know if Replaced will make it to PlayStation.


  • #356
    murpho999
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,544 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    Sawduck wrote: »
    They would have made a lot more money if they released it on all consoles, its a risky move

    How do you work this out?

    MS is one of the largest companies in the world that are awash with cash.

    The idea is to not sell games or consoles but to attract millions more subscribers to Gamepass which will be on multiple platforms not just console. Xbox are not in the console war games that Playstation fans seems obsessed with.

    Also,why can't you say Sony would have made more money by release their games on all platforms and how come it's not a risk for them?


  • #357
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    murpho999 wrote: »
    Also,why can't you say Sony would have made more money by release their games on all platforms and how come it's not a risk for them?

    Exactly.

    How come Sony took such a huge risk making The Last of Us a PlayStation exclusive? How come Nintendo take such massive risks?

    It seems to me that exclusive content is working pretty well for them.


  • #358
    super_furry
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,349 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    There's no good guy/bad guy here, both companies are at it. Sony specifically pays companies to keep games off Xbox and Gamepass.


  • #359
    EoinMcLovin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,123 ✭✭✭EoinMcLovin


    https://twitter.com/Wario64/status/1404152995655213059?s=19


  • #360
    CastorTroy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,310 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Anything expected at this Square conference? Don't think I'll watch


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  • #361
    murpho999
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,544 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    EoinMcLovin wrote: »
    Game pass is crazy value for the consumer but how the hell are Microsoft making money from it?

    They are making money from it.

    They are rumoured to have 23 million subscribers now.
    I know it varies by country and there's currency issues but lets say they get €12 a month this totals €276m a month or €3.3bn a year in revenues from Gamepass.

    Then through Gamepass they get more people playing games and buying in game purchases or buying the game outright.
    MS make a lot of money from it and so do the developers.

    It's growing too so numbers will only go up as MS push the service on multiple platforms.


  • #362
    Mr Crispy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,007 ✭✭✭Mr Crispy


    Redfall is interesting. I'm guessing it's going to be a 3-4 player co-op shooter, but we suddenly have a lot of competition in that niche.


  • #363
    super_furry
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,349 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    EoinMcLovin wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/Wario64/status/1404152995655213059?s=19

    That's just ridiculous when you actually sit and analyze it. For less the price of two new games too.


  • #364
    Gunmonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,067 ✭✭✭Gunmonkey


    Im watching out of morbid curiosity at how much Marvel Avengers we will be subject to. SE have to make their cash back somehow.


  • #365
    Icyseanfitz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,411 ✭✭✭Icyseanfitz


    Can't say redfall looks in the slightest bit interesting as we didn't see an ounce of what the actual game is, much like starfield


  • #366
    super_furry
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,349 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    CastorTroy wrote: »
    Anything expected at this Square conference? Don't think I'll watch

    Would love to think the rumoured FF1 to FFVI collection for the Switch is confirmed but not too hopeful.

    FFVII Remake for the Xbox would be great too, but it looks like Sony have paid to keep that locked up.


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  • #367
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Icyseanfitz wrote: »
    Can't say redfall looks in the slightest bit interesting as we didn't see an ounce of what the actual game is, much like starfield

    Yeah, I was hoping to see a demo of Starfield. That's why the release date seems optimistic to me, as they didn't have anything substantial to show.


  • #368
    TitianGerm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,377 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    super_furry wrote: »
    That's just ridiculous when you actually sit and analyze it. For less the price of two new games too.

    Without any offers and for console only it's €156 for 12 months Game Pass. All new Xbox games are included in Game Pass. Sony are charging €80 for a new game so like you said it's slightly less than two new games.

    If you use some of the upgrade options you can save a heap of money and stack three years. When I did it it cost me €120 for the three years.


  • #369
    recyclops
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,497 ✭✭✭recyclops


    That twelve minutes really looks brilliant.

    It's made to think the likes of hades is coming to PS and xbox near the same time but MS are giving it on game pass you'll assume Sony will go with psplus.

    I actually went and bought dlc for the surge 2 (waste of money) as I enjoyed the game itself on gamepass. Realistically without gamepass that developer would have got nothing from me.


  • #370
    super_furry
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,349 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    Guardians of the Galaxy looks like it could be really good. Hard to judge from that look but there's a lot of potential there.


  • #371
    EoinMcLovin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,123 ✭✭✭EoinMcLovin


    https://twitter.com/jasonschreier/status/1404158130204905474?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1404158130204905474%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=


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  • #372
    johnny_ultimate
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 29,749 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    Forza Horizon is Microsoft’s MVP first party game series now, but I think it’s a little sad how they see them as so disposable. That you can’t buy Horizon 3 (let alone the earlier ones) now is a pretty bleak situation for a successful game that’s only a half decade old. It makes me sad to think that when the (likely excellent) FH5 hits we’re probably looking at FH4 being ‘sunsetted’ shortly afterwards. And it highlights the excellent GamePass’ main flaw - that the games are gone if MS decrees it.

    I look forward to booting up FH5, which will inevitably be beautiful and a whole bunch of fun. I just wish MS would do a bit job maintaining and preserving the games, even in an offline fashion.


  • #373
    TitianGerm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,377 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    johnny_ultimate wrote: »
    Forza Horizon is Microsoft’s MVP first party game series now, but I think it’s a little sad how they see them as so disposable. That you can’t buy Horizon 3 (let alone the earlier ones) now is a pretty bleak situation for a successful game that’s only a half decade old. It makes me sad to think that when the (likely excellent) FH5 hits we’re probably looking at FH4 being ‘sunsetted’ shortly afterwards. And it highlights the excellent GamePass’ main flaw - that the games are gone if MS decrees it.

    I look forward to booting up FH5, which will inevitably be beautiful and a whole bunch of fun. I just wish MS would do a bit job maintaining and preserving the games, even in an offline fashion.

    They take the other ones off the store because of the license agreements with the manufacturers.


  • #374
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    GamePass is perfect for people like me. I love playing games, but I'm not a collector or anything. Also I like playing multiplayer with my friend, and that could be hit or miss on PlayStation, we bought a few duds. On GamePass, if a game doesn't suit us, there are tonnes more. We take no risk in trying games out.


  • #375
    ThunbergsAreGo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,399 ✭✭✭✭ThunbergsAreGo


    earthwormjack wrote: »
    I don't they are at the minute but they don't care. They're just building subscribers. I got 3 years for just over 90 quid. Obscene value.

    How did you get that?


  • #376
    ThunbergsAreGo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,399 ✭✭✭✭ThunbergsAreGo


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    GamePass is perfect for people like me. I love playing games, but I'm not a collector or anything. Also I like playing multiplayer with my friend, and that could be hit or miss on PlayStation, we bought a few duds. On GamePass, if a game doesn't suit us, there are tonnes more. We take no risk in trying games out.

    Yeah debating making the plunge


  • #377
    Zero-Cool
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,909 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    I can't wait too play Life is Strange Remastered, been meaning to replay it for ages but wish there was at least an upgrade option.

    Life is Strange True Colours looks right up my alley, day one for me.


  • #378
    ShaneU
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,941 ✭✭✭✭ShaneU


    Nothing today excited me but that's probably just me I'm well jaded on games at this point. Nintendo might have something


  • #379
    Mr Crispy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,007 ✭✭✭Mr Crispy


    Icyseanfitz wrote: »
    Can't say redfall looks in the slightest bit interesting as we didn't see an ounce of what the actual game is, much like starfield

    If that was in response to me, I meant interesting in that we (maybe) have yet another 4 player co-op shooter on the way. It's quickly becoming an over-saturated genre.


  • #380
    ERG89
    Registered Users Posts: 11,611 ✭✭✭✭ERG89


    The only thing I've seen so far is that Final Fantasy game that looks laughably out of date. Like the kind of game that companies stopped making over a decade ago as it just made them look bad.


  • #381
    CatInABox
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,399 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatInABox


    ThunbergsAreGo wrote: »
    How did you get that?

    The basic premise is to buy three years of Xbox Gold, load that onto your account, and then upgrade to Game Pass Ultimate for a euro.

    See a more detailed post on it here.


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  • #382
    CastorTroy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,310 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Didn't someone else use Holding Out For A Hero this week?
    Or maybe that was for a film or tv show.


  • #383
    J. Marston
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,224 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston


    CastorTroy wrote: »
    Didn't someone else use Holding Out For A Hero this week?
    Or maybe that was for a film or tv show.

    Netflix He-Man.


  • #384
    CatInABox
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,399 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatInABox


    murpho999 wrote: »
    They are making money from it.

    They are rumoured have 23 million subsctibers now.

    I know it varies by country and there's currency issues but lets say they get €12 a month this totals €276m a month or €3.3bn a year in revenues from Gamepass.

    Then through Gamepass they get more people playing games and buying in game purchases or buying the game outright.

    MS make a lot of money from it and so do the developers.

    It's growing too so numbers will only go up as MS push the service on multiple platforms.

    Just for clarity, Game Pass does makes a fair bit of revenue, but not yet a profit. That's from their latest earnings report.

    In terms of what it means to MS though, and other public companies on the stock market, recurring revenues (i.e. subscribers/subscription services) are "worth more" than one off products. In other words, $100 million in Game Pass revenues has more impact on the stock price than €100 million from selling games. That's what MS is aiming for when it comes to growing Game Pass.

    The stock market is weird.


  • #385
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Really enjoyed the Xbox show and a lot to look forward to on Gamepass over the next few months. Thought the game at the end of the show was disappointing though. Didn't like the look of it at all.


  • #386
    CatInABox
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,399 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatInABox


    Deleted User wrote: »
    MS also have Xcloud and looking towards streaming to other devices, thats a lot of potential players who might not want to drop money on a console but would subscribe to a streaming service.

    I'm not convicted it's there yet though from the few hours I've played of it.

    Yeah, it's grand for mobile, in particular on Android, but moving to bigger screens really shows the One S behind the screens.

    Good news though, is that the Series X upgrade to the server blades is starting to roll out, should go live in the US soon, and they're pretty good at rolling stuff like that worldwide these days. That's going to make a massive difference in terms of loading times, Res, and framerate.


  • #387
    earthwormjack
    Registered Users Posts: 981 ✭✭✭earthwormjack


    ThunbergsAreGo wrote: »
    How did you get that?


    I followed the guide that CatInABox posted above and got my codes on sale at eneba.com. They aren't on sale at the minute though.


  • #388
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    CatInABox wrote: »
    Just for clarity, Game Pass does makes a fair bit of revenue, but not yet a profit. That's from their latest earnings report.

    In terms of what it means to MS though, and other public companies on the stock market, recurring revenues (i.e. subscribers/subscription services) are "worth more" than one off products. In other words, $100 million in Game Pass revenues has more impact on the stock price than €100 million from selling games. That's what MS is aiming for when it comes to growing Game Pass.

    The stock market is weird.

    I suppose GamePass is seen more as a captive audience of sorts. A lot can be done with that. It's a customer base that can be managed and maximised for profit, if done correctly.

    It's like Netflix Vs a maker of DVDs. I'd rather have Netflix.


  • #389
    Robert ninja
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,878 ✭✭✭Robert ninja


    skerry wrote: »
    Redfall looks awesome
    When does it release in cinemas? :pac:


  • #390
    Zero-Cool
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,909 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    The GoG game is a strange one. Looks like it would fit right in as an expansion for the avengers game, looks generic as shyte.

    Speaking of shyte, the black panther expansion that Square enix are leaning on looks like it will add nothing to elevate the game. It's weird looking at the road map for that thinking 'meh', such a disappointing game.


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  • #391
    BloodBath
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,299 ✭✭✭✭BloodBath


    Zero-Cool wrote: »
    The GoG game is a strange one. Looks like it would fit right in as an expansion for the avengers game, looks generic as shyte.

    Speaking of shyte, the black panther expansion that Square enix are leaning on looks like it will add nothing to elevate the game. It's weird looking at the road map for that thinking 'meh', such a disappointing game.

    The trailer was great but the gameplay looks meh.

    They missed a trick by not making the combat ff7-r like with character swapping.


  • #392
    EoinMcLovin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,123 ✭✭✭EoinMcLovin


    BloodBath wrote: »
    The trailer was great but the gameplay looks meh.

    They missed a trick by not making the combat ff7-r like with character swapping.

    Yeah that would have made way more sense, you'd still have it as a single-player game but with more variety. The way you select attacks for the other characters looked weird too


  • #393
    ERG89
    Registered Users Posts: 11,611 ✭✭✭✭ERG89


    https://twitter.com/silenttakedown/status/1404171474680881155?s=19


    :pac:


  • #394
    murpho999
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,544 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    CatInABox wrote: »
    Just for clarity, Game Pass does makes a fair bit of revenue, but not yet a profit. That's from their latest earnings report.

    In terms of what it means to MS though, and other public companies on the stock market, recurring revenues (i.e. subscribers/subscription services) are "worth more" than one off products. In other words, $100 million in Game Pass revenues has more impact on the stock price than €100 million from selling games. That's what MS is aiming for when it comes to growing Game Pass.

    The stock market is weird.

    I can't find any financial report where MS show their revenues and profits from GamePass but the gaming division has show growth as shown below.
    Xbox content and services revenue increased 34% (up 32% in constant currency)
    Link

    So if you can send me a link I'd appreciate it.


  • #395
    Mr Crispy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,007 ✭✭✭Mr Crispy


    PC Gaming show up now, and then the Future Games Show at midnight. Gonna need a lie on tomorrow...


  • #396
    Zero-Cool
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,909 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    He's back!

    https://twitter.com/KazHiraiCEO/status/1404187903476092948?s=19


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  • #397
    Mr Crispy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,007 ✭✭✭Mr Crispy


    PC Gaming show off to a great start with no sound.

    Edit: Actually now that the sound is back, I wish it wasn't. Cringe overload.


  • #398
    Icyseanfitz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,411 ✭✭✭Icyseanfitz


    Mr Crispy wrote: »
    If that was in response to me, I meant interesting in that we (maybe) have yet another 4 player co-op shooter on the way. It's quickly becoming an over-saturated genre.

    not at all, sorry if it came across like that, just my own view on cgi announcement trailers


  • #399
    B.A._Baracus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,206 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    You wouldn't know it to look at her, but host mica Burton is the daughter of 'geordie leforge' himself star trek actor levar Burton.


  • #400
    Mr Crispy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,007 ✭✭✭Mr Crispy


    B.A._Baracus wrote: »
    You wouldn't know it to look at her, but host mica Burton is the daughter of 'geordie leforge' himself star trek actor levar Burton.

    Explains how they had access to a transporter.


  • #401
    Arcadeheroes
    Registered Users Posts: 182 ✭✭Arcadeheroes


    The Final Fantasy Origin Trial demo is on playstation 5 now to download if anyone is interested.


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